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    Intense Launches Hard Eddie Carbon 29er Hardtail

    Here's the link to it...and it looks nice.

    Intense Launches Hard Eddie Carbon 29er Hardtail

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    I was expecting Mr. Intense to start a thread about this as he has in the past on new launches. It definitely looks promising for those in the market for a racy 29er.
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    so people are excited to buy a made in taiwan carbon frame just because it says intenese on the downtube? what happened to made in the usa?

    what's with the upward sloping top tube btw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by qbert2000 View Post
    so people are excited to buy a made in taiwan carbon frame just because it says intenese on the downtube? what happened to made in the usa?

    what's with the upward sloping top tube btw?
    What's with your hard on for Intense? Like a woman scorned...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nmtim View Post
    What's with your hard on for Intense? Like a woman scorned...
    what hard on? is this just a flag waving forum? simple question, what's the allure of a carbon intense? and why a race 29er hardtail? when has intense been synonymous with xc racing? and why carbon and why offshore production? jeff has always bragged about jobs in the us, these carbon offerings aren't doing much for that

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    Quote Originally Posted by qbert2000 View Post
    what hard on? is this just a flag waving forum? simple question, what's the allure of a carbon intense? and why a race 29er hardtail? when has intense been synonymous with xc racing? and why carbon and why offshore production? jeff has always bragged about jobs in the us, these carbon offerings aren't doing much for that
    Really? You clearly have it out for Intense. In the end it's just a bike. Ride it... Or don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nmtim View Post
    Really? You clearly have it out for Intense. In the end it's just a bike. Ride it... Or don't.
    no answers? really???

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    Quote Originally Posted by qbert2000 View Post
    no answers? really???
    Is this Mtnbkr123?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nmtim View Post
    Is this Mtnbkr123?
    hahaha. naw, i'm not crying they are too expensive or that they sold out using vpp after the horst link

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    Quote Originally Posted by qbert2000 View Post
    so people are excited to buy a made in taiwan carbon frame just because it says intenese on the downtube?
    Sounds like Intense has reached Apple status. Slap your logo on whatever and people will buy it!


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    Quote Originally Posted by iRider View Post
    Sounds like Intense has reached Apple status. Slap your logo on whatever and people will buy it!

    Indeed!

    The "buy our mass market product, if you want to stand out from the crowd, just like all the others", seems to have merged to Intense as well


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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbnozpikr View Post
    I was expecting Mr. Intense to start a thread about this as he has in the past on new launches. It definitely looks promising for those in the market for a racy 29er.
    Mr. Intense's too busy working on the Carbine SL 2013 (adding ISCG tabs), so I did him the favor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qbert2000 View Post
    what hard on? is this just a flag waving forum? simple question, what's the allure of a carbon intense? and why a race 29er hardtail? when has intense been synonymous with xc racing? and why carbon and why offshore production? jeff has always bragged about jobs in the us, these carbon offerings aren't doing much for that
    The owner commented about this a couple of months back.
    1. As Intense is a small company, they have to stay competitive, hence why all the carbon products.
    2. People/riders are buying carbon bikes, so Intense's jumping on the band-wagon to get more sales/cash.
    3. Why Taiwan? The owner gave a paragraph explanation on this as well. Basically due to the 'big boys' (as he calls them - Trek, Specialized, etc), it's nearly impossible to have competitive prices for carbon bikes made in the US. So Intense partnered with SEED in Germany and that's where they build them, not Taiwan (I could be wrong though, I don't own a carbon bike yet).
    4. when has intense been synonymous with xc racing? It's all about staying in business in a very competitive market, so I see why Intense is marketing different types of bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edgonz View Post
    3. Why Taiwan? The owner gave a paragraph explanation on this as well. Basically due to the 'big boys' (as he calls them - Trek, Specialized, etc), it's nearly impossible to have competitive prices for carbon bikes made in the US. So Intense partnered with SEED in Germany and that's where they build them, not Taiwan (I could be wrong though, I don't own a carbon bike yet).
    You are wrong. They are made in Taiwan. SEED is just an engineering company. If I understand Jeff right, he did the geo, suspension, frame lines and such and SEED worked out everything carbon like the layup patterns etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iRider View Post
    They are made in Taiwan. SEED is just an engineering company. If I understand Jeff right, he did the geo, suspension, frame lines and such and SEED worked out everything carbon like the layup patterns etc.
    I am pretty sure you are correct.
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    For it's intended purpose it looks really good to me. There's not a huge amount of 1kg 29er that have that level of choice for the dropouts. Pity the fork it QR though - Niner have stolen a march on Intense there.

