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    Official Azure Thread

    The Azure is a great bike and a popular model but we donšt have an official thread here in the IH forum (at least as far back as I can see). Hopefully this will take hold and the admins will sticky it. Post your setup specs, bike weight and lots of photos, and the thread should prove to be useful for all us Azure owners.

    Past Azure threads (from summer '06 onward) worth archiving:

    Photos: Azure Pics, Let's See some!
    Appreciation thread: The Azure appreciation thread!
    Six four guy needs setup help:
    Fitting Azure for a tall guy?
    Creaking issues: Creaking Azure???
    Five Six rider looking for ideal frame size:
    Question for Azure owners
    BB and spacer questions: 2006 Azure Expert factory setup problem
    Frame durability: How durable is the MkIII and Azure Frames?
    Where the deals are: Any help finding a 17" 06 Azure Expert
    Seat clamp size: What is seat Clamp's size on 2006 Azure?
    Deal on an O06 Expert: Should I buy an 06 Azure Expert???
    Seat tube support tube instead of bars on XL frame:
    Azure Frame anomaly?
    Front derailler size: Azure front derailleur size
    Decisions between sport and comp:
    Which Azure should I get?
    BB cup replacements: 2006 Azure Bottom Bracket lifetime?????
    Five seven rider choosing frame size:
    Sizing For 2006 Azure Comp
    Fork choices: Will a 4X WC fork mess up an Azure?
    Longer-travel forks: Azure Expert New Front Shock Choice
    Creaking issues: Why does my Azure go "creak, creak"?
    Rear tire choices: Largest tire on the rear of an Azure?
    Shock leverage ratio: leverage ration on azure? need help DW
    Performance disappointment/shock setup:
    Azure performances... I'm a little disappointed
    Down Tube size: Sunday Down Tube on 2008 Azure?
    From derailleur woes: 2005 Azure: Front derailleur (LX) bashing frame in granny gear
    Rear tire options: Azure Tire Thread
    First impressions: 2006 Azure Comp Initial Impressions
    Rear shock setup advice from DW:
    Azure Rear Shock setup
    Azure or MKIII: Which bike to get? Azure or MKIII
    Shock hardware: Specifications on Azure shock hardware?
    Anthem or Azure: Anthem1 vs IH Azure Expert (X-Post)
    So-so MBA review: What did MBA not like about the Azure?
    Different forks on the Azure: Setting up/dialing in a 'dealer-ready' 2005 Azure
    Dirt Rag review: Dirt Rag to review Azure

    As for my own steed, here's the details (most components are from an '06 Trance):
    2006 Iron Horse Azure 17" frame (yellow!), 90mm travel
    All components are 2006 except where noted:
    Fork: Rockhox Reba Race (spacer removed to achieve 115mm of travel)
    Shock: Fox Float R
    Brakes: Hayes XFX9 Hydraulic
    Shifters: X9
    Rear Der: X9
    Front Der: Deore
    Chain: Sram PC-971
    Cranks and BB: Race Face Evolve XC
    Cassette: Sram PG980 11-34
    Headset: I don't know
    Post: Thomson Elite 27.2 (2007)
    Bar: Race Face Evolve XC riser
    Stem: Race Face Evolve XC
    Front wheel: Mavic 317, DT Competition spokes, DT Cerit Disc hub
    Rear wheel: Mavic 317, ?? spokes, Deore hub
    Tires: Front: Kenda Nevegal 2.1, Rear: Hutchinson Bulldog Airlight 2.1, both with tubes
    Pedals: Shimano 540

    Weight: Unoffical 27s

    If I could get my 2.1 Nevegal in the rear tire position I'd be 100% happy with this bike. As is I run the Hutch Bulldog which doesn't grip nearly as well. I've heard great things about the Maxxis Crossmark 2.1 which fits, but I'm not dropping the $55 on one just yet. Possibly going tubeless will help squish a meatier tire back there.
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    Nice bike! Here's mine...


    19" 05 Azure Expert Frame
    Manitou QR (non platform)
    Manitou Minute 2 100mm
    WTB LaserDisc Lite /Mavic 717
    XT Shifters,derailleurs
    Team Stylo Crank
    Ritchey pedals
    WTB saddle
    28lb approx.

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    5'9 186lbs



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    WOW! What a thread! Just look at all this information. Thanks!

    2006 Iron Horse Comp Stock except for Specialized Armadillo tires, OS bar ends, and Shimano Pedals. Pics when I get a cameral.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RockadileSX
    WOW! What a thread! Just look at all this information. Thanks!
    My pleasure. But it'll only be worth archiving or sticky-ing if you add your specs, weight and some photos too. I have a race this weekend so hopefully I'll get some race shots for the thread.

