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    Man that was Intense.

    Old Intense owners inquire within.
    I'm riding a 2001' UZZI-SL which I built up in 02' and it's still going strong.


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    When new in 2002' on Big Laguna Trail / Noble Canyon, San Diego.

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    And the recent build up, photo at Lake Hodges, San Diego.
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    Anybody care to share a vintage INTENSE with us? I still ride this 01' UZZI SL and love the way it rides. This is an old photo and most parts have been updated since.
    So how about it, anybody else still still on a classic?
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    Dude, I'm in Illinois. The only place anyone would come from that would say this area is hilly is Kansas.

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    Old Tracer:



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    Nice Tracer Chris! Apparently we're the only two still riding the fine bikes that put INTENSE at the top. How about it anybody else still riding a vintage INTENSE? Post up some photos.
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    Dude, I'm in Illinois. The only place anyone would come from that would say this area is hilly is Kansas.

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    Is that all you got? I'll take your best shot.
    Quote Originally Posted by NDD View Post
    Dude, I'm in Illinois. The only place anyone would come from that would say this area is hilly is Kansas.

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    by vintage you mean pre-VPP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by starship303
    by vintage you mean pre-VPP?
    Yeah any INTENSE pre VPP would do. I'm just curious what early INTENSE bikes are still out on the trail..
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    Dude, I'm in Illinois. The only place anyone would come from that would say this area is hilly is Kansas.

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    I was riding a tracer similar to Nordstadt's up until a couple years ago. In 2003 it was my dream bike after riding a spesh rockhopper hardtail for 5 years.





    And it ended up as a very light full suspension singlespeed. I sold it on ebay and its still on the trails AFAIK.


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    Good job!

    Anybody else care to share thier classic INTENSE?

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    Here is my classic

    This was my dream bike when I was a starving student riding a fully rigid second hand Bridgstone. I open up my first Mountain Bike Action mag and there it was an Uzzi SL. A vision of beauty. By the time I could afford one they stop making it so I purchased a custom Uzzi SLX, it was on order and I saw this one at Big Bear at a AM cup race. I have upgraded some items since I bought it:

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/48507723@N06/5895997188/" title="DSC02739 by grumpe80, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6001/5895997188_9e0669d2f7_z.jpg" width="640" height="428" alt="DSC02739"></a>

    Intense Hadley Hub and a 03 Marzocchi Z1 Freeride
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    I wish they would do this on the new bikes
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    Got my dream bike and it is a Prototype
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    Very nice ride! My UZZI-SL has that same USA stamp on the swing arm.. So what makes that bike a prototype? Other than the paint what is different? The parts group is nice but prototype useually has to do with something different in frame or suspension design. Just curious but the bike is sweet either way.BTW awesome paint and decal scheme. The decals are identical in shape to stock but custom in color.
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    I'm sure its the same the person I bought it from I think raced for Intense-Maxxis. The decales are the most current I cut out the yellow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eluv View Post
    I'm sure its the same the person I bought it from I think raced for Intense-Maxxis. The decales are the most current I cut out the yellow.
    Great idea on the decals. You have a close up of the serial number is there something different about it?

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    "PROTO" is the serial number. Are you running gothic rotors? I have one in the rear wheel loking for a 8" for the front

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    Quote Originally Posted by eluv View Post
    "PROTO" is the serial number. Are you running gothic rotors? I have one in the rear wheel loking for a 8" for the front
    "PROTO" too cool!
    Yeah i'm running Hope minis with 6" rotors and only the front is gothic. There has been many upgrades since that old photo.Chris King red hubs laced to Mavic 729s w/red nipples on black rims, kenda nevs. 2.35s. Sram XO trigger shifters and XO rear der. XTR crank and rear cassette. Crank Brothers Joplin w/remote adj. Seatpost. Thomson stem,Chris King head set carbon spacers,Easton monkey lite carbon bars. O.D.I. Lock ons w/ Intense grips. SDL gel saddle w/Intense cover. Fox Vanilla RLC 125 mm fork Fox RC shock and Time carbon titanium ATAC pedals. Well that about covers the current build. Apparently I'm way bored as I wait for my dog to to get his yearly grooming.
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    I just picked up an old Intense frame that was powder coated. I had no idea what model or year it was until stumbling upon this thread. Apparently it is an old Tracer but still don't know year. From the look of the design I would guess between 1999 and 2001. Design is similar to a '99 Specialized Stumpy FSR I have sitting in garage. The Tracer has XTR cranks and Fox rear suspension. It looks like I can adjust geometry quite a bit. Any advice as I build up this classic? I have some SRAM X7 stuff lying around that I will put on as well as a leftover Avid BB7 disc brakes. I also have some Mavics 717 with Deore hubs and Raptor tires. I haven't picked out a fork yet. Any idea what the travel is on the Fox rear?

