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    New Uzzi protos

    This is the latest Uzzi prototype (P3) shown with a coil & air shock. I built this one up with the Fox 36 so I could get some trail riding in on it.
    Travel is 6.75" and 7.5" with the adjustable travel link.
    Also on this one is the three way adjustable drop out that has three location adjustments at 1/4" change in chainstay lenght & BB height.Adds a bit of weight but makes the bike more versatile and that is what I am going for these days.
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    Three way adjustable drop out system. Changes are made by moving bottom CR bolt to one of three holes, top bolt pivots. Would be avail in 150 or 135mm.
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    We have been riding P2 with a custom valved RS Monach in a AM build and also with the Totum & coil.
    the Uzzi uses the new gen VPP 2 like the new Tracer vp and climbs as well as the Tracer but is a whole different animal when you point it down or get in the rough stuff.
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    Work of art Jeff, lovely bit of kit!

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    Looks great, what are you looking at for frame weight with coil and/or air?

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    Love the adjustable dropouts. Beautiful bike. what are the angles on version 3?

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    In the middle setting on the adjustable DO with the Fox 36 HA is@67 and BB@ 14" and CS@17.25
    +or- 1/2 degree or 1/4" in CS and BB in long and short settings.
    Totom 180 HA is@66 and BB@14 1/4".
    Again changing the travel does not affect the numbers.

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    I hate the look of the Uzzi recently until I saw this one, GORGEOUS.
    I am really becoming a fan of Intense.
    Great Job
    Is there a timeframe for release of these?
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    Damn those look good.
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    Bent Downtube- Why?

    Why is there a bend in the down tube near where it meets the BB area? I don't think any of the other protos had it. Is it functional or just for looks?


    Edit: I think I see why it's there. It looks like a change that was made for this version was to provide more clearance for the shock so I'm guessing that the bend was needed given the angle of the down tube? At any rate, the bike looks fantastic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resident Alien
    Why is there a bend in the down tube near where it meets the BB area? I don't think any of the other protos had it. Is it functional or just for looks?


    Edit: I think I see why it's there. It looks like a change that was made for this version was to provide more clearance for the shock so I'm guessing that the bend was needed given the angle of the down tube? At any rate, the bike looks fantastic.
    You are correct as I did not want to put a hump in the top tube to get more clearance for the shock. The production tube will have less of a bend as I made up this tube in the shop and went a little to far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufusdesign
    I hate the look of the Uzzi recently until I saw this one, GORGEOUS.
    I am really becoming a fan of Intense.
    Great Job
    Is there a timeframe for release of these?
    Production is scheduled for January so delivery in Feb 2009.
    Next proto I build will be a pre production model as I am pretty happy with the results so far.

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    Looks like my not yet built Highline might be short lived . I'm really diggin P3, geo sounds perfect.
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    Wow P3 is amazing. Good work. Any planned changes for the socom? Just asking...

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    I like the direction you're going with the P3 version especially with regards to the adjustable geometry. With that said do you think you will incorporate the same adjustable dropouts on future Socom and M6 frames?

    Last and most importantly, keep up the good work!!

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    Sick.

    This bike will be replacing my beefed up 05 Enduro. Now my trimmed down 5.5 will have a worthy stable-mate. Only questions are when, how much and what color!?! Until then, I'll be glued to this forum as to when orders can start being made.

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    Maybe too early to answer this, but...

    Any idea what the shock length/stroke will be? It would be sweet if the Evolver ISX-6 I already own would fit this thing.

    As I look at the P2/P3 versions, I have a hard time knowing which sounds better to me. My current bike has a 150mm thru-axle rear end on it, and it is SOLID, but I'm trying to end up with a slimmed-down, more "trailbike" type ride. Probably 135mm rear is all I need. Maybe 135 with a thru-axle or bolt-on hub....

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    ahhhh crap i was all sold on a tracer and now i think i'm back to the uzzi

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    Just cancelled my Tracer order. It found a new owner before I could ask if it was possible at all to cancel my order...

    Have now ordered the Uzzi instead as it is probably more my kind of bike. I like it that it has moved slightly more towards the Enduro class of bikes...at least that is what it looks like to me... Frame looks not half as burly as my current VPX which I love but some times find a bit sluggish and too heavy up the long climbs. It looks more nimble then the current Uzzi but still big enough to handle the rough stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bridog
    Maybe too early to answer this, but...

