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    Replacement headset for Hollowpoint

    OK, I know I am showing my ignorance, but I figure someone on this board will have the answer. My headset (Cane Creek Zero Stack 2) died today, well the upper race blew apart. Any reccomendations on a replacement? Will a regular headset work with the Hollowpoint headtube? Thanks for any insight

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    03/04 Hollowpoints use zerostack type headsets. Cane Creek and FSA are your source for these. My personal preference is the FSA Orbits ZS.

    If you have an older Hollowpoint it uses a standard 1 1/8" headset.

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    I'm a fan of FSA Orbit ZS as well. Unless something has changed recently, FSA cups sit deeper in the head tube for a better load distribution. Cane Creek told me they had plans to follow in FSA's footsteps this year with their own deep cups, but I don't know if they ever followed through.
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    FSA Orbits ZS

    Does the FSA Orbits ZS use cartridge bearings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bacolmm
    Does the FSA Orbits ZS use cartridge bearings?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bacolmm
    Damn that was fast! Thanks Nate!!!
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    More Headset Questions...

    Quote Originally Posted by flybarry
    OK, I know I am showing my ignorance, but I figure someone on this board will have the answer. My headset (Cane Creek Zero Stack 2) died today, well the upper race blew apart. Any reccomendations on a replacement? Will a regular headset work with the Hollowpoint headtube? Thanks for any insight

    Barry
    I've got my bike apart and I'm making phone calls to the LBS's. Everyone gives you a different story and it's difficult to figure out who knows what they're talking about and who's full of shat. The stock headset in my 2004 Hollowpoint Sport started creaking so I took it apart and was surprised to see ball bearings instead of a cartridge bearing set up. I just talked with an Iron Horse dealer who couldn't tell me what headset I need for my HP? He went on to say that if it's a ball bearing headset, it can't be a zero stack? I haven't actually dug the headset out of the frame yet, but I'm pretty sure all of the HP frames are the same correct? I talked to one shop that has a Cane Creek ZS-2 in stock, but I see on their web site that there's a ZS-2 short and a ZS-2 tall? Which do I need? Are their different diameters as well? Is there only one model of FSA Orbits ZS? Is swapping out a ZS headset any different that swapping out a conventional headset (different tools needed etc.). I'm just trying to avoid multiple trips to the LBS, any help would be greatly appreciated...

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    The Cane Creek ZS series (ZS-2 and ZS-6) were originally a shallower 5mm insertion depth. A year or so ago, Cane Creek indicated they would begin selling a deeper insertion unit, but I don't know for sure if that ever materialized and whether to expect a model number change.

    FSA sells the Orbit Z, with is the deeper 7mm depth cup, and the Orbit ZS, which is the "Cane Creek compatible" shallower insertion.

    There is also a headset from WTB called the Inner Peace. I haven't seen this one, don't know what kind of bearings it uses, and have no idea how deep it is.

    The Hollowpoint headtubes are all the same and will accept any of the above headsets. They're all the same diameter. However, the deeper, the better, as far as load distribution & reduced chance of ovalization is concerned.

    Here's a Cane Creek ZS-2 cup stacked up against an FSA Orbit Z cup.

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    Thanks!

    Thanks Nate! You've been a big help!!! I ordered the FSA Orbit Z yesterday...

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    Install Help

    Quote Originally Posted by flybarry
    OK, I know I am showing my ignorance, but I figure someone on this board will have the answer. My headset (Cane Creek Zero Stack 2) died today, well the upper race blew apart. Any reccomendations on a replacement? Will a regular headset work with the Hollowpoint headtube? Thanks for any insight

    Barry
    I'm in the process of installing my new headset and I want to make sure that I do it right. Can you tell by the pics if I got everything off the forks that I need to? It's hard to tell if there's still a piece of the old bearings on the fork that needs to be removed...

    http://home.comcast.net/~bacolmm/Fork.JPG

    http://home.comcast.net/~bacolmm/Fork2.JPG

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    Holy Mother of.... that thing is filthy! Couldn't you at least wipe it off before whipping it out and waving it around in front of everyone and their sister?!? Jeez... :P

    Looks like you still have the crown race on there.

    Was that an FSA headset? If it's got a split in it (like a broken ring), insert a screwdriver blade in there and gently twist; it's pop right off.

    No split? Flip the fork upside down, rest the top of the steerer on a phone book or wood, and using your best coordination, use a flat blade screwdriver to tap that sucker off. And not just taptaptap, but get the flat edge seated as best you can and whack the crap out of it. Just be careful not to ding your crown our your aluminum steerer tube. Whack it from both sides to make it come off even.

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    Dirty

    Dirty fork porn!
    I'm in a groove now, or is it a rut?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoo00oom
    Dirty fork porn!
    I never followed up on my original post. Called Cane Creek shortly after the bearings destroyed themselves. Cane Creek sent me out a new set, no charge.

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