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    Internal Hub MTBs, post yours here!

    It started out as a commuter project, I've since seen the light, internal hub geared bikes are great on the trail.

    Motobecane Outcast 29er frame, raw
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    FSA V-Drive Megaexo Crankset, raw
    Shimano M520 pedals
    Shimano Dynamo Front hub
    SRAM I-Motion 9 rear hub
    Mavic TN717 rims
    Kenda 2.2" Karma
    Avid BB7 front brake
    Avid Speed 7 rear brake
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    ThudBuster ST seatpost, raw
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    I like what you did with those bar ends.

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    Assuming the shop does everything right Iím picking my Trance up with Alfine tomorrow morning.

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    I gave up a complete 2008 XT/XTR setup that’s lighter and works brilliantly so this better be good, so far on a short road ride it felt great. Black Shimano Alfine 8spd hub with Surly Singleator tensioner and Race Face bash guard. Also had a Hutchinson Toro 1.85/2.15 tire combo put on which explains the delightful amount of mud clearance on the back compared to the Michelin’s.





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    Quote Originally Posted by wheezee
    Nice avatar Wheezee, oh and cool bike too.

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    First ride was Sunday, with its extras like a Surly Singleator chain tensioner, Race Face bash guard which I probably didn’t need and Sram SS chain which again I probably didn’t need it weights quite a bit more than the old XT/XTR setup but so long as it stays as good as the first ride I wouldn’t change it for anything. The bike feels a bit weird at the moment because I’ve now got a strong, solid feeling rear rim and a front rim best described as flimsy that you can physically see flexing on tight corners but I’ll have that fixed soon and I’ll have some lighter bits to compensate for the weight increase. Anyway, as others have said the shift is so slick you hardly notice it, all the gears feel super smooth, the hub is completely silent which I love, to my surprise it spins freely after hardly any use, it always shifts when pedalling although it does take a little longer if your really pedalling hard, the shifter works in reverse of a normal derailleur type shifter in that you release the smaller lever get into easier gears etc which I think I will be able to get used to, the highest gear is just about perfect for the fast XC riding in my area but I haven’t had a chance to take it to more challenging terrain to try out the lower gears yet. I’m running 18T rear cog and 32T front and I also put a set of Hutchinson Toro 1.85 & 2.15 tires on to improve mud performance over the Michelin dry weather tires previously on there.












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    Quote Originally Posted by EGF168
    Nice avatar Wheezee, oh and cool bike too.
    Too kind.

    Don't stand so close, I have a congenitally infirm immune system.
    Where's...my...inhaler?

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    Not exactly the best backdrop, but I was tired after towing the other bike on the trailer. A lot of bash rings from everyone out there so far. I'd have to run one on the inside of the chainring because of the Rohloff chainline, and I'm not quite sure that's legal to do.


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    my carbon swathed rohloff:




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    Good God! Well I never.
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    I cannot shake the desire to build an IGH trail bike. I built a 1x7 with Saint rear mech to try to take the edge off. Love the bike, but here I am drooling on this thread.

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    Inglis 29 Rohloff with Paragon sliders.
    Curtis updated the frame that I have had since 2002 with a new rear triangle for Paragon sliders and Rohloff cable routing.




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    You guys rock. I love your bikes. Pursuiter, Wheezee your bike in particular are almost exactly what I want in an IGH trail bike.

    Wheezee, you have an aesthetic eye and it shows in your bike. Not often I think of a trail bike as elegant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody Broken
    You guys rock. I love your bikes. Pursuiter, Wheezee your bike in particular are almost exactly what I want in an IGH trail bike.

    Wheezee, you have an aesthetic eye and it shows in your bike. Not often I think of a trail bike as elegant.
    Thanks for saying so Cody, much appreciated. If you ever saw me on it, I think elegant is probably the last word to come to mind!

    Robin Mather the frame builder, is local to me here in the UK, and I think he made rather a nice job of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EGF168
    First ride was Sunday, with its extras like a Surly Singleator chain tensioner, Race Face bash guard which I probably didn’t need and Sram SS chain which again I probably didn’t need it weights quite a bit more than the old XT/XTR setup but so long as it stays as good as the first ride I wouldn’t change it for anything. The bike feels a bit weird at the moment because I’ve now got a strong, solid feeling rear rim and a front rim best described as flimsy that you can physically see flexing on tight corners but I’ll have that fixed soon and I’ll have some lighter bits to compensate for the weight increase. Anyway, as others have said the shift is so slick you hardly notice it, all the gears feel super smooth, the hub is completely silent which I love, to my surprise it spins freely after hardly any use, it always shifts when pedalling although it does take a little longer if your really pedalling hard, the shifter works in reverse of a normal derailleur type shifter in that you release the smaller lever get into easier gears etc which I think I will be able to get used to, the highest gear is just about perfect for the fast XC riding in my area but I haven’t had a chance to take it to more challenging terrain to try out the lower gears yet. I’m running 18T rear cog and 32T front and I also put a set of Hutchinson Toro 1.85 & 2.15 tires on to improve mud performance over the Michelin dry weather tires previously on there.