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    pomocanthus the rear travel on a uzzi sl is 4.75". I would use your leftover part and have fun. When i first purchased the bike I had a 100mm fork Manitou then I got a good deal on a 125mm Fox Talas and currently running a 130mm Z1. I would not go over 130mm. I hope this helps.

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    eluv, thanks for info. I actually have a Tora w 130 travel that I was thinking about putting on there but wasn't sure til now. BTW, like the rims on your MCS in the background.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pomocanthus View Post
    eluv, thanks for info. I actually have a Tora w 130 travel that I was thinking about putting on there but wasn't sure til now. BTW, like the rims on your MCS in the background.
    You said you bought an old Tracer not an UZZ-SL correct? If so the rear travel is 3.5 " which makes a 130mm fork too tall up front. That frame is designed for a 80mm to a 100mm max. You could put a UZZI-SL link on and run a 125mm-130mm fork and have an awesome light all around trail bike.
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    I ride my Tracer with an 130 mm Z1, before it had an 100 mm Z1 and it handels better than with the 100 mm - give it a try!

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    It's long gone

    My, SLX long gone can't find pic's of my M1. It was a bit flexy till I threw a 12mm TA, it was day and night. Hey J, Nishida are you still out there?

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    Love my Intenses

    On my 3rd one since 1993.

    1993 Spyder
    1998 Uzzi SL
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    Warrior,
    You sure have a sweet quiver of rides there. Looks like you have your own little Intense museum going. And what is awesome is you still own all of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WE Warrior View Post
    On my 3rd one since 1993.

    1993 Spyder
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    We Warrior, Seeing how you have experience on both the UZZI-SL and Tracer VPP
    What is your view on the difference's between the two rides?

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    DirtJunkie your first climb on a VPP you will never go back. 4 bar (FSR) is fun but the pedal efficiency on the VPP bikes are second to none. I ride my Uzzi once in a blue moon actually I am letting my friend use it until he buys his own bike. I rode the first gen spyder vpp and I end up buying a 5.5 and been riding that for the past 6 years or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eluv View Post
    DirtJunkie your first climb on a VPP you will never go back. 4 bar (FSR) is fun but the pedal efficiency on the VPP bikes are second to none. I ride my Uzzi once in a blue moon actually I am letting my friend use it until he buys his own bike. I rode the first gen spyder vpp and I end up buying a 5.5 and been riding that for the past 6 years or so.
    Thanks, Yeah I figured the climbing efficiency on the VPP would be better. But is there that MUCH of a difference. I guess the only way to prove it to myself would be to throw a leg over one. But I just love the way the 4 bar (FSR) does everything well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE, View Post
    Thanks, Yeah I figured the climbing efficiency on the VPP would be better. But is there that MUCH of a difference. I guess the only way to prove it to myself would be to throw a leg over one. But I just love the way the 4 bar (FSR) does everything well.
    Just picture a lighter bike with more travel, a plusher ride and pedal efficiency thats out of this world.

