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    M9 Fro

    Here it is, with yellow links!!!!
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    M9

    Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!

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    M9 fro beauty shots

    some cool photos from the development of the M9, more to come.
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    HOLY CR@P!! Damn that is Purrrty nice!!! I just ordered the 951! LOL I will hope to see this at Interbike! Maybe.... If it shows up..

    Nice work guys!!

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    I love this bike... Need one pronto!

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    when will it be available and what price will it be?

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    It looks like my M6 will be going up for sale this winter

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    October 2010, USD 2999 with RC4 and Cane Creek Angleset

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christiaan
    October 2010, USD 2999 with RC4 and Cane Creek Angleset

    that'll mean crazy prices in the UK.

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    It is cheaper then the M6 was, hopefully cRC will do a good price on them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christiaan
    It is cheaper then the M6 was, hopefully cRC will do a good price on them

    fingers crossed. I'm looking for a new DH bike...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by stumo
    fingers crossed. I'm looking for a new DH bike...........
    951 for teh win

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    my new bikkkkkkeee. i love it

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    Quote Originally Posted by goog
    951 for teh win
    but maybe a M9 iz teh winneh!

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    Fricken AWESOME looking machine!

    I've been waiting on this a while.

    I do have two concerns/questions for any one who has the insight. That shock is gonna get hammered with crap off the tire. Why no fender? The V10 is looking sweet in that department.

    The back wheel in the complete bike pic looks close to the bottom link and it is only in the middle G3 setting. I hope it will work in the short setting with a 2.5 tire.
    I was bummed when I could not use my 951 in the short setting with a full 2.5 DH tire. I was wanting the shorter CS and slacker HA with the angleset but could not do it because the tire hits the brace. WTF? Then I saw this coming along and thought my dreams may be answered!! That pic has got me worried. Really, why bother having that setting if you can not run it with a downhill tire? Is it "freeride" setting and makes you use a smaller tyre for pedal efficiency....on a WC racebike?? Maybe I am worried about nothing and this has already been considered. Does anyone know if there is enough clearance back there on the M9 for the short setting and DH beef?
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    Beautiful!

    How does this compare to the 951 in terms of capability, intended use etc?

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    Ragot just took the WC win on the M9 FRO

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    Great job Jeff!
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    And great photographyas well, as usual.
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    Get your penny's saved! Was lucky enough to have a spin on Mr simmonds M9. Very nice indeed. Not sure about tire clearance as it was on the middle setting. Would make a nice Christmas present to yourself!
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    a question for jeff/stick...

    Why on the M9 did you forgo the box section cross brace on the swingarm as used on the 951 and SS2 and go back to the machined "H" plate as in previous generation M's...? I can't tell for sure on any of the pictures except for the "up the skirt" shot in the press release, but it looks as if you went with the older design. Personally, I found that the box cross brace made a HUGE difference in lateral stiffness.
    there is unrest in the forest. there is trouble with the trees.

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    The rear shock is going to take a beating by rocks and mud.

    Looks like the rear tire will rub the link in the short G3 setting. I know my 951 frame rubs the rear Muddy Marry 2.35 or a Minion 2.5 in the short G3 setting. Hopefully there is more clearance on the M9.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kntr
    The rear shock is going to take a beating by rocks and mud.

    Looks like the rear tire will rub the link in the short G3 setting. I know my 951 frame rubs the rear Muddy Marry 2.35 or a Minion 2.5 in the short G3 setting. Hopefully there is more clearance on the M9.

    It won't surprise me if the trye rubs

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    Jeff, any plans on implementing a carbon fiber fender; (similar to the V-10's), to keep the muck off the linkage???
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    jeff, any chance you could get ahold of the reach / stack measures for the new bike? it looks sick, but I definitely wanna know about sizing.

    on a similar thread, will there be any changes in sizing? I love how the M6 rides, but the bike is just too short for me. an extra .5-.75" of reach on the large would make life amazing.

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    I'm ready to put my order, but what colors for the M9? Apple Green, chrome blue, tangerine orange or gold? Don´t know... Can you please post pics of the frame in diferent colors?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryguy17
    jeff, any chance you could get ahold of the reach / stack measures for the new bike? it looks sick, but I definitely wanna know about sizing.

    on a similar thread, will there be any changes in sizing? I love how the M6 rides, but the bike is just too short for me. an extra .5-.75" of reach on the large would make life amazing.
    We will be publishing some more detailed geo charts soon with stack & reach and tuning numbers achievable with the adjustments the M9 offers. One of the areas we spent time improving on the m9 was the rider positioning ( weight Bias) and the medium is now about 1/2" longer reach.

