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    paragon make them too, but the issue you have is to find ones that are compatible with your frame. If the sliders aren't made by Kona, likely they are paragon. Look up paragon machine works, and ask them if they know if they will fit, or ask Kona.

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    Thanks Rich and Finch. I'll look into both those options and see what I can find.

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    Hey Climbercraig66, where did you get those 90deg noodles coming out of the external gear box? are those just your basic noodles or did you need something specific.

    I want to do the same to my setup.

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    Yep, just your standard V-brake noodles. I learned that trick from seeing it on someone elses ride here on the board.

    I think that is the best position for the cable box, and the noodles sure help to get rid of that 90 degree turn. I'm not a big fan of the "under the chainstay" mounts because they seem more prone to damage and also would be constantly blasted with crap from the front wheel spray.

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    My 2nd hand 2008 Genesis iOiD:



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    Quote Originally Posted by Climbercraig66
    Yep, just your standard V-brake noodles. I learned that trick from seeing it on someone elses ride here on the board.
    I posted that trick 3 years ago.
    One thing worth mentioning , it's a good idea to add heat shrink tubing at the junction of the noodle and cable , it prevents elements to contaminate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fokof
    I posted that trick 3 years ago.
    One thing worth mentioning , it's a good idea to add heat shrink tubing at the junction of the noodle and cable , it prevents elements to contaminate.
    See photo

    probably would work well up on the shifter as well I imagine

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    Yep , I did that too.
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    Thanks for the idea Fokof.

    And about the sliding Rohloff drops; I just ended up ordering a MoneyBone from CycleMonkey. Couldn't find anything on Carver Bikes and Paragon was a bit too $$. Gotta ease up on the bike budget this month.

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    Finally got some trail testing done during a weekend charity ride. The new bike is awesome! One word to describe it? Trustworthy. It does exactly what I tell it, when I tell it. My old full suspension bike would squat while cornering, squish while climbing and squirm on uneven tracks, all of which led to a slightly unpredictable ride. But the new bike is rock solid. I also enjoyed the lighter weight and better geometry, and was able to kill every climb, some of which I used to have trouble with on my old bike, even when I was in better shape. But being my first hardtail, I still gotta remember to get my butt off the seat when things get choppy.

    I had some sense and mounted a new pair of SKS Beavertails before the ride. Got great coverage despite the fenders being largely unsupported. I like them because they don't look as goofy as clip-ons, but have just the right (for me) coverage and clearance for both commuting on the road during the week and doing backcountry rides on the weekends.

    Stiffer fork spring, Ergon Grips, and Monkey Bone are in the mail. Life is good.



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    Chumba HX2 29er 3 Speed

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    shimano inter 3 disc hub, DMR 20mm thru front, double butted spokes red alloy nipples to orange velocity blunts
    Red king head set
    Crank bros joplin post
    Shimano LX cranks salsa ring, custom polycarb bash
    Shimano deore mechanical brake levers
    avid BB7 7inch rotors
    Custom Shifter of my own design, CNC'd parts inline barrel adj and open cable from the stop to the hub
    tubeless with bontranger strips and stans
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    Nice
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    niner wfo9/rohloff from germany:












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    Thats a really nice Niner WFO build, congratulations.

    I am curious what size rear rotor and brake is that?

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    2011 Shimano Saint with 203/203 Trickstuff rotors (www.trickstuff.de <- small but tricky german bike parts/brakes company)

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    Quote Originally Posted by othu
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    Stunning!

    How are you finding the reverb?

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    Reverb works great but I'm not currently sure if I need a retractable seat post...
    I forget too often to push the trigger

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    Just finished my build of my Pugsley with an Alfine 11 (cross post Surly/Fatbike)..


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    Nichetastic

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    Rohloff Belt Drive
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    Yesterday's ride.......rest stop.

