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    Carbine 29 Review

    We've been getting some awesome reviews for this bike since its release:

    Intense Carbine 29: Could this be the ultimate trail/race weapon? | Enduro Mountainbike Magazine

    Anyone that has one want to comment on their experience so far?

    Let me know if anyone has any questions about this beast!

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    Thanks for the review. Been looking at one of these for a future 29er.

    The frame needs to be offered in the traditional "Intense Red".

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    MBUK just gave it a glowing review, 4.5* out of 5. Evolutionary rather than revolutionary......

    I personally think the colour scheme is horrible, enough to stop me buying it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thelma Viaduct View Post
    MBUK just gave it a glowing review, 4.5* out of 5. Evolutionary rather than revolutionary......

    I personally think the colour scheme is horrible, enough to stop me buying it.
    Honesty is appreciated. Another more 'neutral' color scheme is due for this frame...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miker J View Post
    Thanks for the review. Been looking at one of these for a future 29er.

    The frame needs to be offered in the traditional "Intense Red".
    Yes I'll wait for intense red.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balakeka View Post
    Yes I'll wait for intense red.
    +3 for the RED
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    Nice write up on the Carbine 29. As much as I love my Tracer 2 27.5 conversion, lately I've been coveting the Carbine 27.5 and this review makes me think I should also demo the 29er before making any decisions. I wouldn't mind other color options too. Not because I think the paint's ugly, far from it. Just reminds me too much of the Specialized Stumpy 29er at first glance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam-IntenseCustServ View Post
    Honesty is appreciated. Another more 'neutral' color scheme is due for this frame...
    Carbon/White - like the SL Carbon/Red pattern

    The new Carbon/Yellow 275 looks mega btw

    Will 2015 275s be lengthened in the top tube with internal cabling?

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    I test rode one yesterday in the Surrey hills in good old blighty, I dont think i've smiled so much on a bike in ages.
    So much confidence on the downs and climbed pretty well too. (was using 160mm pikes for the first time too)
    Now to sell one of the children to justify the mammoth cost it is to buy one over here.

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    I really love mine. It's by far the best bike I've ever owned with my two previous bikes being a Sumpjumper fsr and an Enduro Evo expert. I have the X01 build and have really liked it so far, simple and efficient. I was really surprised at how much this bike smoothed rough technical sections but this is my first 29er. I've cleaned sections of rough trail I've always had to dab on.
    I have to say that I've very happy with my purchase and look forward to having this bike for quite a while.
    Oh and I LOVE the color and paint scheme. I honestly I was only interested in the performance of the bike and still would have bought it if it had been pink with polka dots. The fact that it performs so well and imho looks *****in is icing on the cake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MondoRides View Post
    ..... Just reminds me too much of the Specialized Stumpy 29er at first glance.....
    ... said nobody ever when Intense frames were still made in CA, USA only.

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    For what's its worth, I thought the orange looked pretty bad in pics, but when I saw it in person I actually think it looks really good.

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    The color scheme is cool. But, Intense offing such a great bike and not having an "Intense Red" version would be like Zepplin releasing an epic tune without Jimmy on guitar.

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    Hey Sam,

    What's the shock length and stroke for the Carbine 29?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTB Pilot View Post
    Hey Sam,

    What's the shock length and stroke for the Carbine 29?
    7.875 x 2.25"
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    Thanks! CC's website says 7.87x3.5 when you put the Carbine 29 in their "shock fit finder." I thought they were a little off; Don't even think they make that size.
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    Carbine 29 Review

    Look what showed up this week. Can't wait to get it together. more to come.
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    Mine also showed up at my LBS as I had it shipped there while I'm out of town. Mine is a warranty replacement for a carbine, since they didn't have any large frames to replace with. I had recently moved to 29", so I inquired about the 29 model and they said no problem. I was thinking about selling the carbine 275 replacement since I had all the parts, but now thinking of building the 29 to ride as I want to try some "enduro" races this year. I loved the Carbine, especially as a 275, but was moving on to less suspension 29ers. I'm really torn about the bike with the most recent Bike Magazine "Bike Bible" test. I really like that they say you can crush tech climbs and gnarly descents, but the wheelbase making it less nimble and hard to manual is disappointing. This is only the second review I've seen, first was a dude in UK that LOVED it, and there is not much more to go off of. Thinking of building, trying it, and selling frame and fork if I don't love it, but finding a Pike 160mm, 51mm offset on the aftermarket is proving to be almost impossible so far. Can find 150 with 51mm or 160 w/o 51mm, but both of those take away from how the bike was designed. I dunno... Won't be able to build it for another month or so anyway.

