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    MTB Pilot,

    I see you have a Mach 429 in the background, what do you think of the M429. I know the Carbine will be a lot plusher and the 429 much more efficient. But curious on your take on those great bikes.

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    It appears that the article mentioned by Thelma appeared in the December 2013 issue of Mountain Biking UK. The review is found on page 104. The Carbine 29 was rated 4 1/2 over 5, it scored better over others like the GT Sensor Pro Alloy, Devinci Troy Carbon SL, Lapierre Spicy 527 EI, Santa Cruz Bronson C and Marin Attack Trail Quad Carbon XT Pro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by motoguru2007 View Post
    MTB Pilot,

    I see you have a Mach 429 in the background, what do you think of the M429. I know the Carbine will be a lot plusher and the 429 much more efficient. But curious on your take on those great bikes.
    Well, the 429c is my favorite bike of all time, since I started riding mt. bikes in '94. I never liked 29ers in their early inception; I felt way up high and clumsy. The latest generation and improvements I'm down with. The 29" wheel is a no-brainer here in AZ rock and chunk. That being said, I really like the feel of the 429, as I feel like I'm in the bike and not way upon top; At 6' I ride a medium frame. I have a Fox 34 140, shimmed down to 130 and sagged to use only 125mm. The 32 was just too weak for my 205# geared up azz and the AZ terrain. It's really fast and agile, and with only 100mm in the back, handles AZ chunk really well; I kind of glide over everything with speed. The bikes geo and handling just feels really dialed and I can't complain about it at all. It's a bike I can ride all day and most all conditions.

    I put my Derby Wide rimmed wheels on the Carbine and am running carbon Havens on the 429c; About a 320g diff. The 429 has XTR 2x10 and Carbine has X01 with old X0 crank and Wolftooth direct mount ring. Both have 150mm KS LEV posts, descent to large sized tires, XTR/XT trail pedals and brakes, and both weigh in at 28lbs 6oz exactly. If I eventually go with the XTR 1x11 that is coming on the 429, it will lose a few ounces.

    So far, 25 miles of chunky, technical terrain, the Carbine is a real performer. I rode my original carbine as a 26 and 27.5, and love the bike!! I do feel a little on-top of the 29, but I got used to it and feels like the Carbine 275, but with wagon wheels. It is a monster truck, as has been described before in other reviews, and just crushes and rolls over anything in front of it. The rear triangle feels stiffer on the 29 version compared to my original Carbine frame. It's very fast and responsive, and I'm not having any problems maneuvering it in any tight situations or switchbacks. Climbing is very efficient with no feed back in the pedals and the rear end stays stuck to the ground. I may have detected a little wandering in slow chunky climbs, but that also could have been from my "not in riding shape," tired azz. The RS Pike is an incredible fork!! I really like the Fox 34 on the 429, but if you want 34-35mm stanchions at 140mm plus, the RS Pike edges out Fox as an all around better performer. The one thing I have noticed though, and I think it is designed into the fork, is the lowers on the Pike seem to flex back and forth, longitudinally, at high speed on rough, small bump trails. It's not "noodley" like a Fox 32 120+mm fork that feels like its going to snap in half, but just this little flex at the bottom of the lowers; May be all my imagination The thing that has surprised me the most, next to the rear triangle stiffness, is how plush the Fox float CTD is and how well it handles slamming into the chunk at speed. The float on my '12 Carbine frame was nowhere near as plush and felt like the rear end would get a little hung up in the chunk, even with 650b wheels; Not the Carbine 29. Thought if I decided to keep the bike to ride in some Enduro, Super-D races, that I would want the plushness of the CCDB, Monarch Plus, or Float X. As of now with the little time I have on it, I won't replace the Float unless it fails. The bike is long, kind of feels like the XL Session 88 I had, but still very maneuverable and much more nimble than a DH bike. I'm not sure what those guys were talking about in Bike Mag's "bike bible" review with respect to manuals and getting it airborne!?!? I don't think it's hard with this bike at all, in fact, with the longer stays, it's quite easy to balance with the front off the ground. Wheelies are really easy, I have no problem manually over chunk at high and low speed and feels balanced in the little 2 feet of air I flew it in a couple of times.

    That's all I know so far, but report back over the next few months as I get more time on the bike.

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    Hey Sam,

    Saw the video of you in Facebook ripping the trails and having great air time near the end of it. All these before hitting the office?!? You have a dream job and you ride well.

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    MTB Pilot, how do you like your Derby wide wheels? I'm looking at those for my C29 also.

