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    New Intense Primer 29er!

    Introducing the Primer
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    A 29" trail dominating machine! 115-130mm of travel and weighing in at 25lbs (the bike i weighed) for the Factory model this thing is going to be fun!

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    Intense Primer 29 first ride report - Mtbr.com
    Intense Primer Factory first ride review - BikeRadar
    Intense Primer 29 Review: Is it really a 29er?!
    Singletrack Magazine | Review: Intense Primer 29 Factory

    *thanks Sam for the links*
    Vital “First Look” First Look: 2016 Intense Primer 29 - Mountain Biking Pictures - Vital MTB

    TwentyNine Inches: Intense Primer 29er: On Test

    Dirt Mag UK: https://dirtmountainbike.com/bike-re...irst-look.html

    MBR (UK): Here's the new Intense Primer 29 - MBR

    MountainBike Gateway: First Look: 2016 Intense Primer 29

    Downhill 24: Intense Primer set to destroy the trails - Downhill 24

    “The Latest” THE LATEST | Intense Introduces New Primer 29er Trail Bike
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    nice looking primer

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    Keep an eye out on Instagram. The new bike will be revealed there first.

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    My Carbine is going to get jealous soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCWages View Post
    Keep an eye out on Instagram. The new bike will be revealed there first.

    New teaser
    https://www.instagram.com/intensecycles/?hl=en
    Thanks a lot, just waisted 30 minutes looking at pictures
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    Quote Originally Posted by vice grips View Post
    Thanks a lot, just waisted 30 minutes looking at pictures
    My pleasure! Haha

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    Looks like a 29er!!!! So not what I am waiting for right now. Are we getting one or two more bikes after this? I am not sure if the uzzi counts as one of the five new bikes or not as it's a this year release?

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    The bike looks amazing, but im not surprised are you? I have not had the pleasure to ride it yet, but should have a review on a modified Pro model shortly, 140 fork Derby/Hope wheels and my personal cockpit wider bars longer seatpost. Those that have ride time on the Primer say 27.5 fun with 29.5 fast! It is not the same frame as the ACV, it will not take a 3" tire in the back. Maybe a 2.8 but not in any kind of mud. they designed the primer to be a seek and destroy fun trail bike and didn't want to sacrifice performance and im glad they didn't feel pressured by the trend of making every one happy with one bike. I had a Hightower that I only rode once with plus wheels and had 29ers in it the rest of the time. I sold the HT once I learned about the primer and what it's capable of and I can't wait to get mine.
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    OK, wasn't aware of these new bikes from Intense, look really nice. In reading the Enduro Mag review found the link to the ACV review and just wondered, does anyone else find it weird that the STA on the ACV is 71* and on the Primer it's 75*?
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    Reviews are live! See below

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    Vital “First Look” First Look: 2016 Intense Primer 29 - Mountain Biking Pictures - Vital MTB

    Enduro Test: Intense Primer 29 Review: Is it really a 29er?!

    TwentyNine Inches: Intense Primer 29er: On Test

    Bike Radar (UK): Intense Primer Factory first ride review - BikeRadar USA

    Dirt Mag UK: https://dirtmountainbike.com/bike-re...irst-look.html

    MBR (UK): Here's the new Intense Primer 29 - MBR

    SingleTrack (UK): Singletrack Magazine | Review: Intense Primer 29 Factory

    MountainBike Gateway: First Look: 2016 Intense Primer 29

    Downhill 24: Intense Primer set to destroy the trails - Downhill 24

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    OK, wasn't aware of these new bikes from Intense, look really nice. In reading the Enduro Mag review found the link to the ACV review and just wondered, does anyone else find it weird that the STA on the ACV is 71* and on the Primer it's 75*?
    Could one of them be a missprint ? I have learned to take their geo numbers with a grain of salt. If you look at the Spider 29C Geometry listing you will see the medium wheelbase listed at 44" (same as the small, it is supposed to be 45, with large at 46) I told them about it months ago, but like several attempts at contacting customer service; never got a response and they never bothered fixing it.
    Looks like a great bike !!! Wonder about the tire width max in the back.
    imho, they dropped the ball (very unlike Intense engineering move.)
    All three builds have a paltry 2.25 stock. I am running a 2.35 on Spider 29. Would expect them to at least oem a 29/2.35,2.4~5 back there "nowadays" even for it's intended use. Geez, even the new 115mm Tallboy will take a 3.00 tire max.
    Think I might being go with the ACV with the double (stiffer) support brace in back and just angleset the ha steeper by a degree and maybe get close to the same feel with more clearance in back.
    So really all I want is a primer front triangle (then I can run a 2x10/11 and have a good little steeper ha), with a ACV rear triangle. Is that too much too ask on a brand new bike from Intense
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    Pretty much the bike I have been waiting for. There is no mention when they will be available, especially the frame only SL along with the $$? Complete builds dont work for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glovemtb View Post
    Could one of them be a missprint ? I have learned to take their geo numbers with a grain of salt. If you look at the Spider 29C Geometry listing you will see the medium wheelbase listed at 44" (same as the small, it is supposed to be 45, with large at 46) I told them about it months ago, but like several attempts at contacting customer service; never got a response and they never bothered fixing it.
    Looks like a great bike !!! Wonder about the tire width max in the back.
    imho, they dropped the ball (very unlike Intense engineering move.)
    All three builds have a paltry 2.25 stock. I am running a 2.35 on Spider 29. Would expect them to at least oem a 29/2.35,2.4~5 back there "nowadays" even for it's intended use. Geez, even the new 115mm Tallboy will take a 3.00 tire max.
    Think I might being go with the ACV with the double (stiffer) support brace in back and just angleset the ha steeper by a degree and maybe get close to the same feel with more clearance in back.
    So really all I want is a primer front triangle (then I can run a 2x10/11 and have a good little steeper ha), with a ACV rear triangle. Is that too much too ask on a brand new bike from Intense
    It's not meant to be a convertible plus bike 29er mongrel. They tuned it to be the best it can be as a 29er trail bike. It should have no problem running a high volume 2.4 rear tire. I have run the Trail Boss 2.4 on my Spider 275c with no clearance issues at all.

