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sounds good. I'll be on the look out.
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The new Full Adjust Seatpost will be presented here on MTBR before anywhere else. If all goes as planned, we'll have test riders report in, give a broad outline of the product and give the new product name and website.

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I'm a newb and have been in the market for a dropper seatpost and I have a beginner's question. What is the purpose of having a super-long drop? If I understand things correctly, about the maxium drop my bike could handle is 5-in./125 mm. Kind Shock has a 6" model, but if I put that on my bike the seat would be too high at maximum extention. I've seen the RASE and would consider this new one, but I don't understand how more drop could be of any use?
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I'm a newb and have been in the market for a dropper seatpost and I have a beginner's question. What is the purpose of having a super-long drop? If I understand things correctly, about the maxium drop my bike could handle is 5-in./125 mm. Kind Shock has a 6" model, but if I put that on my bike the seat would be too high at maximum extention. I've seen the RASE and would consider this new one, but I don't understand how more drop could be of any use?
Many seatposts have a minimum amount of exposed seatpost needed for a given amount of drop- so most of the time you'll always have 3 inches exposed.

You'll have to determine you seatpost diameter and then look at the various options out there to see what max drop you can get with only a 5 inch exposed seatpost.

The RASE looks really good because it fits a 27.2mm seatpost and offers max drop. There aren't currently many options for those of us with 27.2mm seatposts.

The RASE is also mechanical (springs) as opposed to hydraulic (air or oil). KindShocks just came out with a hydraulic 27.2mm with an oil reservoir.

For me personally, since I have a 27.2 mm. I've only got a few options:

Gravity Dropper- only offers 3" of drop for the exposed 6.5" of seatpost I run.
RASE- Gives me the full 6.5" of drop (maybe a little less because the sock will bunch up).
KindShocks Super Natural 272- offers 4" of drop. From the threads I have seen as of late KS is having customer service issues. This is also a new system, it is hard to find, and people don't have a lot of experience with it. It is also hard to tell how much exposed seat post is needed for the 4".

For me the RASE seems like the clear winner and since Austin (the designer) is working on a new build that should be ready in the next couple of months- I'm just going to wait.

If you have a larger diameter seatpost you have way more options. The Specialized Command Post is supposed to be good. Giant just came out with a new one. Crank Bros' one has always had horrible reliability issues but rumor is that they are getting better. and there are the options I listed above that are available in larger sizes stock or with a shim.
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Many seatposts have a minimum amount of exposed seatpost needed for a given amount of drop- so most of the time you'll always have 3 inches exposed.

You'll have to determine you seatpost diameter and then look at the various options out there to see what max drop you can get with only a 5 inch exposed seatpost.

The RASE looks really good because it fits a 27.2mm seatpost and offers max drop. There aren't currently many options for those of us with 27.2mm seatposts.

The RASE is also mechanical (springs) as opposed to hydraulic (air or oil). KindShocks just came out with a hydraulic 27.2mm with an oil reservoir.

For me personally, since I have a 27.2 mm. I've only got a few options:

Gravity Dropper- only offers 3" of drop for the exposed 6.5" of seatpost I run.
RASE- Gives me the full 6.5" of drop (maybe a little less because the sock will bunch up).
KindShocks Super Natural 272- offers 4" of drop. From the threads I have seen as of late KS is having customer service issues. This is also a new system, it is hard to find, and people don't have a lot of experience with it. It is also hard to tell how much exposed seat post is needed for the 4".

For me the RASE seems like the clear winner and since Austin (the designer) is working on a new build that should be ready in the next couple of months- I'm just going to wait.

If you have a larger diameter seatpost you have way more options. The Specialized Command Post is supposed to be good. Giant just came out with a new one. Crank Bros' one has always had horrible reliability issues but rumor is that they are getting better. and there are the options I listed above that are available in larger sizes stock or with a shim.
Thanks for the info. I need a 30.9 post, so there are more options. I probably would have already bought the Specialized Command Post Blacklite, but they are out of stock everywhere. (Specialized is putting them on new bikes, so they are in very short supply.) I like the idea of a mechanical post since all the hydraulic ones seem to have at least some problems--with the RockShox Reverb being the worst. I'll see if I can wait until the new post here comes out and compare.

Again, thanks for the help.
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Michaelscott makes some good points that there are a number of great features to the RASE post. Like the fact that it is available in a 27.7 mm and is extremely dirtproof and reliable even without using the cover. I could never get the RASE post to not work solidly no matter how much mud was put on it, the spring has also been always reliable.

