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    dirt demo report, a Titanium Niner!

    Snapped a few pics today at the dirt demo, and have a few ride reports. Seemingly the most interesting is that one of Niner's "suprises" for interbike was hanging at the Sram tent right before closing time.

    Up close, it was definately Niner and definately Titanium. Name was TSI or TMI. Something like that. Closer pics and details he said would be revealed tomorrow.
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    Sweet. I'll take one each SS and Gears please. It looks like the downtube graphics are just a temporary wrap thing, but a white panel paintjob like that would look pretty cool

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    mmmm geared titanium niner........

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    Sweet...SOLD !

    I was saving pennies for a Jet9 to go with my Air and Sir. Now this. Sh!t!!! I'm going to have to get a second job or cash in my 401k or something.

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    I must say that looks hot...guessing it will be a pretty penny...figure a Scandium one9 is $799........
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    oh mama!

    and even if it's way more than $799 it will be waay less than custom, and i'm a perfect fit on my med sir 9...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcd
    oh mama!

    and even if it's way more than $799 it will be waay less than custom, and i'm a perfect fit on my med sir 9...
    I agree with that (but then for the XL size)!!

    Of course people start shouting they want a ti one 9 (me!!) but this is a good starter

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    That's got your name written all over it mcd!!!

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    Sorry, but I'd rather have a Moots and be poorer by $1500



















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    And that looks to me like an EBB shell.

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    Droool!

    man I want one!
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    Nice photo-shooting, you grabbed a unique one there

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcd
    oh mama!

    and even if it's way more than $799 it will be waay less than custom, and i'm a perfect fit on my med sir 9...

    maybe way less, but maybe not...A hand made Aluminum Hardtail 29er, built here in the US is about the same price as a one9...I said in another thread that I think Niner makes some gorgeous frames, but I think they are at a price point for something made here in the US, not overseas. Say it is $1200 or so...$1500 for a Moots tailored to you is just a few bucks away.

    Regardless, Niner makes some amazing stuff and I badly want a RIP9...
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    That's not a Ultimate repair stand......
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    that is sweet!
    i have an EMD. Love the thing.
    only thing I dont like about Niner's are the color choices/schemes....too generic.
    the Ti photo above has a classic looking decal, simple as it is it something like that could enhance the entire line aesthetically. fwiw

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    Quote Originally Posted by whattheheck
    that is sweet!
    i have an EMD. Love the thing.
    only thing I dont like about Niner's are the color choices/schemes....too generic.
    the Ti photo above has a classic looking decal, simple as it is it something like that could enhance the entire line aesthetically. fwiw

    yeah the classic panel look is very cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tozovr
    maybe way less, but maybe not...A hand made Aluminum Hardtail 29er, built here in the US is about the same price as a one9...I said in another thread that I think Niner makes some gorgeous frames, but I think they are at a price point for something made here in the US, not overseas. Say it is $1200 or so...$1500 for a Moots tailored to you is just a few bucks away.

    Regardless, Niner makes some amazing stuff and I badly want a RIP9...
    Ummmm........a Moots on the speedgoat.com site is almost $2,575!!! So you are off by a grand and change tozovr.

    However it would be interesting to see the Niner pricepoint compared to that of a custom built Quiring Ti frame. Scott had some crazy great Ti prices going (maybe he's adjusted them a bit, maybe not).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMcG
    Ummmm........a Moots on the speedgoat.com site is almost $2,575!!! So you are off by a grand and change tozovr.

    However it would be interesting to see the Niner pricepoint compared to that of a custom built Quiring Ti frame. Scott had some crazy great Ti prices going (maybe he's adjusted them a bit, maybe not).

    I was using the $1500 figure as posted by the fella above...I have no idea how much a Ti frame goes for LOL....The long and short of it is the Taiwanese Niners are expensive, but nice...I'd assume they won't be busting pricepoints with a Ti bike.
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    How much do you think a Ti. would weigh compared to the Scandium?
    The scandium is 3.1 on a medium..

    Man, I was all set on getting the Kermit Air 9... now, I'm doubting that cause of this thread!!
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    That's the very first Niner brand bike/frame that has looked good to me.


    My peakosity is curious'ed...or something like that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tozovr
    maybe way less, but maybe not...A hand made Aluminum Hardtail 29er, built here in the US is about the same price as a one9...I said in another thread that I think Niner makes some gorgeous frames, but I think they are at a price point for something made here in the US, not overseas. Say it is $1200 or so...$1500 for a Moots tailored to you is just a few bucks away.