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    Some pics form this past weekend -- sorry they're not great photos. The posed shot is from the race course Saturday pre-ride and the two racing shots are obviously from Sunday's race. This was my second race on the frame and any problems I've had are either from the drivetrain or my lungs. The Azure rocks.

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    Another race, another win. Yawn.

    Well, 7th place anyway. But the Azure did well. Getting her a new wheelset this winter and hopefully she'll net some podiums next season. New XT set looks real nice, so it's either that, American Racing 350 or a custom build, most likely with Hope Pro IIs.


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    Good action shot!

    Nice job with the race! I just got 9th out of 34. I was running around 6th for two laps, but
    ran out of juice near the end. I should have run sports drink in my camel back.

    The Azure rocked the course. I even saw someone racing an MKiii.

    I now have a cold, so I guess I'll skip my last race. Maybe.

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    just recently got a used azure frame set..very excited to get riding on it. planning to transfer My Fox 100RLC & 08 XT drive train from current Ti hardtail to it..
    Building up wheel set using my existing mavic717 v-brake rims with new Tune King/Kong Hubs+sapim spokes . also plan to get the new 08XT hydro brakes

    some pics attached


    my current bike


    Very excited to join the IH family..
    cheers
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    1x9 Azure

    Turned my Azure into a 1x9 in December and I couldn't be happier. Kept the 32-tooth ring up front and slapped on some blackspire plates and removed the front der., shifter and cable -- and now it's quieter, lighter and makes me stronger (no more granny). I may replace the 32-tooth with a 34 at some point but for now I'm thrilled with the setup. We'll see how training goes but the race season starts May 4 and I may keep it.


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    2006 Iron Horse Azure 19" frame (blue), 90mm travel

    Fork: Fox F100R
    Shock: Fox Float R
    Brakes: Avid Juicy 7
    Shifters: XT 760
    Rear Der: XT 760
    Front Der: XT 760
    Chain: Wippermann 908
    Cranks and BB: XT 760
    Cassette: XT 760
    Headset: Stock headset that comes on 2006 expert
    Post: Thomson Elite 27.2
    Bar: Ritchey WCS AL Rizer, cut to 25.25"
    Stem: Ritchey WCS 100 mm
    Front wheel: Stock DT wheels that come on 2006 Expert
    Rear wheel: Stock DT wheels that come on 2006 Expert
    Tires: Front: Kenda Small Block 8 DTC 2.1", Rear: Kenda Small Block 8 DTC 2.1", both with tubes (Salsa)
    Pedals: Time ATAC XS
    Waterbottle holder: cheap Profile Designs one
    Grips: Lizard Skins Moab bolt-on
    Lizard Skins clear chainstay protector and paint protector patches where cables contact frame

    Weight: 27.99 lbs. measured with Ultimate digital scale

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    27.99 is a 27 lb bike in my book!

    How do you like the small blocks? Compared to what you had before? I have a 2.3 Ignitor on the front now (same size as the 2.1 Nevegal) and am looking forward to testing it out this weekend.

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    my 06 world cup!!! and oh yes small blocks rock!!
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    Rear tire choices

    I compiled all the tires I've seen people running in the rear on their Azures. So you know they all fit. Though some guy swore he could get a 2.1 Nevegal back there and I can't even come close.

    2.1 hutch bulldog
    2.1 hutch python
    2.1 maxxis crosmark
    2.1 maxxis ignitor
    2.1 highroller
    2.1 IRC Serac
    2.1 IRC Mythos (barely)
    2.1 Panaracer Trailblaster
    2.1 Exiwolf (barely)
    2.1 Kenda Small Blocks
    Michelin Comp S (zep to confirm size)
    Spesh Roll-X (zep to confirm size)
    Spesh Armadillo (RockadileSX to confirm size)

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    Nice work on the tire compilation.

    SB8's are great on hardpack and when trail is not too technical. When I ride more sketchy stuff I switch the front to a 2.35 Nevegal or Blue Groove. I just leave the rear as it is. The SB8 let's me squeek in under 28 lbs, haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJ-XC-Justin
    Turned my Azure into a 1x9 in December and I couldn't be happier. Kept the 32-tooth ring up front and slapped on some blackspire plates and removed the front der., shifter and cable -- and now it's quieter, lighter and makes me stronger (no more granny). I may replace the 32-tooth with a 34 at some point but for now I'm thrilled with the setup. We'll see how training goes but the race season starts May 4 and I may keep it.


