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    Jeni has been riding this bike for month or so after coming off her Tracer DVO. When she first heard she would be trading bikes she was a bit disappointed because she absolutely LOVED the DVO. We fitted her on the bike and sent her off for a quick spin and she came back with a smile so wide I didn't think we would be able to pry her off the new bike.

    We've hit up most of our usual trails and she is in love with the Recluse. It is almost as plush as the Tracer but climbs better and is way more poppy in her opinion. "It just wants to hop off every bump in the trail" yet is super stable in the chunky stuff. A different tool for the job indeed. She still misses the DVO though. Don't we all have a bike we miss?

    She's doing Northstar Bike Park this weekend and I'll get a more thorough review from her then. I wish her bike was bigger (small) so I could ride it! Grrr lol

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    New Intense Recon Carbon Wheel measurements:
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    I'm super stoked on these wheels. The are light for their size and strength. They set up tubeless quite easily with the WTB Convict 2.5 and Trail Boss 2.4. The OE Maxxis High Roller II was even easier. These are a great addition to the Intense lineup given the new crop of 2.4-2.6 tires coming out.
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    What's the JS Tuned Suspension? How is that different from VPP2?

    What's a frame retail for? Any Aluminium frames coming? Or only Carbon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Ryder View Post
    What's the JS Tuned Suspension? How is that different from VPP2?

    What's a frame retail for? Any Aluminium frames coming? Or only Carbon?
    JS TUNED EXPLAINED | Intense Cycles

    The suspension is based on VPP but after the copyrights expired it was changed up quite a bit and includes the entire bike in the design. It definitely feels different than what people expect VPP to feel like.

    No aluminum and no frame only options for awhile.

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    Note in regards to 'Limited Edition' - This is a mistake on the website that we're working to fix. The correct name is 'Elite' which features our new carbon wheelset. This will be a standard option, not a limited edition build. Sorry for the confusion!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam-IntenseCustServ View Post
    Note in regards to 'Limited Edition' - This is a mistake on the website that we're working to fix. The correct name is 'Elite' which features our new carbon wheelset. This will be a standard option, not a limited edition build. Sorry for the confusion!
    Thanks Sam! I'll make the changes in the OP. Is the new carbon wheelset called "Recon"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCWages View Post
    Thanks Sam! I'll make the changes in the OP. Is the new carbon wheelset called "Recon"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam-IntenseCustServ View Post
    Note in regards to 'Limited Edition' - This is a mistake on the website that we're working to fix. The correct name is 'Elite' which features our new carbon wheelset. This will be a standard option, not a limited edition build. Sorry for the confusion!
    Also a mistake on the Primer Foundation build. The rims indicate 275 :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeZee View Post
    Also a mistake on the Primer Foundation build. The rims indicate 275 :-)
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    Thankfully they were sure to reference Recluse as a Spider and NOT as a weirdo separatist hiding out off the grid

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    Curious as to your comparison against your current Spider. Can you provide any more detail? You indicate its different than what VPP is supposed to be so...doesn't have mid travel blow through, hanging up on mid size square hits, bottom falls out pumping off transitions.. not sure what pro or con you are addressing...Until someone models on Linkage etc we don't have a lot to go by. The geo is along the lines of Spider275 but definitely a different bug. This bike will probably be my 6th Intense but just trying to get a feel for what is different. I was thinking " oh sure its a Bronson" but those numbers don't line up, WB, CS,Reach all significantly different.

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    Frame weight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefy View Post
    Curious as to your comparison against your current Spider. Can you provide any more detail? You indicate its different than what VPP is supposed to be so...doesn't have mid travel blow through, hanging up on mid size square hits, bottom falls out pumping off transitions.. not sure what pro or con you are addressing...Until someone models on Linkage etc we don't have a lot to go by. The geo is along the lines of Spider275 but definitely a different bug. This bike will probably be my 6th Intense but just trying to get a feel for what is different. I was thinking " oh sure its a Bronson" but those numbers don't line up, WB, CS,Reach all significantly different.
    I am mainly thinking of pedal input to motion response, square edge hits and travel linearity. Some people complain about a soft pedal response on older style VPP. Positioning of the I-Box pivot within the seat stay and making it shorter results in a change in stroke that produces a pedal input to output that feels near instantaneous. How much of this is due to pivot design and shock tuning I don't know but it works. There is much less flex in the lower pivot and chainstays which makes for a very efficient platform that also feels smooth and controlled on rocky descents. I'm not an engineer so I hope that makes sense. It just feels different than other older VPP bikes which are also good, just different feeling.