    Regardless, Niner makes some amazing stuff and I badly want a RIP9...
    The manufacturing origin has some place in pricing, but oversea manu's are making some of the best frames out there. GIANT has the best frame making facility, technology and financial backing when it come to frame building. The fact that their labor is cheaper, does not mean they make a cheaper product or it's value is necessarily less. However, it would be nice if the reselling companies passed the saving on to the consumers. Rant over..

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    Niner please make me a Titanium RIP9. HT are no sensation Perhaps WOF9 Titanium version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by power-san
    How much do you think a Ti. would weigh compared to the Scandium?
    The scandium is 3.1 on a medium..

    Man, I was all set on getting the Kermit Air 9... now, I'm doubting that cause of this thread!!
    I would guess that a similar sized ti. frame would weigh 0.5-1 lb more than a Scandium frame. The ti. frame would (arguably maybe) ride nicer and last longer. Plus, it's ti., jeez.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1-bar
    The manufacturing origin has some place in pricing, but oversea manu's are making some of the best frames out there. GIANT has the best frame making facility, technology and financial backing when it come to frame building. The fact that their labor is cheaper, does not mean they make a cheaper product or it's value is necessarily less. However, it would be nice if the reselling companies passed the saving on to the consumers. Rant over..

    I will take one TMI and JET9 to go please...

    Do you mean Taiwanese frames are not cheap, but instead priced properly, thus American made frame are overpriced?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tozovr
    Do you mean Taiwanese frames are not cheap, but instead priced properly, thus American made frame are overpriced?
    I think his argument was a quality (quality control) argument and not a price argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMcG
    Ummmm........a Moots on the speedgoat.com site is almost $2,575!!! So you are off by a grand and change tozovr.

    However it would be interesting to see the Niner pricepoint compared to that of a custom built Quiring Ti frame. Scott had some crazy great Ti prices going (maybe he's adjusted them a bit, maybe not).
    Unless Quiring has changed suppliers he previously built with straight gauge Ti tubes (not the lightest). Ti is very hard on tooling (ie mandrels to butt the tubes) so you are paying partially for that on the higher end (Moots, IF, etc) bikes that cost in excess of $2000 for the frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MessagefromTate
    Unless Quiring has changed suppliers he previously built with straight gauge Ti tubes (not the lightest).
    I believe you're correct in stating that Scott builds straight-gauge Ti. Although straight-gauge may not be the lightest option, Scotty Q's work is a down-right bargain. My custom Quiring Ti with sliders weighs 1580g (3.48lb), so it's no boat-anchor regardless of the type of tubes employed.
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    Well I think I know what frame I'm getting after my collarbone gets fixed (surgery friday then 6-8 weeks! ugh!)! I hope they keep the panels. I'll take one just like that. Think i just found my new bike. :-) Maybe have someone weld in some S&S Couplers....
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    I've been waiting for a Ti Niner If it happens, top tube cable routing like the MCR please.

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    ... and for a name, how about E.M.W. 9? (empty my wallet)

    But seriously... I love Ti, god's gift to bike frames (and to ocean engineers like me). My skilz and commitment aren't worthy of a Ti frame, but I have no problem with those whose are.

    And in the case of Niner, I love it double right now, 'cause it might shake loose a few MCR frames (size XL) into the used market, for the punters like me...

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    Today's confirmation from Niner.....

    I will post pics late tonight, but there was some confirmation of the thing today.

    I have good pics, of it built single and geared. It is Ti, welds look good, not Moots, but better than chinese (i.e. Sibex).

    It will have an eccentric BB, so it can be geared or single.

    Here is the kicker: It is NOT suspension corrected. Thats right, its for rigid forks only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chequamagon
    Here is the kicker: It is NOT suspension corrected. Thats right, its for rigid forks only.
    Now I am interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMcG
    Ummmm........a Moots on the speedgoat.com site is almost $2,575!!! So you are off by a grand and change tozovr.

    However it would be interesting to see the Niner pricepoint compared to that of a custom built Quiring Ti frame. Scott had some crazy great Ti prices going (maybe he's adjusted them a bit, maybe not).

