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    WTF is up with Roseanne Barr?

    Is it just me or are you seeing adverts for Roseanne Barr videos too? It this the gentler Roseanne we're seeing? Must Roseanne Barr video adverts be used to pay for our Internet follies? Is there a mountainbiker in the universe who would buy a Roseanne Barr video (besides Westin of course). What ever happened to the good old skanky Roseanne?

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    You can use the CK headset as a cawck ring...how bout that for an image. Otherwise, they are are really good headsets made by a really cool company that wears wool, has a woman that would not be allowed to have her choice of significant other in Idaho, generates very little wastewater from the manufacturing process, is Roseanne-free, makes you wait in long lines, smells funny, probably hires artsy-fartsy French people who smell worse than the building, serves overprices liquor...headsets.

    What is the attraction to Chris King Headsets? Is it one of those things where supporting Chris King makes someone feel superior to an Cane Creek patron??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Visicypher

    What is the attraction to Chris King Headsets? Is it one of those things where supporting Chris King makes someone feel superior to an Cane Creek patron??
    Light, cheap , strong , pick two. They are light and strong . The scales and tales don' t lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visicypher
    What is the attraction to Chris King Headsets? Is it one of those things where supporting Chris King makes someone feel superior to an Cane Creek patron??
    I'm wondering when we can buy our special wool King headset...

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    Wow! Someone actually thought I was serious!

    Evel you should probably know that I have CK headsets on 3 bikes. I was just mocking another poster from different thread for the amusement of Twisted. He is as demented as I. Nice spec's on your Bullit. My '03 Bullit is spec'd like this:

    Easton Scandium DH bar
    Thomson stem & seatpost
    X-9 rear derailleur and shifters
    XT front derailleur
    Hayes 8" hydros
    Mavic 3.1 Tubeless DH Rims (wider than normal 3.1s) on XT rear, and Marzocchi 20mm front
    Hussefelt dual rings with E-13 DRS
    Maxxis Minion 2.5 Supertacky DH F&R
    Sherman Slider (I really want a 36RC2)
    and best of all...all of it is matte black!!

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    I'm gonna hold out for the cardboard one scented with patchoulli...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Visicypher
    I'm gonna hold out for the cardboard one scented with patchoulli...
    Only if you can buy it from a nazi, skydiving clown.

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    I hear you can find one of those behind the counter of the Flicks, or in the bathroom handing out warm towels.
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    might be able to help on the 36RC2

    Hey Visicypher, if you are interested leave me a message. hows better than wholesale sound? CK is nice stuff, is it worth the money? hasnt been proven in my eyes. MY .02


    Quote Originally Posted by Visicypher
    Wow! Someone actually thought I was serious!

    Evel you should probably know that I have CK headsets on 3 bikes. I was just mocking another poster from different thread for the amusement of Twisted. He is as demented as I. Nice spec's on your Bullit. My '03 Bullit is spec'd like this:

    Easton Scandium DH bar
    Thomson stem & seatpost
    X-9 rear derailleur and shifters
    XT front derailleur
    Hayes 8" hydros
    Mavic 3.1 Tubeless DH Rims (wider than normal 3.1s) on XT rear, and Marzocchi 20mm front
    Hussefelt dual rings with E-13 DRS
    Maxxis Minion 2.5 Supertacky DH F&R
    Sherman Slider (I really want a 36RC2)
    and best of all...all of it is matte black!!

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    Dirk, back to Roseanne Barr (warning: no bike content in this post) I agree... Its disturbing seeing the old nag dressed up with a blonde wig, cowboy hat, and guitar, ready to do a Lamb Chop skit. I would rather see Pee Wee Herman brought back than see Roseanne doing Children's television.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rocknrollbarbie
    Dirk, back to Roseanne Barr (warning: no bike content in this post) I agree... Its disturbing seeing the old nag dressed up with a blonde wig, cowboy hat, and guitar, ready to do a Lamb Chop skit. I would rather see Pee Wee Herman brought back than see Roseanne doing Children's television.
    Pee Wee Herman and Rodeanne Barr. Hmmmm..... The mind wanders. Anyone else want to field this one?
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    Hmmm....