    I've never had an issue with square edge hits. In fact I was very surprised VPP was labeled as bad for square edge hits. When I got my Tracer Palmer Edition I slammed the back tire into a curb head on and it rolled over it so smooth I could have stayed seated and not been bothered. Compared to my Horst Link bike I was shocked.

    I think my coming into the game after so much has changed after being static for so long makes it hard for me to view suspension and geometry through tainted/biased eyes. I learn about new designs but take every opinion and article with a grain of salt until I can get some seat time and formulate my own opinions. What I've come to realize is old suspension stereotypes just don't hold true anymore. Too much innovation for that.

    I can't ride her bike and compare due to sizing (small vs. large) but I did pedal it around before tuning it for her and it felt very similar to my Spider but more aggressive, more burly yet feather light. Pedal feel was almost the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCWages View Post
    JS TUNED EXPLAINED | Intense Cycles

    The suspension is based on VPP but after the copyrights expired it was changed up quite a bit and includes the entire bike in the design. It definitely feels different than what people expect VPP to feel like.

    No aluminum and no frame only options for awhile.
    THIS is troubling.

    Companies evolve - stockholders need to be appeased, but as a fan of Intense, owner of their product and hopefully of future products (maybe not?), this is troubling.

    I understand you're exploring a revision to your business model, and probably have loads of market surveys to justify all of these completes at >$4K entry level!!!!!! Here's where I worry as a fan... You don't appear to have a 2016 Spyder Alloy in the works or available (could be wrong). There is no announcement of alloy bikes along with any of these new models and I'm one of (I HAVE TO ASSUME) many who would want to port over parts from their current ride onto a frame only option - and THIS is probably the only way I could afford a new bike.

    Is there any sense you're also evolving your customer-base such that you're getting rid of customers and long time fans like me? I'd have to imagine that the marketers see that reality and it's sad that the company may be willing to shake off a core part of what made it successful.

    I sincerely hope that when you say "awhile" it's not a long while. That when the next iteration of the Tracer shows up, that an Alloy is soon to follow (it's the most popular bike you sell, so yes right?) and with a frame-only option as well. Intense is not the only company selling expensive bikes, but it was a boutique brand, that until recently still seemed accessible to me.
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    Thanks. My reading comprehension is failing, I missed its not your bike.

    I don't believe all of the criticisms of VPP and have enought seat time to form my own opinion. The current gen Tracer feels much different than the current spider, I have the opportunity to routinely ride them back to back. My Spider definately has an issue with square edge. I think you are correct on shock tuning, VPP has a narrower tuning band than the marketing will have you believe.

    Not that many people riding Intense on the east coast so we usually have to get bikes based on numbers and previous experience.

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    If you look at pinkbike preview of this bike and the angels of their lineup there is no uzzi listed for 2017. Seems like in hose welding is retired?

    That being said since I love my usa welded 2016 uzzi so much I have an order in for a recluse. I'll start a new thread on that build soon. I had to go with their most economical frame option which the pro build.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7PointMe View Post
    THIS is troubling.

    Companies evolve - stockholders need to be appeased, but as a fan of Intense, owner of their product and hopefully of future products (maybe not?), this is troubling.

    I understand you're exploring a revision to your business model, and probably have loads of market surveys to justify all of these completes at >$4K entry level!!!!!! Here's where I worry as a fan... You don't appear to have a 2016 Spyder Alloy in the works or available (could be wrong). There is no announcement of alloy bikes along with any of these new models and I'm one of (I HAVE TO ASSUME) many who would want to port over parts from their current ride onto a frame only option - and THIS is probably the only way I could afford a new bike.

    Is there any sense you're also evolving your customer-base such that you're getting rid of customers and long time fans like me? I'd have to imagine that the marketers see that reality and it's sad that the company may be willing to shake off a core part of what made it successful.

    I sincerely hope that when you say "awhile" it's not a long while. That when the next iteration of the Tracer shows up, that an Alloy is soon to follow (it's the most popular bike you sell, so yes right?) and with a frame-only option as well. Intense is not the only company selling expensive bikes, but it was a boutique brand, that until recently still seemed accessible to me.
    I don't believe Intense is trying to faze out less affluent customers. Me and most of my friends are in the same demographic you are so I definitely identify with your concerns. When I said "awhile" I mean until all orders for completes are fulfilled. Honestly I'm not sure about alloy versions but I'd be happy to find out for you. I'm just an ambassador and not a paid employee so I don't have all the answers but I have access. I enjoy trying to help people get onto bikes that will enrich their lives like MTBing and Intense did for me. If Sam doesn't reply with an answer I'll see what I can find for you.

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    I thought Intense got out of alloy, or am I remembering incorrectly?