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    Can anyone tell me the price of the Expert build? Considering this as an alternative to a Switchblade, which is currently at the top of my list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abq clydesdale View Post
    can anyone tell me the price of the expert build? Considering this as an alternative to a switchblade, which is currently at the top of my list.

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    Thanks Sam. For some reason I was confusing the Pro and Expert. I see the Expert price in the MTBR article now. I think I actually prefer the Expert components over the Pro.
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    I'm curious to anyone's thoughts on a new Expert Primer build ($5900) versus an "old" 2015 Carbine GX build (on sale for $3000) listed on JensonUSA:

    Intense Carbine 29 GX Jenson Bike 2015 > Bikes > Mountain Bikes | Jenson USA

    These 2 builds parts wise look the most comparable to me and the geometry between the 2 frames looks more similar than different to my eyes (big caveat, I don't have a ton of experience on FS bikes).

    I'm located in North Central Texas so 80%+ of my riding would fall squarely in the cross country category and I get along just fine on my current 29" HT, however I do like the idea of owning a "swiss army" bike and the FS 2015 Carbine at only $3000 is very tempting.

    But I'd still like opinions of more experienced riders on what compromises I might be buying into?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    OK, wasn't aware of these new bikes from Intense, look really nice. In reading the Enduro Mag review found the link to the ACV review and just wondered, does anyone else find it weird that the STA on the ACV is 71* and on the Primer it's 75*?
    There is an Effective and an Actual STA. ACV Actual is 71* and the Primer is 72.3*

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    Quote Originally Posted by icelt View Post
    I'm curious to anyone's thoughts on a new Expert Primer build ($5900) versus an "old" 2015 Carbine GX build (on sale for $3000) listed on JensonUSA:

    Intense Carbine 29 GX Jenson Bike 2015 > Bikes > Mountain Bikes | Jenson USA

    These 2 builds parts wise look the most comparable to me and the geometry between the 2 frames looks more similar than different to my eyes (big caveat, I don't have a ton of experience on FS bikes).

    I'm located in North Central Texas so 80%+ of my riding would fall squarely in the cross country category and I get along just fine on my current 29" HT, however I do like the idea of owning a "swiss army" bike and the FS 2015 Carbine at only $3000 is very tempting.

    But I'd still like opinions of more experienced riders on what compromises I might be buying into?
    I have rode both of these bikes the Carbine 29 and the Primer 29 and they are completely different riding bikes. Even with exact same components the ride characteristics of the bikes are different. To me, the Carbine 29 felt like a boat getting up on plane and once it was on plane it would just go and go over everything that was put in it's way. It was a decent climbing bike but I found myself in granny gear a lot climbing. On the Primer I don't think I ever made it into granny gear on the climbs. It was ridiculously efficient.

    It really comes down to ride preference. If you're looking to ride trail and venture into XC with a little bit of All mountain thrown in, then the Primer is your bike. If you're looking to ride more aggressive with All Mountain and some trail thrown in than the Carbine 29 is for you.

    I wasn't expecting to like the Primer when I rode it, I have my Spider 275C and was thinking that it was going to be the same ride but on a wheel size I'm not a fan of (29). 29's have always been intimidating to me since I've got short legs but as soon as I started riding the Primer I was blown away. It wasn't the same as my Spider 275C, it wasn't as "playful", but it was purposeful. With the Carbine 29 there would be a little bit of lag coming out of turns and getting onto the pedals. With the Primer it was like a slot car in the turns and as soon as I would start a peddle stroke I could immediately feel momentum increasing. It felt like sports car, so reactive.

    So again, it comes down to the riding you want to do. I enjoy Trail, I like putting on some miles and gaining some elevation, I really enjoy enjoy my Spider 275C for this. However I wouldn't mind having a Primer in the stable too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABQ Clydesdale View Post
    Thanks Sam. For some reason I was confusing the Pro and Expert. I see the Expert price in the MTBR article now. I think I actually prefer the Expert components over the Pro.
    Aside from components the Pro Model comes with a Carbon top link, titanium hardware, and is the SL Carbon layup (about 300 grams lighter than the expert). If you're a weight weenie it's one thing to consider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glovemtb View Post
    Could one of them be a missprint ? I have learned to take their geo numbers with a grain of salt. If you look at the Spider 29C Geometry listing you will see the medium wheelbase listed at 44" (same as the small, it is supposed to be 45, with large at 46) I told them about it months ago, but like several attempts at contacting customer service; never got a response and they never bothered fixing it.
    Looks like a great bike !!! Wonder about the tire width max in the back.
    imho, they dropped the ball (very unlike Intense engineering move.)
    All three builds have a paltry 2.25 stock. I am running a 2.35 on Spider 29. Would expect them to at least oem a 29/2.35,2.4~5 back there "nowadays" even for it's intended use. Geez, even the new 115mm Tallboy will take a 3.00 tire max.
    Think I might being go with the ACV with the double (stiffer) support brace in back and just angleset the ha steeper by a degree and maybe get close to the same feel with more clearance in back.
    So really all I want is a primer front triangle (then I can run a 2x10/11 and have a good little steeper ha), with a ACV rear triangle. Is that too much too ask on a brand new bike from Intense
    Looks like someone listened to you on the Spider 29 spec.

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    Yes, but they listed it as just STA, how am I supposed to know which is which? Guess bad reporting by Enduro Mag. Also since we're getting technical and nothing specific to Intense, this goes to ALL manufacturers with seat tubes that have bends in them, the Effective STA will change as the sizes change ST length because that's how it works, so you cannot actually just say Effective STA is "X" unless you are only referring to "X" height above the BB - the SM will have a effective STA than the XL.

    Other than that, as I said, nice looking bikes, for sure, really like the colourway splits.

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    There is an Effective and an Actual STA. ACV Actual is 71* and the Primer is 72.3*
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    @icdlt: I recommend the Primer over the Carbine.

    I have already been in conversations with my LBS to see if a frame-only option is available and have posted my CB Riot and Banshee Phantom for sale as well. This bike is just what I was looking for!

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    Holy crap there's some nice bikes coming out lately for us 29er lovers.

    This one looks perfect for the trails I ride. $4700 aud for frame only in Aus is pretty bloody steep though, but par for the course over here for boutique offerings.