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    Nice self-portrait, Mr. Steber
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr intense
    We will be publishing some more detailed geo charts soon with stack & reach and tuning numbers achievable with the adjustments the M9 offers. One of the areas we spent time improving on the m9 was the rider positioning ( weight Bias) and the medium is now about 1/2" longer reach.
    good to hear , looking forward to the updated geos

    I'm gonna be in the market towards the end of the year, and I could definitely keep riding an intense

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    Will a Minion 2.5 rub in the short G3 setting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kntr
    Will a Minion 2.5 rub in the short G3 setting?
    That must be rhetorical. Why would any manufacture make a DH frame that would not fit the most popular DH tire on the planet.

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    what colors will have the m9 do you can tell us??

    Quote Originally Posted by mr intense
    We will be publishing some more detailed geo charts soon with stack & reach and tuning numbers achievable with the adjustments the M9 offers. One of the areas we spent time improving on the m9 was the rider positioning ( weight Bias) and the medium is now about 1/2" longer reach.
    what colors will have the m9 do you can tell us??

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    what colors will have the m9 do you can tell us??

    Quote Originally Posted by sticarl
    Here it is, with yellow links!!!!
    what colors will have the m9 do you can tell us??

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    what colors will have the m9 do you can tell us??

    Quote Originally Posted by mr intense
    some cool photos from the development of the M9, more to come.
    what colors will have the m9 do you can tell us??

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    Quote Originally Posted by burke ryder
    That must be rhetorical. Why would any manufacture make a DH frame that would not fit the most popular DH tire on the planet.

    ummmm because that same combo on a 951 in the short G3 setting rubs. As a matter of fact it hit so hard on my buddies 951 the rear tire hardly rolled when you pushed the bike. Lastly, the tire rubs on the M6 as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bestiufulo
    what colors will have the m9 do you can tell us??
    and this is what's really important for some visitors here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwdrums00
    ummmm because that same combo on a 951 in the short G3 setting rubs. As a matter of fact it hit so hard on my buddies 951 the rear tire hardly rolled when you pushed the bike. Lastly, the tire rubs on the M6 as well.
    I like my uzzi vp in the short setting and the minion was going to be the next rear. Hope it will be OK.

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    What happened to the M2, M4, M5, M7, and the M8? Now we have the M9? Hell, I'm still riding my 2003 M1. Guess I better pull out the wallet!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by burke ryder
    That must be rhetorical. Why would any manufacture make a DH frame that would not fit the most popular DH tire on the planet.
    Like explained above...
    The Minion 2.5 and Muddy Mary 2.35 rub in the G3 short setting. You have to run it in the middle setting and it still is SUPER close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bestiufulo
    what colors will have the m9 do you can tell us??
    Stock colors will be Intense red, works raw, and a new chrome black.

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    Jeff in action....
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    I ordered mine today. But i am not so sure about which shock to take? Rc4or ccdb? Ccdb really worth the Upgrade Price? In this special vpp2 case?
    Dirtmag Said something about really worth riding ccdb in a single pivot. Does it make a big difference?
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    There is with out a doubt the CCDB is worth it.

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    I agree~
    Quote Originally Posted by Dwdrums00
    There is with out a doubt the CCDB is worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dopaminer
    Id like to but my PUSHed Roco on my 951 feels so good. Im going to send it to Avalanche this winter and give it a shot.

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    Fresh M9

    Fresh M9 , just finished up some pre production for Crankworx, I will have some smal & large pics soon.
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    you guys nailed the graphics on this one... fooking nailed it.
    there is unrest in the forest. there is trouble with the trees.

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    I have absolutely no need for one. But I really want one.

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    Any chance of some pics of a built Raw and Chrome black one, or at least ready frames? Would like to see if I should get a standard color, or just get a custom color right away

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    Looking to upgrade my Socom over the winter. I was originally thinking 951 and going for a build around 38 lbs.

    Just wondering what would be the advantage of the M9 over the 951? I ride BC/Alberta Canada so we def. have some gnarly/technical trails, but coming from the Socom, the M9 almost seems like overkill? The 951 would be a little lighter and a little more efficient for pedaling... so its hard to see the major benefit of the M9.

    That said... the M9 raises the bling factor pretty high.