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    His and Her intense Rides

    Here are a few pics of my Uzzi SL and my wife's Tracer. We have been riding them together for about 8 years. I was very content with my Uzzi until i saw the blowout sale on the Tracers at Jenson. My new VP frame will be here tomorrow...
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    Congrats on the Tracer. Post pics when its done. That is a clean looking Uzzi SL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eluv View Post
    Congrats on the Tracer. Post pics when its done. That is a clean looking Uzzi SL.
    Thanks, it's been a great bike and seen a few upgrades over the years, but the frame has remained solid since day 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enduro203 View Post
    Thanks, it's been a great bike and seen a few upgrades over the years, but the frame has remained solid since day 1.
    Both bikes look sweet! and glad to see another SL still rocking the trails. Just curious on your input on switching to an air shock on the SL. I have thrown the idea around over the years but just love the liniar feel and less stiction of the vanilla RC coil that was standard issue for that frame. Although the air would save in weight and probably help in the climbing department, it would be nice to hear from someone who has made the switch BTW Congrats on your new purchase like eluv said post up some photos when done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE, View Post
    Both bikes look sweet! and glad to see another SL still rocking the trails. Just curious on your input on switching to an air shock on the SL. I have thrown the idea around over the years but just love the liniar feel and less stiction of the vanilla RC coil that was standard issue for that frame. Although the air would save in weight and probably help in the climbing department, it would be nice to hear from someone who has made the switch BTW Congrats on your new purchase like eluv said post up some photos when done.
    Thanks Dirt Junkie. I used a Pushed RP3 which shaved about a pound and I did notice some improvement in power to the ground on the climbs. There are plenty of 6.5 x 1.5 airs out there for cheap, or borrow one for a few days, it might be worth your while to experiment.

    The new VP build may take a few weeks. I am trying to generate some funds for a new fork. The frame purchase left me drained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enduro203 View Post
    Thanks Dirt Junkie. I used a Pushed RP3 which shaved about a pound and I did notice some improvement in power to the ground on the climbs. There are plenty of 6.5 x 1.5 airs out there for cheap, or borrow one for a few days, it might be worth your while to experiment.

    The new VP build may take a few weeks. I am trying to generate some funds for a new fork. The frame purchase left me drained.
    Sounds like a good idea I will have to keep my eyes open for a good deal on one. Sorry for the late response I have family from out of town visiting. And I haven't had time to get on this site for awhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enduro203 View Post
    Thanks Dirt Junkie. I used a Pushed RP3 which shaved about a pound and I did notice some improvement in power to the ground on the climbs. There are plenty of 6.5 x 1.5 airs out there for cheap, or borrow one for a few days, it might be worth your while to experiment.

    The new VP build may take a few weeks. I am trying to generate some funds for a new fork. The frame purchase left me drained.
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    mines a 2002... Took it up to Northstar yesterday, still an amazing bike!

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    And that is one of my hesitations in buying a new frame hence your purchase of the VP frame. If I were to shell out 2k on a new frame I still have the expense of the parts group. Even though all of my upgraded parts from my UZZI-SL will switch right over The expense of an additional 1 thousand to 15 hundred for a fork would kill me.
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    I managed to sell my uzzi frame and fork on ebay and found a new 2010 Fox Float 36 on Pinkbike for 500.00. The Jenson Tracer frame deal for 1200 was just too good to pas up. Even though they are listing them a 2009 models, mine was actually a late 2010 model. In all, I'll have less than 2k invested in essentially a new Tracer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enduro203 View Post
    I managed to sell my uzzi frame and fork on ebay and found a new 2010 Fox Float 36 on Pinkbike for 500.00. The Jenson Tracer frame deal for 1200 was just too good to pas up. Even though they are listing them a 2009 models, mine was actually a late 2010 model. In all, I'll have less than 2k invested in essentially a new Tracer.
    Cool! Just curious how much did you get for the UZZI-SL and fork?

    BTW MOOSEY, Sweet 2002 M-1 The master of disaster in the DH for many years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE, View Post
    Cool! Just curious how much did you get for the UZZI-SL and fork?
    The frame went for 250 and the fork for 180.
    I probably could have gotten more for both, but priced for a quick "Buy it Now" sale. Both went in one day. The headset and seat post have bids, but won't be done until tomorrow, so I'll have a little more for some spare parts to put in the camelbak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enduro203 View Post
    The frame went for 250 and the fork for 180.
    I probably could have gotten more for both, but priced for a quick "Buy it Now" sale. Both went in one day. The headset and seat post have bids, but won't be done until tomorrow, so I'll have a little more for some spare parts to put in the camelbak.
    Actually that's about what I would expect them to go for as a package deal. About $500 on the high end,.so it sounds like you did OK. Make sure to post up some shots up after the build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moosey View Post
    mines a 2002... Took it up to Northstar yesterday, still an amazing bike!