    All please take note that EGF168 dispensed with an XTR drive train to venture into IGH. His thumbs up is high praise indeed.

    You rock EGF168.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody Broken
    All please take note that EGF168 dispensed with an XTR drive train to venture into IGH. His thumbs up is high praise indeed.

    You rock EGF168.
    Why thank you! I was a bit worried the gears werenít low enough for some of the steep sections but yesterday and this morning I did rides that had some very steep hills and the gears were great, who needs 27 gears when you can have 8 that do just as good job.





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    My Kona A in an environment it excels at (rare as it is in Vancouver).
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    Quote Originally Posted by xy9ine
    my carbon swathed rohloff:



    WTF. Who knew Batman had his own mountain bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marzjennings
    WTF. Who knew Batman had his own mountain bike.
    I wasn't going to say anything, but damn!

    xy9ine, what is that thing? And please post action shots. I want to see that thing flying through the air or something.

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    Mine KHS AM2000 Alfine


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    xy9ine, WTF is that?????????? More details please. Who made it and price?
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    11-36 XTR in the rear, 36T wide-narrow upfront

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loewa
    Mine KHS AM2000 Alfine

    Loewa, at first I thought you were using a front derailleur for chain retention, but I see cable running to that mech and the chain is running on an inner ring.

    How's it working running two rings up front? Gives you gear range out the wazoo!

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    Good god! I have never seen the likes of that before. We want details!

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    2007 Redline Monocog/Nexus 7-Speed

    I'm just getting back into biking when time permits. I rode BMX in the 80's, but haven't been on a bike much in the last 12 years. I had acquired a bike with a Nexus hub years ago, but the frame was a little short for me & my knees (that aren't what they used to be). The plan was to get a taller frame and use all of the parts from the bike I already had since I was on a budget. At first, I was lost on what type of frame to even look for (being out of it for so long), but a few places like here brought me up to speed a little. Now, I think the only stuff left from the other bike is the rear wheel, tires, seat post, pedals, water bottle cage, and brake/shift levers. Most of the parts were had on eBay at good prices. I love the clean lines & simplicity of a singlespeed, but it's also nice for my knees to have some gears. There's still a bunch of things I want to do with it, but for now, at least I'm riding again.

    2007 Redline Monocog Flight (for 26" wheels)
    Shimano Nexus 7-speed hub, 18T & push-button shifter
    Profile 180mm BMX cranks
    Redline euro bottom bracket
    DK 36T sprocket
    Odyssey pedals
    KMC K710SL chain
    Avid BB7 front brake
    Shimano roller brake rear
    Chris King front hub
    Raceface stem/bars
    Velo/Redline seat

    I got a good deal on the complete front wheel -- does anybody have a matching single rim for the rear? It's a 26" Mavic EX721 grey anodized 36 hole.






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    Quote Originally Posted by lucero
    Good god! I have never seen the likes of that before. We want details!
    go to Ridemonkey.com DH forum. search for 'Lahar'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue78
    I'm just getting back into biking when time permits. I rode BMX in the 80's, but haven't been on a bike much in the last 12 years. I had acquired a bike with a Nexus hub years ago, but the frame was a little short for me & my knees (that aren't what they used to be). The plan was to get a taller frame and use all of the parts from the bike I already had since I was on a budget. At first, I was lost on what type of frame to even look for (being out of it for so long), but a few places like here brought me up to speed a little. Now, I think the only stuff left from the other bike is the rear wheel, tires, seat post, pedals, water bottle cage, and brake/shift levers. Most of the parts were had on eBay at good prices. I love the clean lines & simplicity of a singlespeed, but it's also nice for my knees to have some gears. There's still a bunch of things I want to do with it, but for now, at least I'm riding again.