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    Mine's a road bike but it gets off-road from time to time:-

    11-01-27 Rohloff Enigma LHS by Chocolatebike1, on Flickr" width="549">

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    11-01-27 Rohloff Enigma bars by Chocolatebike1, on Flickr

    Spec is:-
    Enigma Excel frame
    Kona P2 fork
    Avid BB7s front and rear
    Rohloff with Hubub mounted shifter
    FSA shallow drop bars
    Shimano brake levers
    SON dyno front hub, Supernova E3 dyno and IQ Speed battery lights.
    Mavic A317 disc wheels
    Marathon Extreme 35mm tyres
    Topeak rear rack

    Since the photos were taken, the front rotor has been changed to a Hope to match the rear, the pump has been relocated to the RHS seat stay, the battery has gone onto the down-tube and the rear brake cable has been re-aligned.

    The bike was originally fitted with derailleurs (XT) but I converted it after it was stolen, advertised on Ebay and recovered. I'd already ordered its replacement (lighter, faster) so I decided to go for a heavy duty tourer.

    So far, so good. I've done just under 1000 miles on it since I got it back in mid Jan and the Rohloff is getting better. Still lots of whirring though..........

    I'm definitely going to fit a half-link EBB to get rid of the chain tensioner and I'm contemplating the Ezyshift electronic shifter, if only because I miss being able to change from the hoods and drops. A carbon fork is also a possibility since the P2 seems a little harsh.

    I've broken two spokes in the past week so I'll be speaking to the wheel builder about that tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chocolatebike
    Mine's a road bike but it gets off-road from time to time:-
    Good lordy! That thing needs more 'stuff' hung off it.

    -1 point for no bell
    -1 point for no rearview mirror
    -1 point for no bottle opener
    -1 point for only 2 bottle cages
    -1 point for no kick stand
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    Quote Originally Posted by finger51
    Good lordy! That thing needs more 'stuff' hung off it.

    -1 point for no bell
    -1 point for no rearview mirror
    -1 point for no bottle opener
    -1 point for only 2 bottle cages
    -1 point for no kick stand
    -1 point for no safety flag
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    It's a touring bike so it has "stuff", including a mount for an MF U-lock (paranoia after it was nicked) and I'm not a weight- weenie .
    When I get on the road bike, it seems to fly.
    Funny that

    Edit: bottle opener in my jersey pocket. Can't be too careful.

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    Nice bike....is it just me or is that a really slack head tube? Was that a standard option, and how does it feel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by finger51
    Good lordy! That thing needs more 'stuff' hung off it.

    -1 point for no bell
    -1 point for no rearview mirror
    -1 point for no bottle opener
    -1 point for only 2 bottle cages
    -1 point for no kick stand
    -1 point for no safety flag
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    Quote Originally Posted by finch2
    Nice bike....is it just me or is that a really slack head tube? Was that a standard option, and how does it feel?
    Thanks.
    I guess that it is slack but I have no problems with how the bike handles. I had it up to just under 50mph on one long downhill and it felt rock solid.
    It's a custom build of the the original Enigma Excel which was a touring bike. The current Excel is more of a racer.

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    Posted this on the 29er thread but I thought I'd post it here as well.



    My Redline Monocog with a Nuvinci N360 hub.. That thing is HEAVY! Pretty neat though, and a blast to ride.
    Swapped to crosstrail tires today for some paved trail riding with moms. Trying to motivate her back into riding again.
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    Here's my Redline Monocog 29er with Shimano Alfine 8 speed.

    I *just* got done building the wheel and getting everything working. First time I assembled a wheel, and my first time using an IGH. Very nice. Bit heavy, but it was a compromise I was willing to make.

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    Just got my Rohloff and other parts installed on a new frame and took it out on its first ride yesterday. Works great. First frame build I've done - went fairly smoothly except for some bearing service I had to get the LBS to do.

    SC Chameleon frame
    Shimano SLX cranks and BB
    Marzocchi Dropoff II fork
    Raceface stem and bars
    King headset
    Thomson post
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    Specialized Clutch tires
    Avid BB7s (165/203)
    46/16 gearing
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    Darris, how efficient this hub feels? The best thing would be to swap your bike numerous times with a dérailleur geared bike with some slicks on it and then try to tell the difference.

    smeagol, keep us updated how the hub copes with such high torque loads. Especially let us now if it explodes.