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    Anybody else still on a dinosaur of an Intense? Care to share it with us post it up. I'm out the door to fire up my old uzzi-sl.

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    These are my 2 oldies + 1 SS1

    I started off with a Uzzi SL back in 1998 and still have it assembled and ready to ride if needed. I will try to post a picture of it later. I built up a 2002 Tracer 3 years ago for a race and training bike. The tracer weighs about 23.5. I just rebuilt the 2000 Uzzi DH this year and using it as my All Mountain ride. I made a jump to the VPP side and got a 2009SS1 last year and its been a blast to ride.


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    Nice INTENSE museum you got going there dab. Its nice to see an old DH still shredding the trails. All updated parts on all even the Tracer,sweet. I see you are running the Joplin on all. I have one on my SL as well and love it. BTW post up some photos of your SL.

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    heres my three, no longer own them but i still had alot of fun on them when i did.

    a 1999 DH uzzi with the SP 12mm rear end on it, my first ever fully

    03 SLX uzzi in small, super fun bike but at the end of the day just to small for me.

    02 SLX uzzi in med, my last intense. a great do all bike, the one i miss the most.
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    Herb, what color is that SLX frame? That looks like the one I hade custom painted from Intense. DId it come with a 5th element with a TI spring?

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    The colour was gray which i didn't think was a custom colour. It did have a 5th on it when i got it but with a steel spring.

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    Nice rides Herb! Two
    So you sold them to Dougal who was recently asking for specs on the SLX?
    I love my SL but looking back I wish I had gone with the SLX. I think that bike can hang even by today's standards, don't you?

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    2002 intense uzzi sl?

    Hi, just wanted to ask a question about a guy who wants a trade. I have a 2006 trek 6500 disc ht and he has the intense, would this be a good trade for me and if so until what year did the uzzi sl's are made? Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amjp23 View Post
    Hi, just wanted to ask a question about a guy who wants a trade. I have a 2006 trek 6500 disc ht and he has the intense, would this be a good trade for me and if so until what year did the uzzi sl's are made? Thank you.
    I think if you traded for the SL you would be ripping him off. In otherwards jump on it before he changes his mind. The last year the UZZI-SL was made was 2002' but the 2001' was exactly the same except for the stickers.

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    Hi everybody, I bought this '99 Uzzi SL frame or better I guess it is a '99 frame.
    If your guys could look at it and confirm, would be great. I'm already buying a 130mm fork and want to build it up over the winter. Cubo
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE, View Post
    Nice rides Herb! Two
    So you sold them to Dougal who was recently asking for specs on the SLX?
    I love my SL but looking back I wish I had gone with the SLX. I think that bike can hang even by today's standards, don't you?

    Sold the red small 03 to deegals wife a few years ago after i found the grey med 02 replace it with. Rode the 02 for three odd years, beat the crap out of it and loved riding it till i had a go on a mates Gt sanction. Now i have a sanction and a short travel force.
    You could play around with the angles but the seat tube was to slack and the bb was to high for me with the 36s on it. Tried some 32s on it which lowered the bb and brought the seat tube to where i liked it but they just held the rest of the bike back when it got lumpy.
    So i do think with the new school geos that are popping up they are becoming a wee bit dated. But then i was every tempted to buy back the 02 when it came up for sale.

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    Looks like a great frame man, can't wait to see pics of it getting build up.
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    Rejuvinated SLX

    2001/2002 med SLX hopped up on rejuvination: I'm not one for dw links or vpp. 4 bar is better for the north shore.