    Intense have gone about producing a carbon frame by sourcing expertise to SEED. They are probably manufacturing in Taiwan not just because of costs but because that's where the carbon manufacture expertise it also.
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    Yes its made in Taiwan. So what! Intense is still making their aliminum bikes in Temecula, CA. So stop crying about it. We should be thankful they haven't followed others who outsource their manufacturing overseas and still has the audacity to charge the same amount for their bikes.

    But eventhough this bike is not made in the States, its got something that can not be made anywhere else. And that is its simple but seductive lines. Its just gourgeous. One look at it and you know that passion was the framework of its design. Now that is something us Americans can be proud of.

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    Agree- even though I am from Australia! I reckon it looks sensational. And I like the slackish HT compared to the others carbon hard tail 29ers on the market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dufferin View Post
    And that is its simple but seductive lines. Its just gourgeous. One look at it and you know that passion was the framework of its design.
    As much as I like Intense, but based on aesthetics I would buy a Blur LTc over the Carbine if I would be in the market for a carbon VPP trail bike. That double bend top tube on the Carbine just doesn't do it for me.

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    Intense is back in the XC-Racer-Scene.
    We expect the full suspension equivalent as a 650!

    Maybe it`s helpful
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    Quote Originally Posted by dufferin View Post
    yes its made in taiwan. So what! Intense is still making their aliminum bikes in temecula, ca. So stop crying about it. We should be thankful they haven't followed others who outsource their manufacturing overseas and still has the audacity to charge the same amount for their bikes.
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    This bike is exactly what I'm looking to buy. Rigid 29er singlespeed for XC racing. I have an order in for the Specialized Stumpjumper SS, however, it's on backorder for another month or two. I might have to check out the availability of the Hard Eddie and cancel my Specialized order.

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    so.. no reviews yet?

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    intense hard eddie is money

    built up the intense hard eddie this past week and rode it for the first time at Fountainhead regional park in Fairfax Station, VA. Here is a video someone posted of this trail Fountainhead Jump Trail - YouTube

    fast trail with lots of bermed turns, descents, and decent amount of climbing not shown in this video as well as a nice rooty, sandy, rocky section. the best trail in the local area of NoVA IMO for fast xc with a bike park feel.

    So much for the trail. I had bought this frame since it looked so damn cool and had some cool features like internal cable routing, tapered headtube, 12 x 142 thru axle and it was a hard tail made by Intense and a 29er. Yes, a 29er, never thought I would own one, but after riding the Cranky Monkey xc race in Quantico on my ibis mojo hd 2011 with the fox 34 talas, rc4 coil, all mountain build at about 29 pds in weight (an awesome bike as well), it made me think I would be able to shave some time if I rode what everyone else rode (a hard tail and a big wheeler).

    The overall impression of this bike is that it is simply outstanding, I was pleasantly very surprised by it. Getting the right size frame is key. I am 5 10 and this is a medium frame. The bike accelerates, corners, and sticks to the trail very nicely. Planted, stable, and probably absorbs the trail almost as well as my 6 inch travel bike going over rooty rocky sections. there is some feedback from the rear end as it does not have suspension, but obviously these are two different bikes. I bought it for racing, and this bike shaved quite a bit of time off my usual lap time when I rode it. It made the trail seem effortlessly easier that when I was pedalling up it with my HD, and rightly so. I will officially time a lap here soon and post the different times, but overall, this bike is very impressive. It does all three things very well: corner, climb, descend (CCD). A new acronym to go with my fox fork and intense hard eddie. Last but not least, this bike feels like I am riding a 26inch bike with rocket boosters attached. The thought in the back of my head that I am riding a 29er dissapeared after about 2 minutes.

