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    [QUOTE=kustomz;10421256]bsieb, thanks for the details. I am not sure why I am so hung up on an IGH? Especially when my 1x9 Deore works absolutely flawless, but this helps me know that I am on the right track cost wise. Decisions, decisions...[/QUOTE

    I find that the IGH works well. It has some idiosyncrasies, like backwards shifting, can't shift under pressure, some gears make a little noise, and the available shifters are disappointingly cheesy. Mostly just things to get used to in return for a geared low maintenance drive train.
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    I'd gladly share what I have. I just need to find a spring to return the thumb shifter, the one that came with it won't work. I have attached some pictures describing how it works. Let me know if you have any questions. Cheers.
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    I will post some outdoor photos shortly. The bike weights 18.2 lbs right now but I still have to add the front wheel (the one on there now is pretty heavy) and change out the shifter. I anticipate it will be somewhere in the 17s..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnybags View Post
    Hiya. I hope you realise what you have done if you get a brifter working with a Rohloff?!!!! If you can let me know how you did it or do another one, I would buy it from you! There are a LOT of people itching to get their hands on one and NOBODY is making any!
    What jonny has said !
    The shifting is the 1st thing that I'd change on my Rohloff.

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    That makes a lot of sense - however my own skills do not reach to this. If it works, would you be able to adapt another unit for me? Beyond that, if you create a blueprint/patent, you would have a decent shot at production runs and making some money/refining the unit to be a purpose built one. Also, only a kilo over UCI weight limit is an epic bike!

    Just think of the acceleration on the thing using the sequential possibilities of the hub!

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    Recently upgraded my bike, had an IGH before but since last posting here is the latest incarnation..

    I decided that I wanted the dull black hub to match my red front hub and the red theme on the bike, so after a strip down and service of the internals - I had it resprayed.. I am pleased with the end results.





    All built up and using the Shimano Centre Lock was able to fit my Hope 203mm rotors.


    Opted to run a triple ring up front (44-36-22) on a 18T rear ring. I find these ratios give me everything I need - I had previously tried 42-32-26 on a 20T but found the ratios not spaced out enough for my riding style.. most of the time it is in the middle ring (36) but overall I now have 3 extra gears below and two extra above my middle ring. An 11 speed Alfine would cure this but better the devil you know..



    All in all the bike does just I have always wanted - 60% of my riding is off road and off road it gets riden hard but other than a few rider errors and accidents, everything has served me very well.

    Weight wise, on a back to back (rear wheel only) I am giving up 0.9Kg over a non IGH dťrailleur system and when I add in the batteries to run my monster lighting system, then at 17.4Kg, I can live with that.

    FULL SPEC..
    * Frame: ROCKY MOUNTAIN ALTITUDE CR90
    * Fork: X-FUSION VENGEANCE 170 HLR
    * Shock: FOX Float RP23 (PUSHED)
    * Brakes: HOPE 203mm M6 & M4 Ė CERAMIC PADS
    * Cranks: SHIMANO SLX
    * Front Mech: SHIMANO DIRECT MOUNT
    * Rear Mech: SHIMANO ALFINE 8-speed
    * Pedals: CRANK BRO ACID 3
    * Stem: EASTON MTB Vice
    * Handlebar: EASTON
    * Seatpost: RACEFACE TURBINE
    * Saddle: SELLE ITALIA
    * Bottom Bracket: HOPE 68mm CERAMIC
    * Headset: HOPE + 2x Head Doctors
    * Front Tire: MAXXIS ADVANTAGE 2.40
    * Front Rim: BRAVE DLUX 32mm
    * Front Hub/Skewer: HOPE PRO II (20mm conversion)
    * Rear Tire: MAXXIS ADVANATAGE 2.25
    * Rear Rim: BRAVE DLUX 32mm
    * Weight 17.4Kg (with two sets of lights and 8x Li-ion batteries)

    In this guise and with the bike's overall geometry, it flies on the flat, climbs well though there is a tendency to lift up at the front - but this makes clearing obstructions easy but on the way back down, it is very sure of itself and is much more planted without having to stick my bum out too far.
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    Hiya - got to say I'm itching to see how your build (ESPECIALLY THE SHIFTER!!!) is going! What news do you have?