    Took my "old" four bar intense and modded a couple of things that have been bugging me for a while. Made it into a new ride with geometry similar to the small sx trail frame for 09/10. Only difference is that the seat tube is interrupted and the BB is about 20mm higher. Not bad for an old lady.
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    Long chainstays always bugged me so I bought a drill press and a 10mm tap and went to work adding a third shorter chainstay position. Horst link bearing washers needed fitting and 180mm rotor is necessary but it feels so much better!
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    Crappy contaminated shock bushings also bugged me; RWC needle roller bearings are a must. 6mm hardware wasn't cutting it though so again with the drill press and tap: 8mm hardware makes it good now. RWC needle bearings are nice. Rear suspension is unbelievably active now. 4 bar rules!
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    Some things don't get older, they just get meaner.
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    OK, here's the thread I X-posted to above:

    I've loved the Uzzi SL since I first laid eyes on one.
    Several years ago I came on a chance to pick up a frameset on the cheap.
    I built it up as an AM ride, swapping in an inverted SLX shock link and longer Manitou Swinger Air mated to a Nixon for 5" F&R traveland rode it for a year or two:



    I decided it was due for a makeover so it was stipped down and sent to the powdercoater:




    A riding bud does die cut stickers and made me some sweet silver flake decals




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    Rode it for a year and decided it was time to upgrade the performance as well.
    I started by adding a Fox 36 Vanilla160 and did some measuring and plugged the numbers into the CAD to see the best way to get the rear to match the Fox's performance. A lot of trial and error finally led me to the best compromise. A 7.88 X 2.25 Fox DHX 3.0 mated to 6" links will net me a little over 6" of buttery smooth travel. A near perfect match for the front end.
    Headtube angle will be right at 67* with the ability to go up or down, depending on the rear shock lower mount choice.




    And here are the links:




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    Little hiccup; the Uzzi seat tower is too narrow for a modern coil shock. Had to mill out the inside rail and then box in the outside of it to gain back the lost strength. (yes, I've seen far better TIG work too, and no, I didn't weld it )
    Anyway, all assembled and initial backyard test ride has me very excited.
    Back end is extremely plush and seems to be a seamless match to the front.








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    Anybody else have an older INTENSE still in use? Care to share?

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    I'm finally getting around to building up the old Tracer frame I picked up. I'm taking frame apart to clean, lots of sand everywhere. What can I use to clean and then lube pivot points? There are no bearings but some orange "plastic" bushings. Also, can I just force the bushings out of their respective locations? Will I have a hard time putting them back in?

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    Do you have any pictures? I thought all of the old tracer frames had bearings at all of the pivots.
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    No pics but if you look at Akrull's 1st pic of his Uzzi SLX you can see them in the black rocker arm. I removed most of the sand and dirt and saw that there are bearings in there, embedded in the orange bushings. They are Enduro brand bearings P/N 608LLBMAX. I found another thread on here (MTBR) that had a link to online vendor for these bearings at $3 a piece, not bad. The bearing pulled/press tool set is over $200 though. I need to do more research to find better (read cheaper) way to pull and replace bearings. Thanks for reply.

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    Usually guys will manufacture bearing pullers and presses using sockets, long screws, nuts and washers. You can use the old bearing to help push the new one in. I haven't ever done this on an old intense but I have done it on an ellsworth and they should be pretty similar. The bearing is probably sitting against a shoulder, so make sure you pull them out and don't try to push them through. Hopefully someone with more experience with this frame will pipe up or maybe try in the Tool Time forum.
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    Are you talking about the bushings between the rear shock and the rocker arm?
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    Ummm, are there supposed to be bushings between rear shock and rocker arm? I bought frame for $100 with Fox rear shock. I'm not sure what parts have bushings and what parts have bearings. I'll take some pics tomorrow and post. I don't want to hijack this thread but there are so many knowledgeable folks on here. Maybe I'll start new thread and come back here to post link. Thanks for all the help.
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    I wanted to keep it here because of all the experts with older models. Can you guys comment on the bolts holding the rear shock in place. I know they aren't original. The bolts go through the aluminum mounting hardware (some call them bushings) attached to the rear shock. There is some play so I'll be looking for better fitting bolts. Should I lube between the bolt and the bore hole through the mounting hardware or can I line it with thin Teflon sheets that I have. Also, should there be washers between the backside of the pan head bolts and the bearings/orange bushings?

