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    Intense Spider 229 at Eurobike.

    It was with some surprise (for me) that I read about Intense showing a version 2 of the Spider 29 at Eurobike. I would assume that they have addressed the problems people had with the first version. This bike interests me.

    Earlier this year I bought a Banshee Paradox as my first experiment with 29" wheels. I never rode my 5point5 again and sold it. I'm really liking it a lot but I think I'd like to go back to a full suspension bike, but a 29". I was quite excited when they first released the Tracer 29 but I was (and still am) a little reluctant to commit to a Tracer. It may be too much bike for me and also I think I would like to build a lighter bike.

    I was wondering if anyone has any information about the Spider 229. I hope that Intense have made it with about 5" of travel like the Spider 2 (26). I have been an Intense fan and rider for years but they are not very forthcoming with Information about their new projects. I had no knowledge of this bike's existence and there is still no technical data for the Tracer 29 on the Intense website.

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    Nice post, and I agree.

    It would be cool to be able to read the plaque in front.....
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Intense Spider 229 at Eurobike.-p1010750.jpg  

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    holy sh*t....i have been out of touch with recent developments for some time. I would love to get my hands on one of these.

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    Looks like a killer bike. Still love my first gen Spider 29, but that one's a pretty tempting upgrade. Wonder when they'll be putting them into production...
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    I m interested too for the spider 29.Look sweet! Just waiting after interbike before make my final decision on a new 29er.I want to see the 2011 Sultan .I can't wait for interbike!
    This is my final list for my new 29er :

    1) Turner Sultan
    2)Intens Spider
    3)SC Tallboy

    What do you think? Any suggestions? All 3 frames are expensive but for the same price I can get a carbon one from SC . I dont know ... please any ideas?

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie
    It was with some surprise (for me) that I read about Intense showing a version 2 of the Spider 29 at Eurobike. I would assume that they have addressed the problems people had with the first version. This bike interests me.

    Earlier this year I bought a Banshee Paradox as my first experiment with 29" wheels. I never rode my 5point5 again and sold it. I'm really liking it a lot but I think I'd like to go back to a full suspension bike, but a 29". I was quite excited when they first released the Tracer 29 but I was (and still am) a little reluctant to commit to a Tracer. It may be too much bike for me and also I think I would like to build a lighter bike.

    I was wondering if anyone has any information about the Spider 229. I hope that Intense have made it with about 5" of travel like the Spider 2 (26). I have been an Intense fan and rider for years but they are not very forthcoming with Information about their new projects. I had no knowledge of this bike's existence and there is still no technical data for the Tracer 29 on the Intense website.

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    Ronnie:

    What are some of your reasons for not wanting to go back to a 26"? I am currently riding a Tracer VP (26") and really like the bike. However, most of the guys I ride with have been drinking the Kool-Aid (or, starting to drink it) and they have me curious about a 29er.

    I ride primarily in western PA and ride all types of terrain (XC, park, etc.), but mostly trails. At any rate, I agree that the Spider 29 looks interesting and wanted to get some feedback on someone who switched to a 29er and why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yzblue242
    Ronnie:

    What are some of your reasons for not wanting to go back to a 26"? I am currently riding a Tracer VP (26") and really like the bike. However, most of the guys I ride with have been drinking the Kool-Aid (or, starting to drink it) and they have me curious about a 29er.

    I ride primarily in western PA and ride all types of terrain (XC, park, etc.), but mostly trails. At any rate, I agree that the Spider 29 looks interesting and wanted to get some feedback on someone who switched to a 29er and why.
    I'm in Northern NJ. Two buddies and I did a road trip to this past weekend to do some riding at Raystown Lake PA. The first time I've been there and we really enjoyed the riding. There are just miles and miles of beautiful single track. Anyway, both of them were on full suspension 26" bikes (not Intense) and I spent a lot of time waiting for them. I was on my Banshee Paradox which is a 28lb. AM style hardtail. I know that my account is anecdotal but for me I just enjoyed the 29 more. I tried my 5point5 a few times after I got the Paradox but quite soon stopped riding it.

    I am not particularly tall (5' 10") but I feel that 29" wheels are more correctly proportioned for my size. I have fairly long legs and have quite a high seat position. I just felt like I was above/on top of the 26" bike. On the 29 I feel more in the bike. This may have something to do with the fact that axle/hub is higher relative to the bottom bracket. That probably also makes the bike more stable.

    The other very noticeable thing is the feeling of less effort getting over roots and other trail obstacles. On my first ride I noticed how much smoother the ride is, even on a hartail. I'm not saying that a 29" hartail replaces a full suspension but it sure rolls over stuff better.