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    here is mine

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    It's not an IGH, but a gearbox - Nicolai Helius AC Pinion.


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    Oh you suck! I so want one of those!

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    How do you like the Pinion ?
    Can you compare to IGH ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fokof View Post
    How do you like the Pinion ?
    Can you compare to IGH ?
    A Pinion gearbox review...

    The reason I went for a Pinion gearbox was because I went through a period of 18 months where I destroyed 6 rear derailleurs on the different bikes by either catching sticks in them or in one case slipping between some rocks and wedging the derailleur in between. The other option was Rohloff IGH but I didn't like the idea of the weight being located at the wheel. So I waited nearly 8 months for a frame with a Pinion gearbox.

    The set up was pretty straight forward. I gave it to the bike shop and they did it! The mechanic who worked on it said it was okay except for trying to grab the ends of the cable to secure when there is very little space available. The frame came with the cable already threaded through the gearbox.

    After the first ride I adjusted the cable tension at home. I thought it would be a good idea to set it up myself to make sure I could do it. The instructions were very clear, with excellent diagrams. The cable is a single piece about 3m long. I did not go through the process of winding it though the gearbox but it looks easy enough. I secured the cables at the shifter, as per the instructions, and it all worked well. There is very little space in the shifter for grabbing the cable ends, especially after they have already been cut. I had to grab the end with some tweezers, then some long nose pliers to pull them firmly and them tighten the clamp up. Overall, about a 15 minute job including removing and replacing the cover. The barrel adjusters have to be in a specific location to start with and they have plenty of thread on them to adjust in both directions as needed.

    All of the online reviews I'd read discussed shifting to an easier gear had to be done by reducing the load on the pedals. This didn't quite prepare me for the change in technique I'd have to make. You can shift to an easier gear under a very, very slight load, but generally you have to back off completely. It's taken me a few rides to get used to and I was very skeptical about how it would ride in technical terrain, but I didn't miss a shift on the last techy ride I did. You do lose a little momentum when climbing and trying to shift, but it's about the same as when I'd shift a derailleur now. Shifting to a harder gear can be done at any time without any issues.

    There is a little bit of noise in the 7th and 13th gears. A quiet clicking. This is discussed in the manual as being normal and it doesn't seem to affect the performance at all. It isn't distracting either. There is also a distinct feel of the gear engaging when you start pedalling. If I have been rolling along and then start pedalling you can feel the gears engage again. This is apparently normal as well, just a little odd feeling after riding derailleurs for so long.

    The shifter itself feels really well made. I haven't used gripshift since Gripshift was the actual brand! It took no time at all to get used to. 2 minutes in and I was shifting freely in the correct direction each time. The change between gears is a consistent 11.5% and changes are almost undetectable! It is super smooth. The ratios all feel good so far without feeling like a jump has been too large or too small between gears. Low gear is low enough to climb everything I would normally climb when my Firebird was set up 1x10 (32t chainring 11-36 cassette) and with the 2x10 Liteville (26/38 chainrings 11-36 cassette). The other end of the gear range is sufficient for fats fireroad stuff as well.

    The weight of the gearbox is located low in the frame and the only time I really feel it is when trying to lift the rear wheel. It's not the same heavy feeling of a Rohloff at the rear wheel, but it's a noticeable difference to a standard rear derailleur. Changing direction quickly doesn't seem to be affected by the position or weight of the gearbox. It actually feels a bit more stable when plowing through rougher stuff.

