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    Carbine Photo Album

    I will start:

    2012 Fox 36 Van 160mm Rc2 (5.3 Lbs.)
    Formula The One brakes F-203mm/R-180mm
    Shimano XTR M980 cranks
    Shimano XTR front derailleur
    Shimano XTR M985 shadow plus rear derailleur
    Shimano XTR shifters
    Shimano XTR trail pedals
    Sram XX 11-36 Cassette
    Sram 1091-R chain
    Industry Nine DH wheels laced to Stanís flow rims; 142mm x 12mm
    Specialized 2.3Ē Clutch SX tire in front (1,040 grams )
    Maxxis Ardent 2.25" tire in the rear
    Thomson Elite seat post
    Point One Racing 50mm Stem
    Deity Dirty 30" handlebars (soon to be replaced by Enve 31.5" DH carbon bars)
    SDG formula FX saddle


    Special thanks to BLACK ROCK BICYCLES in Reno, Nevada!!!

    I made some changes, my new weight is:
    28.7 Lbs.

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    What did the frame weigh?

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    So jealous. Can you provide some feedback on how well the rear derailleur actually keeps the chain tensioned? What kind of trails do you normally ride, and at what pace? Very interested in this frame but I'm afraid that the lack of a tensioner would be a disaster in the choppy So Cal trails I ride (I've tried my Tracer VP several times without one and I throw chains just about immediately when I point down).

    Sweet bike!

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    Thanks. Pretty impressive weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iRider View Post
    What did the frame weigh?
    5.53 Lbs. for a medium with RP23, seat post collar and 135mm dropouts.
    Last edited by Dwdrums00; 10-31-2011 at 08:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bnorthro View Post
    So jealous. Can you provide some feedback on how well the rear derailleur actually keeps the chain tensioned? What kind of trails do you normally ride, and at what pace? Very interested in this frame but I'm afraid that the lack of a tensioner would be a disaster in the choppy So Cal trails I ride (I've tried my Tracer VP several times without one and I throw chains just about immediately when I point down).

    Sweet bike!
    When I first saw the press release for the carbine I was really disappointed there were no ISCG 05 tabs; at the time it was a real deal breaker. Being a CAT 1 DH racer (I also have an M9,) I haven't ran a bike without a chain guide in at least 5 years.
    Here is a little back story on the derailleur. I purchased a Tracer 2 about a month ago and decided to run the new XTR M-985 shadow plus rear derailleur. At the time I was having serious issues with my 10 speed Sram X0 setup and I had never ran Shimano. Needless to say the XTR M-985 derailleur has been nothing short of amazing. I rode some trails up in Tahoe that had some pretty gnarly rock gardens and the derailleur didnít skip a beat. I have only had the chain drop from the big ring to small ring three times; once was during a crash. The derailleur has a built in adjustable clutch so I decided to increase the tension and I havenít had any problems since.
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    Sounds promising, thanks for the info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwdrums00 View Post
    The derailleur has a built in adjustable clutch so I decided to increase the tension and I havenít had any problems since.
    I didn't know it was adjustable, how do you increase the tension?

    Mine has lost a some tension after 4 months.

    BTW quality bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by toons101 View Post
    I didn't know it was adjustable, how do you increase the tension?

    Mine has lost a some tension after 4 months.

    BTW quality bike
    Here you go, I did the google search for you:
    Ľ Video: Adjusting Shimano XTR Shadow Plus M985 Trail Rear Derailleur with Joe Lawwill - Sick Lines – mountain bike reviews, news, videos | Your comprehensive downhill and freeride mountain bike resource

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    Cheers for that.

    Your Google must be better than mine coz I couldn't find that link

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    great looking bike : )

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    Mind-blowing spec on that Carbine.
    But....ummm.... Shouldn`t the first bike in a photo album be a little more low-key? Who`s gonna wanna post theirs after THAT rig?

    On the other hand, I`m quite shocked at the weight: 30lbs? My Uzzi`s gonna be 30lbs when I put a Float on it this wknd.....
    2010 Intense Uzzi
    2009 Wilier Izoard

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    He's running some heavy ass tires, he could probably drop almost 2lbs going to something like a Non-UST Hi-Roller & running tubeless (about 670g each I think). Also running a coil fork fwiw.

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    Now that is one SICK bike.


    Ride the bananas out of it!

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    Thanks for the complements guys!
    Dopaminer: A 30 lbs uzzi sounds sweet. I had my uzzi down to 32lbs with the same heavy tires, CCDB and 180mm float (which I never liked.)
    Bnorthro is right, I could easily drop 3 lbs. by running lighter tires, a float fork and lighter pedals. Since I am DHer at heart I prefer thicker tire casing and a plush fork. I have never owned a sub 30 Lbs bike. I was really concerned about being too light and getting pinballed on the downhill.

