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    2014 Carbine 275

    Wheelbase have told me the 2014 frame is going up in price by £300, or $500 in funny money.

    So, what has changed to warrant the big price hike???

    £500 cheaper than the Bronson with Kashima was an easy decision to make, the now £200 difference not so when considering the warranty and customer service 'differences'.

    So again, what has changed for 2014?

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    Carbines come from overseas, so maybe the exchange rate changed.

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    I have a 2012 Carbine but may sell it to a friend if a new Carbine comes out with different paint and internal cable routing and stealth routing for the dropper post. Does anyone know if the 2014s will have these upgrades. I will definitely be getting another Carbine though. This bike is the best ride Ive ever owned from Intense. Tempted to try the Carbine 29er but the 27.5 wheels are too much fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ridnw/bear View Post
    I have a 2012 Carbine but may sell it to a friend if a new Carbine comes out with different paint and internal cable routing and stealth routing for the dropper post.
    The Carbine frames have had stealth routing for a dropper post for a few months now. I just got one of the frames in May. The new paint colors and decals for 2014 just came out recently. I still prefer the black 2013 version though. Unless I'm mistaken, I dont think theyve incorporated internal cable routing yet.

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    Anyone know if the 2014 Carbine 275 rear section is a purpose built 275 rear with standard G1 dropouts or if it still uses the stretched G1 dropouts and special brake adaptor?

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    Pretty sure no changes to the dropouts for 2014.

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    I was at the factory last week and actually asked about that. Was told that it is still the same rear end for both 26 and 27.5.

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    2014 Intense Carbine 27.5 SRAM X01 with 2014 Rock SHox Pike 160mm

    Check this one out....

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    Nice build!

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    Got enough spacers underneath that stem? Jesus.
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    looks like an XL would be a better fit, too bad they don't make one...

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    So the geo for 2014 is the same or was it changed to the Tracer 275 geo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balakeka View Post
    So the geo for 2014 is the same or was it changed to the Tracer 275 geo.
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    Getting a water bottle in and out with that CCDBA would be *****, no?

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    holy spacers and seat post batman

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    I wasn't sure about that colour, but it's def a grower.

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    New colors?

    The new colors for the Carbine do not look as sweet as the red or flo green. I know they had a problem with the paint chipping off in chucks, so looks like they decided to just paint where the rocks don't hit. kinda ugly IMHO.

    I have the naked Carbine, but wanted the flo green at the time of purchase. Unfortunately it was no longer available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluesrider View Post
    The new colors for the Carbine do not look as sweet as the red or flo green. I know they had a problem with the paint chipping off in chucks, so looks like they decided to just paint where the rocks don't hit. kinda ugly IMHO.

    I have the naked Carbine, but wanted the flo green at the time of purchase. Unfortunately it was no longer available.
    horses for courses, my previous Carbine was the raw black and I found the colour pretty boring and bland, and yes the paint chips made it look more worn than it really was...and I know same happned to a mates red one...

    The new colour reminds of their F1 themed M9's they did last year...or as many have metioned a Ferrari!

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    Did they stiffen the rear triangle? my friends had a good time making fun of my very "flexible loosey goosey rear" while riding behind me!

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    Here's my second carbine... That colour is sexy
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    The rear end on the Carbine is flexy compared to any other Intense bike, because of the lack of crossbrace....but I don't really feel it on the trail!
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    Until you ride something like the Pivot Mach 6 which replaced my Carbine,stiffness is real noticeable on fast flowy berms and especially fast switchy non berm turns and fast rock gardens.I beat all my Strava times by a good margin on Mach 6.not knocking the Carbine,all in all liked the frame and would be stellar except for the rear,Intense should and could do something to improve stiffness.I actually broke a shock linkage on mine and you could see the obvious stress in aluminum from all the movement from flex.

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    Interesting observation... I have noticed a tire mark on the inside of the right triangle after a crash that I could not find any explanation for, but now it makes sense. Despite, I don't notice any flex, although my riding level is not that aggressive.

    UPDATE: Now that I think about it, a day after the crash I have noticed that the connection between the seat stay and the aluminum link (lower left corner of the picture) was loose that I had to tighten. It was so loose that it made noticeable noise. I am sure that the loose connection had something to do with the rub.

    I am just having a hard time to imagine how this frame can be flexi. When trying very hard to deflect the frame with my own (210 lbs) weight, I don't notice any, no matter how hard I try.

