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    New dropouts for Uzzi/Socom

    My local bike shop said that Intense is going to release some new dropouts for the Uzzi VPX/Socom that will lower the bb height about an inch. Has anyone heard about this?

    I love my Uzzi, however a lower bb would make it a whole new bike!

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    They are talking about this for over a year now. Wish it would finally happen.
    I am currently waiting on the quote from a machine shop to have some made. If Intense would release them it would save me a lot of effort (and probably money).

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    My bike shop seemed to think they would become available in the next couple of months. Anyways, I am stoked with the thought of it. Maybe I shouldn't get my hopes up so quickly.

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    That would be great news...I hope it is true.

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    i hope it's true.

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    I am going there tomorrow & will put it on my list of things to ask about.

    Other subjects on my list are:
    -Spring rate/curve of the tracer & SS
    -angular bearing retro kit
    -maxle dropouts
    -CCDB tweaks

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    Awesome...can't wait for your follow up.

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    I hope my info is incorrect, but I spoke with Chad and Andrew from Intense at Interbike and they said it was a no go. Dropouts would be ideal, but their answer is what led me into this whole shortened eye to eye shock deal that I've been working on. Bummer. If anyone has any updated info I'd like to hear it. I've looked into having some dropouts made because I have connections to a machineshop but even with the connection you'd have to make a huge pile of them for it to be worth drawing up and programming a CNC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spoker247
    I hope my info is incorrect, but I spoke with Chad and Andrew from Intense at Interbike and they said it was a no go. Dropouts would be ideal, but their answer is what led me into this whole shortened eye to eye shock deal that I've been working on. Bummer. If anyone has any updated info I'd like to hear it. I've looked into having some dropouts made because I have connections to a machineshop but even with the connection you'd have to make a huge pile of them for it to be worth drawing up and programming a CNC.

    well, i'm taking mechanical engineering technology, and want to buy an SS. If i get an SS and there are no dropouts, i'll make some CNC plans for a maxle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spoker247
    I hope my info is incorrect, but I spoke with Chad and Andrew from Intense at Interbike and they said it was a no go. Dropouts would be ideal, but their answer is what led me into this whole shortened eye to eye shock deal that I've been working on. Bummer. If anyone has any updated info I'd like to hear it. I've looked into having some dropouts made because I have connections to a machineshop but even with the connection you'd have to make a huge pile of them for it to be worth drawing up and programming a CNC.
    I pm'd with Mr. Intense a while ago and got the impression they are seriously looking into it.

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    i hope they do a maxle one too

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    This would make me a very happy boy... My Uzzi would move off the 'items to sell' list.

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    I wouldn't hold my breath on this one guys

    Took the tour & chatted it up with Chad yesterday at Intense, asked about the dropouts & the response I got was "eh ..... maybe". The issue being that it would be great but would be a one-off item made just for an out of production bike. The bikes in production already have a pretty low BB height & there isn't enough demand to make those any lower.

    The shining glimmer of hope is the potential for the 2009 Uzzi MIGHT have adjustable dropouts that could be applied to the Uzzi VPX.

    It was also stated that the MAXLE dropouts weren't high on the priority list either since there may be yet another standard coming down the line.

    I'll post some pictures from the tour once I get back home.

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    The retro kit is pretty easily done BTW.
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    From a business standpoint, I can see why they would not make this a big priority. Why go back and change an out of date model?

    Although... based on my experience, and the responses to other threads, the listed BB height was not accurate. I think integrity is a big deal to Intense, hopefully they will see this as a product integrity issue and offer a retrofit (at the consumers cost).

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    There was noise about this when the Uzzi was still in production.

    If something comes out, I'm definitely in for a set of 135s.

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    I had them made for my socom. It was quite expensive (250euro) because it was a one off.
    Now I am on a 65.2degree head angle and 14.2inch BB.
    I am currenly working on offset cups to get a 64degree head angle.



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    You should have another pair made because I will buy them!!!

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    Sign me up for a set of 135x12.

    Haven't we done this before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spoker247
    You should have another pair made because I will buy them!!!
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    Sign me up for a set of 135x12.

    Haven't we done this before?
    I am not a company trying to sell parts. I am a student who had them made by a local machine shop just for me.
    If you really want the shop make some for you guys it might be possible but you should pm me about it, but I cant guarantee anything.
    I currently only have drawings for a 150X12 hub.

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    I would be very intersted as well !!
    I personaly wouldnt mind paying you extra money for your trouble. Ims ure if you got a bunch of set made up people would be willing to pay up front. I would!!