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    Thanks JC, definitely appreciate you and Sam and the access and perspective you can provide!

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    Thanks for all the info! JC or Sam, any word on whether the Recon wheels will be available a'la carte?

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    A note on VPP feel. It is no different than DW in that the curve can be tuned for whatever effect the designer desires. The Nomad is a falling to rising rate while other SC bikes are the opposite. I believe that Intense was somewhat limited in their curves based on the licensing agreement with SC. Now that the shackles are off you will see a lot more innovation on VPP. Just look at the chainstay length on this bike as an example.

    Overall don't for a second believe that the label on the suspension, DW VPP Switch Infinity etc, design means that it can achieve anything unique. They are all highly tunable to almost any desired outcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salespunk View Post
    A note on VPP feel. It is no different than DW in that the curve can be tuned for whatever effect the designer desires. The Nomad is a falling to rising rate while other SC bikes are the opposite. I believe that Intense was somewhat limited in their curves based on the licensing agreement with SC. Now that the shackles are off you will see a lot more innovation on VPP. Just look at the chainstay length on this bike as an example.

    Overall don't for a second believe that the label on the suspension, DW VPP Switch Infinity etc, design means that it can achieve anything unique. They are all highly tunable to almost any desired outcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7PointMe View Post
    THIS is troubling.

    Companies evolve - stockholders need to be appeased, but as a fan of Intense, owner of their product and hopefully of future products (maybe not?), this is troubling.

    I understand you're exploring a revision to your business model, and probably have loads of market surveys to justify all of these completes at >$4K entry level!!!!!! Here's where I worry as a fan... You don't appear to have a 2016 Spyder Alloy in the works or available (could be wrong). There is no announcement of alloy bikes along with any of these new models and I'm one of (I HAVE TO ASSUME) many who would want to port over parts from their current ride onto a frame only option - and THIS is probably the only way I could afford a new bike.

    Is there any sense you're also evolving your customer-base such that you're getting rid of customers and long time fans like me? I'd have to imagine that the marketers see that reality and it's sad that the company may be willing to shake off a core part of what made it successful.

    I sincerely hope that when you say "awhile" it's not a long while. That when the next iteration of the Tracer shows up, that an Alloy is soon to follow (it's the most popular bike you sell, so yes right?) and with a frame-only option as well. Intense is not the only company selling expensive bikes, but it was a boutique brand, that until recently still seemed accessible to me.
    Intense still offers alloy bikes: Spider 275A | Intense Cycles

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    Super pumped on this bike! Just brought mine home yesterday (Pro build) and rode it last night on some local trails and didn't want to stop...I should have brought lights!

    I'll provide some more feedback once I get more seat time on it but one of the things that really stood out between the Recluse and the Spider is that they climb damn near identical. The 150mm dropper on the Recluse is a godsend, I would love to have a 150mm on the Spider.

    A lot of the local trails in So-Cal that I ride are super dry and loose due to our lack of rain. The whoops or brake bumps before berms and turns could get pretty violent on the Spider, the 150 fork on the Recluse and the extra 1 degree of head angle really help in blowing over the chatter and bumps into turns. The beefier suspension on the Recluse makes the bike much more forgiving when taking a bad line or letting off the brakes and dropping in on some unknown. I'm really excited to get back out and put it through it's paces. I kind of baby'd it for the first ride to break it in and to get used to it but looking forward to putting the hammer down in the next couple weeks and try out some different terrain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7PointMe View Post
    Thanks JC, definitely appreciate you and Sam and the access and perspective you can provide!
    My pleasure.

    The ACV, Prime and Recluse will not be made in alloy. However, if a discounted price is what you need there are always mid year sales on carbon models which drops the cost well below what new alloy versions would cost. I know that is not a great answer but every dollar saved helps right? Are you in California? Shoot me a PM so I don't clutter up this thread.

    A frame only option for the Recluse will be available but not for the first 6 months.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sprocking_Crail View Post
    Thanks for all the info! JC or Sam, any word on whether the Recon wheels will be available a'la carte?
    The Recon wheels will be available a'la carte but there is no date set for that availability. If I hear of a release date I'll gladly post it up. They are quite nice and like most stickered wheels you need to be careful when mounting tires with a lever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creativefletch View Post
    Super pumped on this bike! Just brought mine home yesterday (Pro build) and rode it last night on some local trails and didn't want to stop...I should have brought lights!

    I'll provide some more feedback once I get more seat time on it but one of the things that really stood out between the Recluse and the Spider is that they climb damn near identical. The 150mm dropper on the Recluse is a godsend, I would love to have a 150mm on the Spider.

