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    Winter 2006 Trail Report

    Looks like the weather is suppose to be somewhat decent today and tomorrow. Anything rideable tomorrow evening or do I stick with Rocky Canyon or the Greenbelt?

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    8th street is ok

    Once you get past the learning center. However, the 150 yards between the gate and the motorcycle parking lot maybe crappy...

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    Climb the front

    Quote Originally Posted by flipnidaho
    Once you get past the learning center. However, the 150 yards between the gate and the motorcycle parking lot maybe crappy...
    Thanks for the heads up - I've got my Big Single Slinger ready for some dirt. I need to see if I picked the right climbing combo, 34x22. No pics yet will post soon.

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    I ran up hulls this morning... mudfest. Sloppy and unridable. Lots of puddles and erosion. Its sunny outside, so if the nice weather holds up, maybe it will dry up a bit in the next couple of days.
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    Friday?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crash_Burn
    Thanks for the heads up - I've got my Big Single Slinger ready for some dirt. I need to see if I picked the right climbing combo, 34x22. No pics yet will post soon.
    Want to take it out for a spin Friday afternoon up Rocky Canyon? The cinnoman monkey and I were itchin' to do some riding then and I know your Friday schedule is usually like mine. He and I were talking about road riding, but since you were there for my first ride on the X-5, I want to be there for the maiden voyage of the slinger. I'm sure the monkey won't mind changing the plan.

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    My bike needs some miles!

    Quote Originally Posted by Earthpig
    Want to take it out for a spin Friday afternoon up Rocky Canyon? The cinnoman monkey and I were itchin' to do some riding then and I know your Friday schedule is usually like mine. He and I were talking about road riding, but since you were there for my first ride on the X-5, I want to be there for the maiden voyage of the slinger. I'm sure the monkey won't mind changing the plan.
    I need to get my snout dirty - I'am booked with party preparation this friday. I almost went last night, you riding nights?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash_Burn
    I need to get my snout dirty - I'am booked with party preparation this friday. I almost went last night, you riding nights?
    I rode up and down Hulls last night. It was mostly ridable with a couple of minor rutted and wet sections. No real mud to speak of. Riding the 1x1 after being on the CX for a couple weeks was like riding a really friendly tank. Tu's and W's work for me for the headlamp trips if'n yer interested.
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    are the visual handicapped welcome to this night riding thingy??? I promise 2 leave the poo at home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash_Burn
    I almost went last night, you riding nights?
    Not lately - obviously, way too much rain for foothills riding. (On that note, interesting difference between TC's and RRB's opinions about the condition of Hulls, given that they were on there probably less than 12 hours apart. I guess one man's mostly dry conditions is another woman's mucky slop.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earthpig
    (On that note, interesting difference between TC's and RRB's opinions about the condition of Hulls, given that they were on there probably less than 12 hours apart.)
    I was curious about that too. It was however raining very lightly (i.e., misting) in the gulch even though it was dry at home.

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    I guess one man's mostly dry conditions is another woman's mucky slop.)
    Would you care to elucidate?
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    Ding Ding Ding Ding

    Quote Originally Posted by Earthpig
    Not lately - obviously, way too much rain for foothills riding. (On that note, interesting difference between TC's and RRB's opinions about the condition of Hulls, given that they were on there probably less than 12 hours apart. I guess one man's mostly dry conditions is another woman's mucky slop.)
    We have a weener

    You managed to use "man's mostly dry and woman's mucky slop" in a sentence.

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    Hulls is dry - Does that make it a man?