    Any idea what the shock length/stroke will be? It would be sweet if the Evolver ISX-6 I already own would fit this thing.

    As I look at the P2/P3 versions, I have a hard time knowing which sounds better to me. My current bike has a 150mm thru-axle rear end on it, and it is SOLID, but I'm trying to end up with a slimmed-down, more "trailbike" type ride. Probably 135mm rear is all I need. Maybe 135 with a thru-axle or bolt-on hub....
    Sounds like you'd be better off on a Tracer. I would like to think the Uzzi will be geared more towards the freeride/dh guys utilizing a 150mm rear spacing and hopefully at least a 73mm bottom bracket.
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    Looks sweet jeff! btw, I'm loving my Tracer but i'm eyeing this one... haha
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    Size Large Spec's...

    Just awesome. The bike a lot of people have been waiting for.

    One question: Seat tube length on the large. How long? Hoping for 19", so us 6 footers
    with 33+ inseams can run our gravity dropper posts for the climbs...

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    hello my next bike.

    Happy thanksgiving jeff... Is this the shck mount configuration you have decided on? Not on the Top tube any more?
    Has shock size been decided yet?
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    Question About the Drop-Outs

    The adjustable drop-outs are a very cool idea. That said, do the adjustable drop-outs + the additional holes in the metal compromise lateral stiffness? I'm sure you guys are doing FEA analysis and will do what is needed to mitigate this, but I thought to ask since I'm curious if they do and to what extent. Also, will a maxle-specific rear be an option?

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    Great GEO....
    I like the looks of the P3 also.
    Question about TT sizing.
    Will the L be somehow larger than regular (meaning ST around 19-ish) and eTT around 24.5 to 25-ish.
    Or will there also be a XL?
    Us 190-ish CM large riders would like to know





    Quote Originally Posted by mr intense
    In the middle setting on the adjustable DO with the Fox 36 HA is@67 and BB@ 14" and CS@17.25
    +or- 1/2 degree or 1/4" in CS and BB in long and short settings.
    Totom 180 HA is@66 and BB@14 1/4".
    Again changing the travel does not affect the numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr intense
    In the middle setting on the adjustable DO with the Fox 36 HA is@67 and BB@ 14" and CS@17.25
    +or- 1/2 degree or 1/4" in CS and BB in long and short settings.
    Totom 180 HA is@66 and BB@14 1/4".
    Again changing the travel does not affect the numbers.
    The current protos are mediums and follow the standard Intense sizing , med @ 23" effective TT, sm@ 22" & Lrg @ 24" if we do a XL it will be 25".
    We just added a XL to the Tracer vp so my thoughts are that the Uzzi could follow suit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric B
    Sounds like you'd be better off on a Tracer. I would like to think the Uzzi will be geared more towards the freeride/dh guys utilizing a 150mm rear spacing and hopefully at least a 73mm bottom bracket.
    If we go with the adjustable DO then they will be avail in 135 or 150mm & yes the BB will be 73mm & with the machined in ISCG 05 mounts ( hammerschmit compatable)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resident Alien
    The adjustable drop-outs are a very cool idea. That said, do the adjustable drop-outs + the additional holes in the metal compromise lateral stiffness? I'm sure you guys are doing FEA analysis and will do what is needed to mitigate this, but I thought to ask since I'm curious if they do and to what extent. Also, will a maxle-specific rear be an option?
    We can't tell of any loss of integrity and if you look closely you will see that the Drop out pinches the receiver from both sides when tighted as well as the CR bolt. We have run the standard replaceable DO's for years with no issues. Also with the insert system you can have about any axle option avail.

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    This looks like it will be a great heavy duty trail bike (or freerider for those who swing that way)

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    Wow.

    Frame weight yet, medium?

    There are a handful of respected US made suspension mtb companies, but no other manufacturer can claim to have a connection as solid as this kind of interaction with the riders/racers on the trail.

    Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr intense
    The current protos are mediums and follow the standard Intense sizing , med @ 23" effective TT, sm@ 22" & Lrg @ 24" if we do a XL it will be 25".
    We just added a XL to the Tracer vp so my thoughts are that the Uzzi could follow suit.
    how long will the headtube be on the xl frames?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr intense
    We just added a XL to the Tracer vp so my thoughts are that the Uzzi could follow suit.
    That's the best Intense news I've heard... ever. Thanks Jeff!
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    Nice to se that you'll go for the drop outs in both 135 mm & 150 mm size, probably...and I wish the Revox will fit the frame (8.75 x 2,75). Now let the new uzzi available in works blu color and the first realesed "S" size is sold :-). Thankx for the constant update, Jeff, this frame kills!

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    Is there any noticeable flex added to the rear end by going with a bolt on over a welded unit?

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    Originally Posted by Resident Alien
    The adjustable drop-outs are a very cool idea. That said, do the adjustable drop-outs + the additional holes in the metal compromise lateral stiffness? I'm sure you guys are doing FEA analysis and will do what is needed to mitigate this, but I thought to ask since I'm curious if they do and to what extent. Also, will a maxle-specific rear be an option?


    We can't tell of any loss of integrity and if you look closely you will see that the Drop out pinches the receiver from both sides when tighted as well as the CR bolt. We have run the standard replaceable DO's for years with no issues. Also with the insert system you can have about any axle option avail.

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    This bike is going to be amazing, just gets better with each update. If its available in XL and in works blue i'll have one.
    Thanks for the updates mr intense its much appreciated.

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    Thanks a bunch for taking the time to answer all our questions. I've been watching this space anxiously since the first proto was shown and I'm really impressed by this bike. The versatility (1.5 headtube, adjustable travel, adjustable drop-outs), overall design, and beautiful looks (not only do the tubes look sexy *and purposeful*, but there is an overall symmetry that I think is often lacking with other designs) have definitely won me over.

    I will be ordering it very soon:-).

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    This might sound irrelevent but would the new Uzzi accomodate a dual crown fork if the owner wanted to and would it void the factory warranty? Granted some riders might have an extra Fox 40 and decide to run it on the new Uzzi instead of ploughing extra dough to get a totem....btw totem are very pricey in our part of the world.

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    Niccce!

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    Great job Jeff!

    What's the wheelbase like compared to the SS? My ideal bike would be one with a similar wheelbase to the SS with the adjustable travel (shorter for DJ and 4x and longer for FR and DH) so I hope it's not much longer.

    For those considering, I did get a chance to check out the protos on my visit and the suspension feels much more lively to me than the gen 1's. I don't think you'll be disappointed!

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    Thanks for the replay mr.Intense
    Yes, please make the XL reality.
    I think that all the tall riders in here will appreciate the gesture.
    Another Q...
    Since the bikes are due to go into production in Jan 2009...
    What do you think about me puting in a pre-order at my local INTENSE dealer for a XL?
    Do you think he will accept it?
    Just checking



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    Please keep the 3-W-ADJ-DO on the bike ........Thats a great idea.
    Will make the bike realy multi-purpose ready.


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    We just added a XL to the Tracer vp so my thoughts are that the Uzzi could follow suit.
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    QUICK QUESTION TO MR. INTENSE

    the rear hub spacing will be 135 X 10 or 135 X 12? just bought a DT Swiss RWS Thru Bolt,hope it work...

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    The dropouts are 12mm, but come with a 10mm insert so you can run regular hub or 10mm bolt hub.


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    Jeff -

    The P3 version is by far the best. Within the context of the frame's intended usage and what it's final weight will likely be, I really can't see any reason not to run the adj dropouts. I've ridden plenty of bikes with adj dropouts, and even considering that the weight is at the end of the swingarm, I still never noticed any ride degradation that would mitigate the advantages of the adj geometry.

    Being an UZZI, is it safe to assume that DC forks will still be fully blessed?

    What's the rough angle of the seat tube? Looks close to the SS, judging by the pics.

    Have you played around with getting a coil shock to work in both travel settings and still getting the sag you wanted? Just curios of the possible quick-swap tuning options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Err
    Jeff -

    Within the context of the frame's intended usage and what it's final weight will likely be........
    I'm assuming the target weight will be around 7.75-8.25 lbs (?) with shock, but Jeff hasn't said yet. Do you have an idea on the weight yet, Jeff?

    If that's the case, and it climbs and sprints as well as the tracer (I mean no bob,no pedal kick back, etc. I don't expect it to be quite as effecient and spritely as the tracer obviously) and descends better than my 6.6 (without the flexy rearend), I could see me trading in my Delirium-T for this bike.