    A lot of the local trails in So-Cal that I ride are super dry and loose due to our lack of rain. The whoops or brake bumps before berms and turns could get pretty violent on the Spider, the 150 fork on the Recluse and the extra 1 degree of head angle really help in blowing over the chatter and bumps into turns. The beefier suspension on the Recluse makes the bike much more forgiving when taking a bad line or letting off the brakes and dropping in on some unknown. I'm really excited to get back out and put it through it's paces. I kind of baby'd it for the first ride to break it in and to get used to it but looking forward to putting the hammer down in the next couple weeks and try out some different terrain.

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    Sick! I'm eager to read your thoughts once you get more miles on it. I can't ride Jeni's bike so I have to rely on her input and what I observe watching her on it vs. her Tracer. I do notice she spends a lot more time in the air now. Haha
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    Speaking of alloy, does anyone know if a carbon rear triangle from the new Spider would be a direct bolt to an alloy 2015 275A Spider? Thinking it might be a great way for me to save some weight and get a boost rear end, but it's a long shot.

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    Why no 12 speed builds?

    And what's the story with the mid-level suspension components on the high end models?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobPatch76 View Post
    Speaking of alloy, does anyone know if a carbon rear triangle from the new Spider would be a direct bolt to an alloy 2015 275A Spider? Thinking it might be a great way for me to save some weight and get a boost rear end, but it's a long shot.
    Highly doubt that. They're far from an exact translation from alloy to carbon. There were changes to improve the carbon's ride, including a tweaked linkage.
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    Why doesn't Intense Bikes put pricing on there website? It's frustrating to look at a bike and then have to go to another site to find the price.

    Recluse on paper is the bike I should have! Seems to be a nice balance geo, and travel wise.

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    Jeni's quick testimonial after riding it for a few weeks pre-launch.

    "I had abnormal attachment with my Tracer DVO. I loved how confident it made me. The Recluse feels like the Tracer, super confident, bombs through chunky rock exactly how I like but then poppy and light at the same time. Once I discovered how easy it popped off stuff I couldn't stop hitting everything I could. For me it might be the perfect bike!"

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    Jc, any idea on frame weight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BluePitch View Post
    Why doesn't Intense Bikes put pricing on there website? It's frustrating to look at a bike and then have to go to another site to find the price.

    Recluse on paper is the bike I should have! Seems to be a nice balance geo, and travel wise.
    I was told that pricing is not on the website right now because of difference in international pricing and they don't have the website geo-targeted yet so that it will change the pricing when people go on from different countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creativefletch View Post
    I was told that pricing is not on the website right now because of difference in international pricing and they don't have the website geo-targeted yet so that it will change the pricing when people go on from different countries.
    That makes sense. I read that the top of the line model goes for 12,500 Euro in France (including VAT)... The pricing delta probably covers a trip to the US if one lives there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCWages View Post
    Jeni's quick testimonial after riding it for a few weeks pre-launch.

    "I had abnormal attachment with my Tracer DVO. I loved how confident it made me. The Recluse feels like the Tracer, super confident, bombs through chunky rock exactly how I like but then poppy and light at the same time. Once I discovered how easy it popped off stuff I couldn't stop hitting everything I could. For me it might be the perfect bike!"

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    I'm going to second Jeni's observation. While I have not rode the Tracer a lot, coming from the Spider, which is basically the little brother of the Recluse, this bike begs to be in the air. However it's different from the spider in the sense that the spider I like popping off stuff and flicking the bike around...real playful. The Recluse I want to hit hips and then just bomb through rocky technical stuff, the spider I would need to finesse it more. On the Recluse I'm always looking for a fun rock drop.

    I got to ride it again this morning and I rode a trail I have rode quite a bit on my Spider. It's a pretty smooth trail but there is a downhill area that has quite a few rock gardens and drops, my time through the downhill area was 12 seconds faster on the Recluse and I can definitely say the Grin factor through that section was HIGH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varaxis View Post
    Highly doubt that. They're far from an exact translation from alloy to carbon. There were changes to improve the carbon's ride, including a tweaked linkage.
    Ah bummer, I have an email into Intense right now with the same question just to make sure, but figured I'd ask anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorg View Post
    Jc, any idea on frame weight?

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    These are the rough weights with axle and shock (Fox Float X2 I believe) I will update with clarifications when I get them.
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    Md=6.07 lbs
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    Dang! Thinking about demoing a Spider next week in the mountains. No Recluse available for demo yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zorg View Post
    Dang! Thinking about demoing a Spider next week in the mountains. No Recluse available for demo yet.