    Note that I took the bike apart to clean off all grease and sand/dirt. I put back together loosely to take pics. That's why all bolts seem to be sticking out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pomocanthus View Post
    I wanted to keep it here because of all the experts with older models. Can you guys comment on the bolts holding the rear shock in place. I know they aren't original. The bolts go through the aluminum mounting hardware (some call them bushings) attached to the rear shock. There is some play so I'll be looking for better fitting bolts.
    It looks like they are pretty wallowed out. You may have to drill out the holes to the next size bolt. If it's not too bad you can get away with only going to 1/4" (the OEM is 6mm). Also, swap all bolts to Allen heads (It's an Intense, not a Huffy ) and definitely use washers on all your bolts (with the exception listed below).

    Quote Originally Posted by pomocanthus View Post
    Should I lube between the bolt and the bore hole through the mounting hardware or can I line it with thin Teflon sheets that I have.
    I think you're talking about the bottom shock mount bolt, right?
    If so, that bolt should tighten hard on the shock mount shaft with no movement. You want that bolt to turn the link/shaft/link into one solid, unmoving part.
    The shock rotates on that shaft. The shaft doesn't move in the shock links.

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    Also, should there be washers between the backside of the pan head bolts and the bearings/orange bushings?
    No, the bolts tighten directly on the bearings with no washers. There should be small spacers on the other side; between the bearings and the seat stay & frame.
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    I have to believe that the slop you feel between the bolt and the shock spacers is due to the bolt being the wrong size rather then the spacers being warn out. Since the guy clearly didn't know what he was doing when he used a hex head bolt. If you think the spacers are bad though then you can replace them, they shouldn't be that hard to come by and you can do like Arkrull did and replace them with a RWC needle bearing kit. I think this is the page you need. Intense Suspension Pivot Bearing Kits from RWC but I would email RWC or talk to Arkrull before I ordered something blind. Of course I don't own a drill press so I am more likely to replace parts then try and manufacture my own.

    The other two holes in your link are mounting options that slightly change the geometry and travel of the bike. There is a post here somewhere that explains what the different holes are for the tracer but I have longs since loss the link. So once you have a allen head bolt you could see if one of the other two mountain options worked better for you. If you want to use the one you are using now you might be able to get away with putting a washer underneath the bolt to spread the load over the damaged area a bit.
    The orange cover you see on the bearings is actually a seal, and if you pry at them gently with a razor or exacto knife you can pry them off and refill the bearing with grease. If they roll smooth now though it is unnecessary but good to know for future reference.

    These are the bushings I thought you were talking about, they can wear out and cause some slope but it is sort of rare. If they are warn out then most or all of the red covering would be gone. The good news is your local bike shop should be able to replace them easily and it shouldn't cost too much money. Keep asking these questions and feel free to start a new thread. I guarantee you lots of folks have experience with older tracers that don't check this thread. Also you can just make it a "building and old tracer" thread and ask questions as you go. Can't wait to see the finished product.
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    Hi!

    I think the rear end of your Tracer is not in the condition it used to be. In the picture below it looks like the chainstay part are mounted upside down - you should read the USA sign from above and the bolt should be attached from the left side...


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    Thanks Roxtar and Bridgestone for all the good info. I promise there will be no hex bolt within a mile of this bike when finished. I am having trouble finding the right pan head bolt locally but I am sure I can find it somewhere online. The bushing on the bottom of the rear shock is worn; I can barely see a hint of orange\red. I'm gonna line it with thin sheet of Teflon temporarily. Nordstadt, good eye on chain stay. I wasn't sure but now I know ... USA up. Thanks again guys for all the help. I originally picked up this frame cause I was curious about Intense bicycles but wasn't gonna spend too much time or resources. But now I'm gonna take my time and do it right, if nothing else then out of respect for the brand. My current ride is a Kona Tanuki DL but maybe when I'm done with this Tracer, it will convince me to get a Tracer 2 or an Uzzi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pomocanthus View Post
    Thanks Roxtar and Bridgestone for all the good info. I promise there will be no hex bolt within a mile of this bike when finished. I am having trouble finding the right pan head bolt locally but I am sure I can find it somewhere online. The bushing on the bottom of the rear shock is worn; I can barely see a hint of orange\red. I'm gonna line it with thin sheet of Teflon temporarily. Nordstadt, good eye on chain stay. I wasn't sure but now I know ... USA up. Thanks again guys for all the help. I originally picked up this frame cause I was curious about Intense bicycles but wasn't gonna spend too much time or resources. But now I'm gonna take my time and do it right, if nothing else then out of respect for the brand. My current ride is a Kona Tanuki DL but maybe when I'm done with this Tracer, it will convince me to get a Tracer 2 or an Uzzi.
    The bushings are available at any bearing house for under $5 each. They're called DU bushings and for Fox shocks they're a 1/2" ID X 1/2" wide. Also, pretty much any bolt you need (and the DU bushings) are avail at McMaster Carr:

