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    UZZI vp preproduction works blue

    Here it is & this is very close to a production bike , just a few machined bits will change & downtube. I have settled on the adjustable travel @ 7" or 7.5" using a 8.75 X 2.75 keeping the leverage ratio in the sweet spot at around 2.5.depending on travel setting.
    We are incorperating the new "G3 drop out" that gives 3 way geometry adjustment to chainstay lenght, BB height & head angle. 1/4" change to CS & BB height & 1/2 degree on HA. In middle setting on G3 CS is 17.25" & BB @ 14" w fox 36 & 14.25" w 180 Totem.
    Recomended 160 to 180 forks, Head angle in middle setting on G3 is 67 with Fox 36 & 66 with 180 totem, you can figure the numbers in the other settings. Again as on the Tracer vp the travel adjust does not affect the geometry. Also 1.5 HT & machined in ISCG 05 and is Hammerschmit compatable, dropper seat post guides.
    So you can see how tweekable this frame is & there is Mega tire room even in the short setting.
    Works Blue will be a stock color!
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    Very very nice!

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    Dropouts will be avail in 135mm or 150mm and 12mm or standard axle inserts.

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    Damm, just when I had swung to the Tracer...

    You show us this!

    A couple quick questions....

    Seatube length and frame weight on a large? With coil.

    Thanks in advance.

    PS. This bike has to have sent DT back to the drawing board to re-think the re-thunk RFX.

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    Just gorgeous. You may have posted this elsewhere but how about some wheelbase numbers? Thanks.

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    Great does anyone know if the paint 2pac paint?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scruffylooking
    Just gorgeous. You may have posted this elsewhere but how about some wheelbase numbers? Thanks.
    Medium with 180 WB is @ 45.25 in middle setting on G3, so 45" & 45.5" in short & long setting. Small frame will be 1' less & large @ 1" longer.

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    Oh, I want one...

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    Wow, this is such a gorgeous bike!

    Jeff, do you think this will still work as a trail bike in the lower travel setting and with a 160 fork? The main reason I ask is mostly due to the wheelbase being quite long when compared to say a similarly sized "all-mtn" bikes like the Nomad (e.g., large @46.25 in the middle drop-out setting compared to 45", though I think you did base the WB off a 180 fork). My large downhill bike actually has just about the same wheelbase (46.3), and I find it be a handful in tight, twisty situations. The other reason I ask is that the I noticed the seat tube now has a bend in it--I can't recall but don't think the other protos did--will there be enough insertion to allow for proper climbing post length + room to push saddle down for descending/tougher sections? I used to have a VP-Free and the bend was such that you couldn't have your cake and eat it too:-).

    The bump up in travel to 7" doesn't seem to be a big deal as I imagine a normal human would be hard pressed to tell the difference between 6.75 and 7.
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    Holy sh**! The bike gets nicer and nicer! I don't think it can replace my old Uzzi though....but you always can add it to the stable, right?
    Any numbers on frame weight? Some of the protos used air shocks. Still an option?

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    Very nice, I like the revised travel numbers.

    Is there more room to insert a seat tube than on the Socom? Just noting the bend as Resident Alien did and am wondering...

    That blue is stunning, my Works Blue Socom got more looks and compliments this summer than any other frame I've owned.

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    Wow, beautiful bike. Alas it's a bit more bike than I need for my riding, which is why I just bought a works red Tracer!

    Think I had the pleasure of talking to Jeff "Mr Intense" on the phone when I called to get the flush lower link bolt. As always great service from Intense which is why I just bought my third bike from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resident Alien
    Wow, this is such a gorgeous bike!

    Jeff, do you think this will still work as a trail bike in the lower travel setting and with a 160 fork? The main reason I ask is mostly due to the wheelbase being quite long when compared to say a similarly sized "all-mtn" bikes like the Nomad (e.g., large @46.25 in the middle drop-out setting compared to 45", though I think you did base the WB off a 180 fork). My large downhill bike actually has just about the same wheelbase (46.3), and I find it be a handful in tight, twisty situations. The other reason I ask is that the I noticed the seat tube now has a bend in it--I can't recall but don't think the other protos did--will there be enough insertion to allow for proper climbing post length + room to push saddle down for descending/tougher sections? I used to have a VP-Free and the bend was such that you couldn't have your cake and eat it too:-).