    I like the adjustable travel and options for 6-8" forks, adjustable wheelbase and CS length, and replaceable dropout options, new beefed up links with zerk fittings. All good... and it's dang sexy looking too. Hard to beat that.
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    If the XL is big enough for me I'd buy one.

    How are those XT wheels holding up? Thinking of getting a set for my trail bike.

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    Yowsers!!!!!!! Nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob
    I'm assuming the target weight will be around 7.75-8.25 lbs (?) with shock, but Jeff hasn't said yet. Do you have an idea on the weight yet, Jeff?

    If that's the case, and it climbs and sprints as well as the tracer (I mean no bob,no pedal kick back, etc. I don't expect it to be quite as effecient and spritely as the tracer obviously) and descends better than my 6.6 (without the flexy rearend), I could see me trading in my Delirium-T for this bike.

    I like the adjustable travel and options for 6-8" forks, adjustable wheelbase and CS length, and replaceable dropout options, new beefed up links with zerk fittings. All good... and it's dang sexy looking too. Hard to beat that.
    Final weight should be in this range as around 8 to 8.5 with the coil and 7.5 to 7.75 lbs with air shock.

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    What size shock does it use?

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    Compatible with Fox DHX RC4?

    Yes, yes, the RC4 is currently only available in the 9.5 x 3.0 configuration. BUT, when is does become available in different lengths, will its huge piggyback fit under the top tube??? This shock would probably be awesome for this bike, making it a true mini-DH machine. Doing a little Photochop action with the rust colored Uzzi at Interbike pic and DH4 pic on Fox's website, it looks like there is clearance in the short travel position, but looks suspect in the long travel mode.

    I'm really curious as to whether this has been looked into yet.

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    The current shock spec will be a 8.75X 2.75 to keep the LR in the desired range.
    Remember that is a prototype Frame and the production model will have more clearance for different shocks.

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    Please change the down tube line. Your line ( red one ) is ugly. P2 looks better in this element.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr intense
    Remember that is a prototype Frame and the production model will have more clearance for different shocks.
    Glad to hear.

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    I'm confused, it looks like 8.75x2.75 is a fairly uncommon shock size. This would make it a little harder to swap shocks around. I guess a DHX air at 8.75x2.5 would work with just a little travel loss.

    I assume the bike will have a custom sized air shock from the factory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottW
    I'm confused, it looks like 8.75x2.75 is a fairly uncommon shock size. This would make it a little harder to swap shocks around. I guess a DHX air at 8.75x2.5 would work with just a little travel loss.

    I assume the bike will have a custom sized air shock from the factory.
    gonna have to disagree, 8.75x2.75 is pretty damn common The SC V10 and Spec. Demo 8 both use this size and there are lots of those around. Thats just two examples I'm positive that there are many more.
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    The good news is that you can get an aftermarket DHX air in 8.75 x 2.75 so the air option will still be there, but not the RP23. Not sure about OEM options for the RP23 or shocks from other manufacturers. But, I would guess that a high percentage of these frames will be sold with a coil anyway, and with the longer travel option at 7+, the 2.75 ought to perform better than a 2.5.

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    I agree this frame seems better suited to a coil. Definitely several coil options and I have seen that Marz and Manitou have air shocks in this size as well. I still haven't found the DHX air listed in that size but since the proto has one I assume they are around.

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    Hi, I got 2 questions:

    Will the frame be available with Manitou Evolver ISX-6 as frame option?

    Are the red anodized frame parts intended for final production or just for the prototype? I really like these red parts, they´re exactly what I was looking for.

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    I dont mean to be a downer, but all the Intense bikes are starting to look the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kntr
    I dont mean to be a downer, but all the Intense bikes are starting to look the same.
    only the tracer and uzzi look the same to me.. and besides, Turner has been doing that for years

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    Not a bad thing I guess...

    Quote Originally Posted by tkblazer
    only the tracer and uzzi look the same to me.. and besides, Turner has been doing that for years
    I think they all look good, Turner and Intense...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kntr
    I dont mean to be a downer, but all the Intense bikes are starting to look the same.
    You mean they all look sexy? I hear ya.

