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    2012 Knolly Endorphin: Pictures, Builds, Information

    Looks like the new Endorphins are starting to ship. Lets see some pics, here some reports, and share information.

    TG

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    Im thinking of changing up from the original Endo to the new model, primarily to shave a few pounds off the weight so Id be very happy if people start posting the frames and complete bike weights here.

    I will need an XL frame so even better if someone has one of those monsters built up!

    FYI my lbs weighed a raw medium with CTD shock and that was 6.54 lbs...

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    have any of the magazines got one on test? a review would be good...whilst waiting to get a 650b version....

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    Knolly Endorphin from Israel

    medium frame w/ FOX float CTD
    Rockshox Revelation 2013 RCT3 solo air 15mm tapered
    WTB frequency i23 / TBC Revolution hubs / Sapim spokes
    Onza IBEX FR 2.25 kevlar tires, running tubeless
    Rockshox Reverb
    Race Face Turbine crankset + 32T chainring
    Blackspire DER Guide chainguide
    Race Face Atlast handlebar cut to 760mm
    Race Face ride 60mm stem
    ODI grips
    XO shifter + der
    XT cassette + chain
    XO calipers / XX brake levers, 180mm front, 160mm rear
    TBC diamond saddle
    XT trail pedals
    Cane Creek headset

    13.1 kg

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsphere View Post
    Knolly Endorphin from Israel


    Race Face Atlast handlebar cut to 750mm

    13.1 kg
    Beautiful bike! Two questions:

    1) What was the reason you cut down the handlebars?
    2) Why did you choose Cromo bars over Carbon bars?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TSC View Post
    Beautiful bike! Two questions:

    1) What was the reason you cut down the handlebars?
    2) Why did you choose Cromo bars over Carbon bars?
    it's actually cut to 760mm, that was a mistake.

    I wanted a 750-760mm handlebar. 785mm is too wide for a trail bike for my taste.

    I could only get the 725mm SixC handlebar, so I preferred to put an Atlas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsphere View Post
    it's actually cut to 760mm, that was a mistake.

    I wanted a 750-760mm handlebar. 785mm is too wide for a trail bike for my taste.

    I could only get the 725mm SixC handlebar, so I preferred to put an Atlas.
    Thanks for the info. Please let us know what you think of your new bike.

    Enjoy!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsphere View Post
    it's actually cut to 760mm, that was a mistake.

    I wanted a 750-760mm handlebar. 785mm is too wide for a trail bike for my taste.

    I could only get the 725mm SixC handlebar, so I preferred to put an Atlas.
    Race Face 2012

    They just came out with 785s
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    I am super stoked, I have been waiting for this frame for 2 years. Frame looks great - it's a Knolly. I can sense it - this baby is going to shred trails.


    More to come...

    Planned Build
    Medium Frame
    Fox Float 36 (lowered) 1.125 steertube
    CC110 zerostack headset
    I9 AM wheels
    2.4 Fat Alberts with tubes
    XTR trail brakes
    MRP chain guide
    1x10 drivetrain - SRAM XO X9
    Chromag bars
    Chromag stem
    Chromag saddle
    Saint Cranks
    Reverb Dropper
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    dude that looks great. What size is it?

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    Looks great Jamie. Can't wait to hear what you think.
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    heres mine!

    The Build:

    Medium raw Endo with fox ctd
    Fox 32 140mm fork
    Sixc bars
    Thomson 90 mm stem 10 degree rise cause its a xc rig
    Magura MT8 brakes
    Thomson post, selle italia seat, chromag clamp
    Race face next carbon cranks with 34 tooth ring
    crank bros candy 11 pedals
    MRP g2 sl mini
    sram xx cassette 11-36
    sram xo shifter and short cage rear derailleur
    Enve xc rims on king hubs
    maxxis aspen tires ( probably get changed out soon)

    weight 24 pounds 3 ounces

    I've been waiting for this frame for two years, since it was the sl and in the mean time i got a SC blur trc as a place holder. well, after one quick ride, it was well worth the wait and in not going to regret selling the trc.

    Also, I have a chilly and and the endo is not a smaller version of the chilly. It is its own beast. it's a purpose built trail slayer. the endo has much more platform built in and its much more lively and playful. After just one ride on the endo, it makes the Chilly feel like a "big" bike.

    Cheers
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    Nice build! What's the thinking behind running a chain guide on an XC rig?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfarrell View Post
    heres mine!

