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    My 1st Intense Spider XVP ... is it a 2007 ??

    Just picked up a nice looking Spider XVP frame for a pretty decent price - $550 - not a steal but not too bad. My First Intense! The Swinger X3 is new and never ridden and the frame looks to be in good condition. The sell claimed the bearings had been recently serviced.

    The Finish is Raw Aluminum and I spent the afternoon polishing it with a 6" Rotary and a Dremel polishing tool. Got a half way decent shine on it. Could have been better if I would have taken the swing arm off, but good enough and I'm happy.

    Here's my question. The seller listed this as a 2007. But in the '07 catalog I found, the emblem on the head tub is not the same as the one on this bike. The one I have says it is an FRO too (which it was NOT sold as FRO), and from the pics in the catalog, it is not an FRO.

    So how can I tell the model year of the frame? I read somewhere that the lower swinger arm block (guessing at the name) was changed between '06 and '07. But are there any distinguishing marks of the '07? Can you tell from the serial number?
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    It could be a 5.5 FRO, which used the tube set of the Spider & the geo of the 5.5. Stickers could be aftermarket.
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    I'm guessing if it is a 5.5 .... that is a win win for me But there seemed to be some glue slopped around the head tube emblem that I polished off.

    The frame is a Medium / 19" seat tube and weighs 89 oz / 2523 g (5.56 lbs) with the shock and no seat clamp using my gram scale. Weight is that of the XVP.
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    one thing is for sure: It is an XVP....guessing the head badge is a replacement as the stock ones seem to fall off if not secured properly. Better than a sticker but worse than etched IMO, but i digress

    It is (at least the rear triangle) a 2003-2005.5...notice the striations on the rear triangle...

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    Look at the serial number on the BB. It should have 2 letters followed by bunch of numbers. The first number is the year of the frame (e.g., 7).

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    CM 6*****

    So based on what Cable0guy is saying ... it is a 2006. So, at the price i paid ($550) was this a good price for an 06? I have not "rated" the seller as of yet on ebay.

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    I am seeing that from the '06 back the XVPs do not have the monoblock rear pivot upgrade. And that the pivot bolts tended to come loose before the '07s.

    Any known problems with the '06?

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    OK, if it's a 5.5 FRO, it'll have a head tube for internal HS, and shock eye to eye will be 7.5" with 2" stroke.

    If it's a Spider, std head tube & 6.5" x 1.5".

    I am now changinng my opinion to Spider due to the model year. I think '07 was the 5.5 FRO's first year. (IIRC)
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    Spider! It has a short shock. Frame code C*** is a Spider (I think), D is 5.5, dunno about 5.5 FRO.
    It could be still an 07 model if it is a late 06 production run. The next numbers of the frame number indicate the month it was build. ;-)

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    iRider, after looking around and reading more on the Spider, I think you are correct - an '07 built in '06. The frame has the Monoblock '07 single piece link and the clips on the suspension bolts ... from what i understand, all '07 upgrades.

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    FWIW ... I just got an email back from Intense Cycles on the Model Year:

    Mike,

    From the serial number, the bike is a 2006 model. There should not be any differences
    between those two model years. Let me know if you need anything else.

    Regard's

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    2006 Spider 2007 Spider

    Keep in mind that we have not always waited for the end of a model year to implement improvements to a current product. This being said....the only differences between the 2006 in the photos and a 2007 model....is the second number in the serial number. Yes, these two bikes are for all intent and purpose the same model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrm1
    FWIW ... I just got an email back from Intense Cycles on the Model Year:

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    Quote Originally Posted by IntensevCare
    Keep in mind that we have not always waited for the end of a model year to implement improvements to a current product. This being said....the only differences between the 2006 in the photos and a 2007 model....is the second number in the serial number. Yes, these two bikes are for all intent and purpose the same model.

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    Chad,

    At what point did the rear triangle change from having the horizontal channels cut into the seatstays to not? Wasnt that a mid-year change during 2006? If so, wouldnt the 2007's be different than the 2006 pictured (just the rear triangle)?

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    Thanks Chad, this clears it up. Build is started. Looking great.

    Not try to make any waves, just wanting to know what I got here.

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    OK so "finished" up the Spider tonight. Polished the frame to a nice finish with a rotary and then used a light sanding block to create a Brushed Alu finish. Finished it with a coat of acrylic. Came out very nice. Then ordered a decal and head badge set from SaddleTime Sports. This pretty much made this 2006 Spider look like new.

    Got it all build up except the final tune and suspension adjustments. Hoping to do a "dial-in" ride on Monday.

    Thanks again every one for the schooling. I think I will really enjoy this bike !
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    You made it look new !! Great job done,enjoy it !!!

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    Hi. Great looking build. Very nice finish. Can I just ask you a question as I've just bought one of these frames, what size and type front deraillier did you use/does this frame use.

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    Mavic CrossTrails and Rocket Rons

    Got some new wheels for this ride today. Hoping to get out this afternoon and do a maiden on the 2.1 RoRos and Mavic CrossTrails.

    Over all, It looks pretty sweet. Weight Savings was 1.4 lbs. Going Tubeless tonight if I can find some stans locally at a good price.
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    That looks sweet dude !!! Enjoy !!!

    How do u like that Rocket Ron as a rear tyre ?