    The bump up in travel to 7" doesn't seem to be a big deal as I imagine a normal human would be hard pressed to tell the difference between 6.75 and 7.

    The wheelbase will shorten a bit with the 160 fork maybe 1/2" and I have been riding the trails with the drop out set in the short setting & with the air shock.
    In the next week I will be building this one up in more of a trail mode as this is to much bike for me with the 180 and I will post some pics & numbers.
    The one in the photos weighs in @ 35#. This egg nog sure is good gotta go!
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    I ready to place my order NOW!

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    I've clicked back on this thread 4 times today just to stare at these pics.. Friggin beautiful work Jeff. I really like how this has evolved from the early protos.

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    Thanks for the WB numbers Mr Intense. Looking forward to the trail build.

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    fabulous

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    Damn, wheelbase probably puts it a little too long for my purpose. Want a burly trail/park bike Mainly for Alpine trail riding with occasional visits to the park. I still need to be able to pedal it up hill and has to fit on tight singletrack. Hopefully it will be possible still do all this with a totem up front.

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    *remind self to stop visiting this thread*

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    man that rocks!
    great feature with the adjustable dropouts, maybe it would have been cool to make them maxle compatible though. but with the x-12 standard and every 2 weeks some new ideas from the industry, i understand that it's hard to listen to everyone.
    you'll really do yourself a favour with the works blue stock colour, as anyone seems to like it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr intense
    Dropouts will be avail in 135mm or 150mm and 12mm or standard axle inserts.
    Anyone know if the axle inserts will work with a 10mm DT RWS?

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    are there any news on the frameweight yet?
    would it make sense to build it up as a more burly allmountain/lightweight freerider?
    this bike is just a dream!!
    i think i need to replace my Nomad!
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    This is going to be the perfect bike for me!

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    Make one in XL and I will have no choice but to replace my current Uzzi with this new iteration.

    What a nice holiday spirit-raiser. New toys for big boys and girls.
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    Nice work Jeff. I've been checking back regularly for updates and this pre-production version looks spot on.
    I hope to see an XL available and this will be my next bike.
    Merry Xmas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Err
    Very nice, I like the revised travel numbers.

    Is there more room to insert a seat tube than on the Socom? Just noting the bend as Resident Alien did and am wondering...

    That blue is stunning, my Works Blue Socom got more looks and compliments this summer than any other frame I've owned.
    The slight bend in the seat tube is much lowwer than on the Socom & will allow the post to drop down. I had to do this to acheive the tire clearance & Travel in all the chainstay settings, mainly the short 17" with 7.5" travel.It is much harder to design around the adjustability but I have got it dialed now!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOJ
    You show us this!

    A couple quick questions....

    Seatube length and frame weight on a large? With coil.

    Thanks in advance.

    PS. This bike has to have sent DT back to the drawing board to re-think the re-thunk RFX.
    I have yet to make the large but my design spec has it at 19" c/t & the medium is @17.5" c/t , From riding @ feedback on the different protos the seat tube needs to be long enough to get the post up for trail riding & climbing so the numbers end up being close to the Tracer vp.
    I don't think Dave is very influenced by what anyone else is doing and that is part of what makes a Turner what it is and a great product with strong following.My guess is that the RFX would end up between the Tracer and the Uzzi as I struggled with leaving this gap but feel the adjustability of the Tracer and Uzzi carries over into this middle ground with less models for us to prduce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rug wheelie
    Anyone know if the axle inserts will work with a 10mm DT RWS?
    Yes you use the standard insert and this is a slick setup!