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    Dammit Jeff

    Stop bringing new bikes to market! My checkbook is huddling under the couch already.
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    Im sold,

    I just want to know a weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbogner
    That's the best Intense news I've heard... ever. Thanks Jeff!
    uh-oh......that sounds like you have a plan there....

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    What is the normal model lifespan? 2-3 years before a new version refresh? i hope not yearly like Giant ;P

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    the new uzzi is a blast to ride! i can't wait to get one, it just freakin rips on the DH

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    Quote Originally Posted by tkblazer
    the new uzzi is a blast to ride! i can't wait to get one, it just freakin rips on the DH

    Details???????

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottW
    Details???????
    its fun

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    musical shocks

    Quote Originally Posted by mr intense
    The current shock spec will be a 8.75X 2.75 to keep the LR in the desired range.
    Remember that is a prototype Frame and the production model will have more clearance for different shocks.
    I am glad that the regular production model will accommodate different shocks. My personal favorite is Marzocchi Roco pushed with a ti spring its sooo plush.The rc4 is like really expensive and lots of hype my experience with fox is not so good.Maybe it would be a good idea to have a wider choice of stock shock options for the Uzzi that way we don't have to play musical shocks and springs and get it tuned for the rider from the factory not the rider tuning for there needs when it comes to newer riders that do not know about spring rates and shock lengths. Just plug in your weight and shock preference and there you go.

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    This rig sounds really really nice. I´m considering buying a SoCom to replace my demo 7 but might get this instead because it has more adjustability and the newer VPP.

    I found this in an article online
    "Santa Cruz explains the redesigned VPP suspension as follows: “The VPP revision results in a flatter shock rate, meaning a less dramatic falling rate at the beginning of travel, and less of a rising rate near bottom-out. The instant center of the rear suspension now sits lower than before, and the new design has less chain growth than the old one. These elements make the new bike pedal and climb more efficiently than before. The geometry of the bike still ensures excellent stability, but the suspension feels more lively and the new Nomad feels more snappy and responsive everywhere.”
    "

    Does this apply to the Uzzi compared to the SoCom as well, meaning it has increased small bump sensitivity compared to the Socom? I really don't like platform/pro pedal feel, I want my bikes to feel alive and give me feedback. Am I better off buying something other than VPP then or will the Uzzi do me good?

    Side question 1: The Socom is listed with 66.5 degree head angle, does this mean that the Uzzi is actually flacker than that? That'd be good for me, I like 65-66 degrees when it points downhill.

    Side question 2: How is the strength of this frame compared to the Socom? It's allright to use the Uzzi for DH/FR? (No massive drops to flat, ie not a hucker)

    Going with either my current Totem Coil , the BOS N'Dee or a new BlackBoxxer up front for a desired 66 degree head angle.

    As a side note, those dropouts are one of the big selling points, please keep them!!
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    i got a chance to do another ride on the copper uzzi posted above however it was set at 6.75" mode with a RS monarch shock and a fox 36 van up front.. this was the first time i have ridden the uzzi in 6" mode and it really is a different animal.. To me, i think the new Uzzi is comparable to the Nomad, both in its AM capabilities and its FR abilities. the frame is stiff and the bike just pedals great.. its what i consider to be a tracer that is built for the more aggressive AM guys.. i can't speak on how well it holds up to freeriding since i suck at jumps/drops but i'm sure a few of the guys from intense are putting it through its paces.. anyhow, in 6" mode, the bike feels very low to the ground but without feeling like the head angle is too steep. according to initial specs it has a 67* head angle and 13.8 bb height. it felt a lot similar to my IH that i'm currently riding except that the front end and standover was a lot lower. Pedaling wise, i was really amazed with how well the bike climbed. the bike was set up with a double ring setup so its a lot easier to make some of the climbs on the trail we were riding compared to the single ring 36T bikes i rode in the past. Pedal bob was not noticable and there was no pedal feedback felt at all...

    i have a friend who rides a older nomad and he got a chance to ride P3 and was extremely happy with the ride although it was a size too small for him. he was amazed at how much better the VPP 2 felt compared to the older version.. he said he would purposely take the harder line on the technical rock climbs and the bike would climb up it with no issues and no pedal kick back... i don't remember the rest he said but he was very impressed with the bike...

    on a side note, i also ran into Jeff and had a nice little chat with him at the trail head... a very nice gentleman he is! i love your bikes and nice meeting you Jeff!