    Thing that held me back on the Yeti that pushes me towards this is having that water bottle mount in the front triangle. Having gone from the Following to the Riot, I really miss having the bottle in a useable location for short local rides.

    Now I need to find a way to justify this to the minister of finance because I like what I'm seeing!

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    I see that mtbr hung the Primer by the shock. Is that a rough indication of where the complete bike's "balance point" is?

    Can I ask someone hold up a stock Prime Expert by the the bottom of the top tube so that it is balances with a light hand grip?

    I noticed the Spider 275c's Expert build was somewhere above the shock, and I really think that played a huge role in how easy the bike was to ride. Interested in testing this theory some more.

    I also have to add, that the upper swing link being 1 piece, and also having the bearings housed in it, rather than in the top tube, is the kind of "feature" I like to hear from brands trying to differentiate from others. Tired of hearing things like the suspension being the highlight. Technology is supposed to enrich lives, making it more achievable to attain a higher quality experience, and/or making things more convenient to live with (and hopefully less frustrating). Having marketing surround this, not blatantly told through words, but shown visually (the message should be clear and impactful), is something I'd applaud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam-IntenseCustServ View Post
    Reviews are live! See below
    Here's the new Intense Primer 29 - MBR
    - This review from MBR stood out for me. I loved seeing all the engineering details in their photos. Huge cut above the rest.

    What's up with the last 3 links?
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    Quote Originally Posted by creativefletch View Post
    I have rode both of these bikes the Carbine 29 and the Primer 29 and they are completely different riding bikes. Even with exact same components the ride characteristics of the bikes are different. To me, the Carbine 29 felt like a boat getting up on plane and once it was on plane it would just go and go over everything that was put in it's way. It was a decent climbing bike but I found myself in granny gear a lot climbing. On the Primer I don't think I ever made it into granny gear on the climbs. It was ridiculously efficient.

    It really comes down to ride preference. If you're looking to ride trail and venture into XC with a little bit of All mountain thrown in, then the Primer is your bike. If you're looking to ride more aggressive with All Mountain and some trail thrown in than the Carbine 29 is for you.

    I wasn't expecting to like the Primer when I rode it, I have my Spider 275C and was thinking that it was going to be the same ride but on a wheel size I'm not a fan of (29). 29's have always been intimidating to me since I've got short legs but as soon as I started riding the Primer I was blown away. It wasn't the same as my Spider 275C, it wasn't as "playful", but it was purposeful. With the Carbine 29 there would be a little bit of lag coming out of turns and getting onto the pedals. With the Primer it was like a slot car in the turns and as soon as I would start a peddle stroke I could immediately feel momentum increasing. It felt like sports car, so reactive.

    So again, it comes down to the riding you want to do. I enjoy Trail, I like putting on some miles and gaining some elevation, I really enjoy enjoy my Spider 275C for this. However I wouldn't mind having a Primer in the stable too.
    Thank you for the in depth feedback. Very much appreciated.

    I think I agree with your suggestion that all things being equal the Primer would most fit my qualifications. However the elephant in the room presently is the price difference between the two (basically $3000 less for the Carbine).

    That's nothing to sneeze at and given that either FS bike would be solely for fun and exercise would the Primer really be worth all that extra coin?

    Then again looking at the Jeffsy, and comparing the geo's, it's even more similar to the Primer and still a good $2800 less. It'll carry a bit more weight being aluminum but that's less concerning for me given the cost difference.


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    @icdlt: I recommend the Primer over the Carbine.
    Yeah based on initial impressions it is quite enticing I agree. However as I mull all this over in my brain I'm reminding myself of a board gaming concept... basically goes something like this, "games that FIRED other games out of your collection."

    Is the Primer such a big evolution of the platform that it fires the Carbine?

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    I've currently got a Spider 29c with 140 Pike, which seems pretty close geo wise...can anyone compare and contrast the ride and handling differences between these two bikes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nels View Post
    I've currently got a Spider 29c with 140 Pike, which seems pretty close geo wise...can anyone compare and contrast the ride and handling differences between these two bikes?
    Exactly what I was thinking... Though I have no intent to change my Spider 29 C (140mm fork) any time soon
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    The upper two models are specked with a 130 fork and the lower two with a 140. Why is that?

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    Seatpost a bit tall but doable for me. I'm curious to know if this bike has more anti-squat than the Spider 29 Comp/C...something I want and that the Spider does not really have. I like the fact that is is more supple off the sag point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icelt View Post
    Thank you for the in depth feedback. Very much appreciated.

    I think I agree with your suggestion that all things being equal the Primer would most fit my qualifications. However the elephant in the room presently is the price difference between the two (basically $3000 less for the Carbine).

    That's nothing to sneeze at and given that either FS bike would be solely for fun and exercise would the Primer really be worth all that extra coin?

    Then again looking at the Jeffsy, and comparing the geo's, it's even more similar to the Primer and still a good $2800 less. It'll carry a bit more weight being aluminum but that's less concerning for me given the cost difference.




    Yeah based on initial impressions it is quite enticing I agree. However as I mull all this over in my brain I'm reminding myself of a board gaming concept... basically goes something like this, "games that FIRED other games out of your collection."

    Is the Primer such a big evolution of the platform that it fires the Carbine?
    The Primer wasn't developed to "fire" the Carbine. It was designed as a dedicated 29" trail bike at 115-130mm travel. The Carbine is a 29" All-Mountain/Enduro bike at 145-160mm travel. Both ride very different and excel in different areas. I could ride park on the Carbine, I wouldn't ride park on the Primer. I could ride all day with 4,000 elevation gain on the Primer, I wouldn't do it on the Carbine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicane32 View Post
    The upper two models are specked with a 130 fork and the lower two with a 140. Why is that?
    According to Jake they chose a different travel fork travel for the Factory/Pro vs. the Expert/Foundation to keep the geometry the same.

    "The Axle to crown height on a 140mm pike is the same as a 130mm fox.
    The Primer 29 was built around a 130mm fork. With that in mind putting a 130mm pike on the Foundation / Expert bike would change the geo. And the head tube angle would be way too steep."