    Have a look on the 29" forum. There are many accounts from people who have changed never to go back. Maybe not all but I'd say most.

    Do yourself a favor and get a descent 29" bike to test ride and see for yourself. Maybe one of your buddies will lend you his.

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    From 2007 to 2010 I rod a Intense Spider29 and loved it.

    In June 2010 I bought a Santa Cruz Tallboy and believe now, this frame is the real evolution of the 2006-Spider29-FS-Experiment. SC analysed the weaknesses of the Spider29 and built the Tallboy. The frame ist lighter with better stifness. Just great!

    So why wait on a Spider229? -> for how long? -> early 2011? ->...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Be@t
    From 2007 to 2010 I rod a Intense Spider29 and loved it.

    In June 2010 I bought a Santa Cruz Tallboy and believe now, this frame is the real evolution of the 2006-Spider29-FS-Experiment. SC analysed the weaknesses of the Spider29 and built the Tallboy. The frame ist lighter with better stifness. Just great!

    So why wait on a Spider229? -> for how long? -> early 2011? ->...
    Early 2011 is fine for me. Not much riding after November in the North Eastern USA.

    I think the Tallboy is a very nice bike but I have a problem with carbon. I have a strip of airplane propeller tape on the lower half of my down tube, there are just too many rocks around. On my 5point5 I could touch up chips in the paint and it always looked good. I wonder how a carbon frame will stand up.

    My other problem with the Tallboy is only 100mm. travel. I don't know yet for sure but I hope the Spider 229 will have at least 5", like the 26" Spider 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Be@t
    SC analysed the weaknesses of the Spider29 and built the Tallboy.
    What are the known weaknesses with the older spider 29? I have a 2007 26" spider, and also a cheap Kona rigid SS 29er, which I've been riding a lot more lately over my spider. Anyway, curious to hear the downsides to the original spider 29. They have them pretty cheap on the backcountry outlet site. Personally, my ideal bike would be a 29er with about 3" travel in the rear and 4" up front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maleonardphi
    What are the known weaknesses with the older spider 29?
    • (to) steep head angle
    • flex in the rear triangle (including rear suspension)
    • little flex in the front section
    • in granny gear tire rubbing on front der.
    • in rainy europe bearings wears out every 3000 miles
    • lot of chainslapping on chainstay
    • not light

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    Just curious, but what's "light" to everyone for a 29er full-susser? I ask b/c I usually ride size small frames. While the 29er is a tasty idea, my weight threshold for bikes I can ride up and down hills all day is about 30 lbs. And since I'm posting this in the 229 thread, how light can a complete bike with this frame weigh?
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    Add me to the list of interested folks for the S229

    Any details on the specs, weight, and availability?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash278
    Add me to the list of interested folks for the S229

    Any details on the specs, weight, and availability?

    +1

    I'm on my spider 29er and I'm thinking the Tracer 29 or this. Depending on the specs.

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    Interesting...
    another pic from interbike here but no specs
    http://twentynineinches.com/2010/09/...tures-part-ii/

    A lighter (than the tracer) 120mm bike would be cool but I think 100mm would make sense. It does look like a 1.5 ht and 120mm fork though?

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    Youtube video from Interbike here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEwnpIa2-rk

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    That vid was porn in the 720 HD mode. I want that bike.
    I really hope the large looks as cool as the medium on display.....
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    So the geometry's the same as the Spider 29, which I think is good, I like the steep HA. The 4 to 4.5" travel I'm guessing means you can run 100 or 120mm fork, which is also good. Hopefully they don't forget about releasing it.

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    I have been riding a first gen Intense 29er- I am really impressed with it other than the creaking it makes....need to figure that out at some point...This new version is on my short list for next year: travel seems right on the money for general XC stuff.

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    When will they be available Mr. Intense?

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    January-ish for the new Spider 229 and the Tracer 2 was what I was told.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ignazjr
    January-ish for the new Spider 229 and the Tracer 2 was what I was told.
    By whom, good sir?

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    Also, will there be small frames as well? Hopefully if so, they'll maintain the seat tube gusset, as that styling looks great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grouan
    I have been riding a first gen Intense 29er- I am really impressed with it other than the creaking it makes....need to figure that out at some point...This new version is on my short list for next year: travel seems right on the money for general XC stuff.
    The creaking should be gone now. Bushings and pivots are all improved in the current gen VPP bikes.
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    Straddled the Spider 229 proto @ bikemotionbenelux yesterday...

    hmmm, could be a nice contender to the Rip!
    Very interested in geo, colors and prices
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