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    Hmm, will be interesting to see comments about DH /FR capabilities of this frame. I'm thinking buying this and a Fox 36 and a Boxxer will give me an SS and a Socom at the change of a fork.

    If the frame strength is enough for DH that is. Otherwise I guess I need to get the socom, but that 66.5 head angle is bothering me as too steep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by westman
    If the frame strength is enough for DH that is. Otherwise I guess I need to get the socom, but that 66.5 head angle is bothering me as too steep.
    66.5 too steep???? wow dude, you must have some ETREMELY steep terrain in your area.

    I've been riding my Slopestyle as my AM/DH/FR bike and it done very well. The only thing that I would prefer my Demo 8 for is on the longer descents at higher speeds where the SS starts too bobble a little. But it's wasn't designed as a DH sled- so it's a trade off that I accept willingly.


    I plan to get an M6 over the summer in 09'. Maybe if you want something a little more slack- The M6 may be the way to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudmanner
    66.5 too steep???? wow dude, you must have some ETREMELY steep terrain in your area.

    I've been riding my Slopestyle as my AM/DH/FR bike and it done very well. The only thing that I would prefer my Demo 8 for is on the longer descents at higher speeds where the SS starts too bobble a little. But it's wasn't designed as a DH sled- so it's a trade off that I accept willingly.


    I plan to get an M6 over the summer in 09'. Maybe if you want something a little more slack- The M6 may be the way to go.
    Yeah, well, lots of rock gardens. And I plan on this being my high speed long alpine descent bike so would prefer 65.5-66 degrees over 66.5 as you say it can get a bit wobbly.

    I also want to minimize weight and have some pedalling ability so it's difficult to find a bike like this.

    My wish list would be 180-200mm travel, 65-66 degree head angle, 16.75-17.15 chainstays. In other words a lighter and more pedally demo 7.

    The Socom has a bit too steep head angle for me, The SS has too little travel and the M6 weighs too much. The mix of the three(the Uzzi) looks about right but I'm not sure if it would be strong enough for putting a 888/Boxxer on it and going FR/DH? If so I say hello to my next bike..
    Swedish trail/AM/Enduro/DH-rider - Currently rides Spitfire V2 & Devinci Wilson SL. Spending the summer 2013 in Whistler, BC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westman
    Yeah, well, lots of rock gardens. And I plan on this being my high speed long alpine descent bike so would prefer 65.5-66 degrees over 66.5 as you say it can get a bit wobbly.
    66.5 is good enough IMO. You as a rider shouldn't have too much of an issue adjusting your riding to this. IMO my SS starts to wobble a little under high speed because of the wheelbase/chainstay not the HA. If it can work for Robbie Bourdon, it will work for mortals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudmanner
    66.5 is good enough IMO. You as a rider shouldn't have too much of an issue adjusting your riding to this. IMO my SS starts to wobble a little under high speed because of the wheelbase/chainstay not the HA. If it can work for Robbie Bourdon, it will work for mortals.
    Hehe, true that. Adjusting to different geometry is easier than it first seems..

    Will have to wait for comment on frame strength of the new Uzzi compared to the Socom from mr intense though.
    Swedish trail/AM/Enduro/DH-rider - Currently rides Spitfire V2 & Devinci Wilson SL. Spending the summer 2013 in Whistler, BC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudmanner
    If it can work for Robbie Bourdon, it will work for mortals.
    Good point.
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    New Uzzi

    Yesterday we put on a demo at the San Juan Trial here in Socal. I rode with Mr. Intense from the rock to the lower parking lot. I was on my 2006 old school Uzzi VPX, and he was on one of the latest Uzzi prototypes....lets just say that I could barely keep up!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IntensevCare
    Yesterday we put on a demo at the San Juan Trial here in Socal. I rode with Mr. Intense from the rock to the lower parking lot. I was on my 2006 old school Uzzi VPX, and he was on one of the latest Uzzi prototypes....lets just say that I could barely keep up!!
    Could be the rider as well.

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    The Rider??

    Quote Originally Posted by iRider
    Could be the rider as well.
    Oh!! Yes.....I suck , but the new uzzi still performed well with its seasoned pilot.

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    I second the motion for an XL version. As a 6-4 Intense owner, I would love to have something less than a 120mm stem to make it fit.

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