KHS 650b team/800 questions

[Farmguy]

I am looking to buy either the 650 Team or the 800, but I need some information first. Does anyone have a weight on either of the 2 bikes built? Any ride time on either? I am very limited for shops in my area, the closest is 200 miles away so I am looking for a decent shop to work with on a order if and when I need a bike.

Thanks in advance.

Oh....I am in Eastern WA.
I currently ride a Jamis Nemis 650B, (selling my Spec Epic Expert after riding the 650 B)

[Clicker1]

What did you decide?

[Farmguy]

What did you decide?

I went a new route, instead of a new bike I bought the racing American Classic wheel set with a pair of Racing Ralph tires. That made my Jamis a brand new bike the difference is incredible, maybe 3-4 lbs of rotating weight so now, why buy a CF bike?