Im thinking of changing up from the original Endo to the new model, primarily to shave a few pounds off the weight so Id be very happy if people start posting the frames and complete bike weights here.
I will need an XL frame so even better if someone has one of those monsters built up!
FYI my lbs weighed a raw medium with CTD shock and that was 6.54 lbs...
I am super stoked, I have been waiting for this frame for 2 years. Frame looks great - it's a Knolly. I can sense it - this baby is going to shred trails.
More to come...
Planned Build
Medium Frame
Fox Float 36 (lowered) 1.125 steertube
CC110 zerostack headset
I9 AM wheels
2.4 Fat Alberts with tubes
XTR trail brakes
MRP chain guide
1x10 drivetrain - SRAM XO X9
Chromag bars
Chromag stem
Chromag saddle
Saint Cranks
Reverb Dropper
Medium raw Endo with fox ctd
Fox 32 140mm fork
Sixc bars
Thomson 90 mm stem 10 degree rise cause its a xc rig
Magura MT8 brakes
Thomson post, selle italia seat, chromag clamp
Race face next carbon cranks with 34 tooth ring
crank bros candy 11 pedals
MRP g2 sl mini
sram xx cassette 11-36
sram xo shifter and short cage rear derailleur
Enve xc rims on king hubs
maxxis aspen tires ( probably get changed out soon)
weight 24 pounds 3 ounces
I've been waiting for this frame for two years, since it was the sl and in the mean time i got a SC blur trc as a place holder. well, after one quick ride, it was well worth the wait and in not going to regret selling the trc.
Also, I have a chilly and and the endo is not a smaller version of the chilly. It is its own beast. it's a purpose built trail slayer. the endo has much more platform built in and its much more lively and playful. After just one ride on the endo, it makes the Chilly feel like a "big" bike.
I've been waiting for this frame for two years, since it was the sl and in the mean time i got a SC blur trc as a place holder. well, after one quick ride, it was well worth the wait and in not going to regret selling the trc.
Also, I have a chilly and and the endo is not a smaller version of the chilly. It is its own beast. it's a purpose built trail slayer. the endo has much more platform built in and its much more lively and playful. After just one ride on the endo, it makes the Chilly feel like a "big" bike.
Cheers
Please keep us posted. I am thinking of a similar set up but don't want to have any overlap with my Chili. Looking for a bike that is light enough to ride all day, but still have a lot of fun on. Interested to hear how it compares to the TRC after you have some time on the new bike.
Got mine today. Thanks to Dusty for making it happen so smoothly.
I should have it built up in a week or two as I'm waiting on a couple parts. Killer looking frame. I'm looking forward to trying something different - it should be a ripper
Medium raw Endo with fox ctd
Fox 32 140mm fork
Sixc bars
Thomson 90 mm stem 10 degree rise cause its a xc rig
Magura MT8 brakes
Thomson post, selle italia seat, chromag clamp
Race face next carbon cranks with 34 tooth ring
crank bros candy 11 pedals
MRP g2 sl mini
sram xx cassette 11-36
sram xo shifter and short cage rear derailleur
Enve xc rims on king hubs
maxxis aspen tires ( probably get changed out soon)
weight 24 pounds 3 ounces
I've been waiting for this frame for two years, since it was the sl and in the mean time i got a SC blur trc as a place holder. well, after one quick ride, it was well worth the wait and in not going to regret selling the trc.
Also, I have a chilly and and the endo is not a smaller version of the chilly. It is its own beast. it's a purpose built trail slayer. the endo has much more platform built in and its much more lively and playful. After just one ride on the endo, it makes the Chilly feel like a "big" bike.
Cheers
I had a carbon blur with 100mm fork and 2.1 Aspens on it. I switched out the Aspens to 2.2 trail kings and took the spacer out the fork and set it at 120mm which totalły transformed it from an XC racer to a capable trail bike. My point is I think with a 34 fork and chunky tires the endo will be closer to the Chilcotin than you describe
Even with the more efficient pedaling platform. However, if I had a Chilcotin I would build an endo up light to ensure distinct separation.
Faster than a speeding Bullit!
Sorry to post this cheesy picture of my build again, but it still best fits the way I feel about the new Endorphin. Today I was able to catch up to a SC Bullit that had a head start on the downhill. Now I know that there are tons of variables when it comes to which bike is faster, rider and trail type for example. The Bullit rider was no slouch, and Leverich Canyon in Bozeman was built for downhill trail riding (berms and jumps but no stunts). There is no doubt that the Bullit would dominate on chunky trails, but the precise handling and quick acceleration of the Endo seemed to give it the edge today. When you factor in the fact that the Endorphin is a great climber, it takes the gold. My intent is not to trash another bike, but to relate my experience with an unlikely comparison. Maybe in the end it is my personal myth that big bikes are faster on the down that has lead to this love post for the Endorphin.
In any case, for those about to build... I salute you.
Nice build! What's the thinking behind running a chain guide on an XC rig?
better safe than sorry. with the low bb and and running a 140 fork and flush headset, i didnt want to take any chances. Its an xc bike but it's still gonna see plenty of chunk
Another awesome build. I am going crazy at the moment. I have every component, except the lower headset assembly, which is a critical piece. A little mix up in communication. And, none of the local bike shops carry a 44mm zerostack so I waiting for the one that I ordered to be delivered.
How's the Endorphin with a 36 at 160mm? I am planning to drop my 36 to 150mm to keep it quick and low.
How's the Endorphin with a 36 at 160mm? I am planning to drop my 36 to 150mm to keep it quick and low.
I can't provide any real world feedback yet. The shakedown ride is hopefully Tuesday. But, I can give you some numbers to geek out on. With the 36 @ 160 and ZS the HA reads 65.3* using a magnetic angle finder. I think the finder is off a .5* as it read my Spot at 66.5* which I'm very sure was 67*. I'll put my money on the Endo being closer 66* as it sits. The BB is bang on 13.5", WB is 45" even.
I have a 10mm spacer coming for the 36 that I may try out if I find 160 to be too slow or floppy.
I can't provide any real world feedback yet. The shakedown ride is hopefully Tuesday. But, I can give you some numbers to geek out on. With the 36 @ 160 and ZS the HA reads 65.3* using a magnetic angle finder. I think the finder is off a .5* as it read my Spot at 66.5* which I'm very sure was 67*. I'll put my money on the Endo being closer 66* as it sits. The BB is bang on 13.5", WB is 45" even.
I have a 10mm spacer coming for the 36 that I may try out if I find 160 to be too slow or floppy.
Thanks Even though I didn't have the lower headset assembly. I did attempt to measure the headangle (also with a magnetic angle finder) and I am getting numbers similar to you (plus or minus a larger deviation owing to a bit of steertube flop). I hoping to get the headangle to 66.5 with 36 at 150mm. I like this geometry on my Delirium for pedaling.
I am also running a zero stack. From my reading the Fox 34 are about 7mm shorter (A2C) than Fox 36. Knolly build kit is with a Fox 34 at 150mm (A2C =528 plus zero stack of 4mm, it is around 532 A2C). Endorphin is 67 at 533mm A2C. So for a headangle of 66.5 - I need A2C of ~543. Fox Float 160mm has A2C of 545. With a zero stack (+4mm), and -10mm reduction of travel (539 A2C), I should be in the preferred ballpark. Granted these are just numbers - real world testing is required.
Note I found the Podium to be a tad slacker than suggested. I wonder if this is similar to the Endorphin. Slacker is my preferred side of the random of error.
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