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    There's gotta be a mile of weld on that frame!
    Beyoootiful stuff.
    Expected shipping dates?
    I don't think its a matter of "if" but "how soon"

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    Is the 951 going away, I just found a smokn deal on one?
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    Nice looking bike!! Too bad I can't use one of those where I live

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    rear shock

    Is the shock the same size as the M6?

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    Quote Originally Posted by P51
    Is the shock the same size as the M6?
    No, M6 is 10.5 x 3.5, M9 is 9.5 x 3.0

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    holy god damn christ god that is freakin sweet

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    If Banshee didn't hook me up with a Legend I would DEFINITELY be on one of these....

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    Small m9 in jig

    Grabbed this shot while making preproduction small M9s, small is about 3/4"lower TT than Med.
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    Any chance of a pic of a bakced Works medium and a Chrome black?

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    Chrome black....ohh, it will be beautiful with my Gold Chris King hubs,...and perhaps an CCDB.

    This frame will be available with this Shock or only with the RC4 ?
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    Chrome Black. Going to pay the extra 200 for the stealth black. Seems backwards
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intenseman
    Chrome black....ohh, it will be beautiful with my Gold Chris King hubs,...and perhaps an CCDB.

    This frame will be available with this Shock or only with the RC4 ?
    Can get the CCDB. Think it was another 250 with a steel spring.

    Not sure if ur Chris King hubs will work. Need 150X12 spacing

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    Why is the Static BB measurement so tall...14.3"? I hope the real world number are much lower!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Descent 5.75
    Not sure if ur Chris King hubs will work. Need 150X12 spacing
    my rear hub is on 150X12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwdrums00
    Why is the Static BB measurement so tall...14.3"? I hope the real world number are much lower!
    Cause people whine about the low BB all the time. They want an all mountain M9!!

    I would like to see 13.7856 BB.... if you know what I mean!!

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    The BB numbers were with a 580mm AC like the Zokes the team runs, it is easy to get the BB down to 14" with lower AC heights. The team guys have been running a bit higher this year with the courses on the circuit and they feel like they can pedal more of the rough stuff and not going through so many pedals & cranks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr intense
    The BB numbers were with a 580mm AC like the Zokes the team runs, it is easy to get the BB down to 14" with lower AC heights. The team guys have been running a bit higher this year with the courses on the circuit and they feel like they can pedal more of the rough stuff and not going through so many pedals & cranks.
    If I could change one thing about my M6, that's what it would be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr intense
    The BB numbers were with a 580mm AC like the Zokes the team runs, it is easy to get the BB down to 14" with lower AC heights. The team guys have been running a bit higher this year with the courses on the circuit and they feel like they can pedal more of the rough stuff and not going through so many pedals & cranks.
    Mr Intense... Point well taken; however, my hope is the higher BB with the M9 doesn't sacrifice the cornering ability of the M6... which was/is probably the best cornering DH bike around for a variety of reasons (leverage curves, pivot points, axle paths, COG....etc.) but far too technical for this discussion.

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    'Tentense...or Intenseman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Descent 5.75
    Chrome Black. Going to pay the extra 200 for the stealth black. Seems backwards


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    was wondering, in some pics the head tube has two pinch bolts (top and bottom) and some pics it has just a pinch bolt on the top?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intenseman


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    Thats killer. Been wondering what the build was going to look like with the Mavics on the black frame. Thanks.

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    Intense Red with black Fox 40 & "Classique" Grey Deemax



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    Quote Originally Posted by mr intense
    Grabbed this shot while making preproduction small M9s, small is about 3/4"lower TT than Med.
    Stealth black in my proto jig
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr intense
    Stealth black in my proto jig

    WOW!! She's a thing of beauty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr intense
    Stealth black in my proto jig
    Personally like it better without the sticker kit. Shows the work you have put into the design. Beautiful.

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    Anyone notice that no matter how you photoshop the parts and colors around, the new M9 makes it all look and work right?
    It's just so damn well thought out and performance driven its scary.
    And I love me a mile of perfect aluminum weld...

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    Stealth Black medium

    Grabbed a few quick shots before this one shipped out
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    Stealth Black ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr intense
    Grabbed a few quick shots before this one shipped out
    Thanks Mr Intense... Awesome bike!

    By any chance do you have pictures of a white one?
    I love the 951 in white and I would like to see the M9 in white to help me to make a decision.

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    as much as I love seeing pictures of your frame jeff, I still gotta wonder, have you gotten anywhere on the updated geo specs? the frame looks killer for sure, but sadly I'll have to pass if the reach isn't long enough...