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    Why not just buy the drawings and then find a machine shop that can make them for you? I think it would save djamgils the hassle of going out and getting it done.

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    Yea i mean i think i may have found a shop that can do it so i would hapily give you something for the drawings ?

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    I can put together a few sets if there is enough demand. I built a monster Socom 29er a few seasons ago and fabricated some drop out similar to the ones djamgils has pictured.
    There is quite a bit or labor involved and they are not absolutely perfect because they are welded up not CNC cut.

    To get a set drawn up and cut on a CNC would be over a grand a side.

    What are riders willing to pay for a set?

    I bought a set of extra drop outs for the frame I have (came with 150's and wanted 135's as well) They were stupid expensive. I can't even remember because I think I blocked it from my memory.


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    I am thinking of distributing the drawings so people can start making them themselves. But I first have to check some things because I had to file a bit to make it fit.

    For me it is a bit strange that for a lot of people the drawings are the big hurdle to take, for me it was finding somebody who could make them.

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    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.ph...00364#poststop

    If you do it as a two piece it will probably be lot cheaper to get them made. I have been running a two piece (bolted together) system for a while now with no issues.fixed.jpg

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    So if i where to take th drawings in that thread to a machine shop they should beable to make it from them ?

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    pipe send me his drawings and I took them to a machine shop. They haven't gotten back to me with a quote yet. I will let you know if they can make them and what they are asking for. They said it will be a lot cheaper if a bunch of people team up. I'll let you know what they quote me.

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    Well put me down for a set
    maybe it work make a list of names on here ?

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    Let me work out the details first and then I will post again. I don't want to start a big hype like the other thread did.

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    I'm after some technical drawings too please

    If I can be supplied the drawings, we have a few 5 axis CNC milling machines that should be able to knock these up in an operator downtime at work.

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    I donít think you are going to like the response you get when you show up at a machine shop with drawings for two bike drop outs. You might fair better than I did but be prepared for a huge price tag and not very much excitement from the fabricator. Unless you can find a mountain bike fan.
    I cut and drilled them myself and hired out the welding. Did some clean up with a grinder and rode them for more than a year.
    These are pretty ugly but were my first attempt




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    I feel like I have let you guys down on this one & didn't realize how serious some of you where about the 1 degree slack drop outs. I am going to talk to my machine shop forman on Monday about this and see if he wants to do these as a side project.
    I really had planned to do these but production always takes priority, please stay tuned as I will try my best to make it happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr intense
    I feel like I have let you guys down on this one & didn't realize how serious some of you where about the 1 degree slack drop outs. I am going to talk to my machine shop forman on Monday about this and see if he wants to do these as a side project.
    I really had planned to do these but production always takes priority, please stay tuned as I will try my best to make it happen.
    Now thats service!

    Any news you can give us on them would be awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr intense
    I feel like I have let you guys down on this one & didn't realize how serious some of you where about the 1 degree slack drop outs. I am going to talk to my machine shop forman on Monday about this and see if he wants to do these as a side project.
    I really had planned to do these but production always takes priority, please stay tuned as I will try my best to make it happen.
    Thanks!... and count me in for a set of 135s.
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    That would be awesome please Mr Intense!

    Count me in for a set of 150mm on the UK side of the atlantic!

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    That is why people are so passionate about this company! 99% of bike companies claim they are riders building for riders, but Mr Intense you really do walk the walk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr intense
    I feel like I have let you guys down on this one & didn't realize how serious some of you where about the 1 degree slack drop outs. I am going to talk to my machine shop forman on Monday about this and see if he wants to do these as a side project.
    I really had planned to do these but production always takes priority, please stay tuned as I will try my best to make it happen.
    Wow, great!!!! This is what I call customer service!
    BTW: It is more about the lower BB than the slacker angles.

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    Intense for life!

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    I'd be in for a set of 150's. Thanks for looking into this Mr. Intense.

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    I'd be in for a set of 135's.

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    count me for a 150mm, the slacker , the better

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    135's for me! Count me in! Yeah, the lower bb height is main deal for me, but, I would'nt cry if it was slacker. I've scoured multiple threads over the past year where people have done one off's, but, if you could make it happen, I can tell you the dropouts will be on backorder from all the poeple I've seen interested. PLEASE! keep us posted!
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    Count Me in

    I'd would order a set of 150's right away if they are going to be available. I would love a lower bb height and a slacker head angle would just be an extra bonus! I love Intense so glad I bought the uzzi vpx and can't really complain about the ride, but I think a lower bb height would only make it better!