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    I just sent Maxine a message to see what the demo schedule is and when the Recluse will be added to the van. Where are you from again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCWages View Post
    I just sent Maxine a message to see what the demo schedule is and when the Recluse will be added to the van. Where are you from again?
    East bay but I will in Truckee next week

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCWages View Post
    These are the rough weights with axle and shock (Fox Float X2 I believe) I will update with clarifications when I get them.
    Sm= ??
    Md=6.07 lbs
    Lg=6.10 lbs
    Xl= 6.12 lbs
    JC what is the BB on this bike? Can't find it anywhere! PressFit?

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    Yes press fit bb
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    This is my proposed Recluse build. I'm just waiting for confirmation.

    Any thoughts?

    Frame: Intense Recluse M
    Fork: DVO Diamond 110 Boost 150mm
    Wheels: Bouwmeester Tammar 650b
    Tyres: Maxxis Minion 2.5" DHF WT front, Maxxis HR II 2.4" tubeless rear, maybe an Aggressor
    Cranks: Shimano XT 36/26
    Rear derailleur: Shimano XT Di2
    Front derailleur: Shimano XT Di2
    Handlebars: Pro Tharsis Trail Di2
    Stem: Pro Tharsis Trail 45
    Grips: Ergon GE1
    Seat: Ergon SME3 medium
    Seat post: KS Lev
    Cassette: Shimano XT 11-40
    Brakes: Hope Tech 3 E4 or Magura MT7
    Shifters: Shimano XT Di2
    Headset: Cane Creek 40
    System display: Shimano XT Di2
    Chain: Shimano XTR
    Disc rotors: Hope floating 200mm front 180mm rear
    BB: Shimano
    Battery: yes please
    Brake adapters: Hope

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    ^^I thought frame only wasn't an option yet?

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    Do these use the same carbon layup for the rear triangle as the spider?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crank1979 View Post
    This is my proposed Recluse build. I'm just waiting for confirmation.

    Any thoughts?

    Frame: Intense Recluse M
    Fork: DVO Diamond 110 Boost 150mm
    Wheels: Bouwmeester Tammar 650b
    Tyres: Maxxis Minion 2.5" DHF WT front, Maxxis HR II 2.4" tubeless rear, maybe an Aggressor
    Cranks: Shimano XT 36/26
    Rear derailleur: Shimano XT Di2
    Front derailleur: Shimano XT Di2
    Handlebars: Pro Tharsis Trail Di2
    Stem: Pro Tharsis Trail 45
    Grips: Ergon GE1
    Seat: Ergon SME3 medium
    Seat post: KS Lev
    Cassette: Shimano XT 11-40
    Brakes: Hope Tech 3 E4 or Magura MT7
    Shifters: Shimano XT Di2
    Headset: Cane Creek 40
    System display: Shimano XT Di2
    Chain: Shimano XTR
    Disc rotors: Hope floating 200mm front 180mm rear
    BB: Shimano
    Battery: yes please
    Brake adapters: Hope
    Why KS LEV dropper? In my experience between the LEV and the Reverb the Reverb has been a far better dropper. The LEV when in full compression doesn't always come back up and needs a bump. Haven't had this issue with the the Reverb. Also, I highly recommend a 150mm post.

    Rear Shock?

    Are you purchasing a certain build and then just selling off 80% of the parts?

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    LEV dropper is really garbage. I had two and both had issues on different bikes. Plus it took 3 months to get fixed. Reverb if there is an issue you have a new dropper within a week.

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    I've had reverbs and a couple LEVs. The reverb warranty is worth every penny. The fact that they send you a new(rebuilt?) one in a new box and you just return your faulty one in the box that the new one came is worth a lot. KS service isn't always fast and if you are like me, I can't ride without a dropper now. First world problems, Right?!

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    I've got 2 Levs at the moment, one on a Liteville and one on a Nicolai. I haven't had a problem with either of them, but friends with Reverbs have had a few issues. I'm open to suggestions though.

    X2 factory rear shock on the bike I'm getting. I've been told i can buy the frame only.

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    One of my levs started to sag and leak oil, fixing it took 3 months. Another lev on my wife's bike gets stuck in the down position. My old reverb had zero issues, my new one also sagged after a few weeks, but it got replaced within a few days with a new one. I also have a Thompson on my fatbike with no issue other than cable adjustments from time to time. Customer service experience was just bad with KS and you can see bike manufactures move away from them. Pivot going to fox, intense back to reverb. All droppers will fail eventually so time it takes to get fixed is key to me.

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    I looked at the new Fox Transfer and it looks okay too. There seem to be a few nice posts popping up now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crank1979 View Post
    I looked at the new Fox Transfer and it looks okay too. There seem to be a few nice posts popping up now.
    Pun intended?! Haha

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    What is the max tire size this can run? 2.4-2.5?