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    @MR Intense:
    Why do you only use a pinch bold on the top side of the head tube? i saw some of the M6 evo and 951 protos using one one the the top, one on the down side of the head tube?

    does it mean you need still need a headset press for the installment?

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    M9 with no Welds ....heuuu....M9 with Polished welds



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    Quote Originally Posted by Intenseman
    M9 with no Welds ....heuuu....M9 with Polished welds

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    waaay too much time on your hands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MR_ED
    @MR Intense:
    Why do you only use a pinch bold on the top side of the head tube? i saw some of the M6 evo and 951 protos using one one the the top, one on the down side of the head tube?

    does it mean you need still need a headset press for the installment?
    The info on this is out there:

    the bike was initially designed for the head angle to be independently adjustable thus requiring the pinch bolt style headtube. But this was before the angleset came out. The angleset means pinch bolts arent really required at all, but they stuck with it on the top to make changing out the top cup much easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EF76
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    Can one of you photoshoppers put McLaren colors on it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by IntenseMack10
    The info on this is out there:

    the bike was initially designed for the head angle to be independently adjustable thus requiring the pinch bolt style headtube. But this was before the angleset came out. The angleset means pinch bolts arent really required at all, but they stuck with it on the top to make changing out the top cup much easier.
    This is true , The team ran a system that we made in house that you needed two cups top & bottom to change plus or minus. The Angleset (comes with the frameset with 0,.5 & 1 degree cups) only needs the top cup to change or rotate so we saved some weight by removing the pinch bolt from the bottom cup. The bottom cup is installed conventionally & you can still run any headset of your choice with this.

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    i did not find anything about the frame´s weight?
    are there any infos available yet? in comparison to the m6? lighter or heavier? mr intense?

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    Are they available in blue? and are the links black

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    Will it eff'n print money?

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    I've been so excited about this bike for a while. I've wanted a 951 and I was waiting time since I knew a new bike would be soon. Its finally here! Anyone order one yet, and even a price? I'm planning on getting a white frame.

    Also small question for anyone on 951/M6 and ordering an M9... I'm 6'0" and I cant figure if I should get a medium or a large for the M9. I've always had Mediums on my downhill bikes, and I sold my DH bike a few years back and switched on a bullit and I decided that I need a new DH bike.

    Thanks!

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    Yo Jeff,

    Got a question for you....

    How wide is the bushing hardware on each end of the shock? I'm wondering as I'd like to run the Enduro Needle Bearings on both ends and I'm hoping it's one of the standard sizes that Enduro offers.... 30mm/35.5mm/40mm width?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Intenseman
    M9 with no Welds ....heuuu....M9 with Polished welds



    Photoshop...of course
    Nice work.

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    Hi Jeff,

    Me too got a question for you....

    This time the stickers are the same for all frames in any color?
    If I wanted the M9 white ( Like E.Ragot ) with RED stickers ( like my 951 ), it would be possible or b&w all this time?

    tnx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardrock05
    Just wondering what would be the advantage of the M9 over the 951? I ride BC/Alberta Canada so we def. have some gnarly/technical trails, but coming from the Socom, the M9 almost seems like overkill? The 951 would be a little lighter and a little more efficient for pedaling... so its hard to see the major benefit of the M9.
    I'm in the same boat, and I don't race.

    Just have a preference for DH over FR and ride mainly lift accessed bike parks. Preferring gnarly natural rough singletrack over smooth jump lines but still ride both.

    I think the sheer adjustability of travel, BB, HA and travel path is something you can totally dial in, if you are really into that much detail and personal tuning.

    Do I need one... no.

    Do I want one ? Sure.

    Would I enjoy one and get more out of my riding...definitely.

    But the reality (should we choose to accept it) is a 951 at 8.5" travel is probably more than capable of handling what we both throw at a DH bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr intense
    This is true , The team ran a system that we made in house that you needed two cups top & bottom to change plus or minus. The Angleset (comes with the frameset with 0,.5 & 1 degree cups) only needs the top cup to change or rotate so we saved some weight by removing the pinch bolt from the bottom cup. The bottom cup is installed conventionally & you can still run any headset of your choice with this.
    so theres is no 1,5° cup included in the package? I think it would be nice for people running shorter A-to-C lengths as this should should steepen HA, right? What do I need if I want this 1,5 option?Can i buy e upper cup (the golden one) as a spare part , i am a little confused?

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