    They did the same thing for the Spider 275c. I was confused by this at first until it was explained. Thanks Jake!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCWages View Post
    According to Jake they chose a different travel fork travel for the Factory/Pro vs. the Expert/Foundation to keep the geometry the same.

    "The Axle to crown height on a 140mm pike is the same as a 130mm fox.
    The Primer 29 was built around a 130mm fork. With that in mind putting a 130mm pike on the Foundation / Expert bike would change the geo. And the head tube angle would be way too steep."

    They did the same thing for the Spider 275c. I was confused by this at first until it was explained. Thanks Jake!
    Ya, that makes perfect sense. I noticed the forks were different, but didn't think about the height difference between the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicane32 View Post
    Ya, that makes perfect sense. I noticed the forks were different, but didn't think about the height difference between the two.
    Me either. It's on of those DUH moments once it was explained.

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    So which DT Swiss carbon wheels are sold with the Factory build? Intense website (and your screen grab above show narrow (21.5mm internal) rim XRC1200. Whereas Pinkbike and 29inches show test bike photos of a more logical XMC1200 which has a 24mm internal rim. So which is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lodestone View Post
    So which DT Swiss carbon wheels are sold with the Factory build? Intense website (and your screen grab above show narrow (21.5mm internal) rim XRC1200. Whereas Pinkbike and 29inches show test bike photos of a more logical XMC1200 which has a 24mm internal rim. So which is it?
    The wheels are XMC1200. The test bikes ridden by the media used a different cassette because the Eagle cassette wasn't available for test bikes yet. So sometimes spec parts are not available at the time of a photoshoot or the spec is changed right before official rollout. In this case, the Intense website shows the correct wheel. I believe the pictures I posted also show the XMC1200.

    Oops, I see what you mean now. I'll see that the spec list gets corrected. Thanks!

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    According to Jake they chose a different travel fork travel for the Factory/Pro vs. the Expert/Foundation to keep the geometry the same.

    "The Axle to crown height on a 140mm pike is the same as a 130mm fox.
    The Primer 29 was built around a 130mm fork. With that in mind putting a 130mm pike on the Foundation / Expert bike would change the geo. And the head tube angle would be way too steep."

    They did the same thing for the Spider 275c. I was confused by this at first until it was explained. Thanks Jake!
    Is that because of Boost? Had the impression that the RS Pike had longer A2C than most other brands with same travel without Boost.
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    Is that because of Boost? Had the impression that the RS Pike had longer A2C than most other brands with same travel without Boost.
    You're correct in this statement. The Fox 34 and MRP Stage forks are shorter A2C than the Pikes. Pike 140, 551mm A2C, Fox 34 140, 547mm A2C, Stage 140, 548 A2C.

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    Okay so when is the next bike coming and what is it?

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    Okay so when is the next bike coming and what is it?
    ^^ This guy.

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    . I love my uzzi and I am waiting for a mini uzzi. Be it a new tracer or carbine 275 successor idk. 150 travel range with short rear and long front. 65-66 HTA. Thanks !

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    . I love my uzzi and I am waiting for a mini uzzi. Be it a new tracer or carbine 275 successor idk. 150 travel range with short rear and long front. 65-66 HTA. Thanks !
    Watch what you wish for or you may wind up broke. Selling yourself on the streets so you can afford a new fix (bike). That's how I feel sometimes.

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    Watch what you wish for or you may wind up broke. Selling yourself on the streets so you can afford a new fix (bike). That's how I feel sometimes.

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    I always feel funny telling someone that I can't afford something and than they look at my bike and say, "YA right"

    Mini uzzi Mmmmmm short chain stays Ggggrgggg
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    Quote Originally Posted by vice grips View Post
    I always feel funny telling someone that I can't afford something and than they look at my bike and say, "YA right"

    Mini uzzi Mmmmmm short chain stays Ggggrgggg
    Right? Priorities. The fridge may be empty but I have bike bling.
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    Back on topic, I updated the Factory Build Sheet in the first post to reflect the DT Siwss XMC1200 wheel question and it has been updated on the Intense website. Thanks Cody@Intense and thanks Lodestone for the catch.

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    These are the upcoming demos and I believe most will have a Primer and ACV available for demo although you may have to pre-register to get a ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creativefletch View Post
    The Primer wasn't developed to "fire" the Carbine. It was designed as a dedicated 29" trail bike at 115-130mm travel. The Carbine is a 29" All-Mountain/Enduro bike at 145-160mm travel. Both ride very different and excel in different areas. I could ride park on the Carbine, I wouldn't ride park on the Primer. I could ride all day with 4,000 elevation gain on the Primer, I wouldn't do it on the Carbine.
    Yeah in retrospect the "fired" analogy wasn't intended to sound so dramatic. But your further explanation in response does underscore better for me that each bike is different enough to not be directly comparable in all riding environments.

    It does seem that the Primer is the more immediate fit for the riding I presently do and reasonably foresee, but at $5900 it's also simply too rich for my blood.

    Are there any readily available demo bikes that ride "fairly" similar to the Carbine? I guess readily available in my neck of the woods includes Trek, Niner and Specialized. As much as I'd love to visit Cali and visit a demo location to go riding it ain't gonna happen.

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    New Intense Primer 29er!

    I like this bike a lot and the geometry seems solid, although I'd ideally want shorter chain stays. I think the lower link and BB area could be tucked in sub 17". My Following's a quarter inch shorter in wheelbase comparing same size frames with a 140 Stage and a 67 deg. HA, a 74 deg. SA, longer ETT and same reach numbers, in the Following's high setting. I'm also a bit disappointed that there's no guide mounts. Why are manufactures all of a sudden deciding that we don't want to protect our expensive chain rings and help to slide off stuff especially with these newer slacker lower extremely capable bikes and their low BB's? The other thing is narrow wide chain rings do wear out quickly and the guide is insurance and not a hinderance other than a little weight.
    It's a very light bike for sure so that's a nice feature and I like the steeper seat angle. Both features would help it to be a proficient climber. The boost rear helps in many ways and I like that. I've got a Honzo CR on order so I'm building or converting a boost rear wheel for that and it'll run my RS-1 120 and its front wheel. I've got three sets of carbon wheels but no boost rear yet. First off I'm going to convert the I9 Derby rear wheel to boost with the Boostniator and I'm sure it'll be even more laterally rigid after the conversion taking 3mm out of the dish towards the NDS.
    There's just not enough bennies in the Primer frame to get me off of my Following, unless of course Intense makes me a deal that I can't refuse! LOL Sam?
    Although, I could convert all three wheel sets to boost and that would simplify and broaden my wheel options between the two bikes. Not counting my 29+ bike that mostly sees touring duty.