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    One thing to be aware of; Intense uses a mixture of metric and standard sized bolts. Everything that mates up to bike parts is metric, frame bolts are often standard.
    For instance, the four button head shock link bolts are most likely 5/16-18 thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nescafe View Post
    Great looking rides
    Where? 24 posts up.

    Just kidding! lets get back on topic.
    Vintage INTENSE are there anymore out there. I love checking them out. Care to share with us?
    BTW great info. on the pivots,bearings and bushings. $3.00 each really? Not bad actually.
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    Good job!

    What do ya'll think about a 2005 Marzocchi Drop Off Triple Fork on there? Is that way too much travel (170mm) for the frame? It looks kinda bad@$$ in my opinion but not sure how it'll ride. (I'm still waiting to get proper sized bolts so everything is still on loosely)
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    ^ Ditch that fork. Brother had one on his 2005 Stinky and it's a POS.
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    Really? I've seen reviews both ways and it seems like it just takes a lot of tweaking. I guess that's why buddy gave it to me for a beer.

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    Heres mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -jes View Post
    Hope Big Uns
    Love those hubs.
    Running one on the front of the white Uzzi SL a few posts up.
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    Found these old pics of my Uzzy SLX
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    '99 Uzzi SL suspension travel

    Quote Originally Posted by eluv View Post
    pomocanthus the rear travel on a uzzi sl is 4.75". I would use your leftover part and have fun. When i first purchased the bike I had a 100mm fork Manitou then I got a good deal on a 125mm Fox Talas and currently running a 130mm Z1. I would not go over 130mm. I hope this helps.
    eluv, I'm having trouble finding a 6.5" x 1.5" air shock, would the next size 7.5" x 2.0" fits well into a '99 Uzzi SL paired with an 130mm fork?
    thanks, Cubo

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    I haven't checked in here for awhile. Some nice older rigs still tearing up the trails. Anybody else care to contribute? I can't get enough of these old Intense bikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubo View Post
    eluv, I'm having trouble finding a 6.5" x 1.5" air shock, would the next size 7.5" x 2.0" fits well into a '99 Uzzi SL paired with an 130mm fork?
    thanks, Cubo
    It'll bring your BB up pretty high.
    If you do use that shock size, I'd recommend swapping to SLX shock links, run with the short side up (running to the seatstay), shock mounted in the lowest hole.
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    That Tazer looks great! I posted my 2001 Tazer FS rescued from the scrap heap over on this thread back in 2010 but sadly lost all my decent pics when fotopic went down. I managed to save this tiny one as a result of a google search . . .



    It was cracked around the shock mount gussets and also rewelded at both seat stays but I loved it to bits and rode it regularly (albeit carefully ), only selling it on when I managed to unearth a lovely raw Tazer VP. Now 6 Tazers later (sadly all sold on ) I've sourced another 2001 FS, this time in one piece and I can't flinkin' wait

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    Quote Originally Posted by mamadirt View Post
    That Tazer looks great! I posted my 2001 Tazer FS rescued from the scrap heap over on this thread back in 2010 but sadly lost all my decent pics when fotopic went down. I managed to save this tiny one as a result of a google search . . .