    I wonder how this would work with a coil... Hopefully PUSH is working on fitting up the Elevensix!

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    I'm sure push is going to do their thing, and I bet a coil would be great on this little firecracker. But I'm not sure you need any kind of climb circuit to make it climb better. Having a plush and ultra plush setting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sprocking_Crail View Post
    Pun intended?! Haha
    I'm keeping an open mind with other dropper posts. I'm not stuck down on any one post at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vice grips View Post
    I'm sure push is going to do their thing, and I bet a coil would be great on this little firecracker. But I'm not sure you need any kind of climb circuit to make it climb better. Having a plush and ultra plush setting?
    I've been waiting for the new Tracer to launch but based on early reviews wondering if this frame w an Elevensix and a factory 36 fork will get me close enough on big hit capability. May still wait but will def do a demo on this soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DriverB View Post
    I've been waiting for the new Tracer to launch but based on early reviews wondering if this frame w an Elevensix and a factory 36 fork will get me close enough on big hit capability. May still wait but will def do a demo on this soon.

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    It depends on what you consider big hits. The bike is flippin SOLID! It loves to get in the air too. Jeni rode it at Northstar Bike Park yesterday for a women's clinic and she couldn't stop talking about how much the bike wanted to be airborne. Kind freaked her out on one roller that sent her higher and further than she has ever jumped. Came back talking about feeling like Casey Brown. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by DriverB View Post
    I've been waiting for the new Tracer to launch but based on early reviews wondering if this frame w an Elevensix and a factory 36 fork will get me close enough on big hit capability. May still wait but will def do a demo on this soon.

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    I'm sure the bike will get you through just about any section of trail. The real question is at what speed and margin for error. I can see this being a great Enduro race bike for local events, but at places like Mammoth I would have to ride on the ragged edge. Something like a Nomad/SB6c etc (I'm sure that Intense will fill this gap shortly) would provide a larger buffer for mistakes in that type of location. As far as big drops go, the ElevenSix will solve that problem for sure.

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    Thanks guys for the thoughts. Looking forward to climbing aboard one of these and letting it rip. Would like capability to send good sized tables and drops... Guessing the existence of this bike means the tracer can eliminate it's 140 setting and go full beast on the next edition. Stoked on all the new sweet rides from Intense!

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    Come on guys lets see your rides. My wife has had hers for a few weeks but has yet to ride it. I hope her sholder starts feeling better this week. The bikes collecting dustIntense Recluse - Reviews and Specs-image.jpgIntense Recluse - Reviews and Specs-image.jpg
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    I'm still in Alaska so this is all I have for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vice grips View Post
    Come on guys lets see your rides. My wife has had hers for a few weeks but has yet to ride it. I hope her sholder starts feeling better this week. The bikes collecting dustClick image for larger version. 

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    I'm exact same as you but in a size M. I'm going to add some carbon bars and carbon wheels. All blacked out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creativefletch View Post
    I'm exact same as you but in a size M. I'm going to add some carbon bars and carbon wheels. All blacked out.

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    Ya he want a set of derby rims with king hubs and RF carbon bars
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    Quote Originally Posted by vice grips View Post
    Ya he want a set of derby rims with king hubs and RF carbon bars
    I'm going to go with the Intense Carbon wheels (which would have made this an elite model but I couldn't wait for the wheels to be in stock). I'm thinking Enve bar.

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    Yup same thing she couldn't wait either. Any word on pricing? Im going to have to make a call tomorrow I think. She eyeing the red/black race face 6C bars. The plan is to get out on a recluse for its first ride.
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    I'm still in Alaska so this is all I have for now.
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    JC. Any idea on the weight of the Foundation Build? My Carbine 29er Pro Build from 2014 with a monarch plus and Novatec Diablos weights about 29lbs and I am guessing the Recluse Foundation is probably between 30-31lbs. Thanks.

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    My recluse is about 27lbs. The frame on the foundation should be 6lbs + 250g. The Pike is lighter than the 36s. It is defintilety going to be sub 30lbs I think.

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    Hi guys,

    Looking at one of these for my wife as her riding skill is outgrowing the Lapierre Zesty TR really fast. This bike seems to have the perfect balance, but I feels she wants a slightly slacker HA that gives her even more confidence on the downs.

    She has tried my Evil Insurgent in Low (65.6HA) and loves the feeling.

    Has anyone tried this bike with 160mm out the front? Will it be too much?

    The bike looks awesome. Makes me want to buy one for myself but hard to justify having the Evil..

