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    Quote Originally Posted by squiby View Post
    Does anyone know the actual torque specs from Intense on the new lower pivots?

    I just threw the new link on my old SS1. Betterer system IMO. Used the Santa Cruz torque specs but I don't want to assume they are correct before I take it out for a little abuse.

    Edit: (to keep it on topic) I have another new link to throw on my M9 next.
    I may have spoke too soon.

    When I tested with my flex meter (grabbed the seat and wheel and pulled in opposite directions) it was WAY flexier than with the original link. Almost felt like it had play. I took the cone out and torqued the pivot bolt to about 90 In lb. That has the bike close to the flex I had with the original link.... maybe a little flexier....hard to tell with out a side by side comparison.

    Is that too much preload on the bearings? Or can i go more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by downplease View Post
    I've just put the new hardware and bearings in and it feels like the rear end moves side to side at least as much if not more than it did with the old hardware.
    So i'm curious to know how your M9 with the new bolts and bearings feels, does the rear end still move side to side as much as it did before? Also have you compared your updated M9 with one from the factory to see if they feel the same? Does a V10 have this much side to side movement? I really want to know if I put something in wrong or didn't torque it properly or if this movement is normal?
    downplease, did you remedy this issue? Im wondering if the torque specs from Santa Cruz are off for the Intense link or if it was something else.

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    edit: just called Intense instead of beating around the bush and guessing
    60 in/lbs for the pivot axle and 125 in/lbs for the cone bolt

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadatbirth View Post
    edit: just called Intense instead of beating around the bush and guessing
    60 in/lbs for the pivot axle and 125 in/lbs for the cone bolt
    Ha, sniped! I just did the same thing.

    They also said you could apply a little more torque on the pivot axle that is preloading the bearing as long as it is not too notchy, and then check the torque once it beds in. Kinda like a headset. That is what I had already done to get the rear of the SS back to the original state of noodleness. I was hoping the new link would help it in the stiffness department but I don't notice any improvement, even with the shiny new stuff placebo effect. Oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8664 View Post
    One of the nicest looking DH rigs I've seen posted in a while.
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    thanks!!
    Saturday i change to my long expected fox 40 2012 white!!

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    got new bearings and link installed finally. pressing them in straight was a bit of a PITA but i figured something out in the end.
    of course after i put everything together, i find out that the new box link's shock mount is a hair bigger then the offset flip chip causing a bunch of play just as i fix one problem, another arises.
    my shock also must has puked up some oil from the last ride too. fvck me

    its hard to tell how much grease you need in the cavities so i just put a ton of Red Devil grease in there


    edit: Intense is sending new off-set flip chips to see if that will solve the problem....crossing my fingers


    heres some pics if anyone was interested

    i used a 5mm nut driver to knock the bearings out




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    So is it just with the offset chips and fine with the 9 inch one? Mine is tight but I haven't tried the offset chip with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimarin View Post
    So is it just with the offset chips and fine with the 9 inch one? Mine is tight but I haven't tried the offset chip with it.
    the centered flip chips are significantly worse.

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    Make sure your shock reducers are pressed in firmly. It may also help if you file them down slightly (to make sure the bolt is clamping the chips tightly in the link!).

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    theres nothing wrong with the reducers or bushings. you can see the flip chips moving around in the box link.
    the shock is off to QBP now anyway since the seal head is leaking

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    Done.
    Last edited by 8664; 12-25-2011 at 12:36 AM.

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    I'm considering picking up a 2012 M9 some time in the near future but would like to know what the changes from 2011-2012 are to the frame. I am assuming that the linkage update is standard now. Also I am assuming it is still available with either the DHX RC4 (Kashima?) or the CCDB. Am I correct? Anything else I should know about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbnozpikr View Post
    I'm considering picking up a 2012 M9 some time in the near future but would like to know what the changes from 2011-2012 are to the frame. I am assuming that the linkage update is standard now. Also I am assuming it is still available with either the DHX RC4 (Kashima?) or the CCDB. Am I correct? Anything else I should know about?
    yes the link update is now standard.
    i prefer the rc4 over the ccdb. i dont like the the "low and higspeed"
    rebound system!!
    and go with the 2012 fox 40!!!
    cheers and let us see your beast...

