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    New Uzzi protos

    This is the latest Uzzi prototype (P3) shown with a coil & air shock. I built this one up with the Fox 36 so I could get some trail riding in on it.
    Travel is 6.75" and 7.5" with the adjustable travel link.
    Also on this one is the three way adjustable drop out that has three location adjustments at 1/4" change in chainstay lenght & BB height.Adds a bit of weight but makes the bike more versatile and that is what I am going for these days.
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    Three way adjustable drop out system. Changes are made by moving bottom CR bolt to one of three holes, top bolt pivots. Would be avail in 150 or 135mm.
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    We have been riding P2 with a custom valved RS Monach in a AM build and also with the Totum & coil.
    the Uzzi uses the new gen VPP 2 like the new Tracer vp and climbs as well as the Tracer but is a whole different animal when you point it down or get in the rough stuff.
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    Work of art Jeff, lovely bit of kit!

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    Looks great, what are you looking at for frame weight with coil and/or air?

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    Love the adjustable dropouts. Beautiful bike. what are the angles on version 3?

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    In the middle setting on the adjustable DO with the Fox 36 HA is@67 and BB@ 14" and CS@17.25
    +or- 1/2 degree or 1/4" in CS and BB in long and short settings.
    Totom 180 HA is@66 and BB@14 1/4".
    Again changing the travel does not affect the numbers.

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    I hate the look of the Uzzi recently until I saw this one, GORGEOUS.
    I am really becoming a fan of Intense.
    Great Job
    Is there a timeframe for release of these?
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    Damn those look good.
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    Bent Downtube- Why?

    Why is there a bend in the down tube near where it meets the BB area? I don't think any of the other protos had it. Is it functional or just for looks?


    Edit: I think I see why it's there. It looks like a change that was made for this version was to provide more clearance for the shock so I'm guessing that the bend was needed given the angle of the down tube? At any rate, the bike looks fantastic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resident Alien
    Why is there a bend in the down tube near where it meets the BB area? I don't think any of the other protos had it. Is it functional or just for looks?


    Edit: I think I see why it's there. It looks like a change that was made for this version was to provide more clearance for the shock so I'm guessing that the bend was needed given the angle of the down tube? At any rate, the bike looks fantastic.
    You are correct as I did not want to put a hump in the top tube to get more clearance for the shock. The production tube will have less of a bend as I made up this tube in the shop and went a little to far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufusdesign
    I hate the look of the Uzzi recently until I saw this one, GORGEOUS.
    I am really becoming a fan of Intense.
    Great Job
    Is there a timeframe for release of these?
    Production is scheduled for January so delivery in Feb 2009.
    Next proto I build will be a pre production model as I am pretty happy with the results so far.

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    Looks like my not yet built Highline might be short lived . I'm really diggin P3, geo sounds perfect.
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    Wow P3 is amazing. Good work. Any planned changes for the socom? Just asking...

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    I like the direction you're going with the P3 version especially with regards to the adjustable geometry. With that said do you think you will incorporate the same adjustable dropouts on future Socom and M6 frames?

    Last and most importantly, keep up the good work!!

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    Sick.

    This bike will be replacing my beefed up 05 Enduro. Now my trimmed down 5.5 will have a worthy stable-mate. Only questions are when, how much and what color!?! Until then, I'll be glued to this forum as to when orders can start being made.

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    Maybe too early to answer this, but...

    Any idea what the shock length/stroke will be? It would be sweet if the Evolver ISX-6 I already own would fit this thing.

    As I look at the P2/P3 versions, I have a hard time knowing which sounds better to me. My current bike has a 150mm thru-axle rear end on it, and it is SOLID, but I'm trying to end up with a slimmed-down, more "trailbike" type ride. Probably 135mm rear is all I need. Maybe 135 with a thru-axle or bolt-on hub....

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    ahhhh crap i was all sold on a tracer and now i think i'm back to the uzzi

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    Just cancelled my Tracer order. It found a new owner before I could ask if it was possible at all to cancel my order...

    Have now ordered the Uzzi instead as it is probably more my kind of bike. I like it that it has moved slightly more towards the Enduro class of bikes...at least that is what it looks like to me... Frame looks not half as burly as my current VPX which I love but some times find a bit sluggish and too heavy up the long climbs. It looks more nimble then the current Uzzi but still big enough to handle the rough stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bridog
    Maybe too early to answer this, but...

    Any idea what the shock length/stroke will be? It would be sweet if the Evolver ISX-6 I already own would fit this thing.