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    Quote Originally Posted by iRider
    Holy sh**! The bike gets nicer and nicer! I don't think it can replace my old Uzzi though....but you always can add it to the stable, right?
    Any numbers on frame weight? Some of the protos used air shocks. Still an option?
    So far weight has been in the 7.75 to 8.5 lb range depending on air or coil shock.
    We have been testing with the RS Monarch & Fox DHX 5 air shocks as well as the coil, and an air shock will most likely be an option.

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    I just have to comment on how cool I think it is that Jeff replies to threads on Christmas!!!

    Back on topic: the only thing this bike needs is a 7" Fox 36. Too bad Fox is not listening to their customers like Intense does.

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    Replaceble DO, 8.75 x 2.75 shock size, adjustable travel lighter e "lower" frame, redefined geometry....and works blu available!! What else could be asked for?? Ready to buy the "first" S size relased!!

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    Change my VPX for VP or no ? That is the question

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr intense
    So far weight has been in the 7.75 to 8.5 lb range depending on air or coil shock.
    We have been testing with the RS Monarch & Fox DHX 5 air shocks as well as the coil, and an air shock will most likely be an option.
    GO for the Rock Shox Vivid in place of the DHX coil seriously- that shock adds a whole new feel to any bike it's on. I guarantee you customers will be very pleasantly surprised after they tune the shock and throw a leg over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr intense
    Here it is & this is very close to a production bike , just a few machined bits will change & downtube. I have settled on the adjustable travel @ 7" or 7.5" using a 8.75 X 2.75 keeping the leverage ratio in the sweet spot at around 2.5.depending on travel setting.
    We are incorperating the new "G3 drop out" that gives 3 way geometry adjustment to chainstay lenght, BB height & head angle. 1/4" change to CS & BB height & 1/2 degree on HA. In middle setting on G3 CS is 17.25" & BB @ 14" w fox 36 & 14.25" w 180 Totem.
    Recomended 160 to 180 forks, Head angle in middle setting on G3 is 67 with Fox 36 & 66 with 180 totem, you can figure the numbers in the other settings. Again as on the Tracer vp the travel adjust does not affect the geometry. Also 1.5 HT & machined in ISCG 05 and is Hammerschmit compatable, dropper seat post guides.
    So you can see how tweekable this frame is & there is Mega tire room even in the short setting.
    Works Blue will be a stock color!
    So if my numbers are right, with a 203mm fork, we are looking at, in the middle setting for rear dropouts, a 14.5" bb, and a 65 degree head angle, adjustable either way by 1/4" to bb and 1/2 degree ha. I like this for a weekend warrior dh bike park bike, but who wants to yank the fork off during the week and do trail riding. Very nice option. Put us down for a couple of these bad boys Jeff... Nice work.

    I agree with Eric on the Vivid, the DHX has been worthless on VPP bikes for years, IMHO.

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    hmmm, sounds like it's the vivid's time now.... the double barrel is not so popular anymore?

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    ok, one of these babies will be mine, for sure!

    so 2 questions to ask:

    1. when will the Uzzi be available in Europe (especially in works blue!!!)?
    2. will there be an Manitou Evolver isx-6 shock option (works so much better then the DHX)

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    I couldn't have been happier with my SS........ Until this came along. Dammit!

    Pretty much everything my SS is, but with added DH capabilities and trail goodness!!

    Man oh man, i have to bag me one in the near future methinks, anyone wanna buy an '08 SS frame in pearl white????
    Its All Downhill From Here....!

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    There's the deal breaker. The WT, the WB and its way to slack for my taste. The fork thing esquire said is spot on. I want a bike that can do it all plus--I WANT TO RIDE IT IN THE WOODS.- CLIMBS- big ones like we have here in N.E. Plus with the new UZZI I was going to have to go with the Marzocchi 2009 66 ATA RC3-The only adj 180mm air fork out there now. Not that crazy about Marzocchi stuff rather have a Fox or Rock Shox stuff.The Totem Solo air is fixed at 180mm and the Talas 36 RC2 1.5 only goes to 160mm same with the Rock Shox Lyrik U-Turn/solo air 2-Step. So all said in done I will be getting a 2009 S/C Nomad with a nice white 2009 Lyrik U-Turn/solo Air 2-Step 1.5 160mm on it.