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    Box Link Change

    Tools you need, easy Job. i make it all up side done...
    need a 1/4 tube lube for refuel the bearings..
    and the flip chip for 9.5inch work perfect in the new box link..
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    I have read that the MRP G2 is the only guide (outside of the SRAM guide which I don't know much about) that will fit the M9. I have an e13 LG1+ and would like to use it if possible. I have seen a few throughout the thread with LG1+ guides on but am wondering if there is anything I should know about installing them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbnozpikr View Post
    I have read that the MRP G2 is the only guide (outside of the SRAM guide which I don't know much about) that will fit the M9. I have an e13 LG1+ and would like to use it if possible. I have seen a few throughout the thread with LG1+ guides on but am wondering if there is anything I should know about installing them.
    I had an E13 LG1+ 32-36 on my M9, ith saint cranks, fitted ithout problems, perfect fit

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    lg1 with descendant crank nondrive 1 spacer drive side 2 spacers under the lg1 the fat spacer + the half from the fat spacer.

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    Using a SRS with e13 DH cranks and previously saint cranks, both fitted fine. Loads of pictures of M9s on pinkbike.com with all manner of guides if you want to check

    And for what it's worth Im not a massive fan of the CCDB either. Order without a shock and get a BOS Stoy. I have one on my SS1, it's witchcraft.

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    Great, thanks for the help guys.
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    your welcome! a friend have it in works gold, killa to!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadatbirth View Post

    below.
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    for me they are wrong, left 1 right 2

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    zero issues with chain line with this setup on my small cassette. the SRS+ is spaced out with the thinner of the two spacers behind the back plate. on all my other DH bikes thats used RF cranks, ive used this setup....cant remember how my MRP were though.
    RF certainly doesnt make setting up chain line easy by putting a stupid amount of loctite on the shell

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    i use E13 Lg1 with truvativ, but never see left 2 spacers!
    sorry but instal, like it is before...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8664 View Post
    sorry but instal, like it is before...
    im sorry, no

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    deadatbirth: Is it just me or do you have the configuration of the 2.5mm BB spacers wrong?

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    It's interesting that Pinkbike wrote in their review about the compatibility of chainguides with the M9. I was just surfing around and ran into a picture of Chris Kovarik with an M9 (CRC build) and clearly there's an e13 LG1+ stocked. Now I just need a frame and I'm good to go.
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    I have a brand new M9 frame and a brand new e13 LG1+ 36-40t guide and the fit is not very good. I think the LG1+ guide's that people are mounting are either modified to fit, or they're using the smaller 32-36t guide. I'm probably going to return the LG1 and try to find an MRP/SRAM guide since they apparently fit better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bnorthro View Post
    I have a brand new M9 frame and a brand new e13 LG1+ 36-40t guide and the fit is not very good. I think the LG1+ guide's that people are mounting are either modified to fit, or they're using the smaller 32-36t guide. I'm probably going to return the LG1 and try to find an MRP/SRAM guide since they apparently fit better.
    I had an LG1 and SRS+ before getting an MRP. To fit the E13's it took way more spacers to get them to clear the frame. With the MRP it was a much better fit. You can make the E13 work but the MRP does fit better.

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    yes only the 32-36 fit
    lg1 with descendant crank nondrive 1 spacer drive side 2 spacers under the lg1 the fat spacer + the half from the fat spacer.

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    I decided to exchange the LG1+ for the MRP G2SL, I've read that it bolts up without any hassle. I can't wait to finally ride this beast!