    2007 Redline Monocog Flight (for 26" wheels)
    Shimano Nexus 7-speed hub, 18T & push-button shifter
    Profile 180mm BMX cranks
    Redline euro bottom bracket
    DK 36T sprocket
    Odyssey pedals
    KMC K710SL chain
    Avid BB7 front brake
    Shimano roller brake rear
    Chris King front hub
    Raceface stem/bars
    Velo/Redline seat

    I got a good deal on the complete front wheel -- does anybody have a matching single rim for the rear? It's a 26" Mavic EX721 grey anodized 36 hole.






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    I like the bike. Does the roller brake work well? Do you use v brake levers?

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    My ride is a Work In Progress. Still waiting on a 38 tooth ring gear for the front, then the front derailleur is gone, along with the 44 tooth ring gear. Brand new 8 speed chain. Laced the rear hub myself, (a first) and got it close to finished tension, only to find out I botched the lace job, doing it French Lace instead of European Lace on the Mavic EN321 D. Got help from jeffj on final true, roundness and tension for a great wheel build worthy of this Clyde.

    Picked up a Tiagra shorty for a tensioner, adjusted it full in to clean up the drive train line on the high gear side.





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    The hub does take a while to break in, it does have some idiosyncracies, but it
    shifts fast and smooth, like no other I've ridden.

    Bike is pretty much Euro Spec'd save the Shimano pseudo tensioner, pedals and the SRAM cranks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JediSith
    I like the bike. Does the roller brake work well? Do you use v brake levers?
    Thanks. The roller brake is not the best. It's ok for relaxed biking; not for "spirited" biking. I like it when I'm putting around with the kids. Yes; V-brake levers. I wish a disc adaptor was readily available for the nexus hub.

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    Yes it worked very vell! In the first stage i don't understand what i am need. And ride 18 - 32,36 sometimes 22 , but was winter, studded tire and more, more snow - then and now 20-36 only - here, there and everywhere
    ps sorry from my bad russian english


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    Quote Originally Posted by biketuna
    xy9ine, WTF is that?????????? More details please. Who made it and price?
    as mentioned earlier, its a lahar, built in nz by an eccentric by the name of aaron franklin. he's been building rohloff based carbon dh frames for a few years now (in very limited quantities), and this is the latest iteration. i believe he's built about 15 of these so far, but has run into personal / financial 'difficulties' recently, and the company seems to be currently defunct. it's a pretty neat bike; centralized mass / low cg, super low unsprung weight, stiff, decently light (despite the weighty rohloff - 37lbs as it sits), with amazing high speed stability / bump eating capabilities. the bomber drivetrain is icing; i'll be sad if i ever have to run a dangly dťrailleur on a dh bike again. frame mounting the gearhub makes so much sense; i've ridden a buddy's wheel mounted rohloff dh bike previously, and that much mass at the end of the swingarm is definitely detrimental to handling & suspension performance. obviously i'm a big fan of gearbox bikes...

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    And Hard Tail equals two IGB MTBs

    Finally found the time to finish my Alfine project.
    I'm running a 32/22 giving the equivalent of a 22/30 gear (frt ring=22T, rear cog=30T!).
    Took it out for a ride this am, gotta love IGH goodness in the morning.
    I even found an 185mm centerlock disc:
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    Nice build. Looks like a blast to ride.
    Paint job should about anti-theft it.
    Running that big ring until you get a bash?

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    Yea, I have a 32T Surly SS chainring and a plastic bash guard on order.
    I am also going to try the grip shifter, I really like my I-M9 grip shifter.
    In a week or two, I'll strip the frame and do another natural project.
    With the Thudbauster and Alfine, I'm loving my hardtail again.
    I'm just not smart enough to keep a deraillieur running right

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    Here is mine:





    it was first fitted with an sturmey archer 8, sadly it didn't last very long. I have been using an alfine / trigger shifter since February and it is still going strong. it copes just fine with jumps, drops, dust, mud and dh in general.
    G-EVO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monkeybike
    Here is mine:
    cool frame. you build that yourself? very dark cycles / brooklyn - esque.

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    bikes do look soooooo much cleaner with a straight chain.

    Quote Originally Posted by xy9ine
    cool frame. you build that yourself? very dark cycles / brooklyn - esque.
    thanks. Yes, it is an all stainless steel homemade bike. a shame I haven't find the time to finish it properly (polish to shine).

    this was the last modification to it:



    a second shifter to down shift with your left thumb.
    G-EVO

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    Tandem Nexus

    This is my Schwinn 1960's tandem with a Nexus 8. Just built.

    The Fork is a Trailblade

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    Alfine Pugsley

    First ride on the Alfine today, I ran singlespeed last winter. It handled a couple hours of snowy singletrack with no issues. I like.