    The whole unit feels very stiff as well. I can't feel any flex in the cranks coming from Shimano Saints and XTR cranks on the other bikes. The bb area feels very firm. I do think that the gearbox has had an affect on the rear tyre size I can run, as the position of the bb pivot has been moved slightly from the regular model frame to accomodate the gearbox and the 2.2" Conti RQ/TK doesn't have heaps of extra space like the Liteville or Firebird have. I wouldn't run a larger tyre in the rear due to the space, but I wouldn't run a larger rear tyre anyhow.

    Being able to shift without pedalling is a great feature. I can go into a corner in whatever gear I want and come out in the right gear for that surprise pinch climb that has popped up. It can change as many gears at once as you can shift.

    So overall, I can't see me going back to a regular derailleur if I don't have to! If Pinion or someone else was able to keep the current or expand the gear range in a lighter weight package that would be fantastic. If something could be retrofitted to current frame designs and maintain the stiffness and functionality that would be great too. A light weight version for road bikes would even see me move away from Di2! The only negative for me has been getting used to shifting under load but now that is all good.

    Gearboxes have to be the way forward. I was hoping for a full carbon Firebird with a Pinion gearbox, but the Nicolai has certainly done a great job replacing the old Firebird.

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    [QUOTE=bsieb;10424757]
    Quote Originally Posted by kustomz View Post
    bsieb, thanks for the details. I am not sure why I am so hung up on an IGH? Especially when my 1x9 Deore works absolutely flawless, but this helps me know that I am on the right track cost wise. Decisions, decisions...[/QUOTE

    I find that the IGH works well. the available shifters are disappointingly cheesy.
    Not all of them.....
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    Just finished an Alfine 8-speed hub install (by my LBS) on my Norco Judan. The Gates belt drive system did not work with the Alfine hub. No amount of tweaking could get proper alignment from front chainring to rear cog and the belt just wouldn't stay on after many tries. So... I went to chain... New X9 crankset 170mm plus a 30-tooth mrp bling ring. It works like a charm!!!
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    For shifter options there is also Zerodebikes - , SRAlfine shifter

    Wish I knew about them before buying a grip then a trigger and being disappointed with both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OFFcourse View Post
    For shifter options there is also Zerodebikes - , SRAlfine shifter

    Wish I knew about them before buying a grip then a trigger and being disappointed with both.
    That's what I'm using - photos a couple of posts up ^^

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    [URL=http://s70.photobucket.com/user/2088bob/media/newbikes010.jpg.html][/URL]bob/newbikes008.jpg" width="549">


    this is my other IGH bike this is my in town cruiser and shopping bike I use it to pull one of my many trailers sturmey 3 speed coaster but use the v brake to help when trailer load is heavy


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    My Kona Unit with Alfine s700:
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    Nice! I've got a '13 Kona Unit too. How does it ride compared to standard? I was considering going Alfine but not sure how all that weight on the rear would feel.

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    Well, you can feel the added weight in the back, but the lighter rim with tubeless tyre definetely makes feel the bike more responsive.
    When you try to go uphill, or downhill or whatever, the single speed has no match to the 11 speed hub.

    At the moment, I am only concerned it seems there is some oil leaking, I am going to make the hub oil service and see how much is still inside, before I worry too much...

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    Internal Hub MTBs, post yours here!

    My Carver 420Ti c-w Marzoch Corsa Superlegarra (don't you just love the Italians) fork; Truvativ carbon cranks & seat post; XT brakes.

    Took awhile to get used to the tall BB and short chain stays, but it's a fun bike!


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    Quick Question.

    Hey all,

    I don't have an IGH bike yet, but am almost certain that my next rig will have one. I am thinking of going with an Alfine 8. I have never had a hub with a threaded axle before; Can those of you who have been using an Alfine long term (specifically in a steel frame with vertical dropouts) chime in as to whether or not the axle causes any damage to the dropouts? Superficial or otherwise?

    Thanks a bunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJS95 View Post
    Hey all,

    I don't have an IGH bike yet, but am almost certain that my next rig will have one. I am thinking of going with an Alfine 8. I have never had a hub with a threaded axle before; Can those of you who have been using an Alfine long term (specifically in a steel frame with vertical dropouts) chime in as to whether or not the axle causes any damage to the dropouts? Superficial or otherwise?