    I cracked my SOCOM frame at Mammoth in August and I've been waiting on a replacement M9 for about 4 months. It finally came in last week, so stoked to have it, but so irritated at little things like the chainguide not fitting and the fact that it didn't come with an axle (and my LBS didn't have any). Just a few more days...

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    I reserved a 2012 M9 frame today. I'm pretty stoked but won't be building until February sometime.
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    cool.... i will want to get one....

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    i had no problem mounting my SRS+ with only the thin spacer behind the backplate. the Mini G2SL i had fit fine too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bnorthro View Post
    I think the LG1+ guide's that people are mounting are either modified to fit, or they're using the smaller 32-36t guide.
    I'm planning on running a 38t guide ring so would obviously need a 36-40t guide to accompany it. My LG1+ would fit the bid but does anybody know what kind of modifications are we talking here? I really don't want to get a G2 if I don't have to.
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    With my fork arriving tomorrow I will have everything to complete my build minus the frame... I guess it's good to be excited about something.
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    I think you'd have to grind a bit of the back plate off where it crosses the seatstay on the swingarm. I didn't take any pictures when I was trying to mount it, but I'm sure you could get it to work with a bit of dremeling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbnozpikr View Post
    I'm planning on running a 38t guide ring so would obviously need a 36-40t guide to accompany it. My LG1+ would fit the bid but does anybody know what kind of modifications are we talking here? I really don't want to get a G2 if I don't have to.
    Here are a few shots I just took of my bike with the MRP G2SL. You can see the back of the MRP guide would hit the triangle if it were any larger. The e13 guide is taller and wider there, and I think rotated back more. I'm running 2 washers as spacers and the chainline looks pretty good. Hope that helps
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bnorthro View Post
    Here are a few shots I just took of my bike with the MRP G2SL. You can see the back of the MRP guide would hit the triangle if it were any larger. The e13 guide is taller and wider there, and I think rotated back more. I'm running 2 washers as spacers and the chainline looks pretty good. Hope that helps
    Thank you very much. I think that helps a lot. I will have everything to put the bike together tomorrow (minus the frame and the shifter cable/housing) and I think that I will end up just waiting until I actually start the build. I have been told by Intense that it should work but might need to be spaced more.

    My goal is to have everything ready to go so when the frame arrives in February I can build from start to finish in one shot. That said, if the e13 is too much trouble, I can get an MRP pretty quickly. Thanks again.
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    No worries, good luck on the build. I'm still waiting on a rear axle so I haven't had a chance to ride it yet. Soon hopefully...

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    The fork came in today so all I'm waiting on are the frame and headset which should be here in February. Now I guess the trick is to be patient until it gets here...
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    selling my DB coil and just ordered a DB Air for my bike. should be shipped on 2/15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbnozpikr View Post
    The fork came in today so all I'm waiting on are the frame and headset which should be here in February. Now I guess the trick is to be patient until it gets here...
    there are very nice bike parts..
    look this until your frame come inn... what color you order?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bnorthro View Post
    No worries, good luck on the build. I'm still waiting on a rear axle so I haven't had a chance to ride it yet. Soon hopefully...

    is the rear axle not incl.??

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8664 View Post
    there are very nice bike parts..
    look this until your frame come inn... what color you order?
    Thanks for the link to the video. She's going to be red.
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    red is so nice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8664 View Post

    is the rear axle not incl.??
    It wasn't on mine, but mine was a warranty replacement for a cracked SOCOM. I know that the new frame at my LBS included an axle. A buddy gave me a steel one he had lying around, but the M9 dropouts are really thick and the axle only engages a few threads per side so I'm not real confident running it like that.

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    ok., my original m9 axle without washer is excellent!

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    Some changes since last time:

    Ti spring from the classifieds
    e13 cranks 170mm in the CRC sale
    Easton Havoc carbon bars
    SDG Ti Fly saddle (sale)
    ODI Troy Lee grips (sale)

    I've a got Bos Stoy from the classifieds going on this weekend so no more CCDB. A great shock but a proper PITA.
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