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    Well, for stock...

    Quote Originally Posted by peachy-B
    hmmm, sounds like it's the vivid's time now.... the double barrel is not so popular anymore?
    I was speaking for stock rear shocks, as I imagine Eric was as well. The DB is still, IMHO, the best shock out there, but it has to remain as a serious upgrade as it is very expensive.

    As for the Nomad v. this Uzzi comment Johnny, I.... I, um.... I'm just so speechless, I'm not sure what to say...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thump
    I've clicked back on this thread 4 times today just to stare at these pics.. Friggin beautiful work Jeff. I really like how this has evolved from the early protos.
    I have that same problem! Ummm...bike porn! Giggity, giggity, giggity

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    Mr. Intense, if your making it compatable with the Hammerschmidt, are you going to include the cable guides along the down tube? Is the new Uzzi going to be available by summer? Glad to see the new updated designs. I've always liked the way the Intense bikes ride but didn't like the bad bearings. Now with the updated greasable bearings and VPP, I'm glad that I'll be riding on a bunch of Intenses for '09. I've just ordered a spider and maybe a Uzzi, but what I'm really anxious to see is a revamped spider 29er when you get a chance. Thanks for the goods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by esquire
    As for the Nomad v. this Uzzi comment Johnny, I.... I, um.... I'm just so speechless, I'm not sure what to say...
    Um, yeah. Totally different bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR_ED
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    so 2 questions to ask:

    1. when will the Uzzi be available in Europe (especially in works blue!!!)?
    2. will there be an Manitou Evolver isx-6 shock option (works so much better then the DHX)
    These are exactly the same questions I have and I add another one:

    3. What about the red anodized frame parts from one of the silvergrey protos? Will there be an option for those colored parts?

    I really like the protos so far. Looking so good...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr intense
    The slight bend in the seat tube is much lowwer than on the Socom & will allow the post to drop down. I had to do this to acheive the tire clearance & Travel in all the chainstay settings, mainly the short 17" with 7.5" travel.It is much harder to design around the adjustability but I have got it dialed now!!
    Mr. Intense, this bend is giving me some serious headaches. Here in Europe we have some steep (hiking) trails where it is absolutely necessary to drop the saddle all the way down. Therefore I love my VPX (not the only reason though...).

    But will there be really enough space to drop a long seatpost (I use a 400mm on my VPX)??

    Everything else on the bike looks great - especially the adjustable dropouts! Thumbs up!! Great work at Intense!

    cheers,
    thomas

    ps. I already told Markus I have to have a new Uzzi in black chrome with red anodized links as soon as they are available in Austria

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR_ED
    ok, one of these babies will be mine, for sure!

    so 2 questions to ask:

    1. when will the Uzzi be available in Europe (especially in works blue!!!)?
    2. will there be an Manitou Evolver isx-6 shock option (works so much better then the DHX)
    Production is set for Feb 2009. I am suprised to hear the desire for Manitou as we had offered & were big fans of them in the past years but made the switch to Fox from consumer & dealer demand, we were stuck with lots of those shocks that nobody wanted last year.
    Works Blue will be a stock color & please remember the numbers could change a bit in the next two months.

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    nice to hear that! i ordered my M3 and my 6.6 both with Fox shox because there was no other option. unfortunately the performance of both shox was quite poor and so i decided to change to a Revox and an Evolver last year. the performance and adjustability was so much better that Fox! so personally i will not got for Fox rear shox in the near future (but Fox Forks on the others side works great!!)....

    in short words, the Evolver shock option would be a great deal!

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    Agreed...