    Thanks a bunch.
    Yup. At the very least, it will strip the paint at the points where the nuts contact the frame. Typically that's the end of it and it's not really compromising the frame even over a very long time period.

    The exception to this is you have a frame where the manufacturer made a mistake, e.g. the Kona Bike had horizontal fork ends, but the fork ends were not steel plated or steel reinforced (i.e. steel plates bolted to an Aluminium frame, as they did on the Kona Major One). As such the bolts would bite in to the aluminium, which was too soft, and would just strip the frame down repeatedly when you pedaled hard, and the hub would move forward. That would eventually destroy the dropout over a very long period of time. That kind of mistake is pretty rare though.

    EDIT: Now that Surly has the Hurdy Gurdy (new for 2014), if this was happening to you on horizontal dropouts you could use a Hurdy Gurdy to hold it in place and not worry about it anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hunter006 View Post
    Yup. At the very least, it will strip the paint at the points where the nuts contact the frame. Typically that's the end of it and it's not really compromising the frame even over a very long time period.

    The exception to this is you have a frame where the manufacturer made a mistake, e.g. the Kona Bike had horizontal fork ends, but the fork ends were not steel plated or steel reinforced (i.e. steel plates bolted to an Aluminium frame, as they did on the Kona Major One). As such the bolts would bite in to the aluminium, which was too soft, and would just strip the frame down repeatedly when you pedaled hard, and the hub would move forward. That would eventually destroy the dropout over a very long period of time. That kind of mistake is pretty rare though.

    EDIT: Now that Surly has the Hurdy Gurdy (new for 2014), if this was happening to you on horizontal dropouts you could use a Hurdy Gurdy to hold it in place and not worry about it anymore.
    Thanks very much, I appreciate the response. Any input as to whether the threads of the axle itself (rather than the axle nuts) dig into the dropouts at all? This again would be for a steel frame with vertical dropouts.

    Thanks.

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    No, they don't. My Alfine's been on a Salsa El Mar since '09. Frame's fine, no damage from the hub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dru View Post
    No, they don't. My Alfine's been on a Salsa El Mar since '09. Frame's fine, no damage from the hub.

    Drew
    Awesome. Thanks Drew.

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    I was lucky enough to have this given to me today.



    It all has about 14k commuting km on it, so the Rohloff has just broken in! It's bloody heavy too. The frame has a few marks in the surface coat but otherwise looks good. The forks seem okay. The wheels need looking at with a few split nipples. If I can fit a 700C/29" rear wheel in there I'll rebuild the Rohloff wheel in that size and turn it into a commuter.

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    Rohloff Road Bike Update

    Hey, sorry for the delayed response. I got to be honest I haven't put much more work into it since I last posted here and am actually going to sell the bike. You can see some picts of the finished product, or at least as far as I have finished it here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EGF168 View Post
    First ride was Sunday, with its extras like a Surly Singleator chain tensioner, Race Face bash guard which I probably didnít need and Sram SS chain which again I probably didnít need it weights quite a bit more than the old XT/XTR setup but so long as it stays as good as the first ride I wouldnít change it for anything. The bike feels a bit weird at the moment because Iíve now got a strong, solid feeling rear rim and a front rim best described as flimsy that you can physically see flexing on tight corners but Iíll have that fixed soon and Iíll have some lighter bits to compensate for the weight increase. Anyway, as others have said the shift is so slick you hardly notice it, all the gears feel super smooth, the hub is completely silent which I love, to my surprise it spins freely after hardly any use, it always shifts when pedalling although it does take a little longer if your really pedalling hard, the shifter works in reverse of a normal derailleur type shifter in that you release the smaller lever get into easier gears etc which I think I will be able to get used to, the highest gear is just about perfect for the fast XC riding in my area but I havenít had a chance to take it to more challenging terrain to try out the lower gears yet. Iím running 18T rear cog and 32T front and I also put a set of Hutchinson Toro 1.85 & 2.15 tires on to improve mud performance over the Michelin dry weather tires previously on there.











