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    Here's a very bad photo. The weld is cracked all around. I had noticed a creaking but it seems to have totally let go when I dropped off a curb. This frame gave me many years of faithful service, so I ain't mad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pomocanthus View Post
    Can anyone comment, from experience, how these old Horst links compare to VPP and DW Link.
    My well modified UZZI SL (SLX shock linkage and upper shock mount moved up an inch to accommodate a 7x2 Swinger Air shock) is still my AM bike of choice for daily riding. My XC race bike is a Fisher HiFi. Both are Horst Link bikes. I've ridden VPPs (no DWs) and would say that they do climb marginally better but in every other area, the Horst Link bikes still work as well and in some areas, even better.
    However, because the VPPs do climb so well, they can go with more travel and still pedal well.
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    Uzzi sl / 5.5

    This is my Uzzi sl and 5.5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brendan J View Post
    This is my Uzzi sl and 5.5
    That would make you the guy to ask about the differences.
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    The 5.5 is overall a better bike in my opinion. The Uzzi sl is super plush on the small bumps but bottoms easily on the big hits. The 5.5 is not as plush on the small bumps but resists bottoming more. The 5.5 also wins hand down in the pedaling efficiency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brendan J View Post
    The 5.5 is overall a better bike in my opinion. The Uzzi sl is super plush on the small bumps but bottoms easily on the big hits. The 5.5 is not as plush on the small bumps but resists bottoming more. The 5.5 also wins hand down in the pedaling efficiency.
    That's what I felt, but I wouldn't go so far as, "wins hands down".

    Also, the bottoming out thing is shock setup. The fact that your sl bottoms out means the rear is set a little too soft. This would also negatively affect your pedaling efficiency.
    I think if you worked on a little suspension tuning you'd be surprised how close your sl can get to your VPP. Maybe not AS good, but closer than you think.
    One more thing, switching to a rear platform air shock would be a huge eye opener. The sl works really well with these.
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    Nice rides Brendan. I've had my 5.5 since 07 and am thinking of trying out a T29er or a TB. Not many active threads on 29ers for Intense. Is that a sign?

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    Quote Originally Posted by roxtar View Post
    That's what I felt, but I wouldn't go so far as, "wins hands down".

    Also, the bottoming out thing is shock setup. The fact that your sl bottoms out means the rear is set a little too soft. This would also negatively affect your pedaling efficiency.
    I think if you worked on a little suspension tuning you'd be surprised how close your sl can get to your VPP. Maybe not AS good, but closer than you think.
    One more thing, switching to a rear platform air shock would be a huge eye opener. The sl works really well with these.
    Well I'm 205lbs and I don't recall ever bottoming out my SL. I run the stock FOX Vanilla RC coil. I'm sure after all these years both of my shock and fork could use an overhaul. But never a problem with bottoming out. FOX Vanilla RLC 125mm up front.

    So roxstar what platform air shock have you tried on an SL?
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    I've been using a Manitou Swinger 3way Air but just swapped in a FoxRP23.
    Was happy with the Swinger but figured I'd give the Fox a try.

    I've changed a few things on my SL, though. I went to an SLX shock linkage and then welded in new front shock mounts about an inch forward of the stock mount. This allowed me to use a 7.5x2 shock with the slx linkage without getting a crazy high BB. Mating a Marzocchi 55ATA160 fork to it gives me a nice 6" travel AM bike with a 15"BB and 67* head angle.
    Even with a bomber wheelset and big Schwalbe 2.4s it comes in at 31lbs

    And it still pedals like an SL.
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    [QUOTE=nordstadt;9311262]
    Great shot! What setting on the camera gives you that result?





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    [QUOTE=DIRTJUNKIE,;9438365]
    Quote Originally Posted by nordstadt View Post
    Great shot! What setting on the camera gives you that result?
    Photoshop...

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    My daily rider; UZzziSL on steroids

    Quote Originally Posted by nordstadt View Post
    Anybody else have an older INTENSE still in use? Care to share?
    I have a FR bike and an XC race rig but my '01ish Uzzi SL is my primary (AM) ride:









    I moved the upper shock mount 1" forward to allow me to fit a 7.75"x 2.25" Fox RL and then swapped in SLX shock links. With the 160mm Marzocchi 55 ATA, it's got 6" of F&R travel, a 69* head angle, a manageable 15.5" BB height, and weighs in just under 30lbs.
    Hadleys tied to WTB Frequency i23 rims with Schwalbe 2.4 RaRas
    Handles like, well, like an Uzzi.

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    Here's my recently finished Tazer. Rescued from the dead and turned into ex-team/prototype inspired play-bike. Huge fun to ride!
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    nice.