    As I look at the P2/P3 versions, I have a hard time knowing which sounds better to me. My current bike has a 150mm thru-axle rear end on it, and it is SOLID, but I'm trying to end up with a slimmed-down, more "trailbike" type ride. Probably 135mm rear is all I need. Maybe 135 with a thru-axle or bolt-on hub....
    Sounds like you'd be better off on a Tracer. I would like to think the Uzzi will be geared more towards the freeride/dh guys utilizing a 150mm rear spacing and hopefully at least a 73mm bottom bracket.
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    Looks sweet jeff! btw, I'm loving my Tracer but i'm eyeing this one... haha
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    Size Large Spec's...

    Just awesome. The bike a lot of people have been waiting for.

    One question: Seat tube length on the large. How long? Hoping for 19", so us 6 footers
    with 33+ inseams can run our gravity dropper posts for the climbs...

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    hello my next bike.

    Happy thanksgiving jeff... Is this the shck mount configuration you have decided on? Not on the Top tube any more?
    Has shock size been decided yet?
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    Question About the Drop-Outs

    The adjustable drop-outs are a very cool idea. That said, do the adjustable drop-outs + the additional holes in the metal compromise lateral stiffness? I'm sure you guys are doing FEA analysis and will do what is needed to mitigate this, but I thought to ask since I'm curious if they do and to what extent. Also, will a maxle-specific rear be an option?

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    Great GEO....
    I like the looks of the P3 also.
    Question about TT sizing.
    Will the L be somehow larger than regular (meaning ST around 19-ish) and eTT around 24.5 to 25-ish.
    Or will there also be a XL?
    Us 190-ish CM large riders would like to know





    Quote Originally Posted by mr intense
    In the middle setting on the adjustable DO with the Fox 36 HA is@67 and BB@ 14" and CS@17.25
    +or- 1/2 degree or 1/4" in CS and BB in long and short settings.
    Totom 180 HA is@66 and BB@14 1/4".
    Again changing the travel does not affect the numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr intense
    In the middle setting on the adjustable DO with the Fox 36 HA is@67 and BB@ 14" and CS@17.25
    +or- 1/2 degree or 1/4" in CS and BB in long and short settings.
    Totom 180 HA is@66 and BB@14 1/4".
    Again changing the travel does not affect the numbers.
    The current protos are mediums and follow the standard Intense sizing , med @ 23" effective TT, sm@ 22" & Lrg @ 24" if we do a XL it will be 25".
    We just added a XL to the Tracer vp so my thoughts are that the Uzzi could follow suit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric B
    Sounds like you'd be better off on a Tracer. I would like to think the Uzzi will be geared more towards the freeride/dh guys utilizing a 150mm rear spacing and hopefully at least a 73mm bottom bracket.
    If we go with the adjustable DO then they will be avail in 135 or 150mm & yes the BB will be 73mm & with the machined in ISCG 05 mounts ( hammerschmit compatable)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resident Alien
    The adjustable drop-outs are a very cool idea. That said, do the adjustable drop-outs + the additional holes in the metal compromise lateral stiffness? I'm sure you guys are doing FEA analysis and will do what is needed to mitigate this, but I thought to ask since I'm curious if they do and to what extent. Also, will a maxle-specific rear be an option?
    We can't tell of any loss of integrity and if you look closely you will see that the Drop out pinches the receiver from both sides when tighted as well as the CR bolt. We have run the standard replaceable DO's for years with no issues. Also with the insert system you can have about any axle option avail.

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    This looks like it will be a great heavy duty trail bike (or freerider for those who swing that way)

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    Wow.

    Frame weight yet, medium?

    There are a handful of respected US made suspension mtb companies, but no other manufacturer can claim to have a connection as solid as this kind of interaction with the riders/racers on the trail.

    Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr intense
    The current protos are mediums and follow the standard Intense sizing , med @ 23" effective TT, sm@ 22" & Lrg @ 24" if we do a XL it will be 25".
    We just added a XL to the Tracer vp so my thoughts are that the Uzzi could follow suit.
    how long will the headtube be on the xl frames?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr intense
    We just added a XL to the Tracer vp so my thoughts are that the Uzzi could follow suit.
    That's the best Intense news I've heard... ever. Thanks Jeff!
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    Nice to se that you'll go for the drop outs in both 135 mm & 150 mm size, probably...and I wish the Revox will fit the frame (8.75 x 2,75). Now let the new uzzi available in works blu color and the first realesed "S" size is sold :-). Thankx for the constant update, Jeff, this frame kills!

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    Is there any noticeable flex added to the rear end by going with a bolt on over a welded unit?

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    Originally Posted by Resident Alien
    The adjustable drop-outs are a very cool idea. That said, do the adjustable drop-outs + the additional holes in the metal compromise lateral stiffness? I'm sure you guys are doing FEA analysis and will do what is needed to mitigate this, but I thought to ask since I'm curious if they do and to what extent. Also, will a maxle-specific rear be an option?