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    very impressed

    I too own an older Uzzi with a 135 rear hub, and have been lurking with these dropout threads for quite some time, waiting, hoping someone would come through.

    mr. Intense, thank you for looking into this issue and realizing that it is important to your customers. that is really great customer service.

    if it does come to fruition, please put me on the list for a set of 135's

    keeping my fingers crossed,
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    Sweet!!! Sign me up for some 135mm...

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    count me in for a 150mm. intense for life!!! ( The Netherlands)

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    150mm spacing and 2 degree slacker, not just 1 degree.

    Thanks Intense

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    count me in for 150mm spacing....

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    150s here, just tell me where to order!

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    Any news Mr Intense?

    Count me in for 2 sets of 135s.

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    So i hear someone wants some custom dropouts! hello all, i run the machine shop at Intense Cylces. i spoke with Jeff today about running a batch of special drop outs for you guys. just to get an idea of quantity, who all is interested in these.

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    I'm in for some 135s

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    150's to me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTENSE CNC
    So i hear someone wants some custom dropouts! hello all, i run the machine shop at Intense Cylces. i spoke with Jeff today about running a batch of special drop outs for you guys. just to get an idea of quantity, who all is interested in these.
    How much do you plan on changin them? drop them 0.5inch, 1inch or more? Will there be a change in wheelbase? How does it affect geometry?

    I already have dropouts that have dropped the axle 2cm. This slackened the head angle 1 degree and dropped the BB about 12mm. But I would be interested in another set that would slacken it 1.5~2 degree's and also 18~24mm bb drop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djamgils
    How much do you plan on changin them? drop them 0.5inch, 1inch or more? Will there be a change in wheelbase? How does it affect geometry?

    I already have dropouts that have dropped the axle 2cm. This slackened the head angle 1 degree and dropped the BB about 12mm. But I would be interested in another set that would slacken it 1.5~2 degree's and also 18~24mm bb drop.
    That sounds rite to me. I think everyone whos ever got on my bike all agree its just way to steep. When im riding steeper stuff i find im way to far over the front no matter how i postion my self.

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    I'll take a pair 150's down in Aus.

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    I'm interested in these. 150mm for me.

    Any estimates on cost?

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    ME, ME ME!!! 135mm please!
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    Quote Originally Posted by INTENSE CNC
    So i hear someone wants some custom dropouts! hello all, i run the machine shop at Intense Cylces. i spoke with Jeff today about running a batch of special drop outs for you guys. just to get an idea of quantity, who all is interested in these.
    Yes, 135s please.

    1/2" lower and 1 degree slacker would be great. Its at 66 degrees and 14.5" BB height running Maxxis 2.5 DHFs. 65 and 14" even would be about right I think.

    edit: would want a spare driveside dropout too.
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    Thanks instense cnc for stepping up to try and help us!!! I'd suggest anyone who is serious about doing this PM you with their info (i.e. Bike model, year, 135mm/150mm, name address, contact info, etc). That way you can get a true count of those that are serious about this.
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    I will be interested on a set of 150mm plus an extra driveside dropout.

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    One set of 135s and one set of 150s. Do we call our dealer to order or do we do it here?

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    150mm wit 2 degres and please it would be super to have also more tyre clearance (=longer wheelbase), specially after this summer this mud clearance was an issue.

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    It's a Festivus Miracle! I am happy with either 150 or 135. How will distro to Canada work?

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    Yeesssssssssss!

    Sold. 1+ degree slacker, 1/2 - 1" lower please. I'm okay if it lengthens chainstays a little. 150mm x 12mm.

    Props to the Jeff and the Intense team for considering this. Huge customer service points in my book.

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    I'm In

    I would buy a set of 150's, I'm interested in the specific changes they will make, but I need a set of 150's anyways so count me in. I'll also send a pm as suggested.

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    I've been reading this thread with great interest. This sort of thing is what forums are for in my mind. Fair play to Mr Intense for taking the initiative, there could be some mileage in this one for a decent machine shop with the right machines to knock them out with the minimum of setups.

    I'll be interested to see what happens with this as I've considered doing something similar myself and am intrigued to see if Intense come through in the end..

    Could be up for some 150's ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by urbanheroes
    I'll be interested to see what happens with this as I've considered doing something similar myself and am intrigued to see if Intense come through in the end..
    I think this time it is for real.
    If not, I found a machine shop that is willing to make them.