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    So how much travel in that configuration?
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    Quote Originally Posted by roxtar View Post
    My well modified UZZI SL (SLX shock linkage and upper shock mount moved up an inch to accommodate a 7x2 Swinger Air shock) is still my AM bike of choice for daily riding. My XC race bike is a Fisher HiFi. Both are Horst Link bikes. I've ridden VPPs (no DWs) and would say that they do climb marginally better but in every other area, the Horst Link bikes still work as well and in some areas, even better.
    However, because the VPPs do climb so well, they can go with more travel and still pedal well.
    I finally finish putting together the old Tracer. She looks great but rides terrible (there's a sexist joke in there somewhere). On high gear ratio, she rides OK but even on a slight incline and I am hammering away on lower gears I feel like I'm on a pogo stick. A couple of times after hitting modest bumps at moderate speed, I just about bounced off the bike. My Giant NRS and even my "faux" bar Kona rides MUCH better than this. Is this to be expected from an old bike or should I invest in Fox propedal offerings?
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    Quote Originally Posted by roxtar View Post
    My well modified UZZI SL (SLX shock linkage and upper shock mount moved up an inch to accommodate a 7.5x2 Swinger Air shock) is still my AM bike of choice for daily riding. My XC race bike is a Fisher HiFi. Both are Horst Link bikes. I've ridden VPPs (no DWs) and would say that they do climb marginally better but in every other area, the Horst Link bikes still work as well and in some areas, even better.
    However, because the VPPs do climb so well, they can go with more travel and still pedal well.
    Quote Originally Posted by pomocanthus View Post
    I finally finish putting together the old Tracer. She looks great but rides terrible (there's a sexist joke in there somewhere). On high gear ratio, she rides OK but even on a slight incline and I am hammering away on lower gears I feel like I'm on a pogo stick. A couple of times after hitting modest bumps at moderate speed, I just about bounced off the bike. My Giant NRS and even my "faux" bar Kona rides MUCH better than this. Is this to be expected from an old bike or should I invest in Fox propedal offerings?
    You'd be amazed at what a good platform shock will do.
    I just swapped the Swinger for an RP23 and it's even better.

    I also just got the frame back from anodizing:





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    Quote Originally Posted by roxtar View Post
    You'd be amazed at what a good platform shock will do.
    I just swapped the Swinger for an RP23 and it's even better.

    I also just got the frame back from anodizing:
    That orange anodize is great! Mind if I ask what it cost you? Did you sand blast frame yourself or had it done? That's a lot of prep work but I'm sure it's worth it. It looks amazing!

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    Anybody else have an older INTENSE still in use? Care to share?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pomocanthus View Post
    That orange anodize is great! Mind if I ask what it cost you? Did you sand blast frame yourself or had it done? That's a lot of prep work but I'm sure it's worth it. It looks amazing!
    Thanks, it was really simple. For $150 just send them the frame (It can have NO steel attached to it. Remove any steel bushings, races, whatever) and they strip all paint, powdercoat, or old anodize off it and anodize it.

    McNicholsAnodizing.com

    They do a great job.
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    My 2000 model , still rocks !!




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    Quote Originally Posted by Christ D View Post
    My 2000 model , still rocks !!



    Nice ride Christ D, Back in 2000' I was just entering the game. I narrowed the field down to 2 bikes. I was torn between the Intense Tracer in red exactly like yours or the top of the line GT an XCR-LE. I ended up withe the LE. I loved that bike it handled like a dream and with disc brakes which were in the infancy stage at the time weighed in at 26.5 lbs.

    Well I ended up cracking 2 of those frames in a year and a half time. GT warranted the first frame. But the second one I was SOL due to GT claiming bankruptcy. My bike shop stepped up and offered up a good size discount towards any other brand they carried. So I was then again looking at Intense. I was torn between the Tracer and the Uzzi-SL and the Uzzi-SLX. Having just went through hell cracking 2 lightweight. XC frames I leaned away from the Tracer. I ended up choosing the middle of the road. Not the lightweight Tracer or the burly SLX but rather I chose the Uzzi-SL in red of course.Guess what I have been on my 2001' Uzzi-SL since 2002' And she's still RockN. Love old Intense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE, View Post
    Nice ride Christ D
    Thanks !! I still hammer that thing , no issues so far. I bought the frame a couple of years ago from a guy in San Diego. Was a white and had it repainted in red wich was my favorite colour for the older Intense Tracer's. I really love , tho' it's getting old.

    Intense should do a special edition of the old Tracer .