    On a more positive note, Sam and Chad at Intense have been absolutely wonderful and very accommodating! Best customer service I've ever had for a warranty issue!

    Any relevant opinions on a fork? Would less suspension or less offset be more desirable...or less desirable?
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    I have about 100 mi now on my Carbine 29 and its unbelievably dialed climbing and descending. I definitely don't think the chainstays are any too long. Intense nailed it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTB Pilot View Post
    Sam and Chad at Intense have been absolutely wonderful and very accommodating! Best customer service I've every had for a warranty issue!

    Any relevant opinions on a fork? Would less suspension or less offset be more desirable...or less desirable?
    I couldn't agree with you more about my dealings with Sam and Chad. They have been very timely and professional to deal with. I also have the same delima with finding a fork for the Carbine29. Any ideas would be appreciated.

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    HEY Sam,

    What's your opinion on this? Is it more important to have 160mm or 51mm off set for this bike. From the response I've gotten from sellers and distributors, is that a Pike 160 with 51mm offset is not available on aftermarket. 160 with standard offset or 150 with 51mm offset are the choices.

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    Fug it! I just ordered the 150mm Pike with a 51mm offset. I Hope I dun right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Cobb View Post
    Fug it! I just ordered the 150mm Pike with a 51mm offset. I Hope I dun right.
    Good call. Mtb pilot- I'd recommend the same
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam-IntenseCustServ View Post
    Good call. Mtb pilot- I'd recommend the same
    Thanks bro.. I found a good price for one on modernbike.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam-IntenseCustServ View Post
    Good call. Mtb pilot- I'd recommend the same
    Thanks! That's what my initial gut feeling was, but then wondering if the 51mm would make it push through up hill switch backs. I don't really need 160mm anyway, especially with 29. What do you think HA will be with 150; 67.5?

    Looking forward to building and ripping with it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTB Pilot View Post
    Thanks! That's what my initial gut feeling was, but then wondering if the 51mm would make it push through up hill switch backs. I don't really need 160mm anyway, especially with 29. What do you think HA will be with 150; 67.5?

    Looking forward to building and ripping with it!
    Not exactly sure on HA. Probably still somewhere between 67-67.5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam-IntenseCustServ View Post
    Good call. Mtb pilot- I'd recommend the same
    it's entirely possible I don't know what I'm talking about, but... it looks to me like the offset is in the lowers, and the travel is controlled by the spring shaft. So if you started with the 150/51 version and replaced the spring shaft with.. it looks like rockshox p/n 11.4018.026.002 RockShox Pike Air Shaft Solo Air 160mm Travel 29 A1 - AEBike.com
    you could make it 160/51.

    sure, it's crap that you'd have to replace parts on a brand new fork, but maybe that's what you have to do to get the OEM-only combination of options. I wouldn't guess replacing a spring shaft would be that difficult, assuming that's all you have to do.

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    There is good info on this page about increasing travel from 150mm to 160mm. I'm going to do it as soon as the parts come in stock. Pike 2014

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    I have almost 100 miles on mine and its by far the best bike I have ever ridden

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    Carbine 29 Review

    Mine is nearing completion, just waiting on the fork to arrive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Cobb View Post
    Mine is nearing completion, just waiting on the fork to arrive.
    With integrated garage door opener... nice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Cobb View Post
    There is good info on this page about increasing travel from 150mm to 160mm. I'm going to do it as soon as the parts come in stock. Pike 2014
    While twiddling my thumbs waiting for my new RS Pike to arrive I decided to do a little more research about converting the 29x150mm Pike up to 160mm. Some of you have probably been frustrated that you can't purchase the 160mm travel 51mm offset version over the counter, there are only a couple of company's that SRAM has been allowing to use these on with their spec models. Intense and the Carbine29 is one.
    Anyway, I called SRAM today and picked the brain of one of their techs. Turns out all I need is a 160mm air shaft and some lubricating oil for the lower end. Here's the link, also another helpful link about reducing travel on the pike, same steps apply for increasing the travel.
    RockShox Pike Air Shaft Solo Air 160mm Travel 29 A1 - AEBike.com
    Regularbob's bike blog: Reducing the Rockshox Pike RCT3 Solo Air travel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Cobb View Post
    While twiddling my thumbs waiting for my new RS Pike to arrive I decided to do a little more research about converting the 29x150mm Pike up to 160mm.
    Thanks for posting that, I have a 160mm air shaft on the way.