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    Where did you get that backing (inner) ring? Does it bolt to the granny bolt circle? Pretty cool setup!
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    Quote Originally Posted by On-One
    Where did you get that backing (inner) ring? Does it bolt to the granny bolt circle? Pretty cool setup!
    Blackspire Blackguard -- it replaces the granny so you don't lose your chain off the inside. You can up the size of your chainring to 34 teeth and still use the Blackguard and Lite God -- which itself is less a bashguard and more a chain guide.

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    [QUOTE=NJ-XC-Justin]I compiled all the tires I've seen people running in the rear on their Azures. So you know they all fit. Though some guy swore he could get a 2.1 Nevegal back there and I can't even come close.

    Michelin Comp S (zep to confirm size)
    Spesh Roll-X (zep to confirm size)
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    The Mich Comp S is labled a 2.0.
    The Roll-X is also a 2.0
    Both tires have a 'high-volume' casing; ~ 50-51mm wide, per my caliper.

    A Panaracer Razer MX 2.3 fits fine as well. Very fast tire and quite light for the size, ~ 535grams. Best 'race-type' tire I've tried on the the Azure, in the dry.

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    how much would a stock 06 azure sport weigh? I really like the frame on it but would probably transfer all the parts from my hardtail now. do they frames differ from level to level? Thanks

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    Depending on size, I'm guessing 29lbs for the sport. Ashwin rebuilt his sport to under 25lbs for the 17" size. The frames are all the same except the Factory (which is US made). The rear shock differs on the frames.

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    Hey, need some opinions. Thinking of buying a 07 Azue for my beginner wife. The price is right but I'mworried about only having 90mm of rear wheel travel. I'd like something more plush but for the money the Azue is probably a better investment. I'm not out much if she doesn't take to it.

    Anyway, how would the bike handle if I put on a 2" stroke shock to increase the rear to 100mm travel? I could offset the frame geo by having more sag.

    We ride mostly rooty single track in the north east.

    What does eveyone think?

    David

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTB'n Louie
    Hey, need some opinions. Thinking of buying a 07 Azue for my beginner wife. The price is right but I'mworried about only having 90mm of rear wheel travel. I'd like something more plush but for the money the Azue is probably a better investment. I'm not out much if she doesn't take to it.

    Anyway, how would the bike handle if I put on a 2" stroke shock to increase the rear to 100mm travel? I could offset the frame geo by having more sag.

    We ride mostly rooty single track in the north east.

    What does eveyone think?

    David
    It sounds like she might be better suited for a MKIII rather than a Azure, from my experience Azure's are pure bred race bikes( Geo wise ) MKIII would give her some extra travel and more up right riding.

    Just my .02 cents.
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    Anyone know if a Panaracer Cinder 2.1 fits on the rear of an Azure?
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    Quote Originally Posted by motormonkeyr6
    It sounds like she might be better suited for a MKIII rather than a Azure, from my experience Azure's are pure bred race bikes( Geo wise ) MKIII would give her some extra travel and more up right riding.

    Just my .02 cents.
    I definitely don't agree that the Azure is a pure race bike. Head angle at 70 degrees and seat angle at 73 degress is classic trail bike geometry, whereas bikes like the Anthem have head angles of 72 degrees -- now THAT is a race bike. If the terrain is seriously choppy, the extra inch and a half of travel on the MKIII would be nice, but there's also around 3 pounds of penalty there as well -- something to consider for the uphills.

    As for the question of the 2.1 Cinder fitting in the rear, without knowing, I'd say it would be close and a possible no-go. Nevegals don't fit, and the knobs on the Cinder are almost that size. Along with frame weight, this is the area where the Azure needs definite improving, and where they will most likely lose me to another brand if they don't get it together. The frame needs to be 5.5 lbs or less and you need to fit a 2.3 tire back there.

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    Set Up

    Hey,

    On a 07 Arure can the rear end be set up plush for a 120 lb rider or would I have to have the shock PUSHED? Normally bikes/shocks are tuned for an average rider weight, that being much heavier than say 120 lbs.

    I need it plush for my wife who is a novice rider looking for a smooth ride.

    Thanks

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    New question here. Azure Comp question

    I've been looking around this site and reading up on the IH Azure Comp for a while now and I am itching to make a purchase. However, recently I've been toying with the idea of the MKIII. Can any of you tell me if the Azure Comp would be well suited as an all around Trail bike, as I dont really plan on doing much racing but I could see myself getting to that point as I get more comfortable with the bike. Some folks here have said the Azure is not built to leave the ground and I am just wondering if the components would hold up to some light jumps mostly incountered on the trails around my house. This will be my first full suspension MTB and I'm really not sure what to expect.

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