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    I hope if they do come the uk importer will get hold of some. Good guys but we never seem to get any parts like this sent over or they dont order them

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    Quote Originally Posted by INTENSE CNC
    So i hear someone wants some custom dropouts! hello all, i run the machine shop at Intense Cylces. i spoke with Jeff today about running a batch of special drop outs for you guys. just to get an idea of quantity, who all is interested in these.

    yes please, 1 set of 135's for me.

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    Quick update... development for the new dropout is under way. stay tuned.

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    I'm in for a set of 135 mm ones as well.

    Thanks for the updates.

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    Sweet!

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    135mm

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    135mm please.

    Heck, if you told me there was only going to be a 150mm option available I'd just buy that and get a new wheel. I'm so psyched.

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    Just got pointed to this thread.

    I've had an uzzi for sale for over a year and no one wants it for the very reason everyone in this thread has stated.

    Make these dropouts and I'll start happily riding the thing again. Go as much as possible before compromising tire bottom out on the seat tube.

    Thank you for FINALLY taking this on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidwoo
    Just got pointed to this thread.

    I've had an uzzi for sale for over a year and no one wants it for the very reason everyone in this thread has stated.

    Make these dropouts and I'll start happily riding the thing again. Go as much as possible before compromising tire bottom out on the seat tube.

    Thank you for FINALLY taking this on.
    So help me God, you get the first pair, gratis.
    I've already cleared it with intensecnc.
    P/M me an address.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickthewelder
    So help me God, you get the first pair, gratis.
    I've already cleared it with intensecnc.
    P/M me an address.
    Rick.
    You know that he rides bikes form the big "S" (= ) now and retired his Uzzi for them? And he wanted to sell it!!!!!! Blasphemy!!

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    So are we going to have to order these direct from intense ? Or am i going to have to go through the uk importer ?
    thanks

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    put me down for a set of 135mm

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    Put me down for on set of 135's please. This is the greatest customer service ever. I will never buy any other bike brand

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    United Kingdom Socom rider wants a set of 135s. My life is complete. There is a God.

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    Man, I'm itching for these, any updates or estimate on when they'll be available? I have a feeling every uzzi owner is going to end up wanting a pair of the new dropouts...I don't even care how much they're going to cost at this point...

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    We had just finished CAD drawings and Fea testing and were moving into getting a production run of adjustable (10mm and 25mm higher axle position) 3 peice dropouts for the intense uzzi and socom (150mm only) but the project may be shelved now as Intense is addressing the issue themselves. - Good to see Intense being keen on listening to customer wishes.

    Rick, ReadytoRideCycles

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickthewelder
    So help me God, you get the first pair, gratis.
    I've already cleared it with intensecnc.
    P/M me an address.
    Rick.

    Done.




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    Quote Originally Posted by iRider
    You know that he rides bikes form the big "S" (= ) now and retired his Uzzi for them? And he wanted to sell it!!!!!! Blasphemy!!

    And YOU know that I was way ahead of all you beggars right?

    Anyone else interested in some uzzi dropouts that lower the BB/slacken the bike?


    Unfortunately I'm not a machinist.......
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    now if Intense is going to be too busy for this.... how about releasing the 3D drawing of these drop-outs so we can get it outsourced somewhere. after all the frame's already out of production. ;D

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    another set of 135mm to the u.k.

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    135mm for me as well. Send it to Markus at MS-Racing in Austria

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidwoo
    And YOU know that I was way ahead of all you beggars right?

    Anyone else interested in some uzzi dropouts that lower the BB/slacken the bike?


    Unfortunately I'm not a machinist.......
    Yeah I know, but you dropped the ball on it and gave up!
    FYI: I was ready to get them machined when I came across this thread. Not hearing back from the machine shop didn't scare me off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick205
    ... but the project may be shelved now as Intense is addressing the issue themselves.
    Hopefully not shelved for long. I was getting pretty excited reading the first half of your email... tease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iRider
    Yeah I know, but you dropped the ball on it and gave up!
    FYI: I was ready to get them machined when I came across this thread. Not hearing back from the machine shop didn't scare me off.

    I didn't drop the ball. Many people in the bike industry are slack ass flakes.

    There are only so many times I can say 'take my money'
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    Customer service at its best!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidwoo
    Done.




    PS: You fvcking rock
    Got ti bro.
    RTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidwoo
    There are only so many times I can say 'take my money'
    You know, there are other things that can help you to reach your goals......


    .....beer, hookers.....

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    UPDATE... Should have a finished CAD model done tomorrow. As kid woo mentioned, we were playing with different geometries to drop the bike as much as we could without tire/seat tube interference.

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    Long live the Uzzi VPX

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