    Any ideas on what RockShox 0w-30 suspension oil actually is- can I source something similar at my local moto shop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FM View Post
    Thanks for posting that, I have a 160mm air shaft on the way.

    Any ideas on what RockShox 0w-30 suspension oil actually is- can I source something similar at my local moto shop?
    I read something in the suspension forum about using Maxxima 0w-30 motor oil. That's my best guess. My Pike just showed up today, 160mm air shaft is also on the way.
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    Carbine 29 Review

    Finnished! Bike looks beautiful! Rides like the Spider Comp with more travel, "and I love how the Spider Comp rides".. Very impressed with the new RS Pike! Excellent attention to details on both the Carbine and the Pike. I'll post a ride report in a week or so, give me time to work out any kinks.

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    So... How difficult was it to change the travel in the Pike? I'm in the same situation, air shaft on the way...

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    If only they made an XL frame with at least a 25.5 top tube. Don't they know us tall 6'4"+ guys love long travel 29ers with short stems and wide bars?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash-VR View Post
    So... How difficult was it to change the travel in the Pike? I'm in the same situation, air shaft on the way...
    I have the longer air shaft sitting on the bench in the garage, I just haven't gotten to it yet. The bike feels amazing even at 150mm up front.
    I've read the SRAM breakdown a couple times, looks pretty strait forward http://cdn.sram.com/cdn/farfuture/si...e_manual_0.pdf

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    Alright, finally got around to doing the 150mm to 160mm conversion on my Pike, I just followed these instructions http://cdn.sram.com/cdn/farfuture/si...e_manual_0.pdf
    It was a piece of cake! One beer job. Ride report will have to wait until the rain stops.

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    Hi guys,

    I had placed the order for a Carbine 29 frame (S) and is about to embark on the newbuild process. The greatest challenge is the front fork. As mentioned by the bros in this forum, the LBS do not stock the Rockshox Pike with 160mm travel with offset of 51 degrees. I have to settle with the 150mm with offset instead. I will probably modify it to 160mm travel after the warranty expires. I hope Intense can work with SRAM with regards to giving Carbine 29 owners a special deal so that non OEM builders can purchase the 160mm fork with offset without much of a hassle.I personally don't mind paying abit more for this in order to unlock the full potential of the bike.

    Sam, please bring this up to your management!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kongg View Post
    Hi guys,

    I had placed the order for a Carbine 29 frame (S) and is about to embark on the newbuild process. The greatest challenge is the front fork. As mentioned by the bros in this forum, the LBS do not stock the Rockshox Pike with 160mm travel with offset of 51 degrees. I have to settle with the 150mm with offset instead. I will probably modify it to 160mm travel after the warranty expires. I hope Intense can work with SRAM with regards to giving Carbine 29 owners a special deal so that non OEM builders can purchase the 160mm fork with offset without much of a hassle.I personally don't mind paying abit more for this in order to unlock the full potential of the bike.

    Sam, please bring this up to your management!

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    Kongg, buy the 160mm air shaft and modify it yourself. It's a $38 part and only took about 20 minutes to change out. Keep your 150mm air shaft to swap back if you ever have any problems. Super easy! Here's a link to the part. RockShox Pike Air Shaft Solo Air 160mm Travel 29 A1 - AEBike.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Cobb View Post
    Kongg, buy the 160mm air shaft and modify it yourself. It's a $38 part and only took about 20 minutes to change out. Keep your 150mm air shaft to swap back if you ever have any problems. Super easy! Here's a link to the part. RockShox Pike Air Shaft Solo Air 160mm Travel 29 A1 - AEBike.com
    Just like this Regularbob's bike blog: Reducing the Rockshox Pike RCT3 Solo Air travel. Only increasing travel instead of reducing it obviously.