    Quote Originally Posted by curtiso View Post
    The rear end on the Carbine is flexy compared to any other Intense bike, because of the lack of crossbrace....but I don't really feel it on the trail!
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    That was another issue with tire rub on occasion,other then scratches and you could feel it rub during aggressive riding don't believe it will fail,but nontheless this should not happen! after the linkage failure which also forced the drive side chain stay into my big ring and cut a gouge in it,which to Intense credit replaced entire rear triangle linkage and bearings.but damage was done and no longer felt confident in it's integrity.

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    The rear triangle on my Carbine has felt flexy at times. It was really bad when I had a Fox 32 150 Talas. Now I'm running a 36 Van and the rear is much more stable. Huge improvement! I also run Velocity P35 rims which are pretty stout.

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    ……So you mean your fork was flexy?

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    Had a Fox 36 on mine,check your upper linkage on occasion for stress cracks around bolt holes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Throttlemire View Post
    The rear triangle on my Carbine has felt flexy at times. It was really bad when I had a Fox 32 150 Talas. Now I'm running a 36 Van and the rear is much more stable. Huge improvement! I also run Velocity P35 rims which are pretty stout.
    I have to disagree a bit with the " super flexy" characterization of the Carbine. YES, it's not the stiffest rear triangle I've ever been on, but the average plus trail rider won't have any complaint with the stiffness. The scenario quoted doesn't even make sense. If you had a flexy 32/150 on the front, then your going to notice a noodley feeling the whole length of the bike, if the rear is a flexy as your stating. If you put a beefier, stiffer fork on the front, then you would have an exacerbated flexy feeling in the back, given the same frame with the same amount of flex as before. Basically if you stiffen up the front, you would feel the rear flex more noticeably. Your saying a stiffer fork stiffened up the whole bike; Doesn't work that way. So basically you were feeling a very flexy F32/150, which it is, and contributing it to the frame. I had a 32/150 on a 2010 Trek Remedy 9.9 and replaced it with a 36/160, so I know the feeling and how it improved the front, but highlighted the rear flex. Edit:I guess by saying stable, you could mean now that the front isn't flexing as much, that the rear flexes less as far how frequently you feel it. When you put it in high load situations though, you would notice more flex with a stiffer front end.

    Techfersure is an advanced rider and hucks and jumps everything, according to his post, so yes he would probably call it flexy. A "wet noodle" it is not, not even close. I can do a little hucking, not a lot of jumping and I ride the most consistently rocky, chunky terrain, but I don't think it's that bad and only really noticeable when at the highest speeds in berms and chunk. I'm not a pro, so the little flex that can be felt in those situations never discouraged me about the integrity of the frame.

    Another big factor is the wheels your running. I have run my carbine with 26" carbon Havens, 27.5 Flow EXs and L-B carbon rims with 2.0/1.8 double butted spokes. By far, the most flex I felt in the rear triangle was with the aluminum flow wheels. Put a stiff carbon rim in the rear triangle and I felt a lot less flex. I found a crack in my Carbine frame but it was right where the aluminum interfaces with the carbon at the area the direct mount FD meets on the seat tube. If your running a 135x10 rear hub, the skewer will contribute to the flex you feel also. Case in point, my new Pivot 429c has to be the beefiest carbon frame I've ever seen, besides a DH sled, and with the alloy DT swiss XR 1501 wheels, I can feel a bit of flex if I torque down on the pedal sitting still, but with the carbon Derby "Wide" rims that I built with 2.0/1.8 DB spokes I built, I feel a lot less flex.

    It's not the stiffest frame in the world, but it's no where near a "noodle" IMO. Infact, I thinks it is a great riding frame and very capable in the 140-150mm range; I do prefer DW Link suspension over VPP though. Then again it's all relative to what you rode before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by big bear View Post
    ……So you mean your fork was flexy?
    Yeah, 32 stanchions with 150mm travel is not a good mix. Noodly.

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    Ok,maybe a wee bit exaggeration on the noodle like rear but that is my experience.I had a 10mm Hadley through axle hub and Fox 36 Van,still so flexy that it had tire rub on rear and of course the failed linkage from the stress,and the frame at time of failure had about eights month on it! my friends had a good time at my expense about my rear having a mind of it's own! and yes you can feel the difference between a rear with more flex,I have a SS2 and now the Mach 6 to compare,when you come into fast flow berm runs you can feel a frame like the Carbine tend to throw your center off almost as if it is trying to right you and especially as you pump out of a turn.right tool for the right job! the Carbine is a great frame for those who want an AM bike that is a diverse trail bike that you might on occasion push.