    I've been waiting for this frame for two years, since it was the sl and in the mean time i got a SC blur trc as a place holder. well, after one quick ride, it was well worth the wait and in not going to regret selling the trc.

    Also, I have a chilly and and the endo is not a smaller version of the chilly. It is its own beast. it's a purpose built trail slayer. the endo has much more platform built in and its much more lively and playful. After just one ride on the endo, it makes the Chilly feel like a "big" bike.

    Cheers
    Please keep us posted. I am thinking of a similar set up but don't want to have any overlap with my Chili. Looking for a bike that is light enough to ride all day, but still have a lot of fun on. Interested to hear how it compares to the TRC after you have some time on the new bike.

    Looks great!

    TG

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    Got mine today. Thanks to Dusty for making it happen so smoothly.

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    I should have it built up in a week or two as I'm waiting on a couple parts. Killer looking frame. I'm looking forward to trying something different - it should be a ripper

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    Nice looking build!!!

    Great to hear to about its performance. I also owned a Blur TRC and recently sold it.

    My needed parts to finish the build didn't arrive today and I head out of town for work, so my first ride will be next weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfarrell View Post
    heres mine!

    The Build:

    Medium raw Endo with fox ctd
    Fox 32 140mm fork
    Sixc bars
    Thomson 90 mm stem 10 degree rise cause its a xc rig
    Magura MT8 brakes
    Thomson post, selle italia seat, chromag clamp
    Race face next carbon cranks with 34 tooth ring
    crank bros candy 11 pedals
    MRP g2 sl mini
    sram xx cassette 11-36
    sram xo shifter and short cage rear derailleur
    Enve xc rims on king hubs
    maxxis aspen tires ( probably get changed out soon)

    weight 24 pounds 3 ounces

    I've been waiting for this frame for two years, since it was the sl and in the mean time i got a SC blur trc as a place holder. well, after one quick ride, it was well worth the wait and in not going to regret selling the trc.

    Also, I have a chilly and and the endo is not a smaller version of the chilly. It is its own beast. it's a purpose built trail slayer. the endo has much more platform built in and its much more lively and playful. After just one ride on the endo, it makes the Chilly feel like a "big" bike.

    Cheers
    I had a carbon blur with 100mm fork and 2.1 Aspens on it. I switched out the Aspens to 2.2 trail kings and took the spacer out the fork and set it at 120mm which totalły transformed it from an XC racer to a capable trail bike. My point is I think with a 34 fork and chunky tires the endo will be closer to the Chilcotin than you describe
    Even with the more efficient pedaling platform. However, if I had a Chilcotin I would build an endo up light to ensure distinct separation.

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    Will the Endorphin accept the CCDB Air shock?

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    Faster than a speeding Bullit!
    Sorry to post this cheesy picture of my build again, but it still best fits the way I feel about the new Endorphin. Today I was able to catch up to a SC Bullit that had a head start on the downhill. Now I know that there are tons of variables when it comes to which bike is faster, rider and trail type for example. The Bullit rider was no slouch, and Leverich Canyon in Bozeman was built for downhill trail riding (berms and jumps but no stunts). There is no doubt that the Bullit would dominate on chunky trails, but the precise handling and quick acceleration of the Endo seemed to give it the edge today. When you factor in the fact that the Endorphin is a great climber, it takes the gold. My intent is not to trash another bike, but to relate my experience with an unlikely comparison. Maybe in the end it is my personal myth that big bikes are faster on the down that has lead to this love post for the Endorphin.

    In any case, for those about to build... I salute you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teknospeed View Post
    Nice build! What's the thinking behind running a chain guide on an XC rig?
    better safe than sorry. with the low bb and and running a 140 fork and flush headset, i didnt want to take any chances. Its an xc bike but it's still gonna see plenty of chunk

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    Endo

    Bike Setup:
    * Frame Size & Color: Medium, Raw
    * Rear Shock: Fox Float CTD w/Trail Adjust
    * Fork: Fox 36 Float RLC @160mm
    * Brakes: Marta Magura 180/160
    * Shifter: SRAM XO
    * Cranks: XTR
    * Rear Derailleur: SRAM XO
    * Pedals: CB Candy 3
    * Stem: Thomson 80x0
    * Handlebar: Raceface SixC 725 wide
    * Seatpost: KS Lev 150
    * Saddle: Rocket SLT Ti
    * Seatpost Collar: Salsa
    * Bottom Bracket: XTR
    * Chainring: XTR 32/22
    * Cassette: XTR 34/11
    * Headset: Canecreek Forty ZS
    * Grips: ODI Lock-on
    * Front Tire: Specialized Butcher Control 2.3
    * Front Rim: ZTR Flow
    * Front Hub: Chris King
    * Rear Tire: Maxxis Ardent EXO 2.25
    * Rear Rim: ZTR Flow
    * Rear Hub: Chris King