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    Good choice in the repaint to original Intense Team Red. I bet I know your bike having lived in San Diego for numerous years. I remember a guy from San Diego with a white older Tracer who posted here back in the day. BTW I am still rocking a 2001' UZZI-SL which is red of course. A photo of which is in the first post of this thread. That is an old photo and all parts have been updated since.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE, View Post
    Good choice in the repaint to original Intense Team Red. I bet I know your bike having lived in San Diego for numerous years. I remember a guy from San Diego with a white older Tracer who posted here back in the day. BTW I am still rocking a 2001' UZZI-SL which is red of course. A photo of which is in the first post of this thread. That is an old photo and all parts have been updated since.
    Well , that guy became a good friend and took me on a roadtrip back in 2010 where i got to hammer his other black 2003 Tracer . Love that thing , Intense should do an anniversary edition of the old Tracer !

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    Is it worth it to put a new rear shock on the old Tracer frame and if so which shock works best?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo Grande' View Post
    Is it worth it to put a new rear shock on the old Tracer frame and if so which shock works best?

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    I'm very happy with the Fox Float with pro pedal , bought it new a couple of years ago when the frame was allready 9 years old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christ D View Post
    I'm very happy with the Fox Float with pro pedal , bought it new a couple of years ago when the frame was allready 9 years old.
    I built mine in 2001 and loved it, but after having our son I quit riding for several years. I know everything has changed but I can't swing a new bike right now. I don't want to be stupid and throw money into something that won't make any real difference. I still love my bike and I'm hoping I can "Freshen it up" a little bit and get a little more time and enjoyable miles out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo Grande' View Post
    I built mine in 2001 and loved it, but after having our son I quit riding for several years. I know everything has changed but I can't swing a new bike right now. I don't want to be stupid and throw money into something that won't make any real difference. I still love my bike and I'm hoping I can "Freshen it up" a little bit and get a little more time and enjoyable miles out of it.

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    I recently freshend mine up with some DT Swiss ,ZTR wheels that were on sale. No way i'm giving up on my Tracer. 12 years allready now. Do it Dan , you wont regret it. It's a great bike despite his age.

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    I found an RP23 for sale and bought it. Can't wait to take delivery and give it a ride.

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    I put the RP23 on and I love it! What a difference, even without switching over to the pro pedal it works much better. Now here's a question..........can you fit 650b/27.5's on the original Tracer frame? I rode my buddies Spesh 29'r for a couple hundred yards and couldn't believe how well it rolled through the river rock. Has anyone tried to put 27.5 on their 2001 Tracer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo Grande' View Post
    Now here's a question..........can you fit 650b/27.5's on the original Tracer frame? I rode my buddies Spesh 29'r for a couple hundred yards and couldn't believe how well it rolled through the river rock. Has anyone tried to put 27.5 on their 2001 Tracer?
    Doubt it.
    My UZZI SL is very tight (1/4" clearance) when running a 26x2.25 Rocket Ron on the rear. A 2.4 rubs.
    Another 3/4" of tire height would never fit.

    Pretty sure your Tracer seatstays are the same as the UZZI's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roxtar View Post
    Doubt it.
    My UZZI SL is very tight (1/4" clearance) when running a 26x2.25 Rocket Ron on the rear. A 2.4 rubs.
    Another 3/4" of tire height would never fit.

    Pretty sure your Tracer seatstays are the same as the UZZI's.
    I agree there is no way that you would fit a taller wheel. Oh and in case you were wondering about fitting a bigger tire on your UZZI-SL the answer is yes. I run a 26x2.35 Nevegal on my 01' UZZI-SL. And yes the clearance is a tight 1/8" but I have been running that size for several years with no problems. It would definitely let you know if your wheel was out of true.
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    Well it's too freaking cold to ride here at 15°. So I'm wasting time on this site and as I sit here I have a complete view of my old UZZI-SL. It brought to mind this thread and how many cool old Intense bikes are still out there. Anybody care to share a photo or two of some older rides. Because "Man that was Intense".
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE, View Post
    Well it's too freaking cold to ride here at 15°. So I'm wasting time on this site and as I sit here I have a complete view of my old UZZI-SL. It brought to mind this thread and how many cool old Intense bikes are still out there. Anybody care to share a photo or two of some older rides. Because "Man that was Intense".
    How about an update?
    Here is my '01 Uzzi SL, modified to give 6" F&R travel: Man that was Intense.

    And an update:






    Had it stripped down and annodized. A buddy did the die cut stickers.
    Also, swapped in a PUSHed RP23 and am planning to swap the Marz 55 for an X-Fusion Vengeance which will drop it under 30lbs.
    I love this bike. With the 65* headtube angle it descends like a monster and still pedals like an Intense.
    Looking for an Enduro to race this in. I would love to see if I can be competitive on a 12 year old frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roxtar View Post
    How about an update?
    Here is my '01 Uzzi SL, modified to give 6" F&R travel: Man that was Intense.

