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    Chilcotin or Reign x frame?

    I have a 2012 reign x built up with pushed fox rc4 coil shock, float 36 160mm fork and a solid list of other tuff parts. I love my reign x and can't really fault it for anything. I use it for everything from light DH, the Oregon enduro series, Am, and even some xc rides. I recently passed my electricians journeyman exam and to celebrate we talked about getting a new bike. The chili has always intrigued me and looks similar to my reign x. I really don't need a new frame but I have new bike upgraditis bad.
    Would a chili frame be equal or better than the Reign X? I think I could even use my pushed coil shock on it since it's the same size and the chili has almost an identical suspension ratio. Would like to hear some opinions and if you have time on both bikes, even better.

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    First, if you are anticipating using your PUSH'd coil shock, I'd call up PUSH and ask about that - they valve it for more than leverage ratio.

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    Shock performance really depends on the suspension curve more than the suspension ratio, so I would talk to PUSH as CZ said.

    BTW, I have a 2010 Reign (not the x) that I'm selling because I never ride it because of my Chili. My experience is that the Chili out-climbs the Reign (the Reign spins out where the Chili motors up); and the Reign is WAY more twitchy on the DH.
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    the reign x is still a great bike.

    the question is can you afford to upgrade? if so then the question that follows that is do you need to upgrade from a reign? if the answer is yes again, then put your Chili order in.

    to help you answer the second question, are you limited by how fast you feel comfortable going on the reign or how big the hits are that your bike can take, if so then the chili would be worthwhile as its extremely well made and burlier than you might think, its the first thing that i noticed when i saw it in the flesh for the first time.

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    Yes I can afford a new frame but can't say I really need it. The reign x isn't really holding me back any but I'm a sucker for new bikes and upgrading. I'll for sure talk to push and see what they say about the coil but if I order a chili then I'd probably get the DB air to try out first. That Rc4 is heavy! I love the look of the chili. Giant reign x.... not so much, mostly due to the paint schemes they use.

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    I loved my Reign X that i bought in 2007 when i moved back to the USA after living overseas for 2 yrs. Around that time i got seriously into Freeriding and that same yr got my VTach. The Reign X pedalled great and did everything i wanted until i started riding harder. I blew the seat tube bearings out a couple times, bent the seat stay (warranty) and destroyed a couple suspension rockers (warranty x2). I moved to a Specialized SX Trail...loved that bike also. Broke a chain stay on that. Having fallen in love with the VT, it was an economic decision at that point to get a Delerium and after that it was a no brainer to get a Chilly.

    The final straw on the Reign was blowing the bearings out and thus ending a road trip in Jackson Hole (riding Jimmy's Mom). I vowed then I would only ever go on a road trip with a bike that can take my abuse. Shortly after that, I just took my VTach with me on a trip into BC. Pedalled it on a 30+ mile XC loop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by finch6013 View Post
    I'm a sucker for new bikes and upgrading.
    the Chili might be the last bike you buy for a while

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    The Reign is a nice bike but I think you will find the Chilcotin will blow it out of the water. The Chili is simply the best AM bike I have ever ridden, period. Take the plunge; I don't think you'll be disappointed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Parabellum View Post
    The Reign is a nice bike but I think you will find the Chilcotin will blow it out of the water. The Chili is simply the best AM bike I have ever ridden, period. Take the plunge; I don't think you'll be disappointed.
    @ finch6013

    Its this kind of talk that made me buy one! I had never ridden it before i pulled the trigger, the descision was largely based on how well respected the brand was by its customers.

    I live in the heart of Scottish MTB country, and its been round 3 local bike stores today, these guys have seen everything trust me, and its been really admired by all, so there you go!

    I did alot of comparisons before i bought the chili, heres a quote from a post i made a while back:


    The End.

    I bought my Knolly Chilcotin frame today, it arrives Friday. It will be a Medium in Raw. Cant wait!