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    Quote Originally Posted by creativefletch View Post
    The Primer wasn't developed to "fire" the Carbine. It was designed as a dedicated 29" trail bike at 115-130mm travel. The Carbine is a 29" All-Mountain/Enduro bike at 145-160mm travel. Both ride very different and excel in different areas. I could ride park on the Carbine, I wouldn't ride park on the Primer. I could ride all day with 4,000 elevation gain on the Primer, I wouldn't do it on the Carbine.
    Don't sell this Primer short compared to the current Carbine 29. This bike and its geo is as slack but tighter, stiffer and quicker. It should be much more playful than the Carbine but still handle the chunk and bigger hits especially with the stiffer package. It all comes down to suspension tuning, build and set up. I'd take this bike any day over a Carbine and ride everything faster on it.
    I should preface that I've had 2 Spiders; 29al and 29c, both slacked out with angle sets, 130/ 140 Pikes and upgraded rear sus. I currently ride a Following which definitely blurs the lines of a do anything bike.


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    This bike should take significant market share from the 429T which I own and don't like at all. Hope to get a chance to demo at some point. Another great looking bike.
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    New Intense Primer 29er!

    Is this bike growing on you?


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    Intense have hit my radar big time - after riding the Spider 275C - this, the ACV and future bikes will all be on my demo radar and top of list contenders for next bike!

    I demoed the previous gen 429. Personally couldn't get in synch with it.

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    This was at the LBS today

    Good thing it was a med.......I ride a L / XL
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeZee View Post
    Good thing it was a med.......I ride a L / XL
    Just put a 120-140mm stem on it

    On a much more awsome note, I should have my primer tomorrow or Wednesday. My cock is out ready to start rocking out! Sorry was that not PG-13? Well this thread is about to go full XXX adult bike prono so parents put your kids to bed and lend a hand to your grandparents into the other room because it's about to get wild!!!

    Im getting the pro model and trying to decide weather to make the fox 34 140 instead of 130, what do you think? I know others that ride the primer with 140 34 and that was my first thought when I got to see the numbers. I haven't riden anything less than 140 in the last 10-12 years. Im scard
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    140 all the way!!

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    Good to know that the fork can be changed to 140mm. I was wondering about that. I also have a pro model shipping thursday. This will be my first 29er ever. I have only rode (demo)a Specialized Enduro 29er a couple years back that was ok but not a game changer for me to want to switch to the wagon wheel. I also have felt as if I need to finally go to a XL which is what I am scared of. My spider 275c feels a little small. I am 6'3" with a 34" inseam. I feel like a I need a 70mm stem on the Spider so I am gambling on two things here. Size of the bike and the my first 29er. Somehow I am always happy when getting a bike from Intense so I'm not too worried about it.

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    RB it took some adjustments in my riding style to really my a 29er work for me. I still feel a 27.5 is best suited for an all around bike. But I was told from a very reputable source that the Primer may be a game changer. The pros of a 29er but not the draw backs. I had two 29ers and loved the way they gobbled chunky, braked bumped, rooty decents. My speeds were way faster on my remedy 29 than tracerC and nomad, but never liked climbing or descending on steep terrain on the remedy or Hightower. Ive heard the primer has the "snap" of a smaller wheel. I think the size should work for RB
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    Can't wait to hear your thoughts on the bike RB. I had a good 29er experience w my rip9rdo and a bad one with my 429T. That being said both bikes are shorter rear travel than the Primer with 125 on the rip and 114 on the trail. I rode the rip w a 160/140 dual bike and it was perfectly bike park capable from a travel perspective. Also when set at 140 both bikes tackled up to 6 foot to flat hucks reasonably well. You don't need that much travel on those big wheels it seems. So 140/130 should be a great setup for every day trail riding and bike park stuff.

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    Thanks for the replies on my first 29er ever! I have been very hesitant to buy a 29er since they came out due to the geometries of 95% of the big wheeled bikes made up until the last two years. I hate, and I do mean hate steep head angles on any mountain bike. I don't race so I am in no hurry to climb. But after riding the Spider 275C for the last two months, I have gotta say that I started to enjoy climbing so I am looking to to do longer distance rides which usually means more climbing. The Spider 275c is a great bike for the many 8-12 mile rides that I mostly do on week days when I have 2 hours but I am hoping that the Primer makes me want to keep going on the long, hilly days. I probably need to sell one after I figure out which fills the need best but I'd sure like to keep both. The Spider is so fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vice grips View Post
    Just put a 120-140mm stem on it

    On a much more awsome note, I should have my primer tomorrow or Wednesday. My cock is out ready to start rocking out! Sorry was that not PG-13? Well this thread is about to go full XXX adult bike prono so parents put your kids to bed and lend a hand to your grandparents into the other room because it's about to get wild!!!

    Im getting the pro model and trying to decide weather to make the fox 34 140 instead of 130, what do you think? I know others that ride the primer with 140 34 and that was my first thought when I got to see the numbers. I haven't riden anything less than 140 in the last 10-12 years. Im scard
    Stop with the suspense! Did you get it???

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    I have been trying to get a large one in blue, but my LBS says that only orange is in stock... So, I'm waiting 4-6 weeks for a blue one to come available, apparently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCWages View Post
    Stop with the suspense! Did you get it???
    It's here i have it. I had a 14 hour day at work yesterday and I had a hard time driving to the shop and getting it mostly built up. Im about 90% done. The hub just came for the front wheel so I won't have that done till this weekend but hope to get out tomorrow. I hope I start feeling like a human again tomorrow.