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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew Diller View Post
    I finished my 3rd DIY bike frame. Some custom Lefty clamps from MendonCycleSmith and an old clamp style Lefty give a 17.5mm *reverse* Pugsley style axle offset. It's like the Pug's rear end, just the other way. It gives enough clearance to stuff a fat tire on the front.

    I like the Alfine so far. The clutch feeling is a little weird, but not bad weird.



    Thats sick!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
    Thats sick!!
    Hey, thanks bud. Frame is still fine. Wait'll you see my next frame... it's going to make this thing look pedestrian.
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    Rohloff

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    Haro Sonix with Alfine 8

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    Here is my recently completed project:

    Fooly's Major Glory - 650b Titanium Soft Tail, Rohloff/Gates belt drive.

    You can read the full story in the frame building forums, or click on the link below.
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    What is it with Americans and their creepy flag worship?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos Fandango View Post
    What is it with Americans and their creepy flag worship?
    That rear wheel definitely falls under the "not for everybody" catagory

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
    That rear wheel definitely falls under the "not for everybody" catagory
    Not for me, that's for sure, but each to their own, I suppose.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JediSith View Post
    The wheel graphics seem a bit distracting. I like US flags. I do not like the graphic. It looks childish.
    Guilty as charged

    And why not, we are only as old as we think we are.

    Mountain biking is my hobby as well as my passion. It is also my creative outlet. This bike is a product of my own design. A bike that could not or should not be built. With all the blood, sweat and tears that goes along with a project like this. If I should build such a bike, why not make it wacky and outlandish as to be noticed unique among all the bikes out there? For if you see this bike on the trails or at the races, you will take note, and if you see me again you will definitely remember.

    Fooly

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    Kona Bass Rohloff

    Hi guys!

    Here's a picture of my rig from last summer in the Finnish wilderness. It's a Kona Bass frame with Rohloff, Magura Thor front and Mavic XM819 UST's. I even got its weight to stay quite low at about 28,5 lbs. It works like a charm as my all-rounder!
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    Awesome thread...
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    Voodoo Bokor frame with sliding dropouts, manitou r7 pro forks, sturmey archer srk3 3 speed disc hub, SLX brakes with 180mm rotors, no problems yet!

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    Here's my titanium drop-bar (soon) 29erÖ rollin with a Rohloff.

    Built this up at UBI a couple years ago. Still rides great.

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    2010 Haro Sonix Frame. This is MK 2 for me.
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    New bike on the way, pics to follow.

    Salsa Ti Fargo frame
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    Raceface crankset
    Chris King headset
    White Bro's Rock Solid carbon fork
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    700x40c Vee Rubber XCX setup tubeless (for gravel)
    or
    29x2.0 Geax Saguaros tubeless (for this one race that starts in Canada)
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    Inbred Urban Mtb.

    Here we have a Rohloff equipped urban mtb build almost entirely from craigslist and the parts bin.

    I ran this Rohloff on my hardtail for a few years and got tired of the weight of the thing. So -- I tracked down one of these On One Inbred frames with singlespeed track ends and a chainstay brake mount.
    The Jandd Expedition rack is absurdly heavy as is the sprung saddle. These are some of the things I'll have to rethink.

    For now -- here it is. I'm running a single Surly Tugnut on the drive side which seems to be working just fine. I'm quite happy about that because I don't think I can fit one more doo-dad on the non-drive side.

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    Will the Nexus 3 last?