    We can't tell of any loss of integrity and if you look closely you will see that the Drop out pinches the receiver from both sides when tighted as well as the CR bolt. We have run the standard replaceable DO's for years with no issues. Also with the insert system you can have about any axle option avail.

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    This bike is going to be amazing, just gets better with each update. If its available in XL and in works blue i'll have one.
    Thanks for the updates mr intense its much appreciated.

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    Thanks a bunch for taking the time to answer all our questions. I've been watching this space anxiously since the first proto was shown and I'm really impressed by this bike. The versatility (1.5 headtube, adjustable travel, adjustable drop-outs), overall design, and beautiful looks (not only do the tubes look sexy *and purposeful*, but there is an overall symmetry that I think is often lacking with other designs) have definitely won me over.

    I will be ordering it very soon:-).

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    This might sound irrelevent but would the new Uzzi accomodate a dual crown fork if the owner wanted to and would it void the factory warranty? Granted some riders might have an extra Fox 40 and decide to run it on the new Uzzi instead of ploughing extra dough to get a totem....btw totem are very pricey in our part of the world.

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    Niccce!

    Just found what i want for Christmas

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    There is only one problem: finding space in the garage for another Intense

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    Great job Jeff!

    What's the wheelbase like compared to the SS? My ideal bike would be one with a similar wheelbase to the SS with the adjustable travel (shorter for DJ and 4x and longer for FR and DH) so I hope it's not much longer.

    For those considering, I did get a chance to check out the protos on my visit and the suspension feels much more lively to me than the gen 1's. I don't think you'll be disappointed!

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    Thanks for the replay mr.Intense
    Yes, please make the XL reality.
    I think that all the tall riders in here will appreciate the gesture.
    Another Q...
    Since the bikes are due to go into production in Jan 2009...
    What do you think about me puting in a pre-order at my local INTENSE dealer for a XL?
    Do you think he will accept it?
    Just checking



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    Please keep the 3-W-ADJ-DO on the bike ........Thats a great idea.
    Will make the bike realy multi-purpose ready.


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    We just added a XL to the Tracer vp so my thoughts are that the Uzzi could follow suit.
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    QUICK QUESTION TO MR. INTENSE

    the rear hub spacing will be 135 X 10 or 135 X 12? just bought a DT Swiss RWS Thru Bolt,hope it work...

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    The dropouts are 12mm, but come with a 10mm insert so you can run regular hub or 10mm bolt hub.


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    Jeff -

    The P3 version is by far the best. Within the context of the frame's intended usage and what it's final weight will likely be, I really can't see any reason not to run the adj dropouts. I've ridden plenty of bikes with adj dropouts, and even considering that the weight is at the end of the swingarm, I still never noticed any ride degradation that would mitigate the advantages of the adj geometry.

    Being an UZZI, is it safe to assume that DC forks will still be fully blessed?

    What's the rough angle of the seat tube? Looks close to the SS, judging by the pics.

    Have you played around with getting a coil shock to work in both travel settings and still getting the sag you wanted? Just curios of the possible quick-swap tuning options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Err
    Jeff -

    Within the context of the frame's intended usage and what it's final weight will likely be........
    I'm assuming the target weight will be around 7.75-8.25 lbs (?) with shock, but Jeff hasn't said yet. Do you have an idea on the weight yet, Jeff?

    If that's the case, and it climbs and sprints as well as the tracer (I mean no bob,no pedal kick back, etc. I don't expect it to be quite as effecient and spritely as the tracer obviously) and descends better than my 6.6 (without the flexy rearend), I could see me trading in my Delirium-T for this bike.

    I like the adjustable travel and options for 6-8" forks, adjustable wheelbase and CS length, and replaceable dropout options, new beefed up links with zerk fittings. All good... and it's dang sexy looking too. Hard to beat that.
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    If the XL is big enough for me I'd buy one.

    How are those XT wheels holding up? Thinking of getting a set for my trail bike.

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    Yowsers!!!!!!! Nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRob
    I'm assuming the target weight will be around 7.75-8.25 lbs (?) with shock, but Jeff hasn't said yet. Do you have an idea on the weight yet, Jeff?

    If that's the case, and it climbs and sprints as well as the tracer (I mean no bob,no pedal kick back, etc. I don't expect it to be quite as effecient and spritely as the tracer obviously) and descends better than my 6.6 (without the flexy rearend), I could see me trading in my Delirium-T for this bike.

    I like the adjustable travel and options for 6-8" forks, adjustable wheelbase and CS length, and replaceable dropout options, new beefed up links with zerk fittings. All good... and it's dang sexy looking too. Hard to beat that.
    Final weight should be in this range as around 8 to 8.5 with the coil and 7.5 to 7.75 lbs with air shock.

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    What size shock does it use?

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