    The bike is impressive in person. Much like the spiderC, it's got a high level of finish. The orange looks great! Can't wait to see it in the woods, it should really POP! The eagle just looks silly, it's going to take some time to get used to it. I should have built it up stock just to see the weight. But im doing wheels, tires, bars, stem, grips, and more than likely brake in the future? Also I think I'll need to get a 170mm seatpost. Im ready to drop so im going to have to post picks in the morning. Im going to have loamy dreams tonight
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    I deffenty wouldn't have rode my bike today if I didn't have a brand new bike steering back at me. After have a crazy hard day at work two days ago and getting heatstroke I still don't feel right. Top top it off its in the mid 90% with 90% humidity, just nasty!

    I spent almost no time on the suspension but I knew it would be a quick rideonly a 6-6.5 Mile ride but got to climb a 20% dirt road to the trails. It climbs very smooth, I didn't feel any feedback. The trails are dry here but with the heat and humidity are making all the rocks have heavy condensation on them, even the roots were slick. The tire that was on the rear wheel that I slaped on the primer was a worn out low profile fast rolling tire making some exciting rear wheel slidouts but still felt composed doing it. The bike was very easy to pump up to speed, and even though I had much easier gear spread i was pushing a much larger grear. I was im pressed by how poppy it was off of rocks and trail features. Also very easy to manual and ride a wheelie. I felt like I could steer the bike from my hips and corners like a smaller wheel bike. The bigger wheels help hide the 130 mm of travel(I've been mostly riding 160-170mm bikes) but I'd really like to try a 140-150mm fork since the seat tube is so steap. That's about all I can give you from such a short ride. Im 6'1.5" with long arms. I had a 50mm stem and 785 bars. I'd maybe like to try a 35 stem and 800mm bars just to be silly but im going to leave as is for now. I leave a better review after I get a real tire on the back and my carbon front wheel put together. Im very excited about this bike. With the weight, 12 speed drive train, and balanced feel of the bike it's going to back for a fun do every thing kind of bike well 90% of every thing New Intense Primer 29er!-image.jpgNew Intense Primer 29er!-image.jpg
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    I'm guessing that you have a large frame? I see you changed to the same bar that I have for my Primer. I like the look of the black stanchions on the Fox 34. Are the stock wheels heavy? I'm thinking of replacing the wheels. I see I'll have to get mine listed soon as you will probably be doing the same. lol

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    Yes it's a large. Im not sure about the wheel weigh but they don't seem bad. They have nice hubs. But i have and am used to carbon rimmed wheels so I might as well use them. Not sure im going to sell them but im sure they won't be hard to unload
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    Read a detailed review but it didn't say anything about anti-squat and it did not seem that the snappiness of the pedaling in in the same league as the DW Link.

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    I can't to speak to the DW link as I have never really got one out on the trail but if the Primer is anything like the Spider 275c and I think it is, it has much more anti squat built into the suspension compared to earlier VPP designs. The spider is big improvement!

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    I rode the 429T and Mojo HD3 as dw link bikes and compared to my 2016 uzzi the only difference between those three bikes was the amount of rear travel. Otherwise the pedaling platforms are basically identical.

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    congrats!!! I like the blue. I'm guessing thats a large?

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    I really like this bike.
    You should thats one top shelf bike there and a beautiful one. Congrats!


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    I deffenty wouldn't have rode my bike today if I didn't have a brand new bike steering back at me. After have a crazy hard day at work two days ago and getting heatstroke I still don't feel right. Top top it off its in the mid 90% with 90% humidity, just nasty!

    I spent almost no time on the suspension but I knew it would be a quick rideonly a 6-6.5 Mile ride but got to climb a 20% dirt road to the trails. It climbs very smooth, I didn't feel any feedback. The trails are dry here but with the heat and humidity are making all the rocks have heavy condensation on them, even the roots were slick. The tire that was on the rear wheel that I slaped on the primer was a worn out low profile fast rolling tire making some exciting rear wheel slidouts but still felt composed doing it. The bike was very easy to pump up to speed, and even though I had much easier gear spread i was pushing a much larger grear. I was im pressed by how poppy it was off of rocks and trail features. Also very easy to manual and ride a wheelie. I felt like I could steer the bike from my hips and corners like a smaller wheel bike. The bigger wheels help hide the 130 mm of travel(I've been mostly riding 160-170mm bikes) but I'd really like to try a 140-150mm fork since the seat tube is so steap. That's about all I can give you from such a short ride. Im 6'1.5" with long arms. I had a 50mm stem and 785 bars. I'd maybe like to try a 35 stem and 800mm bars just to be silly but im going to leave as is for now. I leave a better review after I get a real tire on the back and my carbon front wheel put together. Im very excited about this bike. With the weight, 12 speed drive train, and balanced feel of the bike it's going to back for a fun do every thing kind of bike well 90% of every thing Click image for larger version. 

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    Vice,

    I just demoed the Factory build of the Primer this morning and it is overall the best bike that I have ever ridden by a wide margin (I had said that about the Evil Following up until today). My current ride is a 2014 Carbine 29 Pro build and here are my impressions. Wanted to see if you are seeing the same things.

    1. Climbing with the new JS tune and the steep seat angle is a revelation. Traction in loose/rocky terrain is insane and worlds better than the old VPP design. Wouldn't ever go with any setting on the shock/fork except full open. I could bring this to an XC race in the 115mm travel setting, it is that good of a climber.
    2. Incredibly capable on the downs, travel feels bottomless, tight, supple and controlled all at the same time. Just crazy good.
    3. Corners like it is on freaking rails. So snappy and carries speed for days.

    Couple of minor gripes (but nothing is perfect)

    1. The Nobby Nics sucked for dry socal riding compared to my Highroller IIs in EXO casing. I would replace these pretty quickly.

    2. The frame is insanely stiff (which is a great thing) and combined with the stiffness of the carbon wheels, I felt like the Fox 34 was getting overwhelmed a tiny bit in the front in terms of lateral stiffness and am wondering if the bike might feel better with a Pike or a Fox 36 on it. This could also just be the lack of grip that I was feeling from the Nobby Nics and not the fork that I was feeling. It looks like the media reviews almost all mentioned that the Nobby Nic was holding the front end back. Would love to try this bike with better tires. Are you feeling at all undergunned with the 34? I am about 195lbs geared up and I ride the front end of bikes pretty aggressively.
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    I really like this bike.
    Amazing bike CB, I came close to braking the bank on a factory build but I had carbon wheels and bars just sitting there. Could you post some pictures in the wild on the trail? The orange looks so much better in the woods and I bet the blue does too

    -Bullit I've only been on two fairly short rides and Ive been far from myself, getting dangerously bad heat stroke last week. My Body is so weak and depleted. Im having a hard time doing stuff around the house, let alone ride this bike to what it's cap of. To top it off it's been in the mid 90s with near 100% humidity since I've gotten the Primer. That being said I got to see some of what the primer Can do.

