Wow congratulations on making one of the best looking bikes out there Jeff. The carbon Air 9 was a looker of the past, now the Hard Eddie takes the prize imo. The lines, the aesthetic of your creation here is top notch, first class. The flow of the angles, the poise and the promise it entices you with. You look at it, and the emotion is instinctively to want it, to need it and to buy it. You must be very proud of this baby, what an awesome looking bike.
Can anyone tell me, what is the A to C of the carbon fork? I’d really like to know where that head angle might be at as a rigid set up. And finally, can anyone tell me about the SS drop out. Does this drop out change the chainstay length? I know other changeable drop outs sometimes increase the CS length, is this the case here as well?
I am afraid that after a short time the bolt will not handle the forces that involved in SS,
I had some other frames that had strange solution for SS and most of them didn't work.
It looks too fragile.
I will check by myself when I will get the frame.
Looks like tightening the axle captures the slider, so you'd have to overcome surface friction AND tensile strength of the set screw. I think it's up to the task. Let us know after you've stomped a few gnarly hills!
Billy
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Can anyone tell me, what is the A to C of the carbon fork? I’d really like to know where that head angle might be at as a rigid set up. And finally, can anyone tell me about the SS drop out. Does this drop out change the chainstay length? I know other changeable drop outs sometimes increase the CS length, is this the case here as well?
Nice!
I called Intense and the A to C length of the rigid fork is 480mm which is equivalent to a 80mm fork. This drops the front end by about 20mm which changes the head tube angle by about 1 degree to 71.5
I didn't ask what the weight of the rigid is. Any one know?
Thanks for that CarmanDSL, good to know the changes. Wow, that is going to lower it, super stable and it should really rip smoothish turns. Seat angle will be better for climbing and with the weight coming down, it would rocket up hills. I just wish the head angle could still be under 71 deg, just so as you can do things you shouldn't be doing on a rigid better. haha
Does anyone know how does single speed dropouts' adjustment deal with fixed brake caliper postion, since the mount is on the seatstay and not a part of the slider? Or am I missing something here?? I emailed Intense about this sometime last week, but got no answer.
Anyone?.. Or namely - Intense, could you chime in on this? How does the wheel sdjustment work when the caliper position is not moving along with the axle?
OK I'll chime in. The SS drops are likely designed for perfect alignment in the exact middle. The small slider adjustments shouldn't throw pad placement far enough off to be a problem.
Nevermind the slot comment (edited out). There are slots, but they are for lateral adjustments. I wrote that pre-coffee.
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The SS drops are likely designed for perfect alignment in the exact middle.
If this is the case - and it looks like it, as I can't see anything else at work here - then the whole system seems like an afterthought. Caliper mount should've been a part of the removable droputs from the begining. Not a very well thought out design. We might as well try to run a magic gear with std. droputs, really.
Sliding dropouts on a single speed bike should allow for chain tensioning and some adjustment of chainstay length as needed to run different gear combos. I can't see moving the axle forward or back off centre (where the std. dropout would be) by more than a few millimeters and it not affecting how the pads contact the rotor.
I was excited about Hard Eddie being a legitimate candidate for my new SS frame, but this completely disqualifies it as far as I'm concerned.
I think this might be the best looking SS out there. But I know someone who had the dropouts fail on the first ride. I wouldn't trust this design just yet.
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I am afraid that after a short time the bolt will not handle the forces that involved in SS,
I had some other frames that had strange solution for SS and most of them didn't work.
It looks too fragile.
I will check by myself when I will get the frame.
Just got mine built up, weighing in at a hair under 17 lbs. I haven't gotten a chance to ride it yet, and I'm also unsure of the dropouts. The axle is sitting at the very rear of the dropouts and caliper position is not a problem. Simple to adjust chain tension. It's obviously an afterthought and it's not how I would design it, but as long as the axle stays put I'll be happy with it.
I have a long weekend of riding coming up, so I'll post my thoughts after.
Just got mine built up, weighing in at a hair under 17 lbs.
One of the local lads brought in his new frame and fork for me to design a custom shaped frame protection kit and DAMN... my jaw hit the floor - I'd not seen it before and I fell in love. Nice lines, nice weight and really cleaver drop out options. Great job Intense! He's building it up gearded for now but I reckon he'll opt for single speed before long.
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Great looking bike, i am looking at building up a Yeti BigTop or one of these, what do you think the biggest front cog is it would fit? I run a 42/12 combination on my current bike. (flat landscape!) I dont want to go any smaller on my new build.
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