    Only time will tell, only 50 miles trail on it.
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    My Dialled Alpine with a Nuvinci

    I am new to posting on this site , I have a Dialled Alpine with a Nuvinci hub ,I ride this to work . I have tinkered with the components and have had many different components on the bike . Hated chain tensioners and bottom eccentric brackets seemed a half measure . I altered the frame myself made my own dropouts and welded them on .Mush happier with this set up .The main gripe I have is with Nuvinci but I am working on that ,I know I will not be happy until I get a Rohloff

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    My custom Kocmo

    I have this built for two years now , it's the third frame for the Rohloff in it's tenth year.

    Love the belt ; silent , light and clean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dami View Post
    It's a Kona Bass frame with Rohloff!

    With the concentric pivot bearings about the BB, I always thought this frame was a good candidate for an IGH!

    Good call!!! Looks like a fun bike!

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    Laced my 10 year old Speedhub for my Fatty , and got a new one for my MTB !!!

    Makes for a very nice setup for deep snow conditions!
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    Here's mine, feast your eyes

    Oh yeah, that's right, it doesn't work any more. Thanks Shimano!

    On the plus side, a spangly new Rohloff Speedhub is on it's way from Germany. Perhaps I should have waited before posting but I'm simply too emotional about the demise of my Alfine 11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos Fandango View Post
    Oh yeah, that's right, it doesn't work any more. Thanks Shimano!

    I'm simply too emotional about the demise of my Alfine 11.

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    Details of it's demise? Brutal abuse? JRA? Looks good except for the shift mech in the last pic.
    This isn't a "you're doing it wrong" topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wadester View Post
    Details of it's demise? Brutal abuse? JRA? Looks good except for the shift mech in the last pic.
    I don't think I abused it other than transgressing Shimano's pathetically high minimum gear ratio. I'm not generating lots of torque or crashing the gears. The rest I have described in my post, a work in progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wadester View Post
    Details of it's demise? Brutal abuse? JRA? Looks good except for the shift mech in the last pic.
    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos Fandango View Post
    I don't think I abused it other than transgressing Shimano's pathetically high minimum gear ratio. I'm not generating lots of torque or crashing the gears. The rest I have described in my post, a work in progress.
    Thanks for the links to the A-11 thread.

    I'm running a Sturmey Archer S3X 3 spd fixed gear hub. It failed on me once, because the "shift key" was gnawed away. On that hub, the key moves along the axle to engage different gear sets - and apparently the engagement teeth on the inside of the sun gears nibbled away at the key during shifts until it was gone. S-A cheerfully sent me a whole new set of guts which has operated well for about the same amount of use as the original. Time for a service/inspection?

    I note that I do "unload" the hub before shifting, but with a fixed gear the load can come from accel or decel - and the parts are always turning.
    This isn't a "you're doing it wrong" topic.

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    Singular Hummingbird Rohloff 96

    lousy indoor pic,
    but its a start for me as a "never taking a picture of anything" person

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    singular hummingbird, rohloff knawing on a monkey bone, gd turbo lp, bb7, sks fenders (nothing cool about a muddy back after every ride), yada yada

    this is my favorite bike - lot of muddy riding (min. 180 km every week) and almost no service time for the drivetrain and anything else (less than my last road bike)

    so i guess i have to take the camera with me next time to do it some justice

    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos Fandango View Post
    Oh yeah, that's right, it doesn't work any more. Thanks Shimano!

    On the plus side, a spangly new Rohloff Speedhub is on it's way from Germany. Perhaps I should have waited before posting but I'm simply too emotional about the demise of my Alfine 11.

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    The worst thing is that you can not replace only the broken part! This is the major drawback for the shimano IGHs.

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    I usually ride SS, but I got fed up of long rides to more distant trails so I built up this to be competent on the road, and added gears because doing 30 - 40 miles of road work on a mtb SS ratio plain sucks.






    The tyres are Big Apples slicks, a compromise for the road miles, but they work pretty well off the road except in slick conditions. Who would have thought it? Slicks ain't good for slick...

    Or, in other words, riding offroad just got more "interesting".





    Overall I'm happy with it. It's taking me to trails that are in that too close to be bothered putting it in the car category, and best of all I don't have to return to a car, I can come out on the road elsewhere.