    * 29.3 lbs

    Rider Setup:
    * Weight: 145
    * Height: 5' 10.5"

    Unfinished:
    * Cut Steerer
    * Lengthen Rear Brake Hose
    * Chainstay Protector

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    This thing is B4D 4SS
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    Quote Originally Posted by LncNuvue View Post
    Bike Setup:
    * Frame Size & Color: Medium, Raw
    * Rear Shock: Fox Float CTD w/Trail Adjust
    * Fork: Fox 36 Float RLC @160mm
    * Brakes: Marta Magura 180/160
    * Shifter: SRAM XO
    * Cranks: XTR
    * Rear Derailleur: SRAM XO
    * Pedals: CB Candy 3
    * Stem: Thompson 80x0
    * Handlebar: Raceface SixC 725 wide
    * Seatpost: KS Lev 150
    * Saddle: Rocket SLT Ti
    * Bottom Bracket: XTR
    * Chainring: XTR 32/22
    * Cassette: XTR 34/11
    * Headset: Canecreek Forty ZS
    * Grips: ODI Lock-on
    * Front Tire: Specialized Butcher Control
    * Front Rim: ZTR Flow
    * Front Hub: Chris King
    * Rear Tire: Maxxis Ardent EXO 2.25
    * Rear Rim: ZTR Flow
    * Rear Hub: Chris King

    * 29.3 lbs

    Rider Setup:
    * Weight: 145
    * Height: 5' 10.5"
    Looking forward to hearing your initial impressions and a comparison to the 5 Spot.

    Build looks great!

    TG

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    Another awesome build. I am going crazy at the moment. I have every component, except the lower headset assembly, which is a critical piece. A little mix up in communication. And, none of the local bike shops carry a 44mm zerostack so I waiting for the one that I ordered to be delivered.

    How's the Endorphin with a 36 at 160mm? I am planning to drop my 36 to 150mm to keep it quick and low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dude! View Post
    How's the Endorphin with a 36 at 160mm? I am planning to drop my 36 to 150mm to keep it quick and low.
    I can't provide any real world feedback yet. The shakedown ride is hopefully Tuesday. But, I can give you some numbers to geek out on. With the 36 @ 160 and ZS the HA reads 65.3* using a magnetic angle finder. I think the finder is off a .5* as it read my Spot at 66.5* which I'm very sure was 67*. I'll put my money on the Endo being closer 66* as it sits. The BB is bang on 13.5", WB is 45" even.

    I have a 10mm spacer coming for the 36 that I may try out if I find 160 to be too slow or floppy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LncNuvue View Post
    I can't provide any real world feedback yet. The shakedown ride is hopefully Tuesday. But, I can give you some numbers to geek out on. With the 36 @ 160 and ZS the HA reads 65.3* using a magnetic angle finder. I think the finder is off a .5* as it read my Spot at 66.5* which I'm very sure was 67*. I'll put my money on the Endo being closer 66* as it sits. The BB is bang on 13.5", WB is 45" even.

    I have a 10mm spacer coming for the 36 that I may try out if I find 160 to be too slow or floppy.
    Thanks Even though I didn't have the lower headset assembly. I did attempt to measure the headangle (also with a magnetic angle finder) and I am getting numbers similar to you (plus or minus a larger deviation owing to a bit of steertube flop). I hoping to get the headangle to 66.5 with 36 at 150mm. I like this geometry on my Delirium for pedaling.

    I am also running a zero stack. From my reading the Fox 34 are about 7mm shorter (A2C) than Fox 36. Knolly build kit is with a Fox 34 at 150mm (A2C =528 plus zero stack of 4mm, it is around 532 A2C). Endorphin is 67 at 533mm A2C. So for a headangle of 66.5 - I need A2C of ~543. Fox Float 160mm has A2C of 545. With a zero stack (+4mm), and -10mm reduction of travel (539 A2C), I should be in the preferred ballpark. Granted these are just numbers - real world testing is required.

    Note I found the Podium to be a tad slacker than suggested. I wonder if this is similar to the Endorphin. Slacker is my preferred side of the random of error.

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