    Quote Originally Posted by mr intense
    Production is set for Feb 2009. I am suprised to hear the desire for Manitou as we had offered & were big fans of them in the past years but made the switch to Fox from consumer & dealer demand, we were stuck with lots of those shocks that nobody wanted last year.
    Works Blue will be a stock color & please remember the numbers could change a bit in the next two months.
    I agree Jeff, we swapped almost every rear manitou shock that came on our demo and stock bikes, by the time they were sold. Rocco, Fox and Cane Creek were the primary substitutes. We only had one request for an upgraded Evolver with Ti spring.

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    Think you been hitting the egg nog a little to hard there LOL. I was not saying the Nomad is better or Nomad vs Uzzi. People have different wants and taste out of their bikes. And yes they are different bikes.I was planning on getting one was waiting for the final specs.But for what I am looking for this is not it. You made the remark about it being more of a weekend warrior bike for DH or Park riding.Will it be great for someone else yes but not for me. So that being said I choose to get a bike that I can use every day and not have to take the fork off or run a fork that I am not crazy about. A couple of days ago I went and checked out a 2009 nomad at a bike shop. Liked it but like my Tracer Vpp I can ride it all the time. Plus I can build it up alittle different from my Tracer Vpp.I am not going to buy a bike if the only time I ride it is going up North or the Bike Park in NJ.This will be my third MTB- 2008 Spec Enduro SL Expert, 2009 Intense Tracer Vpp, 2009 Santa Cruz Nomad. I like all three. Plus they are great all around bikes. Sorry I don't own a bike shop. So the bikes I have I need to get the most out of them. You on the other hand can ride what ever you want demo the bike like say the new Uzzi then turn around in sell it.If I lived very close to a bike park or a ski mountain. I would get a bike like the Uzzi or a heavy duty DH bike but I don't so. It would be IN MY OPINION A WASTE OF MONEY.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr intense
    So far weight has been in the 7.75 to 8.5 lb range depending on air or coil shock.
    We have been testing with the RS Monarch & Fox DHX 5 air shocks as well as the coil, and an air shock will most likely be an option.
    Feedback on the latest version of the DHX Air? Does it still blow thru its midstroke?

    Do they make the Monarch in a 8.75 X 2.75? Aside from some early QC hickups the feedback on this shock is promising. Be sure to let us know the results.

    The weights you quote are pretty impressive. 1/2 a pound heavier than the 6.6 and a pound lighter than the old Uzzi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyG 1970
    Think you been hitting the egg nog a little to hard there LOL. I was not saying the Nomad is better or Nomad vs Uzzi. People have different wants and taste out of their bikes. And yes they are different bikes.I was planning on getting one was waiting for the final specs.But for what I am looking for this is not it. You made the remark about it being more of a weekend warrior bike for DH or Park riding.Will it be great for someone else yes but not for me. So that being said I chose to get a bike that I can use every day and not have to take the fork off or run a fork that I am not crazy about. A couple of days ago I went and checked out a 2009 nomad at a bike shop. Liked it but like my Tracer Vpp I can ride it all the time. Plus I can build it up alittle different from my Tracer Vpp.I am not going to buy a bike if the only time I ride it is going up North or the Bike Park in NJ.This will be my third MTB- 2008 Spec Enduro SL Expert, 2009 Intense Tracer Vpp, 2009 Santa Cruz Nomad. I like all three. Plus they are great all around bikes. Sorry I don't own a bike shop so The bikes I have I need to get the most out of them. You on the other hand can ride what ever you want demo the bike like say the new Uzzi then turn around in sell it.If I lived very close to a bike park or a ski mountain I would get a bike like the Uzzi or a heavy duty DH bike but I don't so it would be IN MY OPINION A WASTE OF MONEY.
    Enduro SL, Tracer VP, and Nomad? No offense Johnny, but it seems a bit redundant to have so many bikes so close together in nature. Some might think that's a waste of money, too. =P

    Also, I think folks were just reacting to you calling certain aspects of the Uzzi "deal killers" when that style of a bike was never something that interested you in the first place. Can't kill a deal that was never a deal to begin with.

    But no worries. You have some rad bikes. Ride the crap out of them and get your money's worth!
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