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    I defiantly don't think it would be to much fork for the bike but I would just her try it stock first. It's got an amazing ballence of zippy, control, playfulness as is but takes the sting out of the ruff stuff better than any other bike in its weight class. It will rase the bb and give the bike a taller on top feel take more time to lean the bike from one side to the other. The recluse is a great bike for women do to the ease of being able to man(monman)handle the bike on the trail. My wife feels like she can throw the bike around on the trail better than any other bike. She said she is having more fun on this bike than any other bike she's goten to ride DH or trail. It says a lot because she's had a ton of bikes

    The insurgent looks like a pretty rad bike
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    I am running the recluse with 160 out of the gate. Note that you can remove an air spacers in the stock fork to extend it from 150 to 160. The bike is very balanced in the 160/140 setting with 780 bars and a 50mm stem. You get less than 5mm BB raise by increasing the fork lenght by 10mm so I don't think that is an issue. Friend of mine also runs his fork at 160 after starting with 150. I personally think they spec 150 so they don't have two bikes with a 160 fork in the lineup. I am sure it's an awesome bike stock as well but this bike with the 160 does everything the tracer does and probably more with the better rear shock and spot on geometry. I am going to test the 150 setup at some point with some light wheels and lighter tires but for my current setup and riding, the 160 with wide rims and heavy minions is perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shrink View Post
    I am running the recluse with 160 out of the gate. Note that you can remove an air spacers in the stock fork to extend it from 150 to 160. The bike is very balanced in the 160/140 setting with 780 bars and a 50mm stem. You get less than 5mm BB raise by increasing the fork lenght by 10mm so I don't think that is an issue. Friend of mine also runs his fork at 160 after starting with 150. I personally think they spec 150 so they don't have two bikes with a 160 fork in the lineup. I am sure it's an awesome bike stock as well but this bike with the 160 does everything the tracer does and probably more with the better rear shock and spot on geometry. I am going to test the 150 setup at some point with some light wheels and lighter tires but for my current setup and riding, the 160 with wide rims and heavy minions is perfect.
    when will there be a frame only for this thing?

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    Is there no Boost up front for the Foundation and Expert builds? Intense site states non Boost fork and Boost hub for Foundation build, and non Boost fork and non Boost hub on Expert build.

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    That would be odd. Even more reasons to custom build from frame

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    Quote Originally Posted by DriverB View Post
    That would be odd. Even more reasons to custom build from frame

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    Good question. Havent asked my shop guy yet but I would guess intense would sell frames to shops requesting for a custom build.

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    Can anyone comment on the Fox Performance fork's... performance?
    NM found this
    Fox 34 Float GRIP - Review by mikelevy - Pinkbike

    Seems promising
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    Buddy of mine is riding it and is happy. I swapped it for the factory on mine and we ride the same trails, drops and jumps. One thing that is interesting is that the bike is very balanced with the 160/140 setup.

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    Had my recluse going for about a week now. To give you are run down in the past two years I have owned a Carbine, Bronson, SB6 and a Nomad.

    The Recluse is the first bike in a long time that has excited me. It is so playful yet you can ride it so hard. I have set it up for pretty heavy hitting to race Enduro on it.

    I felt the Nomad was too big a bike for most of the riding with a few hours of where I live so I wanted to try something else of 2017. I was getting a little nu skool 29er curious, but after standing and looking at the recluse and primer I decided to go the recluse. Very happy with my decision, but I am sure the Primer would have rocked too.

    In the pics I have a Cane DB coil on it as a demo. Today that was replaced with a CC inline valt coil.

    Build:
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    Full XX1 drivetrain
    Renthal Carbon DH bars, 770mm
    Syntace 40mm stem
    Saint 180mm brakes
    Zelvy carbon rims on Hope hubs.
    Reverb with SDG saddle
    XTR trail pedals
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    Sweet build! What is it weighing in at?

    Also Any idea how the geo changes with 160 up front and whether Intense will void your frame warranty if you run it?

    Seems almost like the HD3 where they should even offer builds with either 150 or 160...

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    Quote Originally Posted by andy_n View Post
    Had my recluse going for about a week now. To give you are run down in the past two years I have owned a Carbine, Bronson, SB6 and a Nomad.

    The Recluse is the first bike in a long time that has excited me. It is so playful yet you can ride it so hard. I have set it up for pretty heavy hitting to race Enduro on it.

    I felt the Nomad was too big a bike for most of the riding with a few hours of where I live so I wanted to try something else of 2017. I was getting a little nu skool 29er curious, but after standing and looking at the recluse and primer I decided to go the recluse. Very happy with my decision, but I am sure the Primer would have rocked too.