    The mental image is of someone eating sloppy joe at an adult film event while wearing a blonde wig, highwater pants, a cowboy hat and battling the noodle.
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    Chris King headsets are warranteed for 10 years. Mine has been on a couple frames and will likely see a couple more. We put a race face on my wifes bike because we couldn't get a king....it fell apart within a month. There are other nice headsets out there though for less money than a king.

    King hubs (rear) on the other hand are widely used in trials. 72 engagement points. Solid engagement....most of the time. Strong. Most hubs will blow apart under the forces from trials riding. However, I do find it humorous to see king hubs on XC bikes. Unless your racing for a world cup medal, you probably spent too much money for something that just looks and sounds cool (or obnoxious, depending on your viewpoint). They are totally unnecessary for most people.

    That was probably about $0.03 worth.
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    People actually took you seriously. Bow down to the power of Twisted. haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zebdi
    However, I do find it humorous to see king hubs on XC bikes. Unless your racing for a world cup medal, you probably spent too much money for something that just looks and sounds cool (or obnoxious, depending on your viewpoint). They are totally unnecessary for most people.
    Interesting position, as usual. Applying that same logic, I could argue that anyone riding cross country on anything nicer or more expensive than, say, an el-cheapo rigid steel singlespeed, has "spent too much money for something that just looks cool." I mean, who really needs gears or suspension unless "your [sic] racing for a world cup medal?"

    (That said, I'm diggin' the ManOwar avatar.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Earthpig
    Interesting position, as usual. Applying that same logic, I could argue that anyone riding cross country on anything nicer or more expensive than, say, an el-cheapo rigid steel singlespeed, has "spent too much money for something that just looks cool." I mean, who really needs gears or suspension unless "your [sic] racing for a world cup medal?"
    Word! (maybe I over-generalized a bit.....not unlike telling everyone where the white trash live in the valley) But it still makes me giggle a little to see/hear them, but not nearly as bad as shaved legs (but man do they look fast).

    And nice catch on my typo; I'm starting to spell the rest of this board.


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    (That said, I'm diggin' the ManOwar avatar.)
    I'm glad someone enjoys it. Since the resolution is so poor on avatars...
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    ManOwar!!!

    I like these ManOwar lyrics about group mountain bike rides:

    By moonlight we ride
    Ten thousands side by side
    With swords drawn held high
    Our whips and armours shine
    Hail to thee our infantry
    Still brave beyond the grave
    All have sworn the eternal vow
    The time to strike is now
    Chorus

    Kill, kill, Oh !
    Kill, kill, Oh !
    Kill, kill, Oh !
    Kill, kill, Oh !

    Great stuff. ManOwar - official metal band of Canyon County.

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    Dialectical materialism is the philosophical basis of Marxism as defined by later Communists and their Parties (sometimes called "orthodox" Marxism). As the name signals, it is an outgrowth of both Hegel's dialectics and Ludwig Feuerbach's and Karl Marx's philosophical materialism, and is most directly traced to Marx's fellow thinker, Friedrich Engels. It uses the concepts of thesis, antithesis and synthesis to explain the growth and development of human history. It should however be noted that dialectical materialism cannot be reduced to this interpretation alone.

    For formal approaches, the main predication of 'dialectical opposition or contradiction' must be understood as 'some sense' opposition between the objects involved in a directly associated context. 'Dialectical contradiction' is not reducible to simple 'opposites' or 'negation'.

    Some Marxist theorists, critical of dialectical materialism, have called for a reassessment of the place of Engels' work Dialectics of Nature in the Marxist canon. They note that the term "dialectical materialism" originates with Russian theorist Georgi Plekhanov and that Marx preferred the term "the materialist conception of history", which was later shortened to "historical materialism" by Engels. This, they argue, limits his method within a specifically human, sociological context, distinguishing it from a universalizing theory. And apart from the historical materialists, other thinkers in Marxist philosophy have had recourse to the original texts of Marx and Engels and have created other Marxist philosophical projects and concepts which are alternatives, and sometimes rivals, to the often-Party-sponsored ideas of "diamat" (an abbreviation for "dialectical materialism").