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    Sam, have you guys rode the 29 with 140mm travel front? I'm guessing numbers would make HA and SA about a degree steeper and BB height 13.4". I'm liking the idea of a 140mm front most of the time and changing it to 150 for certain races.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kongg View Post
    Hey Sam,

    Saw the video of you in Facebook ripping the trails and having great air time near the end of it. All these before hitting the office?!? You have a dream job and you ride well.
    Thanks, and yes we try to get out either before or after hitting the office quite a bit
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    Quote Originally Posted by robnow View Post
    Sam, have you guys rode the 29 with 140mm travel front? I'm guessing numbers would make HA and SA about a degree steeper and BB height 13.4". I'm liking the idea of a 140mm front most of the time and changing it to 150 for certain races.
    You're basically at Spider 29 Comp geo with that fork setup. Im sure it would still ride fine, but we only run our Carbine 29's with 150-160mm forks
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    Hi Guys, just wondering whether anyone has tried a coil shock on the 29? Dirt Mag seem to think it would work well. Any views / experiences?

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    Does anyone know where I could get a custom Carbine 29 build done? Most places are offering either the X0 build kit, or frame only - but ideally I'd like to get a 160mm Pike (only available with the build kit AFAIK) plus a CCDBA, XX1 and Shimano brakes. Any bikes shops able to put that together?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamB View Post
    Does anyone know where I could get a custom Carbine 29 build done? Most places are offering either the X0 build kit, or frame only - but ideally I'd like to get a 160mm Pike (only available with the build kit AFAIK) plus a CCDBA, XX1 and Shimano brakes. Any bikes shops able to put that together?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamB View Post
    Does anyone know where I could get a custom Carbine 29 build done? Most places are offering either the X0 build kit, or frame only - but ideally I'd like to get a 160mm Pike (only available with the build kit AFAIK) plus a CCDBA, XX1 and Shimano brakes. Any bikes shops able to put that together?
    either of these guys can put together custom builds for you:

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    Ah - should have been clearer! I'm perfectly happy to build my own bike (put my new M9 together last night ), but buying everything together almost always works out cheaper than buying parts separately.

    In particular, the combination of OEM-only fork and CCDBA - if I can only get the fork in a build kit, then I'll need to swap out a whole load of parts to get the build I'm after. If the build kit only comes with a Fox, not the CCDBA, then I'm going to lose money trying to sell the Fox shock on...

    Edit: Thanks Sam - I'll see if I can get Wrench Science or Fanatik to swap out some bits and get my ideal build together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamB View Post
    Ah - should have been clearer! I'm perfectly happy to build my own bike (put my new M9 together last night ), but buying everything together almost always works out cheaper than buying parts separately.

    In particular, the combination of OEM-only fork and CCDBA - if I can only get the fork in a build kit, then I'll need to swap out a whole load of parts to get the build I'm after. If the build kit only comes with a Fox, not the CCDBA, then I'm going to lose money trying to sell the Fox shock on...

    Edit: Thanks Sam - I'll see if I can get Wrench Science or Fanatik to swap out some bits and get my ideal build together.
    SamB,

    You can get the 160mm air shaft from AEbikes (as recommended by CaptCobb in this forum) to convert the off the shelf 150mm travel RS pike to the 160mm travel RS pike.

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    Is there anywhere in the southeast that I could demo the Carbine 29? I'm in the market for a new bike and really want to test it out.

    Also at 5'8" what size should I ride? It seems from reviews that Intense runs larger then other medium size bikes.

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    I'm 5'8" and on a medium with a 50mm stem

    Quote Originally Posted by ChiliDog76 View Post
    Is there anywhere in the southeast that I could demo the Carbine 29? I'm in the market for a new bike and really want to test it out.

    Also at 5'8" what size should I ride? It seems from reviews that Intense runs larger then other medium size bikes.
    But I like my <i>pedally</i> bikes long so I think the small might be the better fit for you. Also these bikes have a long wheelbase, I imagine the small would handle better.

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    Is there anywhere in the southeast that I could demo the Carbine 29? I'm in the market for a new bike and really want to test it out.

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    As I said before what country

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwsurfbum View Post
    As I said before what country.
    Southeast US. Georgia, North Carolina, Tennessee, Alabama, etc

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    Ah ha can't help you then

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    Just got my carbine 29, only a couple rides in but I'm loving it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaseco View Post
    Just got my carbine 29, only a couple rides in but I'm loving it.
    Pics or it's not real..

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    Hi guys, this is my Carbine, here you can see near Garda Lake in northern Italy

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    That view over the lakes is gorgeous.

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    Here is my c29, crappy garage foto but it's hard to stop riding this thing out on the trail. I'll get some pictures on the trail tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vwsurfbum View Post
    That view over the lakes is gorgeous.

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    I like that pic too. Jorge how do you do that toy effect?

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    I used a Sony Camera, there is a Toy effect
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    Carbine 29 Review-image.jpgCarbine 29 Review-image.jpg
    A couple of pics from the ride today.