    Great job on this bike Mr Steber. Thanks.

    P.S. 1 I bought the bike from FilzbuiltBicycles (Randy Filz) www.filzbuiltbicycles.com in Woodbridge, VA. A great guy that I have worked with over the last 3 yrs to build a number of bikes (2009 SS2, 2009 Spider 2 VPP, 2010 Uzzi, 2010 Tracer2, 2011 951) and some other custom bikes. Highly recommended and a pleasure to work with.

    P.S. 2 IMO, riding this bike as compared to my Ibis Mojo HD shaves about 5-7 min time. I am providing an approximation since fitness has changed for me and I have lost some power when I did the timed run on the eddie. I can say this, though, I am passing riders on climbs on 26ers, everytime! nice! Currently dreaming of a carbon Intense Tracer 29er to have as the killer bike of trail, all mountain, and park bikes! This would be an awesome bike with 6 inch travel. Damn, I hope Jeff Steber has similar thoughts!
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    Nice build. I am interested to hear the timing against your HD since that is what I am riding right now and would like to know the difference.

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    Lovely bike!

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    Hi. Just wanted to ask, what kind of headset do you use for the hard eddie? Can't seem to find a headset that will be compatible. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bebahsan View Post
    Hi. Just wanted to ask, what kind of headset do you use for the hard eddie? Can't seem to find a headset that will be compatible. Thanks!




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    Quote Originally Posted by bebahsan View Post
    Hi. Just wanted to ask, what kind of headset do you use for the hard eddie? Can't seem to find a headset that will be compatible. Thanks!
    I use an Aerozine XH857 in mine. Works perfectly.

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    I'm 6' with shoes on.......this frame is on the top of my list......Would a 18" or 20" be better. I'm on an X-cal with a 19" seat tube and 24.5 inch effective top tube. The Hard Eddie 18" has a 24" top tube an the 20" has a 24.8" effective top tube. Seems like a tossup.....less stand over is always a good thing, but I don't want to have to have too long of a stem so I don't feel cramped......ahh......rider input would be great! Thanks

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    I wish these were out when I bought my Big Top. Geo looks remarkably similiar, but it is lighter and stiffer. Good looking bikes too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmacovei View Post
    updated the old thread. check it out
    Which XTR crankset are you using? I'm interested in getting one of these but I want to use my current crank which is an XTR 42/30 ring configuiration.

    I have asked Intense direct a couple of times by email, and asked the question on FB but haven't had an answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee rides a Tranny View Post
    Which XTR crankset are you using? I'm interested in getting one of these but I want to use my current crank which is an XTR 42/30 ring configuiration.

    I have asked Intense direct a couple of times by email, and asked the question on FB but haven't had an answer.
    I had the 42/30. It is now a single speed running alfine tensioner with the press bb and truvativ descendants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptkevin View Post
    I'm 6' with shoes on.......this frame is on the top of my list......Would a 18" or 20" be better. I'm on an X-cal with a 19" seat tube and 24.5 inch effective top tube. The Hard Eddie 18" has a 24" top tube an the 20" has a 24.8" effective top tube. Seems like a tossup.....less stand over is always a good thing, but I don't want to have to have too long of a stem so I don't feel cramped......ahh......rider input would be great! Thanks
    I think you would want this since it may have a shorter wheelbase than the next larger size which would make it more easy to steer if you like to use the body english and all that. You could always get a setback seatpost to compensate for 10-15mm difference.I am running the 70mm stem and I am 510...with the saddle almost all the way forward in the post clamp. go Med.

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    it is an awesome bike. I chose this over the tallboy LTc 2012 that I had just built up and sold after riding both bikes, this one first for a while and then SC TB LTc 2012. both awesome, just did not need that much travel and i wish the head angle was a little slacker than 69.5 with a 140 talas. the spider comp 29 has the ideal geometry 68.5 with a 120mm.

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    2012 Intense Hard Eddie 29er Single Speed

    34 x 18 alfine tensioner on descendant cranks with xtr 10 speed chain (the only chain i could find around the house that was long enough and not jackedup)
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    Cool thanks, I've got mine sitting next to me waiting to be built up. All I'm waiting for is the new Praxis BB and the non driveside 142x12mm dropout.