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    Cap Cobb,

    Thanks for the reply. Will check them out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Cobb View Post
    Alright, finally got around to doing the 150mm to 160mm conversion on my Pike, I just followed these instructions http://cdn.sram.com/cdn/farfuture/si...e_manual_0.pdf
    It was a piece of cake! One beer job. Ride report will have to wait until the rain stops.
    I'm sure the rain has stopped by now... Come on man, what's your take? So little on this bike out there; Very curious to hear anyones take. I'm about to get home in a few days and going to start building the frame that I got as a warranty for my Carbine. I loved the Carbine, but have moved on to 29ers and am looking forward to seeing how this compares to the Carbine 275 and my current FS 29er.

    I'm going to run the 150 Pike I bought for a while to make sure I like the frame enough to keep it. If I keep it, I'm planning on doing the CCDB or Monarch Plus rear upgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MTB Pilot View Post
    I'm sure the rain has stopped by now... Come on man, what's your take? So little on this bike out there; Very curious to hear anyones take. I'm about to get home in a few days and going to start building the frame that I got as a warranty for my Carbine. I loved the Carbine, but have moved on to 29ers and am looking forward to seeing how this compares to the Carbine 275 and my current FS 29er.

    I'm going to run the 150 Pike I bought for a while to make sure I like the frame enough to keep it. If I keep it, I'm planning on doing the CCDB or Monarch Plus rear upgrade.

    MORE REVIEW AND Carbine 29 PORN PLEASE!
    Yeah the rain has stopped, I still have only a handful of rides on the C29 and I am still fiddling with air pressures and dampening. That being said, I'm really happy with the bike so far. I'm still on the fence about bumping the fork up to 160mm, I do like the bottomless feel but the steering is a little slower than it was in the 150mm position, I kept the 150mm air shaft just in case I want to go back, kinda doubt it though. The rear suspension is amazing as expected, very active, bottomless feel, a little more mid stroke support than my old Spider Comp or Tracer29. Rear end stiffness is good, the bike has slightly longer chainstays than the Spider comp, its not really noticeable though. All around, I'm stoked with this bike! I just need a little more time in the saddle. Crappy picture but it's what I have on hand.

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    Hi Thelma,

    Which issue of MBUK was the Carbine 29 reviewed?I want to download the digital copy of the magazine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kongg View Post
    Hi Thelma,

    Which issue of MBUK was the Carbine 29 reviewed?I want to download the digital copy of the magazine.

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    This might be the one you're looking for

    http://www.extrauk.co.uk/reviews/368..._Carbine29.pdf
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    So I finally got back from work in Japan and built my Carbine 29. The first thing I have to say is that pictures online DO NOT do this frame justice. There are really nice and obvious improvements from my original Carbine frame from 2012. The orange is stunning! The cable routing is 100% better, though I wish they would have continued the internal routing through chain stay for brake as they did with shifter cable. My large frame with headset, BB, seat post collar and rear axle weighed in at 6lb 11oz and complete build is 28lb 2oz. I only got about six miles in yesterday due to contaminated brake pads making my ride a bit scary after they heated up and still a bit of jet lag. My initial impression was "wow this thing is big and I feel really high and on top of the bike." Once I started riding it felt much mor comfortable and similar to my Carbine setup as 26" and 27.5". I am surprised at how agile the bike feels after reading the "Bike Magazine" review. It's a fast racing feel and I had no problem with manualing, wheelies and small jumps and hops. I haven't done any high speed tight weavey trails yet, but don't think it will be a bad performer. I will get more miles on my 3 weeks off and post a proper review later. As for now I will just post lots of bike porn; Intense, you guys need to put better pics on your website, cause the ones you have now don't sell this bike, IMHO. Also, I bought "Rockguardz" carbon VVP linkage guard that is designed for Santa Cruz tall boy, but with a little dremel action it fits pretty well. My first Carbine's linkage got pretty beat up from the rocks here in Arizona. ENJOY!
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    My build is:
    RS Pike 150mm w 51mm offset
    KS LEV 150mm
    Derby wide rims with DT350 hubs, DT Comp spokes and alloy nipples(1910 gr with tape and valves)
    Schwalbe HD 2.35 w SS and Bontrager SE-4 Pro 2.3
    XTR trail brakes w 180 f/16 r rotors
    X0-1 drivetrain except for older X0 crank with spider less Wolftooth Components 30t ring
    Ergon SME-1 saddle and GE-1 grips
    Enve DH carbon bar 800mm; More than likely to cut down to 780mm
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