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    A little photo editing for the carbine
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    This is literally the best bike that I have EVER owned, and i've pretty much had them all. I'm not sure what Bike mag and their "bible" test were smoking but this thing is a beast...as great as it is, it's even better with the CCDB CS on it. Highly recommend. Sam is also very responsive and easy to deal with. proud to own an INTENSE.

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    Every time I go ride this dang bike, I just want to go ride it again!

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    Tomorrow bike festival Riva del Garda, me, my bike and friends.

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    Carbine 29 Review

    I agree. It's pretty rad. I love it with the 140 fork as it made the bike a bit more "flow trail" friendly but yet it still rips downhill. Set a bunch of my fastest downhill runs on it on the 2nd ride. Everything I was hoping for in a trail/all mountain bike.

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    I've been riding mine for about a month and have had a few dropped chains. I'm running an XT 24/38 chainset and a clutch mech. Is there a dual guide that fits the frame? It looks like the lower pivots are going to be in the way.

    Otherwise it's awesome. Out riding with a friend who's been a bit faster than me on a downhill track and he crashed in front of me. He said he was pushing too hard because I was keeping up with him.

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    MTB Pilot, thanks for the comparison with the 429. What I would like to know is, are you a lot faster all around with the429 or has the c29 been competing pretty closely? Thanks

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    Anyone else getting a popping or creaking coming from the rear on hard peddling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaseco View Post
    Anyone else getting a popping or creaking coming from the rear on hard peddling?
    yes, trying to figure it out

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    Mine started only after riding in a bit of rain. Then spraying the bike off. I pulled the bottom bracket and 're greased, also I pulled the rear hub apart abd 're greased. Nothing changed. I'm pretty sure it's in the linkage.

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    I'm not experiencing the poping noise on this frame, although my Spider Comp frame did make the noise that you guys are describing. It was coming from the upper pivot on the upper swing link, I found that pulling it apart and greasing it would cure the problem for several rides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Cobb View Post
    I'm not experiencing the poping noise on this frame, although my Spider Comp frame did make the noise that you guys are describing. It was coming from the upper pivot on the upper swing link, I found that pulling it apart and greasing it would cure the problem for several rides.
    I've cured the creaking on my Carbine using this method... as well check the dropouts and re-grease the hardware... one other common cause is chainring bolts.

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    I'll check that top pivot. Hopefully that helps. Thanks for the responses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaseco View Post
    Anyone else getting a popping or creaking coming from the rear on hard peddling?
    I had the cassette/ xd driver interface creak on my x01 build. Taking it apart and lubing it helped. I just got some new wheels so I'm waiting to see if this xd driver/ cassette interface creaks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Cobb View Post
    I'm not experiencing the poping noise on this frame, although my Spider Comp frame did make the noise that you guys are describing. It was coming from the upper pivot on the upper swing link, I found that pulling it apart and greasing it would cure the problem for several rides.
    Captain Cobb you are a bike whisperer. That worked perfectly, I just pulled the bolt out of that top pivot put some grease on it and I was silent once again. Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaseco View Post
    Captain Cobb you are a bike whisperer. That worked perfectly, I just pulled the bolt out of that top pivot put some grease on it and I was silent once again. Thank you
    I'm glad that did the trick for you. Thanks for the rep.

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    Just finish build my C29 few weeks ago, what a fantastic bike.

    However I got a question about the rear shock travel, which hole should I use to get the 140mm setup ? upper one or lower one ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kin1010 View Post
    Just finish build my C29 few weeks ago, what a fantastic bike.

    However I got a question about the rear shock travel, which hole should I use to get the 140mm setup ? upper one or lower one ?
    Upper hole, also be aware that you need to reset shock air pressure and sag for each hole.

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    Thanks Captain Cobb

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaseco View Post
    MTB Pilot, thanks for the comparison with the 429. What I would like to know is, are you a lot faster all around with the429 or has the c29 been competing pretty closely? Thanks
    Sorry for my tardiness, but been on the road WAY TOO MUCH and way too little riding.

    Overall, I don't have enough time on the carbine for really say, but I feel so far pretty close. I believe with today's bikes being so efficient, that it really comes down to my fitness. I've been up and down since Feb. due to work and sickness. Both bikes are incredibly efficient. Over all flat and groomed trails, not a lot of that here in AZ, they are pretty close giving an edge to 429. Climbing long miles the 429 has a bit of an edge, but when it comes to the roughest terrain and descending the Carbine has the edge. This bike descends as well as my Session 88 that I had for a few years.

    Granted these bikes are set up quite differently, but they weigh about the same. 429 is 2x10 with 100mm in rear and 130mm in front, and the Carbine is 1x11 with 150mm in front.

    One of these days I'll be able to answer your question more thoroughly.
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