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    Just finished my first Ride on the RoRos, Really impressed coming off of Panracer Fire XC Pro 120 compound. This Tire / Wheel combo spun up really fast and the tires seemed to hold the ground as good or better than the 2.1 Fire XCs.

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    did a race this weekend on the Spider with the 2.1 RoRos. Never slipped out once, climbed like a monkey. Almost wishing I would have gotten some Racing Ralphs now.

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    The head angle is supposed to be pretty steep on those. How does it feel to you?

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    I have ridden it with an on-the-fly adjustable Manitou Black Fork from 95 up to 120mm I prefer the setting around 120. I have been told the frame was designed around the 100mm fork and works best there, but I like the feel of a slacker angle. At the 100mm set up it feels quick and maybe a touch "squirrelly"

    At 120 I think it does tend to drift just a little. I am considering trying an internal adjustable X-Fusion fork setting it at 130. If I don't like it I will drop back to 120 or 100, but I think I will like it just fine.

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    Thanks for the info mrm. Now I have a question about how you polished that frame. You say you got a new sticker kit, so I assume you removed the old stickers? Are they hard to remove? Or did you just polish around the existing ones?

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    Hey mm1,
    I was curious how tall you are and what your inseam is. I ask because it seems that the XVP medium is equivalent to a large in other frames. I notice your seatpost seems extended a bit. Thx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    Thanks for the info mrm. Now I have a question about how you polished that frame. You say you got a new sticker kit, so I assume you removed the old stickers? Are they hard to remove? Or did you just polish around the existing ones?
    The stickers peal off pretty easy ... with some work. A hair dryer may make it simpler I guess. I bought the sticker kit from this ebayer - good guy to work with on Spider parts:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Intense-Cycles-S...item43a4271cf7

    As to polishing, I tore the frame down to all but the shock and used a rotary and polishing pad on the whole frame. I used Optimum Polish II on the rotary pad and by hand. I then took a scotch brite green pad and "sanded" the frame all in the same direction to give it that brushed aluminum look. The cleaned it with alcohol and applied the sticker kit. But in hinge site I wish I would have left it with the hi gloss finish of the polished aluminum. I like it better. Now under the stickers it is brushed, but I have managed to bring the shine back out everywhere else. What is working great to really give it a great finished look is HD Uno polish. actually seems to work better than Optimum Prime II. I use just any detail spray to keep it dirt free and looking good.

    Quote Originally Posted by jrsbike View Post
    Hey mm1,
    I was curious how tall you are and what your inseam is. I ask because it seems that the XVP medium is equivalent to a large in other frames. I notice your seatpost seems extended a bit. Thx.
    I am 5"9" without shoes. I have a 33.4" inseam with my feet spread 6" apart in my race shoes. The frame is about right for a medium to me. I run my seat at 28.5" to 29" from the center of the BB to the top of the saddle. This gives me good leg extension for XC riding. I drop it a bit for more all Mt riding.

    Hope this helps
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    Just upgraded to some 9 speed Shimano SLX cranks from my old Truvative Five Ds. Weight Savings is nearly half a pound. And I really like the looks of the SLX crank set ... even better than the XT stuff.

    My next upgrade may be either a X-Fusion Velvet or Enix RL fork. This will drop another 3/4 pound and will be my final upgrade on the bike.

    I'll post some crank pics when I get them installed.

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    I have a 2008 XVP with a RX Reba 100-120 fork set at 110 which works great for me. My bike comes in around 26 lbs.

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    Well ... just scored a 2011 X-Fusion Velvet RL for the bike too. Should be here next week and will get it down to what will be its final weight for my build at just under 26 lbs.

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    Well here is the Spider after the latest upgrades: X-Fusion Velvet RL and SLX cranks.

    The Velvet seems to be an OK improvement after my first ride. Much stiffer than the black and tends to go where you point it with less drift. Small Bump compliance is really not that much improved. Black was actually a pretty nice fork all in all.

    Crank upgrade from the Truvativ 5 D to the SLX is about the same as the fork. Some slight differences but no huge improvements. Shifting though on the SLX cranks is way better. The are very crisp and quick.

    These upgrades have dropped the total weight down to 25.5 lbs down from 26.7 before the crank and fork. Nothing a weight weenie would be proud of, but pretty respectable for what the bike is.

    Have some SLX shifters and Alligator WindCutter Rotors on the way and hope to have installed by next week. Going to switch to a 180mm rotor on the front.
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    If you are interested, here is the parts list / weight / costs of my Spider per my gram scale and wallet Frame was originally built up from a parts swap from a Marin Rocks Springs and/or a Giant Trance (which ever part was lighter). Now almost all original parts have been replaced / upgraded.

    The only thing not on the list is the Alligator Windcutter 180/160 Rotors and SLX shifters which should be delivered in a day or 2.
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    Lovin' the New X-Fusion RL Fork. Has really stiffened the front end. 1st race with the fork is in 10 days.

    Present Race Weight: Bike - 25.3 / Me - 175 ... LoL
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    Hello All,
    I am french and sorry for my bad english.

    I have a question about intense spider xvp: what is the inside diameter and the lenght of the headtube of the intense spider xvp 2004 size M ?

    Thanks

    Ps : for mrm1, I enjoy your finition spider raw aluminium
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrm1 View Post
    Lovin' the New X-Fusion RL Fork. Has really stiffened the front end. 1st race with the fork is in 10 days.
    Hi mrm1,

    How do you use your travel fork ? 100/120 or 130 mm ?

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