    And an update:






    Had it stripped down and annodized. A buddy did the die cut stickers.
    Also, swapped in a PUSHed RP23 and am planning to swap the Marz 55 for an X-Fusion Vengeance which will drop it under 30lbs.


    I love this bike. With the 65* headtube angle it descends like a monster and still pedals like an Intense.
    Looking for an Enduro to race this in. I would love to see if I can be competitive on a 12 year old frame.
    That is sweet, good job! It's the same year as my SL. Did you use an SLX link? You can check mine out in my profile. The SL is a great handling bike in stock form. I'm running FOX Vanilla RLC 125 fork and a FOX Vanilla RC shock. So it's a 5" bike which is enough for me, but I wouldn't mind trying running that extra inch like yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE, View Post
    That is sweet, good job! It's the same year as my SL. Did you use an SLX link? You can check mine out in my profile. The SL is a great handling bike in stock form. I'm running FOX Vanilla RLC 125 fork and a FOX Vanilla RC shock. So it's a 5" bike which is enough for me, but I wouldn't mind trying running that extra inch like yours.
    Yup, swapped in the SLX links and then changed the shock frame mount to fit the longer shock.
    Here is a link to that change:Man that was Intense.
    This gives me geometry from 64* and 14" BB to 66* and 15.5" BB, depending on which rear shock hole I use.

    Love your Uzzi, dropper post is the one thing I plan to add to mine.
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    Frame crack

    So my 2001 Tracer frame is finally cracking at the top of the seat mast. Has anyone found a good fix for this or am I done riding for a few months?

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    Well you would have to get it welded. Seems like I saw someone on this site have it done. The last version of the frame was re-enforced in that area.
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    Be somewhat careful with it afterward, though. Welding it will remove the heat treating in that area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo Grande' View Post
    So my 2001 Tracer frame is finally cracking at the top of the seat mast. Has anyone found a good fix for this or am I done riding for a few months?
    Rojo, what's the update with your Tracer. Did you have it welded?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    Rojo, what's the update with your Tracer. Did you have it welded?
    Nope, I bought a new to me used 2010 Tracer VPP. I'm not sure if I want to have the old bike welded before I try to sell it or let the buyer see what is cracking and let them make their own decision? I love my new VPP though!

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    New question here.

    I replaced the Vanilla R on my Uzzi SL and gave an RP2 a try but didn't find the right pressure yet. I'm now at ≈17bar (240-250psi) weighting 90kg (≈200lbs) at moment and sag is still over 30% (≈0.45").
    On the other bike I run a RP23 with more travel (7.875” x 2.00”) at 12bar (≈175psi).
    I was told by a suspension guy that depending of frame geo the pressure can vary a lot...
    Does anybody has the the same experience?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubo View Post
    I replaced the Vanilla R on my Uzzi SL and gave an RP2 a try but didn't find the right pressure yet. I'm now at ≈17bar (240-250psi) weighting 90kg (≈200lbs) at moment and sag is still over 30% (≈0.45").
    On the other bike I run a RP23 with more travel (7.875” x 2.00”) at 12bar (≈175psi).
    I was told by a suspension guy that depending of frame geo the pressure can vary a lot...
    Does anybody has the the same experience?
    Many things determine the amount of pressure needed in a shock. The leverage ratio of the suspension design is the biggest but there are many others.
    I went to a 160mm travel fork on my SL which slackened my head angle. This put more weight bias toward the rear, changing the air pressure. I changed to longer shock links and it had a huge effect on the air pressure. A switch to the high volume air can in my RP23 made another big change.
    That's why it's impossible to accurately say how much pressure is needed when changing anything, frame-wise.
    It's also why shock tuning is far more art than science.
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    I'm wondering if the pressure close to the upper limit, can affect shock's performance.

    I agree with the 160mm travel fork experience; I bought my Uzzi an 130mm DT Swiss XMM fork and now I feel that 120mm could have been the better solution...

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    This Uzzi Sl still loves to shred
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubo View Post
    I'm wondering if the pressure close to the upper limit, can affect shock's performance.

    I agree with the 160mm travel fork experience; I bought my Uzzi an 130mm DT Swiss XMM fork and now I feel that 120mm could have been the better solution...
    When I say it slackened the head angle I wasn't complaining. It was a great change that gave it a far more modern feel to the handling. Couple that to the longer rear shock links, longer travel rear shock, and changing the upper shock mount location (bringing the BB back to an acceptable height) and it's now a true 5"+ travel AM beast at just a hair under 30lbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RIDE-ON View Post
    This Uzzi Sl still loves to shred
    Nice photo of the "bike"
    That frame is a 2002' the last year for the UZZI-SL. Same ride as mine and still shredding.
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    Any more older Intense rides out there?
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