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    @MTB Pilot. Thanks for the input. I never said it was super flexy or a wet noodle. Those are your words. My post mentioned my wheels, which are P35 rims, so I doubt those are flexing too much.

    Also, I had to replace all the bearings at six months. The LBS said this was because of the rear suspension twisting and flexing so much that it destroys the bearings. He mentioned that he doesn't see that on SC bikes so quickly and those are VPP as well.

    It's a great bike and has improved a lot with the stiffer fork. I'm just stating my experience. Your mileage may very.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Throttlemire View Post
    @MTB Pilot. Thanks for the input. I never said it was super flexy or a wet noodle. Those are your words. My post mentioned my wheels, which are P35 rims, so I doubt those are flexing too much.

    Also, I had to replace all the bearings at six months. The LBS said this was because of the rear suspension twisting and flexing so much that it destroys the bearings. He mentioned that he doesn't see that on SC bikes so quickly and those are VPP as well.

    It's a great bike and has improved a lot with the stiffer fork. I'm just stating my experience. Your mileage may very.
    I failed to mention the bearing part about my linkage failure,I too had to replace all bearings,the shock linkage ones were seized up and lower were sluggish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Throttlemire View Post
    @MTB Pilot. Thanks for the input. I never said it was super flexy or a wet noodle. Those are your words. My post mentioned my wheels, which are P35 rims, so I doubt those are flexing too much.

    Also, I had to replace all the bearings at six months. The LBS said this was because of the rear suspension twisting and flexing so much that it destroys the bearings. He mentioned that he doesn't see that on SC bikes so quickly and those are VPP as well.

    It's a great bike and has improved a lot with the stiffer fork. I'm just stating my experience. Your mileage may very.
    I never said those were your words. Your right, everybodies milage may vary, and that is why I jumped in. I've never been on any frame that didn't has some flex and I've been on a lot. Just like every other biking product out there, some love a product, some hate it, some have bad luck mechanically, some never have a single problem, etc., etc. It was starting to sound like a complete Carbine bash fest. It's a great bike, but if your a 200+ lbs rider and want tear up Whistler or slam berms at the highest speeds, you will probably have a some flex. I had my Carbine frame for about 15 months and no linkage problems or bearing problems, but I don't ride in mud and clean my bikes with a wet towel or sponge. Sam told me they made some changes on the lower linkage interface with the chainstays; Don't know the specifics.

    Anyway just putting in my point of view. Carry-on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by curtiso View Post
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    does anyone know wich is exactly shox dimension,and particulary this ccdb. i am thinking cahnge into to shox in order to be more agresive down hill (obviously is not a down hilll bike=

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    Quote Originally Posted by Throttlemire View Post
    The rear triangle on my Carbine has felt flexy at times. It was really bad when I had a Fox 32 150 Talas. Now I'm running a 36 Van and the rear is much more stable. Huge improvement! I also run Velocity P35 rims which are pretty stout.
    did you change also the shox ?, i can see your decision will do more agressive on down hills.

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    Just a crazy idea....
    Would a tracer 275 rear triangle fit on a carbine?
    That could make beautiful music..bigger tires, larger brake rotors and G-1 dropouts, stiffer
    Anybody know?
    I have both bikes and cant decide which one i like better

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    I had my 2014 Carbine 275 (matte black/yellow) delivered a few weeks back and took It out for a proper test run this weekend. Wow!! It was pretty amazing, nice and stiff (I didn't notice any flex as mentioned above but I wasn't doing anything super aggressive), amazing climber (despite steep HTA and 160mm fork), super confident on the descents. I was cleaning rocky climbs that I was walking up a few months back on my Rocky Element....despite the slush, ice and snow I was riding through (I'm in NY). Overall super pleased with the bike, and am loving the 1x11, reverb dropper etc. I spent a few months figuring out what bike to buy, and had an order for a new yeti and changed to this and couldnt be more pleased. Glad I listened to a good friends advice to "buy as expensive a bike as you can afford" (or a little more in this case!).

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