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    Spider 2 proto sneek peek

    Prototype "Spider 2" that will fit between the Spider FRO & Tracer vp in the line up, basically replaces the old Spider that was dropped.
    4.5" to 5" adjustable travel @ somewhere around 5.5 to 5.75 lb frame weight.
    2nd gen VPP & AC bearings w/ zerks same as on Tracer vp.
    120 / 130mm fork range with 70 degree HA & 13" bb.
    Intense sm, med ,large,XL sizing.
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    Is it me, or does it have a tall stand over and short TT.

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    very very nice .. needs to be a different color but it is sweet

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    Will the Spider FRO have the 2nd gen vpp or is that staying the same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by saga
    Will the Spider FRO have the 2nd gen vpp or is that staying the same?
    Thats Generation 2.

    Lots of good additions and fixes going into this bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by esquire
    Thats Generation 2.

    Lots of good additions and fixes going into this bike.
    I believe the question was about the Spider FRO, not the Spider 2.


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    ready for it now

    ready to order. I've been holding out for a new spider for a while.....

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    I see that now...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ole
    I believe the question was about the Spider FRO, not the Spider 2.


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    I stand corrected. I have no idea on the Fro...

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    No place to carry a water bottle on Spider 2 ?

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    there will be water bottle bosses

    thats just a prototype to test full length cable housing as an option. I believe the next proto will have std xc routing and water btl bosses based on consumer feedback

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    hopefully the bottle bosses will be on the topside of the down tube under the shock; not too many people will use a bottle if it is on the underside

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    You will fit a bottle in that gap but taking it out on the move looks like it might be a squeeze

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    Quote Originally Posted by saga
    Will the Spider FRO have the 2nd gen vpp or is that staying the same?
    i am curious about the same thing.

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    You have to correct the position of the shock.
    I think the bike will look better when the shock is prallel to the toptube and the seat stays.
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    that would hugely affect the compression curve, especially since it's travel adjust. Most likely it has to be that way even if it is a proto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woogie11
    that would hugely affect the compression curve, especially since it's travel adjust. Most likely it has to be that way even if it is a proto.
    Yep. Looks like the shock is parallel when mounted in the higher position on the swing link.
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    Just finished P3 should be out on the trail in a day or two. This one should be dialed!
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    Will the top tube/headtube junction be hydroformed (or whatever it is) like on the Tracer/new Uzzi?

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    The Spider 2 will use our proprietory Spider Easton tube set as we are trying to keep the cost down on this frame. This has been one of our most reliable tube sets to date.
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    I would hang that proto over my fireplace
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    curious

    S, me again... drooling. I've had the good fortune to have ridden a 5.5 FRO and spider XVP. This to me looks like a 5.5 FRO with VPP2

    are you looking for a pure xc ride characteristic or more relaxed? I'm thinking 120 mated to 4.5"=spider XC, 5" mated to 130 up front more 5.5 FROsh?

    I cant wait to order one in works red. Thanks for giving us an insight into the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by velez3000
    S, me again... drooling. I've had the good fortune to have ridden a 5.5 FRO and spider XVP. This to me looks like a 5.5 FRO with VPP2

    are you looking for a pure xc ride characteristic or more relaxed? I'm thinking 120 mated to 4.5"=spider XC, 5" mated to 130 up front more 5.5 FROsh?

    I cant wait to order one in works red. Thanks for giving us an insight into the process.
    The Spider 2 fills the gap between the Spider FRO & the Tracer vp

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr intense
    Just finished P3 should be out on the trail in a day or two. This one should be dialed!
    You might want to lay off the Patron until you finish getting it fully welded.

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    so this is the bad boy replacing the 5.5? looks good, expect since its build for a 120 fork, and the new tracer for 150/160, the 5.5 that filled the suspension/geo gap is gone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stumpy_Steve
    so this is the bad boy replacing the 5.5? looks good, expect since its build for a 120 fork, and the new tracer for 150/160, the 5.5 that filled the suspension/geo gap is gone?
    The Tracer is designed for 140 to 160mm forks & the Spider 2 for 120 to 130mm forks & Spider FRO 80 to 100mm.
    The proto in the picture has a 130 Manitou on it HA is 69.5.

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    [QUOTE=mr intense]The Spider 2 fills the gap between the Spider FRO & the Tracer vp[/QUOT

    Sounds pretty freaking perfect, Thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stahr_Nut
    You might want to lay off the Patron until you finish getting it fully welded.
    The Patron is for cleaning the frame before the welding.

    RTW.

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    Answer to post #4 is missing!
    Will the Spider FRO have been updated to 2nd gen vpp or is it staying the same?

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    It would require a complete re-design of the frame, so my guess is the Spider FRO stays the same until it's time to make a Spider FRO2. Besides, with only 100mm of travel, I don't think the need VPP2 is that critical.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rickthewelder
    The Patron is for cleaning the frame before the welding.

    RTW.

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    Just because it has less travel shouldn't mean it doesn't need the new gen vpp.