    I pretty much agree with you on all accounts. It climbs better than any bike I've peddled, I think the new spiderC 27.5 is right there with maybe a notch or top below. But just incredible how it builds speed going up or down for that matter. I rode with my wife and after we regrouped at the top of a series of rolling climbs(we passed 5 dudes) she said to me "crap you are going to be soo much faster on that dame bike" no lock out needed or trail mode. I think a larger volume more linear shock would be great because even with 40% sag the bike never felt harsh at bottom out or ever really felt it bottom out.

    For how snappy and agile it rides, it feels pretty composed going down. I do feel a 140 maybe a 150 fork would better suit the trails i ride, but im very inmpressed by the quality of the fork. Very supple to small bump and very good ramp up with no harsh bottom out. It came with three tokens in the fork and that's how im leaving it Untill I put a 140 air shaft in it. Also considering a .-5 angleset

    Corning is insane as you say. I rode a nomad with a 170 fork and slacked out rear most of this year. So there was a much more lower in the bike feel on the N3 than the primer, so it's going to take some time to adjust. I had a 170mm reverb post on the nomad so the 125mm on the primer with a higher over feel just isn't going to cut it. Im ordering a 170 today or at least a 150. That will improve just about every aspect of its handling.

    I've never had a chance to ride the Nobby nicks. My wife has a 2.3 on the rear of her spider and washes out in dry corners but says its a good light weight climbing tire. I'd like to try a rock razor. I think what rims/wheels you run will play a part of what tires you use. The frame like you say is stiff! Deffently the stiffest frame I've ever been on. First ride i had a bontrager xr3. It was fast rolling but didn't have the Corning or side wall support I needed. Yesterday I put a dhr minnon exo and I still need to run more pressure than I'd like to, to keep the tire from rolling in fast hard corning. I think it's the stiffness of frame and rim(derby30i) I have some bontrager 2.4 SE5s that im going to try if I bring the primer to highlands and do some DH laps

    So far the brakes are sup par on the pro build. Again im used to Shimono saint and xt on my other bikes but a 160 rotor isn't going to cut it with the kind of speed this bike will produce. I think you could get away with 180 rotors front and back but why skimp on braking to save a little weight, just me though.

    I know I should leave this bike as is, a very capable trail machine capable of gobbling up mile after mile, doing so with style and fun factor pigged at 10. But with a longer 140-150 fork, slacker HA, longer dropper, stronger brakes who knows what this bike can do. Any way you put I've got the primer as bike of the year
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridnw/bear View Post
    congrats!!! I like the blue. I'm guessing thats a large?
    It's an XL.

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    First ride report:

    Let me just start by saying what a bike. The first thing I noticed was how quickly this bike accelerates and gets up to speed, it feels almost effortless. I am not a good or even decent climber but this bike made me able to climbs things I never have before. Unfortunately I only did one descent yesterday because it was so hot and I rode with one of the young kids who works with me down a trail that I am not used to so I haven't gotten the best idea about how it descends. That said this bike is very nimble and snappy, the trail I rode had some tight switchbacks and I didn't have any trouble navigating any of the turns. All in all this bike is dialed out of the box, if your going to be doing a lot of technical descending you may want to put a 180 rotor in the rear, i changed that before my first ride but some other guys I know who demo'd one said they burned through the rear one fairly quickly.

    I am doing a pretty major rebuild on mine next week and when I do I will post the full build to make this bike a bit more all mountain oriented for myself. The cool thing is I bought a foundation Primer for my younger brother and I will just transfer all the parts off mine to his and he will pretty much have a factory with a foundation group set.

    Final thought, I couldn't be happier with this purchase. This bike seems to excel in every area of riding and I can't wait to continue to see what it can do.

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    Frame only Option?

    Anyone know what the frame only option would cost? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by vice grips View Post
    I deffenty wouldn't have rode my bike today if I didn't have a brand new bike steering back at me. After have a crazy hard day at work two days ago and getting heatstroke I still don't feel right. Top top it off its in the mid 90% with 90% humidity, just nasty!

    I spent almost no time on the suspension but I knew it would be a quick rideonly a 6-6.5 Mile ride but got to climb a 20% dirt road to the trails. It climbs very smooth, I didn't feel any feedback. The trails are dry here but with the heat and humidity are making all the rocks have heavy condensation on them, even the roots were slick. The tire that was on the rear wheel that I slaped on the primer was a worn out low profile fast rolling tire making some exciting rear wheel slidouts but still felt composed doing it. The bike was very easy to pump up to speed, and even though I had much easier gear spread i was pushing a much larger grear. I was im pressed by how poppy it was off of rocks and trail features. Also very easy to manual and ride a wheelie. I felt like I could steer the bike from my hips and corners like a smaller wheel bike. The bigger wheels help hide the 130 mm of travel(I've been mostly riding 160-170mm bikes) but I'd really like to try a 140-150mm fork since the seat tube is so steap. That's about all I can give you from such a short ride. Im 6'1.5" with long arms. I had a 50mm stem and 785 bars. I'd maybe like to try a 35 stem and 800mm bars just to be silly but im going to leave as is for now. I leave a better review after I get a real tire on the back and my carbon front wheel put together. Im very excited about this bike. With the weight, 12 speed drive train, and balanced feel of the bike it's going to back for a fun do every thing kind of bike well 90% of every thing Click image for larger version. 

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    I'm with you, has anyone heard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeZee View Post
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    They're not available.

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    Just FYI the 130 34 should easily convert to a 140 34 by removing one token in the air shaft assembly. Check fox website. Definitely the case for 36s where you can run 160-120mm for all models in that travel range. Some beautiful bikes here!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cblesius View Post
    They're not available.
    arrrggg!!!!!

    Your right........just confirmed with the nice folks at Intense.