    They look like 120mm forks, have they affected handling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee rides a Tranny View Post
    Cool thanks, I've got mine sitting next to me waiting to be built up. All I'm waiting for is the new Praxis BB and the non driveside 142x12mm dropout.

    They look like 120mm forks, have they affected handling?
    this a 100mm fork...it handles great. going to 120..will compromise climbing.it descends very nicely and stable with a 100mm..bb height is very low so its stable with a 100mm IMO and the CS length is awesome ..very steerable even as a 29er...275 carbine is my next evolution with intense...gonna give up my ibis mojo hd 160 34 fox front with coil 160 rc4...just feels like a kids bike although very steerable however on the descents a bigger wheel would be nice but ibis hd is not a 275/650b setup...going intense on this new tryout for 275/650b. it shoudl be ideal for me as I am 5'9" -5'10"...better steering than a 29er with the frame size for a medium type of guy and a bigger wheelsize than a 26er. nice.

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    Can you tell me what BB you were running for the XTR crank? I'm using a praxis converter and neither the 42/30 or the 38/26 will fit properly, the inner rings on both cranks hit the chainstay.

    Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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    stem length

    Quote Originally Posted by jmacovei View Post
    this a 100mm fork...it handles great. going to 120..will compromise climbing.it descends very nicely and stable with a 100mm..bb height is very low so its stable with a 100mm IMO and the CS length is awesome ..very steerable even as a 29er...275 carbine is my next evolution with intense...gonna give up my ibis mojo hd 160 34 fox front with coil 160 rc4...just feels like a kids bike although very steerable however on the descents a bigger wheel would be nice but ibis hd is not a 275/650b setup...going intense on this new tryout for 275/650b. it shoudl be ideal for me as I am 5'9" -5'10"...better steering than a 29er with the frame size for a medium type of guy and a bigger wheelsize than a 26er. nice.

    Hi there-can you tell me if you have tried a 50mm stem yet? and if you did was your saddle middle of the rail? width of your bar? ive pulled the trigger on a medium and just sorting some parts.

    cheers Haden

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    another hard eddie

    Like your bike-just got mine built...Medium frame (5' 10" 1/2)...not sure on weight buts it lite enough and solid as ferk!

    using a 55mm Easton Haven stem + 120mm CTD Talas..handling perfect... 70mm stem was fine but it feals much sharper with 55mm in 120mm mode with no compromise...headset is FSA Orbit 42/52 carbon.

    1x10 setup with E13 XCX 175mm cranks + E13 PF 30 BB adapter.

    Stealth post and XTR + some new Crossmax wheels + Ardent + Crossmark Lust finish it all off.
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    How did you route the dropper post cable?

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    my bikes a 1 x 10 so using the front D hole...it works perfectly...you need to nail the post height from the get go...not alot of give in the cable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haden View Post
    Like your bike-just got mine built...Medium frame (5' 10" 1/2)...not sure on weight buts it lite enough and solid as ferk!

    using a 55mm Easton Haven stem + 120mm CTD Talas..handling perfect... 70mm stem was fine but it feals much sharper with 55mm in 120mm mode with no compromise...headset is FSA Orbit 42/52 carbon.

    1x10 setup with E13 XCX 175mm cranks + E13 PF 30 BB adapter.

    Stealth post and XTR + some new Crossmax wheels + Ardent + Crossmark Lust finish it all off.
    That is exactly how I'd run mine if I had one!

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    Any idea of the approximate weight with the Crossmax and the dropper post? I imagine, you're about 22 lbs?

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    Hey ptkevin, did you end up purchasing the Hard Eddie after all and what size of frame did you go with?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptkevin View Post
    I'm 6' with shoes on.......this frame is on the top of my list......Would a 18" or 20" be better. I'm on an X-cal with a 19" seat tube and 24.5 inch effective top tube. The Hard Eddie 18" has a 24" top tube an the 20" has a 24.8" effective top tube. Seems like a tossup.....less stand over is always a good thing, but I don't want to have to have too long of a stem so I don't feel cramped......ahh......rider input would be great! Thanks

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