    How about this...A Dean Colonel, built here in the US is $1550...If Niner can beat that by a few hundo they'll be coming in at a great pricepoint.

    Again, nothing against Niner. I think they have a beautiful frames, and frankly I'm not one to not ride something because it wasn't made in the US....I was just surprised to learn the one9 is an $800.00 frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chequamagon
    Here is the kicker: It is NOT suspension corrected. Thats right, its for rigid forks only.
    Thank god! Now I don't want one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chequamagon
    Here is the kicker: It is NOT suspension corrected. Thats right, its for rigid forks only.
    OK, now I am on the fence....

    I can justify a new frame and selling my Air-9 frame, but if I buy a new frame and rigid fork, I might as well just build up the whole bike...mmmm rigid, single-speed Ti Niner or geared Air-9 with a Reba to chose from....hey, I can fit two bikes on my rack, sounds reasonable to me.

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    Ti Niner Pics

    here she is
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    As the discussion has gone on, it'll be interesting to see what price they put on this. At some point in the future I'd love a Ti HT, but as of right now they're out of my price range.

    Maybe Brett will chime in with some info since he's quietly watching this thread, but strangely isn't browsing the Niner forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by chequamagon

    Here is the kicker: It is NOT suspension corrected. Thats right, its for rigid forks only.
    I like it more now. My SIR felt really, really tall in the front end. Asthetically better looking, IMO too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chequamagon
    I will post pics late tonight, but there was some confirmation of the thing today.

    I have good pics, of it built single and geared. It is Ti, welds look good, not Moots, but better than chinese (i.e. Sibex).

    It will have an eccentric BB, so it can be geared or single.

    Here is the kicker: It is NOT suspension corrected. Thats right, its for rigid forks only.

    looks like i'm gonna be on a waiting list very soon!
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    Wow, that really is a pretty bike!
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    Quote Originally Posted by chequamagon

    Here is the kicker: It is NOT suspension corrected. Thats right, its for rigid forks only.
    Thanks for posting picts!

    So does that mean it will be like other bikes with A-to-C of about 470mm, or will it be using 26" rigid fork at about 440mm?

    Any other changes in geo from their other HT's?

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    What carbon fork is on there?

    EDIT: has similar decals to the DT Swiss suspension forks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by chequamagon
    ...but better than chinese (i.e. Sibex).

    Here is the kicker: It is NOT suspension corrected. Thats right, its for rigid forks only.
    Two things - have you seen a chinese welded frame lately? My XACD built frame is pretty impressively constructed weld - wise. My dad's been a professional welder and worked in QA/QC for going on 30 years (he certifies welders too) and he was fairly impressed with the welds on the frame. Anywhoo, where are they built then, Taiwan?

    Second - you could get away with running a larger offset suspension fork and make the bike handle well still; the bb height may increase by an inch or so and the virtual tt length would shorten a little though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tozovr
    How about this...A Dean Colonel, built here in the US is $1550...If Niner can beat that by a few hundo they'll be coming in at a great pricepoint.

    Again, nothing against Niner. I think they have a beautiful frames, and frankly I'm not one to not ride something because it wasn't made in the US....I was just surprised to learn the one9 is an $800.00 frame.
    the dean is $1750. +200 for the mod dropouts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fulton
    the dean is $1750. +200 for the mod dropouts
    And then wait, wait, wait at least 3 or 4 months?

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    Wink Niner=WAIT

    and you figure all the folks who are sitting waiting on other Niner frames would say anything different? I know of several people who have been waiting for months to get a Niner, don't think they've quite figured out that they're a popular brand, that's doing well and will continue so produce higher runs of the damn bikes already
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    I thought Ti and a set-screw style EBB runs the risk of ovalizing?

    And the non-suspension corrected is kind of a bummer IMO also.

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    Carver TI for $1K

    Carver will be selling a TI 99er for about 1K. It is made in China but that is a great pricepoint for a TI bike.
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    More info from the MTBR Interbike page:

    The latest project is a titanium 29er hardtail. Yet unnamed, Niner will seek the publicís help to determine the configurations to produce. Singlespeed, geared, rigid fork only, EBB are some of the configurations in play. Mtbr will develop some quick polls after the show to collect some opinions in the matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJones
    Mtbr will develop some quick polls after the show to collect some opinions in the matter.
    Cool! I'm going to vote for a 26" wheel version!

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