    Gears are Alfine 8, dead reliable. I wouldn't touch an Alfine 11, and the pics in the previous posts above confirm that to me. (Don't ignore input ratio recommendations folks!)
    As little bike as possible, as silent as possible.
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    Looks great that Brian. Glad you have found a use for the frame.

    Now I have to admit that I didn't even know this forum existed on here! But I am another Alfine 8 fan, so here are my two.

    First up the Moonie. Changed from the dangly gears about 18 months ago and no regrets. These things should run hub gears.





    And next the Genesis Fortitude adventure. They sold this bike complete with the Alfine 11 but I bought this one as a frameset and built it with an 8. I use it as an NCN bike.


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    ^ Cool bikes! A fellow "I don't have time to talk to you about rolling resistance, I need traction" fatty rider, I see.
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    Karate Monkey bike packing rig, just returned from a long weekend away in the Sarawak highlands, mostly logging trails and some shared use single track, but thoroughly deserted at this time of year.

    This is my multi day bike and also works pretty well as a hard tail. This set up (together with a 14 Liter hydration) pack will cart enough for a long weekend, in the tropics where no sleeping bag / cold weather gear is needed. I use a sweet roll and seat bag when needed

    I have a few tweaks to make to the cockpit, thud buster and new saddle and also probably going to ditch the Ergon touring grips and experiment with different bars but otherwise it's pretty much spot on

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    Good job! 2006 Yeti 575

    2006 Yeti 575 w/ RS Revs, ZTR355 rims, SLX brakes and a Gravity Dropper post.

    XT Cranks w/ Works Components NW 34t chainring
    Alfine 8 with a 20t sprocket
    On-One Doofer tensioner (was running a jury rigged rear mech)



    Love this set up, used to alternate my slidey dropout Kona Explosif between SS and the Alfine, but it became a permanent SS and with a wornout drivetrain on my Yeti and the Alfine lying in the parts box, I couldn't resist trying it.

    Works fantastic, the result is a nice quiet bike with great chainring clearance, low maintenance and as a bonus, the solid axle Alfine has stiffened up the carbon rear end a treat.

    And when I say low maintenance, my chain has been on there for perhaps three years, its so sloppy the 1% chain wear checker waggles back and forth 2mm and it just keeps on going, the drivetrain has had one gear cable change and after a particularly disgusting gritty ride in the UK I had to clean up the sticky shifter ring on the hub, about 5 minutes in all!


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    Home-made belt drive conversion. Almost six months on it so far, and no problems to report. Loving it. Can't see ever going back to external gears, or a chain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firedfromthecircus View Post
    Looks great that Brian. Glad you have found a use for the frame.

    Now I have to admit that I didn't even know this forum existed on here! But I am another Alfine 8 fan, so here are my two.

    First up the Moonie. Changed from the dangly gears about 18 months ago and no regrets. These things should run hub gears.





    And next the Genesis Fortitude adventure. They sold this bike complete with the Alfine 11 but I bought this one as a frameset and built it with an 8. I use it as an NCN bike.

    Can you tell me what chainring/cog combo you're running on your Moonie? Thanks!

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    Redline Monocog 29er Released

    This bike was stolen from me in 2007 after I had it for about 2 months. A couple weeks ago, a guy told me he bought it from Craigslist for $100. He said he wanted to just give it to me, but I paid him what he paid and got my bike back. He found my info by searching for "Nexus hub" and "Redline Monocog" he said. It seems plausible. Then he found me on a local mountain bike forum.

    I just added the drop bars the other day and the Jtek shifter, but I had installed the 8-speed Nexus back in 2007.
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    I got to ride it about 30 miles yesterday and really like the bars. I got used to the shifting right away. I have a couple other bikes with bar-end shifters that use derailleurs so I thought it would be weird to have the backward action of the Nexus.