    Metalized, you've got some fantastic geometry on this bike. Seat shifted rearward, rear wheel weight bias, front fork fast forward, body not leaning much - for some loss of pedalling efficiency (irrelevant for non-professionals) the bike must feel very agile overall, fun to ride and safe on descents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeisbetter
    Darris, how efficient this hub feels? The best thing would be to swap your bike numerous times with a dérailleur geared bike with some slicks on it and then try to tell the difference.

    smeagol, keep us updated how the hub copes with such high torque loads. Especially let us now if it explodes.

    Metalized, you've got some fantastic geometry on this bike. Seat shifted rearward, rear wheel weight bias, front fork fast forward, body not leaning much - for some loss of pedalling efficiency (irrelevant for non-professionals) the bike must feel very agile overall, fun to ride and safe on descents.
    The bike is as you describe. Steers great and takes rough descents and jumps real well. No problems climbing steep hills with it either. Couldn't be happier with the build.

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    Felt Nine Solo Alfined

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    I need a more elegant solution for the cable mount (but I want the cable to be easily removable for ss interchange).



    The only reason I went for gears was that at weekends I do long rides on mixed conditions and I could not follow my co-riders on tarmac sections. Dérailleurs were out of the question.
    After 5-6 rides, I have to mention some things about alfine 8. The range is more than enough for me. Gaps between gears are a bit uneven but no problem. From 1 to 4 everything works almost perfect (mushy roller clutch); from 5 and up to 8 back pedaling is not smooth and feels like the gear is disengaging ( I'm not talking about the freewheel) and when you pedal again it can take a half stroke to engage. This has been mentioned to another thread Alfine making funny noises... is it wrecked?. This thing is annoying and dangerous when you have to overcome an obstacle and you have to backpedal. In this respect it is not for trail riding - at least for my riding capabilities - where I prefer my rigid ss. In conclusion it is great except for the issue above (does alfine 11 or Rohloff have the same issue? I suppose that Rohloff with clutch rings works like conventional freewheel).

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    That's weird. Obviously you've got your yellow marks lined up in 4th? I've had an Alfine 501 for 3 seasons now and it does none of the things you describe. I just serviced it after 2500 km or so, and I'd describe the hub as pretty much bullet proof. Ride your hub a bit more, maybe it's a break-in issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeisbetter
    Darris, how efficient this hub feels? The best thing would be to swap your bike numerous times with a dérailleur geared bike with some slicks on it and then try to tell the difference.
    My buddy is getting some crosstrail tires on his 26" mtb. I'll ride the two and compare them. As far as I can tell there's some "squishyness" to the pedaling, especially noticeable in the lower rage. I can feel the rollers giving resistance as I'm climbing. Higher gears not so much, but it's still there. I really need to put a smaller cog on the rear as the top end isn't as high as I'd like.
    All in all an interesting setup but I'd like to find an alfine-equipped bike to compare inner hubs as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dru
    That's weird. Obviously you've got your yellow marks lined up in 4th? I've had an Alfine 501 for 3 seasons now and it does none of the things you describe. I just serviced it after 2500 km or so, and I'd describe the hub as pretty much bullet proof. Ride your hub a bit more, maybe it's a break-in issue.

    Drew
    Yellow marks are perfectly lined up -I'm frequently checking- and gear changes are spot on. As for the mushy feeling it is not just a feeling; brake the rear wheel and try to pedal, you will see the sprocket moving a bit. This is the roller clutch giving the mushy effect.

    It is not something critical -or wrong- but it's there. Maybe this effect will be minimized with use through time.

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    **** derailers. Hopefully I will never own another one, ever.
    Of course my new BFF is chain slap. And in my case, I even get tensioner-slap. Once I get my rear triangle replaced (pesky frame cracks!), I'm going to do a lot better job wrapping it app up and I should be good to go.

    Oh and it's an Alfine-11 BTW, with 32/20 physical gears. Really great range. I just have to work at de-programming my brain for shifting with derailer-based timing. I'm always shifting too early with the Alfine.

    One more thing that may be of interest. Since I shortened my chain to what it is now (i think it's 96 links), I have not dropped my chain once. I have no guides on the cog, the tensioner does have guides on each side, and the only guide up front is the bash guard. The chain just doesn't go anywhere. I love it.