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    I heard to check back in October for the frame-only version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryknown View Post
    I heard to check back in October for the frame-only version.
    Mhhhhh. I might just do that for my wife. She is on a 429T right now and everything should swap over nicely......

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    cblesius - How tall are you? I am 6'3" with a 34" inseam. I have a XL on order. I have always had Intenses in size large so a little concerned about it riding "big". I see you have the seatpost lowered as much as possible. Hows that working?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryknown View Post
    I heard to check back in October for the frame-only version.
    I was told that nothing until 2017. For 2016 all bikes were ordered with build kits. Frame only sales is a very small portion of their volume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shrink View Post
    Just FYI the 130 34 should easily convert to a 140 34 by removing one token in the air shaft assembly. Check fox website. Definitely the case for 36s where you can run 160-120mm for all models in that travel range. Some beautiful bikes here!!!
    I'm pretty certain you have to change out air spring shafts in the 34, not add or remove spacers to change travel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shrink View Post
    Just FYI the 130 34 should easily convert to a 140 34 by removing one token in the air shaft assembly. Check fox website. Definitely the case for 36s where you can run 160-120mm for all models in that travel range. Some beautiful bikes here!!!
    The latest generation of 34 (and 32) needs a new length air shaft to change travel. The 36 has a diff air spring system that uses neg plate travel spacers. They both require lower leg removal. Tokens are used for adjusting the spring rate through air volume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manitou2200 View Post
    I'm pretty certain you have to change out air spring shafts in the 34, not add or remove spacers to change travel.
    Yup im going to order a 140 air shaft, totally forgot. Im up in the air about just ordering a 36 so I could bump it up to 150 if I wanted to. Think 34 only goes up to 140 in 29er

    Got out on a good ride today. Not super long but hard climb and rear all mountain type decent. I really can't wait to get a longer dropper post. The bike continues to impress New Intense Primer 29er!-image.jpgNew Intense Primer 29er!-image.jpgNew Intense Primer 29er!-image.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeZee View Post
    I was told that nothing until 2017. For 2016 all bikes were ordered with build kits. Frame only sales is a very small portion of their volume.
    It was my LBS that provided the information, not Intense directly. Either way, keep checking for a frame.

    Quote Originally Posted by shrink View Post
    Mhhhhh. I might just do that for my wife. She is on a 429T right now and everything should swap over nicely......
    I picked up a 429T since I couldn't get the Primer... funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryknown View Post
    It was my LBS that provided the information, not Intense directly. Either way, keep checking for a frame.


    I picked up a 429T since I couldn't get the Primer... funny.
    Why couldn't you get one? You mean just a frame?

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    New Intense Primer 29er!

    Quote Originally Posted by vice grips View Post
    Yup im going to order a 140 air shaft, totally forgot. Im up in the air about just ordering a 36 so I could bump it up to 150 if I wanted to. Think 34 only goes up to 140 in 29er.
    I'd check in with Intense on the 150 fork length to make sure they're good with that. Their recommended fork lengths are 120-140mm. I know Canfield will void your warranty on the Riot with a fork over 140mm but it's really more about A2C length than actual travel. With our Following's some of us have been running 140's and even 150's with no issues.
    The other fork I'd recommend is the MRP Stage, that's my longer fork of choice. Super supple, super stout, great damper and very adjustable. Love the ramp control! It also takes a 180 rotor directly to the post mounts, no adapter required.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeZee View Post
    I was told that nothing until 2017. For 2016 all bikes were ordered with build kits. Frame only sales is a very small portion of their volume.
    I just emailed with my inside guy there today. They are currently back ordered on complete bikes and their priority is to fill those needs since they have been focused and transitioning to being a complete bike build company and not a frame only manufacturer/ vendor.
    It'll definitely be later this year before they get caught up and it may very well be next year before they release the frame only.
    This is good for me as I've got a Honzo CR on order and I'm still loving my Following but I've got a soft spot for Intense having owned two Spider 29's prior to The Following. I just wish they would have put ISCG05 mounts on this bike like they did the Spider 275c.

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    I think adjusting an aftermarket 34 29er to 150mm doesn't work since Fox makes the damper's rebound shaft only so long. They likely use the same FIT4 damper parts throughout their range, with some exceptions. I'd say the 29er 36 FIT4 and 27.5 170-180 36 FIT4 are such exceptions, which get special parts that were made to specifically make those models work. Try to make the A2C too long, and the rebound shaft "tops out" on the bottom of the usual FIT4 damper cartridge. Would likely only come into existence as a special custom OE-only model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vice grips View Post
    I deffenty wouldn't have rode my bike today if I didn't have a brand new bike steering back at me. After have a crazy hard day at work two days ago and getting heatstroke I still don't feel right. Top top it off its in the mid 90% with 90% humidity, just nasty!

    I spent almost no time on the suspension but I knew it would be a quick rideonly a 6-6.5 Mile ride but got to climb a 20% dirt road to the trails. It climbs very smooth, I didn't feel any feedback. The trails are dry here but with the heat and humidity are making all the rocks have heavy condensation on them, even the roots were slick. The tire that was on the rear wheel that I slaped on the primer was a worn out low profile fast rolling tire making some exciting rear wheel slidouts but still felt composed doing it. The bike was very easy to pump up to speed, and even though I had much easier gear spread i was pushing a much larger grear. I was im pressed by how poppy it was off of rocks and trail features. Also very easy to manual and ride a wheelie. I felt like I could steer the bike from my hips and corners like a smaller wheel bike. The bigger wheels help hide the 130 mm of travel(I've been mostly riding 160-170mm bikes) but I'd really like to try a 140-150mm fork since the seat tube is so steap. That's about all I can give you from such a short ride. Im 6'1.5" with long arms. I had a 50mm stem and 785 bars. I'd maybe like to try a 35 stem and 800mm bars just to be silly but im going to leave as is for now. I leave a better review after I get a real tire on the back and my carbon front wheel put together. Im very excited about this bike. With the weight, 12 speed drive train, and balanced feel of the bike it's going to back for a fun do every thing kind of bike well 90% of every thing Click image for larger version. 

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    What's the MSRP on the Pro model?

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    Pro MSRP $6990.00
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