    While dialectical materialism has been traditionally associated almost exclusively with Marxism, some claim that the philosophy is applicable to a non-Marxist worldview as well. There is nothing in either the concept of dialectic as elaborated by Hegel or in materialism itself which requires Marxism. However, because Marxism is essentially free of traditional theological influences, it is particularly well-suited to dialectical materialism, and a comparable political system based on the philosophy has not yet emerged.
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    So how many miles is it from Boise to Moab? I know plan on about 10 hours or so to get there. So what....700+ one way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BelaySlave
    So how many miles is it from Boise to Moab? I know plan on about 10 hours or so to get there. So what....700+ one way?
    I can't remember the mileage (haven't been there in 3 years), but I do remember it being about a 9 hour drive.

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    10 is a big number

    Quote Originally Posted by BelaySlave
    So how many miles is it from Boise to Moab? I know plan on about 10 hours or so to get there. So what....700+ one way?
    Did it in a little over 8 once - would'nt recommend it. 10 is no problem, folks that use I-15 from Tremonton (good gas station stop) on south seem to drive pretty fast. You can get traffic in SLC, adjust you schedule if it matters. I always like to stop at Spanish Fly (Fork) for a bite to eat, if you know what I mean.

    If you get into Moab a couple of hours before sunset I would highly recommend Amassa Back or Slick Dork (Rock) for catching the sunset. If you take bike lights Slick Rock at night is a blast - and by full moon light is even better. Since you like to hike be sure and visit the Fiery Furnace and Fisher Towers. I hear Moab calling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zebdi
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    That's too easy!!!!

    From the office to Moab it looks like 572 miles. So let's just round that up to 600. Now time to figure out gas costs. I just hope gas ain't surpassing the $2.50 mark anytime soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BelaySlave
    So how many miles is it from Boise to Moab? I know plan on about 10 hours or so to get there. So what....700+ one way?
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    Don't know the mileage, but it took us 9 hours when we went in November, and we even went through some fog and conditions that slowed us down a bit. I think we left at like 4 am on Friday, and we were on the Slickrock trail by 2.
    Whenever I haul a$$ I have to take two trips.

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    What ever happened to adventure? What ever happened to exploration? What ever happened to casting your fate into the winds of fortune?

    Throw the bikes in the back of the truck, grab the Rand McNally, toss in a couple cans of tuna, a water bottle and a wool blanket, stop at the Stinker on the way out of town and go go go.

    Half the fun of adventure is the possibility that you might get sh!t on and make it back in one piece with some new stories.

    They might as well pad the trails.
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    Since this thread has been hijacked anyway:



    What is the fascination with Slickrock trail? Sure, everyone should do it ONCE for the novelty of it but it isn't very exciting. You just follow little white squares around for a while while sucking fumes from the jeeps that are following little white jeep symbols around. The parking lot get extremely full and you have to wait for German tourists to take pictures of each other standing on the trail before you can finish the ride. If you really want to ride some slickrock, Bartlett Wash is pretty fun because you can go anywhere you want. There are bowls and ledges to play around on.

    But there are so many other trails around Moab with a variety of terrain. Variety is the spice of life, right? It sure makes riding a little more interesting.
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    Reasons for Riding Slickrock in Moab.

    1. Watching carnage unfold around you.
    2. Playing on sections away from the main trail.
    3. Watching German tourists on commuters pass "serious" mtn. bikers.
    4. Learning German.
    5. Counting the number of times Search and Rescue has to extricate bikers.
    6. Watching a skateboarder pass a mtn. bike.
    7. Reflecting on the good ole' days when you had to spackle outside and not a pit toilet.
    8. Watching the trails motocycles play off trail.
    9. Watching a $60k Jeep and its owner breakdown.
    10. Talking to someone dying on a climb, and wishing them a great ride.
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    I am reminded of something that happened in high school. Danny Lindheimer, the class stoner, came to Mr. Martin's English class after just coming back from a major bong sesh. In class Mr. Martin asked Danny what he thought of Thomas Hardy’s “Return of the Native” to which Danny replied "I’m bored man." Well, Mr. Martin, somehow sensing that all Danny really wanted was a Pepsi and bag of Pepperidge Farm cookies insightfully informed Danny that: "Maybe the reason that you are bored is because you are boring."