    BTW, I took the carbine out on it's maiden voyage and it was amazing!!! I have never ridden a bike that pedals this well and still eats up the rocky downhill.
    Last edited by Dwdrums00; 11-02-2011 at 09:29 AM.

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    Quality build! I bet she rides like a dream! I've been pretty happy with the RP23's performance on the Carbines but can't help but wonder what a coil might feel like on the longer descents?

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    I'm curious what the rear shock size is, i-to-i, shock stroke?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nponto View Post
    I'm curious what the rear shock size is, i-to-i, shock stroke?
    7.875" x 2.25"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwdrums00 View Post
    7.875" x 2.25"
    Thanks.
    That is one heck of a bike you got there. Dream machine!

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    Mine... not yet in my hands but soon...

    Fork Fox 36 Float FIT RLC
    Brake Avid X.O
    Brake Avid X.O
    Shifter SRAM X.0
    Cable SRAM Stainless
    Housing SRAM Housing
    Crank Truvativ X.0
    BottomBracket Truvativ GXP Team adapter cups. BB92 press-fit (MTB)
    FrontDerailleur Shimano XTR Race
    Cassette SRAM PG-1070
    RearDerailleur SRAM X.0 10-spd
    Chain SRAM PC1091 - Mtn
    Wheelset Crank Brothers Iodine-2 26" F/R wheelset, 20x110+12x142 blk/sil
    Skewer DT-Swiss Thru Bolt RWS skewer, alloy, 12x142mm - black
    Tire Kenda Nevegal UST
    Tube Butyl Presta Mtn
    Tube Butyl Presta Mtn
    Pedal Crank Brothers Candy 1
    Headset Chris King Red 49mm lower, Inset 44mm upper for tapered fork
    Stem Thomson X4
    Handlebar Easton EA70 Monkeybar
    Grip Oury Soft Grip
    Seatpost RockShox Reverb
    Saddle WTB Pure V Race

    Total Weight: 29.91 lbs
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    What's the opinion on running a 32 on this bike? I'm looking for a 26-27lb super d rig.

    I'm pretty sure with the build i'm looking at it should come in around there...any opinions?

    FOX 32
    Sun Ringle Chargers
    Full XT
    Gravity Dropper Turbo
    Thomson Stem

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    Love to hear the difference one perceives between a carbon Nomad and this bike. I am currently riding a Nomad c but like the idea of a lower bb height and the adjustable travel (I like the stiffer 5.5 setting I had on my old aluminum Blur LT for some riding). My concern is with side-to-side stiffness under pedaling (the Nomad c climbs like mad due to the stiffness, and tracks sooo well. I'd hate to give that up...and to be honest...may be a deal breaker for me). Love to hear the opinion of any experienced with BOTH bikes.

    I ride in a technical area of BC (Southern Vancouver Island), and appreciate stiffness (we have to earn our descents, aggressive and challenging in both directions) and slack(ish) angles (fun when fast!). As well, I work at a shop that sells both Santa Cruz and Intense, but the Carbine is so new I won't see one before I expect to purchase it (my Nomad c frame is all but sold, and Canada is not expected to get Carbine frames for another month or so, as I've been told anyways), so I don't need to be told how great Ibis frames are, not going that direction
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    my T2 is 28.66lbs. there is plenty of room there! of the carbine.

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    I am really suprised at the weights on those Carbines. My T2 is 29.05 with 2x9 bash,guide, 2009 Float 36 RC2, angleset and RS Reverb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quickneonrt View Post
    I am really suprised at the weights on those Carbines. My T2 is 29.05 with 2x9 bash,guide, 2009 Float 36 RC2, angleset and RS Reverb.
    Why are you surprised? The T2 frame weights approximately 2.25 Lbs more than the Carbine. My T2 was 33 Lbs. before I swapped all the parts, minus the CCDB w/steel spring and BB to my carbine. If I were to run IMO a sub par float fork which saves .8 Lbs over the Van w/ green spring, pinner XC tires (saves a little over 2 Lbs) and pedals that didn't weigh 520 grams, my carbine would easily weigh 26 Lbs. But, I am more concerned about how the bike performs on the Downhill.

    I have seen plenty of 26Lbs NomadC's but IMO those are just XC builds on a AM/Light Free ride frame; pointless IMO.

    Now if XC riding is your thing completey ignore the rant above
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