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    Sunday Expert vs Sunday WC

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    can someone tell me how the Sunday Expert frame differs from the rest of the Sunday range?

    I know the geometry is the same

    I believe the Expert frame is heavier? true? Anything elsse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuckie
    IH enthusiasts

    can someone tell me how the Sunday Expert frame differs from the rest of the Sunday range?

    I know the geometry is the same

    I believe the Expert frame is heavier? true? Anything elsse?
    I'm pretty sure for 2008 all the frames are the same. None are made in the US, and they're all the same weight.

    By the way, have you checked out this thread on Ridemonkey. It's got answers to most every question about Sundays you could imagine:

    http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=168138

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    I'll add that if you are looking at 2007 bikes , the WC is US made and the Expert is made in Taiwan. Frame weights are the same.

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    Dogboy... are you sure?

    I think that the WC is assembled in the US, and the Expert might be fully assembled in Taiwan.

    Not too sure why I think that, but I do. Haha...
    Meh.

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    same metal used on both frames?

    What are the benefits in having a frame made in US and same in Taiwan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuckie
    same metal used on both frames?

    What are the benefits in having a frame made in US and same in Taiwan?
    Yes, in 2007 both the US and Taiwan frames were the same aluminum and forged uprights, which is why they were the same weight. With 2006 and earlier frames the US made frames were lighter.

    Here is info from the Ridemonkey thread I linked in my previous post. If you read through what's over there, you will probably find answers to all your questions.

    2005-06 frames:
    The Team & World Cup are identical. Both frames use 6061 alloy & triple butted tubing.

    The Factory frame uses 6069 tubing with a different toptube butting profile, down tube butting profile, & chanistay alloy. It weighs slightly less, & is USA made.
    2007 frames:
    - New forged 7075 links top and bottom.
    - Lighter forged uprights
    - More chain guide clearance on the uprights.
    - Bolt in-main pivots.
    - 10mm self aligning shock hardware & a pretty cool way of tightening the lower shock pivot as tight as you want.
    - New graphics and stronger paint.
    - 0.9 lbs lighter (than 06' Taiwan made frames)
    - Totally new 6069 triple butted tubing.
    2007 Sundays:
    Sunday WC (complete)
    Origin = U.S.A.
    Color = Monster Green
    Shock = Fox DHX 5.0

    Sunday Team (complete)
    Origin = Taiwan
    Color = Black Diffusion
    Shock = DHX 3.0

    Sunday Elite (complete)
    Origin = U.S.A. - frame built here but shipped to Taiwan for assembly as a complete, hence "Taiwan" sticker on BB -
    Color = Espresso Brown
    Shock = Fox DHX 5.0

    Sunday Expert (complete)
    Origin = Taiwan
    Color = Black Diffusion
    Shock = Fox Van R

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