    It was cracked around the shock mount gussets and also rewelded at both seat stays but I loved it to bits and rode it regularly (albeit carefully ), only selling it on when I managed to unearth a lovely raw Tazer VP. Now 6 Tazers later (sadly all sold on ) I've sourced another 2001 FS, this time in one piece and I can't flinkin' wait

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    Cool!!
    And nice band by the way. I see your only jamming a 4pc. group. Have you been looking for a fifth? Possibly a keyboardist?
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    Dude, I'm in Illinois. The only place anyone would come from that would say this area is hilly is Kansas.

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    What are dimensions of rear shock on original Tracer? Those that have run fork 120mm or greater, did you experiment with different size rear shocks?

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    [QUOTE=pomocanthus;8929980]What are dimensions of rear shock on original Tracer? Those that have run fork 120mm or greater, did you experiment with different size rear shocks?[/QUOT

    Unless you are running an uzzi-sl link a stock older Tracer is meant for an 80 m.m. fork, 100 m.m. Max.
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    What are dimensions of rear shock on original Tracer? Those that have run fork 120mm or greater, did you experiment with different size rear shocks?[/QUOT

    Unless you are running an uzzi-sl link a stock older Tracer is meant for an 80 m.m. fork, 100 m.m. Max.
    Got it. Thx. Do you happen to know the eye to eye dimension and travel of stock rear shock for original Tracer?

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    Got it. Thx. Do you happen to know the eye to eye dimension and travel of stock rear shock for original Tracer?
    No! Sorry, I have the original Tracer sales broshure but it doesn't give that info. I don't own a Tracer hopefully someone can chime in with that info. for you.
    I can tell you geometry measurements if you need them.
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    New Rear Shock for Intense Tracer?

    This forum has it at 6.5 x 1.5. It was the best I could find on Google.
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    Thanks guys. Info on these classics are so hard to come by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mamadirt View Post
    . . . I've sourced another 2001 FS, this time in one piece and I can't flinkin' wait

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    It's arrived!!! and in pretty damn perfect condition for an 11 year old frame



    Spent most of Friday with a tin of polish and touch up paint and finished the build in time for the weekend.







    Had originally intended running the Fox Vanilla rear shock and swapping the Lyriks for something lighter but for the mo' I'm loving the burly Marz Roco/Lyrik combo.







    Ignore the quirky angle of the chainguide in that pic - a bit trial and error to get it positioned so that the chainstay wouldn't hit it on compression. All sorted now . . .



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    Mama Dirt I love that bike. Just curious about your crankset. Did you paint it red?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE, View Post
    Mama Dirt I love that bike. Just curious about your crankset. Did you paint it red?
    Cheers!

    No paint - the cranks are pewter Raceface Northshore 165s and the chainring is a Profile Racing red ano 34T.
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    Wow some killer rides guys. I always liked the SLX. and SL back in the day but never was able to get one. My buddy had the SLX and he loved it. Thanks for the memory s.

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    Hey nothing that some steelwool and a little elbow grease won't fix.
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    This is my second Uzzi SL - this one has a Tracer rear end. Long story, but it starts when my first Uzzi SL cracked at the 'seatube' weld (below the pivot 'knuckle')
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    This is my second Uzzi SL - this one has a Tracer rear end. Long story, but it starts when my first Uzzi SL cracked at the 'seatube' weld (below the pivot 'knuckle')
    Nice ride! You got me curious on that long story. And the fact that your frame cracked there. I've had my SL since new 02' and have never heard of any front triangle failures. A few rear triangle cracks but even that I have only heard of two. Were you jumping it? And this new setup with a Tracer rearend do you still get the 4.5" travel as an SL? I know it is popular for Tracer owners to opt for an SL rear for more travel but vice versa is a new one on me. You were forced go go that route I'm sure due to the lack of a available SL traiangles out there.
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    Dude, I'm in Illinois. The only place anyone would come from that would say this area is hilly is Kansas.

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    Can anyone comment, from experience, how these old Horst links compare to VPP and DW Link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harryschwatzman View Post
    This is my second Uzzi SL - this one has a Tracer rear end. Long story, but it starts when my first Uzzi SL cracked at the 'seatube' weld (below the pivot 'knuckle')
    Still waiting on that long story.
    Quote Originally Posted by NDD View Post
    Dude, I'm in Illinois. The only place anyone would come from that would say this area is hilly is Kansas.

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