An important point too is that the RASE post, and the new model, have a maximum range of over 9 inches, much like a standard seatpost. Yet, the post is able to be pre-set to stop at any preferred height, be it 6 inches, 7.5 inches or wherever, in half inch increments. This system is able to fully lower to 2 inches from seat rails to the frame no matter how high you decide to set the max height at, unlike all the other systems that loose their full lowering capacity when the max height is set.

With three different large size bikes, I use between 8 and 9 inches of height adjust for a full range of control and efficiency. The new design will also have a highly reliable, dampened air spring system.

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An important point too is that the RASE post, and the new model, have a maximum range of over 9 inches, much like a standard seatpost. Yet, the post is able to be pre-set to stop at any preferred height, be it 6 inches, 7.5 inches or wherever, in half inch increments. This system is able to fully lower to 2 inches from seat rails to the frame no matter how high you decide to set the max height at, unlike all the other systems that loose their full lowering capacity when the max height is set.
Ahh. I didn't realize that the RASE could only lower to 2" above the seatpost. with 6.5" inches of exposed seatpost on my current ride- it still gives me 4.5" of adjustment, way more than any other seatpost- especially with 27.2mm.

Porschefan- I'm wonder how tall you are and what size frame your bike is. Seems like you don't really have a lot of exposed seatpost to play with. You'll only get 3" with the RASE (which will be plenty) but you might find that the other brands of posts aren't going to be able to work with you.

The only thing I'm worried about with the RASE is the rattle and side to side play that other mtbr users have talked about. I'm not so concerned about the side to side but I think the rattle would drive me bonkers. Very eager to try out Austin's new product.
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New post - is it 27.2mm with more than 4inches?

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The new Full Adjust Seatpost will be presented here on MTBR before anywhere else. If all goes as planned, we'll have test riders report in, give a broad outline of the product and give the new product name and website.

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Hi Austin,

Sorry to bother you with more questions about the unreleased product but I am just wondering if the new Full Adjust Seatpost will be available in a 27.2mm diameter with more than 4 inches of travel? Or should I pursue other options?

Just trying to find a dropper post that is 27.2mm and has more than 4 inches of drop (aside obviously from RASE).

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The new Full Adjust Seatpost will be presented here on MTBR before anywhere else. If all goes as planned, we'll have test riders report in, give a broad outline of the product and give the new product name and website.

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Hi Austin,

Sorry to bother you with more questions about the unreleased product but I am just wondering if the new Full Adjust Seatpost will be available in a 27.2mm diameter with more than 4 inches of travel? Or should I pursue other options?

Just trying to find a dropper post that is 27.2mm and has more than 4 inches of drop (aside obviously from RASE).

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Hello Sols,

Good question, I would have liked to accommodate the any people with 27.2 frames.

Yet,the new Full Range seatpost is intended to be lighter and extra strong. I could not achieve these goals with a 27.2 configuration, so the new post will start at 30.9 mm and go up to 34.9 mm.

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I have a rase seatpost and can't imagine riding a post again without this range of travel.
I have a 27.2 seatpost size.
Are these going to be continued to be made?

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Hello Greg,

I agree, a full span of height adjustability defines an MTB seatpost.

RASE will probably continue to make the 27.2 mm seatpost.

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Hello Greg,

I agree, a full span of height adjustability defines an MTB seatpost.

RASE will probably continue to make the 27.2 mm seatpost.

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...@RASE so do you have a date as to when your seatpost will be out. i would like to buy one ;-)...ralph
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Hello 1962,

Development is moving along. I'd like it to be out by spring, we'll see.
The new seatpost design probably won't be a RASE product, but a new name.

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Austin,

Any word on the new post? 6 inch KS is a worthless piece and I am looking for a new post. I need about 8 inches for my Canfield One. Is there any kind of preorder list available?
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I think you'll be waiting some time.

Saw this link when trying to get an update....

Austin Walsh of RACE Components LLC, (bicycle) at gobignetwork.com

He did have a 3 page website up but I can't find it now.

10" post. New clap (Thompson like) etc.,

...was originally supposed to be out this spring...website said coming in Summer/Fall....didn't say which year....I wouldn't hold out much hope for this summer/fall.

I think I'm giving up and going with a GD.
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