    To close this post, in the end i rated them like this:


    Knolly Chilcotin (beautiful solid reliable dialled suspension with just the right sizing/geometry for both myself and the bigger stuff in the UK. With 170mm Marzocchi's it will be plenty tough enough for trips to Fort William).
    Specialised Enduro (great bike nothing to fault, just didnt want the red paint job on the model i liked - Enduro comp)..was slightly put off by specialised own parts on there.
    Lapierre Spicy 516 (i still want one of these bikes but i just wouldnt buy one with CTD suspension and 34 forks...i like way they built it up last year...although this years geometry tweaks make it an even better bike...if only they sold the frame on its own. This is the bike to watch out for in the future).
    Banshee Rune v2 (hasnt been around long enough to know enough about ride/durability)
    Yeti SB-66 (not big mountain enough, 150 forks too short, the switch suspension system is clever though)
    IBIS Mojo HD (looks are not everything but this bike is just plain ugly, i just cant see how it would descent any better than any of the above either)
    Commencal Meta SX (toptube too short in M, frame very compact, which is a shame as it would have ended up higher in the list)
    SC Nomad Carbon (dont like VPP suspension, had an Intense Tracer in the past, we didnt get on)


    Its taken me 3 months to put this list in this order!

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    Thanks for all the good words on the chilcotin. I too have had problems blowing out pivot bearings, upper DU bushings, and upper shock bolts on a regular basis for the year that I have had the RX frame. On top of that I know its only a matter of time before the infamous lower link snaps on me at the wrong time or during an enduro race. Where is the best place to order a frame?

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    im kind of in the same position as you, i want a new bike and can comfortably afford one, but wrestle with my conscience about spending such amounts of money when i already have a perfectly good bike.
    at the end of the day if we all thought like this, then no one would buy anything, if it's your hobby and that's what you like, and you can afford it then go for it, knolly are a fantastic company with fantastic bikes and awesome support, you wont be dissapointed if you buy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frenchcr View Post
    the Chili might be the last bike you buy for a while
    +1. Can't agree more. In case of me it looks like I stop considering other bike in it's class
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    Quote Originally Posted by finch6013 View Post
    Thanks for all the good words on the chilcotin. I too have had problems blowing out pivot bearings, upper DU bushings, and upper shock bolts on a regular basis for the year that I have had the RX frame. On top of that I know its only a matter of time before the infamous lower link snaps on me at the wrong time or during an enduro race. Where is the best place to order a frame?
    That lower link scared me away from the Reign X. Especially since they were breaking while climbing.

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    Pulled the trigger on a day glow yellow with DB air from dropnzone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by finch6013 View Post
    Pulled the trigger on a day glow yellow with DB air from dropnzone.
    well done, i wish i had taken my decision sooner, i lost 3.5 months of my life to it lol. i picked the chili first out of the bikes
    above, then went round the houses doing my research just to end up back where i started, with the Chili. In hindsight it was the right place to start and
    end, so congrats you! the yellow is awesome, good colours to mix with it are white purple and black.

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    I cant wait!!!!! I'm really hoping the sizing is correct for me. Based on what I have read and the sales guy's recommendation at Drop N Zone I need a large. I've never owned a large frame before so I'm a little concerned. I'm 6' even 32'' inseam and prefer my bikes to fit tight and playful. Comparing numbers to my reign x (that fits like a glove) the large should be a similar fit according to what I was told.

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    Quote Originally Posted by finch6013 View Post
    I cant wait!!!!! I'm really hoping the sizing is correct for me. Based on what I have read and the sales guy's recommendation at Drop N Zone I need a large. I've never owned a large frame before so I'm a little concerned. I'm 6' even 32'' inseam and prefer my bikes to fit tight and playful. Comparing numbers to my reign x (that fits like a glove) the large should be a similar fit according to what I was told.
    I'm 5'10 with 30 inseam and the M fits me perfect. I think you'd be better with a size up from my bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by finch6013 View Post
    I cant wait!!!!! I'm really hoping the sizing is correct for me. Based on what I have read and the sales guy's recommendation at Drop N Zone I need a large. I've never owned a large frame before so I'm a little concerned. I'm 6' even 32'' inseam and prefer my bikes to fit tight and playful. Comparing numbers to my reign x (that fits like a glove) the large should be a similar fit according to what I was told.
    That guy got it right. I tried the M (6', 34" inseam) and it never fit right, much happier on the L. Get a short stem and some wide bars and you'll be set.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calhoun View Post
    That guy got it right. I tried the M (6', 34" inseam) and it never fit right, much happier on the L. Get a short stem and some wide bars and you'll be set.
    Planning to use a 50mm stem and some 780 bars. Sounds like I've made the right choice based on the posts I've been able to find on sizing.

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    yeah knollies tend to be a bit on the smallside compared to other frames. im 510 and ride a medium so large should be fine for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by finch6013 View Post
    Planning to use a 50mm stem and some 780 bars. Sounds like I've made the right choice based on the posts I've been able to find on sizing.
    That's a perfect setup. Congrats on the best choice you could have made!

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