    In the pics I have a Cane DB coil on it as a demo. Today that was replaced with a CC inline valt coil.

    Build:
    DVO diamonds set on 160mm
    CC inline valt coil
    Full XX1 drivetrain
    Renthal Carbon DH bars, 770mm
    Syntace 40mm stem
    Saint 180mm brakes
    Zelvy carbon rims on Hope hubs.
    Reverb with SDG saddle
    XTR trail pedals

    Excellent build. What's your weight and the weight of the spring you put on the db coil Il? I've got one of those on order for my spider with a 500 and 550 spring to start with.

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    160 fork should slacken HTA by a quarter degree or do and raise BB a few MM. All I can say is that the bike is super balanced with 160/140. 150/140 seemed undergunned for the capable rear. It's also a very stout frame with thick tubes. More like the uzzi; nothing like the spider. This is a bike you can ride really hard and hit big.

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    about 90kgs/200pounds. 550pound springs seems to be the sweet spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shrink View Post
    160 fork should slacken HTA by a quarter degree or do and raise BB a few MM. All I can say is that the bike is super balanced with 160/140. 150/140 seemed undergunned for the capable rear. It's also a very stout frame with thick tubes. More like the uzzi; nothing like the spider. This is a bike you can ride really hard and hit big.
    Totally agree, HA is about 65.8 so hasn't slackened too much at all. Feels very balanced everywhere. Perfect in the air.

    The frame does seem over built compared to the Yeti SB6.

    Running 2.4 DHR2 and Highroller DD on the rear. It is coming it similar weight to the Nomad I just sold with a DVO topaz on it. In the low 13kgs. Feels a lot more lively than the Nomad. I have given up a bit on weight for performance. Running the DVO diamonds and the coil over a pike and an air shock means adding about 700grams. Well worth it for the way it rides.

    Loving this bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andy_n View Post
    Had my recluse going for about a week now. To give you are run down in the past two years I have owned a Carbine, Bronson, SB6 and a Nomad.

    The Recluse is the first bike in a long time that has excited me. It is so playful yet you can ride it so hard. I have set it up for pretty heavy hitting to race Enduro on it.

    I felt the Nomad was too big a bike for most of the riding with a few hours of where I live so I wanted to try something else of 2017. I was getting a little nu skool 29er curious, but after standing and looking at the recluse and primer I decided to go the recluse. Very happy with my decision, but I am sure the Primer would have rocked too.

    In the pics I have a Cane DB coil on it as a demo. Today that was replaced with a CC inline valt coil.

    Build:
    DVO diamonds set on 160mm
    CC inline valt coil
    Full XX1 drivetrain
    Renthal Carbon DH bars, 770mm
    Syntace 40mm stem
    Saint 180mm brakes
    Zelvy carbon rims on Hope hubs.
    Reverb with SDG saddle
    XTR trail pedals
    Sweet.

    i'm giving serious thought to one to compliment, but not replace, my Nomad, for longer pedally days. Nicely done
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    Intense Recluse - Reviews and Specs-img_3463.jpg


    Here's a little teaser for everyone of what's to come.

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    Can't wait to see the final build. Bike continues to impress a lot.

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    Here's a little teaser for everyone of what's to come.
    150 or 160 fork? Where did you source the frame?

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    I'm only going to do 150.

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    Very sweet. I'm thinking I would stick to it too unless intense starts blessing the 160

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    Intense Recluse - Reviews and Specs-img_3468.jpg

    Just finished, will post some better pics tomorrow.

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    Looks so awesome... Pls post your full build list and weight as well. Congrats

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    XL Frame
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    Quote Originally Posted by cblesius View Post
    XL Frame
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    Fox Float X2
    SRAM Eagle x01 drivetrain
    XTR Brakes
    Ibis 742 Wheels w/ WTB Convict 2.5's
    Race Face SixC 35 Bars 800 wide (may cut to 780)
    Troy Lee ODI grips
    Reverb 170 Dropper
    Wow very nice build. Curious about the weight as well, but I really would like to get a side by side comparison with it and the primer
    Once you go slack, you never go back!

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    Intense Recluse - Reviews and Specs-img_3473.jpg

    Yikes :/ That's a bit heavy, compared to my Primer.

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    Looks awesome. I am sure my recluse comes in around the 28lbs mark with the minions. More important than the weight: how do you like it ?

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    Haven't ridden it yet, will do some sort of ride report later this evening after I get a ride in. My Primer will probably continue to be my main bike and I'll ride this one when I go to the Park or ride something burlier.

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    Just finished, will post some better pics tomorrow.
    Hey - I recognize that bike and that shop! Maybe I'll have to help you break in the bike!

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