    I haven't ridden the Slickrock trail since 1985. When I was there there were a couple trophey wives tanning themselves topless on the hood of a jeep. We encountered the same folks doing the same thing in Lockhart Basin the next day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedCrank
    I haven't ridden the Slickrock trail since 1985. When I was there there were a couple trophey wives tanning themselves topless on the hood of a jeep. We encountered the same folks doing the same thing in Lockhart Basin the next day.
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    Damn

    So if I happen to ride Slickrock, with Chris Kings hubs on a XC FS bike, and I shave my legs - then I'm a Barney aren't I. If I buy a trials bike now, is there time to save my soul?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedCrank
    I haven't ridden the Slickrock trail since 1985. When I was there there were a couple trophey wives tanning themselves topless on the hood of a jeep. We encountered the same folks doing the same thing in Lockhart Basin the next day.
    So basically the same thing as what goes on at Lucky Peak during the summer?

    I'm so there!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visicypher
    9. Watching a $60k Jeep and its owner breakdown.
    Actually, I found that Poison Spider is a better place for that. Watching a jacked-up toyota pickup with 3 drunk guys in the back sitting on an inflatable couch while securing a large cooler of beer as the driver attempts to climb things he shoudn't is really fun. Especially when they all bail out and the truck slides back down the slope and sinks its bumper into the sand at the bottom. Ahh, Moab.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kuna
    So if I happen to ride Slickrock, with Chris Kings hubs on a XC FS bike, and I shave my legs - then I'm a Barney aren't I. If I buy a trials bike now, is there time to save my soul?
    That would be like putting an Earth First sticker on a Hummer...
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    Quote Originally Posted by zebdi
    That would be like putting an Earth First sticker on a Hummer...
    Not unless it read as follows:

    "Earth First! We'll log the other planets later..."

    My old neighbor on the Mesa had an H2 and his wife had the full size Suburban. He also had a modified, jacked up old Jeep in the garage, along with a 4 wheeler and a jet ski. No surprise, but he was a bit, fat, slovenly redneck loser with more money than taste.

    Here's my favorite H2 website: http://www.fuh2.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earthpig
    Here's my favorite H2 website: http://www.fuh2.com/
    Awesome! 298 pages of people flipping off H2s. Hummers are even worse but you don't see them as often. I laugh when I do see them, though. So American! So Bush!


    I think it's funny that H2s have only 2" more clearance than my Honda CRV and they use 2.5 times more gas... Buy a Jeep if you want something offroad worthy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Earthpig
    Here's my favorite H2 website: http://www.fuh2.com/
    The network Nazis won't let me visit the good sites.

    Access Denied (policy_denied)


    Your system policy has denied access to the requested URL.


    For assistance, contact your network support team.


    Brah. my network support team are a bunch of fakkin dorks.
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    Way OT....

    Any Clumsy Lovers fans out there? I sorta wrote them off without hearing their music cuz I thought they were like Phish. But apparently they ain't. I finally heard "Okay Lover" on XM just a couple of mins ago and I like them.

    Anyhoo...anyone have any of their CDs that I can download onto my MP3 player?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by BelaySlave
    Way OT....

    Any Clumsy Lovers fans out there? I sorta wrote them off without hearing their music cuz I thought they were like Phish. But apparently they ain't. I finally heard "Okay Lover" on XM just a couple of mins ago and I like them.

    Anyhoo...anyone have any of their CDs that I can download onto my MP3 player?

    Thanks
    I watched them a couple times and then they covered that super crappy song "Fly Away" or whatever by that super crappy band Sugar Ray and I haven't seen them since.

    Why doesn't mtbr have an emoticon for vomiting???
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    Quote Originally Posted by zebdi
    I watched them a couple times and then they covered that super crappy song "Fly Away" or whatever by that super crappy band Sugar Ray and I haven't seen them since.

    Why doesn't mtbr have an emoticon for vomiting???
    I hear ya. I got into the Lovers back in 1993 or 1994 in law school in Moscow. They used to come rock the shiznit out of John's Alley every few months and all 50 of us in the crowd would get all liquored up and sweaty jumping around to their tunes. They were known as the Six Million Dollar Band back then and they rawked. When they first started coming to Boise in around '98 or so (name was changed back to the Clumsy Lovers by then), their $5 shows at the Bouquet were fun - small and intimate. Then, however, the friggin lemming masses in this town, especially all the BSU frat boys and sorority girls, started coming to all the shows and the Lovers got a big-a$$ corporate head and started playing at the Big Sleazy for like $12 or $15 a pop. To hell with that. Then, the Lovers sold out and did an album of covers. Talk about insult to injury. They were here last weekend, back at the Bouquet, but I renounced my fanship years ago.
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