    Intense were late getting the FRO spider into production so I imagine redesigning it now wouldn't appeal but still that's Intenses' fault and like Turner they should update all models no matter what travel they have.

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    Head Angle

    Quote Originally Posted by mr intense
    Prototype "Spider 2" that will fit between the Spider FRO & Tracer vp in the line up, basically replaces the old Spider that was dropped.
    4.5" to 5" adjustable travel @ somewhere around 5.5 to 5.75 lb frame weight.
    2nd gen VPP & AC bearings w/ zerks same as on Tracer vp.
    120 / 130mm fork range with 70 degree HA & 13" bb.
    Intense sm, med ,large,XL sizing.
    It seems that the sweet spot for me on a xc oriented fun bike has the HA around 69degrees. I feel dumb giving this advice since I've never built a bike, just ridden a bunch and know what my favorite bikes have had in common.

    I think having the HA at 69 at 120 would be great then if you ran it at 130 up front you'd get something a tad less than 69. perfect for calming down handling on rocky Pisgah descents.

    One quick question. i did ride a custom bike that had a 70 degree HA that felt just as stable as a 68.5 HA bike I was riding at the time. How is that accomplished? Wheel base and seat tube angles? Thanks, I'm just a tad excited about this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mezzanine
    like Turner they should update all models no matter what travel they have.
    No, they shouldn't. From a business perspective, there's a lot more value in doing it the way Intense and Santa Cruz do it- updating the models one by one (or two by two in Intense's case), tackling the projects as you have the resources and time to do it, rather than an all-at-once style.

    Intense is a small company that has to pace its new product roll-outs. They can't afford sweeping product line changes because they can't manufacture and sit on inventory of full lines of 6-8 different frames for an all-at-once new product rollout. That would be murder on the cash flow of a small company like Intense.

    Heck, even Trek didn't roll out all their new ABP bikes at once- it took them a year to cycle through from the Fuels to the Remedies and then the Sessions, and that's a company with resources several orders of magnitude greater than Intense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickthewelder
    The Patron is for cleaning the frame before the welding.

    RTW.
    See, thats what I like about you guys. You could have cheaped out and used Cuervo for that, but you went the extra mile
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    Quote Originally Posted by zark
    See, thats what I like about you guys. You could have cheaped out and used Cuervo for that, but you went the extra mile
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    Quote Originally Posted by velez3000
    It seems that the sweet spot for me on a xc oriented fun bike has the HA around 69degrees. I feel dumb giving this advice since I've never built a bike, just ridden a bunch and know what my favorite bikes have had in common.

    I think having the HA at 69 at 120 would be great then if you ran it at 130 up front you'd get something a tad less than 69. perfect for calming down handling on rocky Pisgah descents.

    One quick question. i did ride a custom bike that had a 70 degree HA that felt just as stable as a 68.5 HA bike I was riding at the time. How is that accomplished? Wheel base and seat tube angles? Thanks, I'm just a tad excited about this one.
    Something to remember with the VPP bikes is that you run 20 to 30 % sag and when the rear is set up properly the hA is always slaker than static. The 5.5 and 5.5 FRO HA was @ 70 static but with a 130 fork and the shock @ 25% the HA was at least 68.5 to 69.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickthewelder
    The Patron is for cleaning the frame before the welding.

    RTW.
    The Patron is for prepping the WELDER before welding.

    And for post ride recovery.
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    when is this bike going to be available? Looking at a tracer now but this bike fits my riding a lot better for where I live.

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    fork length

    can you run the spider 2 with a 32 140mm Fox fork?
    i think its a must.
    using this with the talas will create a perfect XC-trail machine..

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    If you must have a 140mm fork, then get the Tracer with the matching rear travel. If you want the Spider 2, get a 110-130mm fork.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Igal sigal
    can you run the spider 2 with a 32 140mm Fox fork?
    i think its a must.
    using this with the talas will create a perfect XC-trail machine..
    5.5 fits the bill. Unfortunetly in my eyes they eliminated the perfect inbetween for the spider 2 and tracer. a little outdated platform/design maybe, but the bike still rocks.

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    Spider2: 4.5" and 5" with 110-130mm fork. Tracer: 5.5" and 6" with 140-160mm fork. Don't know how you'd fit the 5.5 in between there without it becoming very intimate.


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    I think that bike is on the very top of my wish list.


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    anybody knows when we can expect a spider 29er II with updated vpp, updated headtube angle and stiffer rear?

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    Pre production Spider 2

    First Pre Production Spider 2 , very close to finished except for a few details that will lighten it up a bit.Will post complete build next week.
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    Looks very nice!

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    looks really good. I like how beefy the seatstays are.

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    Very nice,

    Specially the flush bolts on lower VPP link on the Drive side, really shows that you have listened to the feedback re the Tracer VP. Great Work.

    Love it

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    Looks great!!!! Kawasaki green again?

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    Fantastic Mr. Intense, have to say I really liked the seat stays on the previous Spider/Spider Fro! Just my opinion, is there a chance this will be available in Black Chrome?

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