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    Rigid Rohloff Steel 29er

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    This is Preston he doesnt bite,,,,, often

    this is One of my Whyte Preston's he has been run as a single speed and in the winter with an alfine 8 speed,,
    despite the looks the old skool bb mounted sunn chain tensioner has been on there for 10 years and has done a number of endurance races and has been 100% reliable

    It has a 24" front wheel and 26" at the back,, i did this as i felt there wasnt enough weight on the front end,, the 24" wheel certainly seems to improve the turn in on the singletrack
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    My new Marin Mount Vision with Alfine 11. Weight is below 14kg, which is quite an achievement given heavy frame (almost 3kg) and fork (130mm 2005 Marzocchi All Mountain 1, 2.2kg). Bike was build entirely by me except wheels - i asked professional wheelbuilder to do this. Total cost of the project was app. 2400 USD. Everything works and i like it :-)


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    Better photo and wrote down full spec.



    Frame: 2008 Marin Mount Vision S in tangerine with DT Swiss M210 shock

    Fork: 2005 Marzocchi All Mountain 1 110-130mm

    Front wheel: Hope XC hub, Sapim Race spokes, Dartmoor alu nipples, Alexrims XED44 rim, Maxxis lightweight inner tube, Nokian NBX 2.3 tyre, Dartmoor skewer

    Rear wheel: Alfine 11 hub with 20t sprocket, Sapim Race spokes, Dartmoor alu nipples, Alexrims XD-Lite rim, Maxxis lightweight inner tube, Nokian NBX Lite 2.2 tyre, Shimano Centerlock Adapter

    Crankset: Ritchey WCS cranks, BBG bashguard, FSA single speed 32t chainring, MOWA alu bolts, Shimano Deore XT bottom bracket

    Under my ass: Specialized Pro 2 seatpost, WTB Speed-V seat, Tune Wurger clamp

    Brakes: Magura Marta

    Cockpit: CB Iodine C ahead set, Thomson Elite 70mm stem, Merek 650mm carbon handlebar, CB Iodine grips, Alfine 11 shifter with Jagwire Ripcord cables

    Pedals: Shimano PD-M520

    Tensioner: no name grabbed from my LBS :-)

    Total weight: ca. 14kg
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    Here's mine. Revitalized junk specialized hard rock. I built the wheel the other day and I just finished fine tuning everything. Can't wait to ride it tonight!

    I love this IGH stuff. Mine's an alfine 8. After seeing how damned quiet this bike is, I noticed all the other squeeks and smacks and I nailed them all today (I think). Now its deadly AND silent. Love it!
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    Nice job
    What gear ratios you running ?

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    My custom built carbon trail bike. It was a long time coming but well worth the wait. With a slack head angle, short chain stay and low bottom bracket, she is a super fun bike for throwing around the local trails.
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    From the other side.
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    Pipe, that looks interesting. What do you use for your rear hub,and have you had any caliper strike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wombat View Post
    Pipe, that looks interesting. What do you use for your rear hub,and have you had any caliper strike?

    Tim
    Rear hub is custom built using a carbon tube to space out the aluminium flanges. There is no freewheel in the hub so the secondary chain is always turning. A freewheel might be nice to have to cut down on drag and noise, but this way it is lighter and drag and noise seem negligible.

    I've only had it running for a couple of weeks but no issues so far with the caliper position. My friend Richie who designed the bike has been using his for over a year without issue. If it becomes a problem it is a relatively simple task to mount it up top. But it would not look as tidy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LukeSPOOK View Post
    Nice job
    What gear ratios you running ?
    32/22. By chance its the perfect ratio for no tensioner. The 22 isn't even the one I ordered! LOL. Turns out that not only is it better on the chainline, but I like the gearing better as well.

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    Whoohooo. Now it's either singlespeed or internal gears. After 2 rides I started selling the external gear stuff. Now a while later I still don't regret it.

    1. Alfine 8-speed


    2. Sachs Torpedo 3-speed


    My other bikes don't belong here.

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    Some really nice bikes in this thread, hope to join you guys soon!

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