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    Internal Hub MTBs, post yours here!-image.jpegInternal Hub MTBs, post yours here!-image.jpgInternal Hub MTBs, post yours here!-image.jpegThis is my Sturmey Archer C-50 5-speed on a BD Deadeye Monster. I am using a homemade 34t sprocket with a Luna 30t chainwheel. It has about 350 miles and is breaking in nicely. Very quiet with zero freewheel clicking.

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    Upgraded my Fatbike with my third Rohloff


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    I've been after a Rohloff for over 10 years now and as my singlespeed was getting too much for longer trips, I finally got one. Also got Matt at Talbot Frameworks to add the cable guides and sort out a fancy new paint job.

    It's so nice being able to cruise up hills now!


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    My three Rolhoff'ed bikes
    From skinny to Fat

    Missing in the photo , my Nexus red band commuter
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ID:	1088042This is my Sturmey Archer C-50 5-speed on a BD Deadeye Monster. I am using a homemade 34t sprocket with a Luna 30t chainwheel. It has about 350 miles and is breaking in nicely. Very quiet with zero freewheel clicking.
    Is that an electric motor I see on the front of that BB housing?

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    My custom Stanton

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    Quote Originally Posted by saccades View Post
    Frame: Prototype On-One Inbred 456EBB (there is another one out there somewhere)
    Forks: Pace RC-41F









    Bit of a rescue job as i had gotten into this condition:

    7 and a half years later and I've finally thought I'd better replace the hub (pitted cup and cones) and give the bike a bit of an update as the de-bonded the fork lowers from the legs doing a way too steep tranny.



    Now has a set of 15mm RS XX Revs and WTB i25KOM rims.

    Still on the same brakes, cranks (LX Hollowtec 1) and other finishing kit (the pedals need to be swapped out but appear to be welded on now).

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    Quote Originally Posted by _CJ View Post
    Is that an electric motor I see on the front of that BB housing?
    Looks like a Bafang mid-drive unit. From everything I've read, they're fairly dependable, as long as you don't red-line the unit all the time.

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    My Salsa El Mariachi Ti in its (almost) final 2017 Tour Divide Configuration.

    The biggest change from last year (when I scratched) has been the Rohloff Speedhub. I had some serious mechanical problems on the race and decided to trade some extra weight for reliability. Although nervous about the decision I have not regretted it. I feared the extra drag that had been reported by many riders but, after close to a thousand miles of riding,it just doesn't seem to be a problem.

    I also replaced the Niner Carbon Fork with a Salsa Cutthroat fork. It brought the front end up about an inch but the bike seems to ride better like this. First big ride with the Cuthtroat is today and I'll let you know what I think.

    The Niner fork was fantastic, by the way, but I want to carry my sleeping bag and my tent (a Tarpent Rainbow) on the fork freeing up my frame bag for a water bladder (lack of water was a big problem for me). The Cutthroat has mounting points for cages; the Niner would have required pipe clamps and duct tape and other things I really don't want to do to a carbon fiber fork.

    I also ditched the SP PD 8 generator hub and wheel. I really didn't need it on the race as I was never that far out of range of batteries. I carry a portable charger for my Niterider Lumina 750 (that will charge it twice) if I'm away from a socket and I kept my iPhone off most of the time. My GPS uses (eTrex 30) uses AA batteries so this is not an issue.

    I've switched to an Easton Haven Front Wheel with a 15mm Thru-axle (not on the bike yet, saving it for the race).

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    Quote Originally Posted by _CJ View Post
    Is that an electric motor I see on the front of that BB housing?
    Yes, CA class 1 legal and welcome all over the Santa Monica mountains. As far as reliability goes, time will tell, I have between 600 and 700 miles on this one and about another 400 or so on a different one. I did have a controller fail early on, but it was replaced under warranty by the vendor, Luna Cycle.

    Top speed under power is 20mph and range under power is about 35 miles in the mountains. My usual loop from the valley to the ocean overlook is 18 miles and I've never come close to using 1/2 my battery.

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