    Running 33x22 gearing on 190 mm Profile Racing cranks.



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    I sort of proved a point a couple of weeks ago by winning a race onboard an Alfine...







    Now that winter is rapidly catching us up, I`ve had to park my commuter roady and Alfine is doing its duty on the 34km trip to work.

    Disclaimer. I now sell bicycles and bicycle tyres.

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    This is the first time I have really seen anything like this. I have a 36 hole rim laying around. I guess its time to purchase a IGH!

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    I am getting ready my town bike soon, just looking for the right fork at the moment, I will be running an sturmey archer 8. can't wait to ride it to work everyday.

    have any of you with the suspension bikes have had any issues with the un-sprung weight?
    I haven't. it could well be that I am a lousy rider so I haven't been able to notice.
    G-EVO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monkeybike
    have any of you with the suspension bikes have had any issues with the un-sprung weight?
    I havenít really noticed the extra weight on my bike when riding, itís only when I pick it up to lift it through a gate or something that I really notice the extra weight.

    My Alfine is still working great BTW.



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    Missfit DiSSent meets Alfine:

    I couldn't stand the chain tensioner on my Motobecane Fantom29er, so I bought a Missfit Dissent. All the parts swapped over just fine, took less than an hour to get up and running. This in not a lightweight, I like strong and un-breakable, hence the 4.6lb frame, Tora shock and Mavic 319 rims

    Check out the sliding vertical dropouts, perfect for an IGH hub. Also look at the gussets on the head tube, very beefy. I ordered it raw/disc only, no need to strip the paint off this baby!

    Misfit DiSSent 19"
    Tora 318 Solo Air 29er
    Chris King HS
    Eason Monkeylite bars
    Shimano LX M580 175mm
    32T Surly Stainless Steel Chainring
    E13 Clear bash guard
    Shimano M520 pedals
    Mavic 319 rims
    DT 2.0 spokes
    Shimano XT 756 QR/Disc
    Shimano Alfine 8-speed
    Avid BB7 203mm/185mm
    Shimano XT levers
    Nexus grip shift
    Thudbuster 27.2mm LT
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    Vassago Jabberwocky, meet i-Motion 9

    I had an extra rear wheel with SRAM's i-Motion 9 hub, very dangerous! My Outcast29 reverted back to a commuter with a Nexus 8/roller brake. I missed having an rigid 29er with IGH. I started looking around and decided it was time to try out a steel frame, perfect complement to the i-M 9. I arrived on the Vassago JB, ordered it from TRails-edge in MI. I received the 09 frame, has different gusset on headtube.

    I love the simple look of this frame. The horizontal dropouts work well with an IGH, the adjusters are simple and effective. I had to go for the frame/fork combo, glad I did. This frame is ultra stable, reminds me of the early Ritchy frames, you could ride over a small log no hands, this frame is no different.

    Vassago Jabberwocky 20"
    Vassago Pitch Fork
    Chris King HS
    Misfit FU bars
    FSA V-Drive Megaexo 175mm
    34T Surly Stainless Steel Chain Ring
    FSA Clear Bash Guard
    Shimano M520 pedals
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    SRAM grip shift
    Thudbuster 27.2mm ST
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    Bone White, meet....

    ...mud. This thing handles great. The Wet Cat geometery is my style, 71* head angle, 18" chainstays. Covers the single track w/style:
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    Alfine committed to Asylum

    It started life as an eBay/parts bin rigid SS 29er last fall. I added the Alfine to the rigid frameset this summer, but that frame cracked shortly thereafter and I decided to go full suspension 29er - I've probably put 26" wheels behind me for good. I only have a couple rides with the Alfine on the Asylum, but so far so good.




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    Old bike new hub. Love it. I plan to use it as a long haul rig for next year with a few 50+ miles races which I attend because the courses are cool not because I stand to place. So far so good. 2 50+ days so far and about 300 miles. Can't say a bad thing about it yet. From a King hub to this is not quite the engagement but getting used to it. Might play with the 34x18 a bit for hard days but like it so far. Mud not a problem, shifting under pressure up hard climbs different, engagement different, not bad just got to acclimate. I hate those derailluuirrrsssisss thingys so this works great for me. More range than I would have thought and makes the commute to the trail a breeze.
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    Alfine Black Sheep

    I posted a seperate thread about this bike, but figured I would add it here as well. Black Sheep custom Ti frame with extending chainstays and black 32h Alfine hub. I run singlespeed in the summer, but like some gears for the winter, and maybe some endurance events. Enjoy:
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