    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedCrank
    Would you care to elucidate?
    It's funny how Hulls dry's out much faster than some of the other trails. Must be the sand and rock and trail users. It does get puddles though. Do Puddles have there own sexuality?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocknrollbarbie
    I ran up hulls this morning... mudfest. Sloppy and unridable. Lots of puddles and erosion. Its sunny outside, so if the nice weather holds up, maybe it will dry up a bit in the next couple of days.
    Anyone been on Bob's? I'm sure mudslide hill is slikery. Hope its ready for a Fri. 2pm ride.
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    Man mud-Woman wet

    (On that note, interesting difference between TC's and RRB's opinions about the condition of Hulls, given that they were on there probably less than 12 hours apart. I guess one man's mostly dry conditions is another woman's mucky slop.)
    I don't think it's about a man vs. a woman's opinion over trail conditions. I've always thought it's more of an Idaho native's definition of muddy versus someone that grew up East of the Mississippi. Otherwise, RRB and I just finished a quick climb up 8th. They were grading it as we were going up so the street is nice and relatively dry (Idaho standard dry that is).

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    Weener? or Weiner?

    It is funny either way. Now if we could someone to use butt monkey, or anti-butt monkey, in a post....hmmmm

    It is January. There are base miles to logged....and the Emmett/Horseshoe Bend loop to be ridden...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Visicypher
    Weener? or Weiner?
    Weener is an ethnic variant of wiener. I am assuming that weiner must be one too so dingdingding you both are corrent.
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    Hulls..speaking of maiden voyages

    CBro and I gave the homebrew light kits their maiden voyage tonight. All was well, it was beautiful out there. Hooked up with "Greg," a kayaker who rides once a month. "Onceamonther" had no problem climbing at my speed, which made me feel like a hundred bucks and almost convincing me to buy an XC bike.

    Naw!

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    Whaddya folks think the road going up behind the shooting range at Military Reserve will be like tomorrow evening?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedCrank
    Would you care to elucidate?
    Not at work. You know, you drop a hit of acid or eat some mushrooms at work and it can get kind of weird. The best place to elucidate is at a Dead show because, you know, everyone else is elucidating too.

    Back to the seriousness here - what's the bottom line on Hulls? Dry enough to ride or no? There doesn't seem to be a clear consensus. Bombin/CBro - where did you guys ride?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earthpig
    Not at work. You know, you drop a hit of acid or eat some mushrooms at work and it can get kind of weird. The best place to elucidate is at a Dead show because, you know, everyone else is elucidating too.

    Back to the seriousness here - what's the bottom line on Hulls? Dry enough to ride or no? There doesn't seem to be a clear consensus. Bombin/CBro - where did you guys ride?
    The Poindexter/Dork/mini-Barney loop = CB to kestrel to fwy down HG.

    The authorities did some trail maintenance and bandaided a lot of the erosion spots. It was in pretty good shape with the exception of a few watery and muddy spots. Bunny hop those and watch out for hikers with dogs and you'll be alright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bombin4X
    The Poindexter/Dork/mini-Barney loop = CB to kestrel to fwy down HG.

    The authorities did some trail maintenance and bandaided a lot of the erosion spots. It was in pretty good shape with the exception of a few watery and muddy spots. Bunny hop those and watch out for hikers with dogs and you'll be alright.
    Last night's ride had it all. Climbs, snow, darkness, views, lights,
    Godzilla, Jack Bauer, single malt scotch...

    Dingo or Bombin or Craig, and I arrive at the park around 430, I'm on the singlespeed, he on the King Kahona, and away we went. Kinda iffy as to whether we were dressed warm enough. (2 layers up top, one on bottom) It was about 40deg, but with the sun going down, it would drop another 20 in an hour. So at least we're out riding, (right??) find the trails very tacky, almost too wet to ride,but not quite, heheh.

    From the main trail, we see a dude far ahead climbing up Chickadee Ridge, we eventually catch the dude at the base of Kestrel, we visit, and find out he's a major kayaker. He's been all over the country and other parts of the world, and loves our whitewater the best.

    In any case, I have to stand the whole way of Kestrel, being back
    on the one-trick Gray Lady, and I LOVE IT. All that fancy technology is fun for the longer rides with rock gardens and stuff, but deep down, I'm just a simple guy. Give me one gear, a strong, light bike and I'm happy as a hog in Sh!t.

    We regroup on Crestline after the little steep pitch, , and the view down into the valley at sunset is awesome. Deep blues and dark oranges to take the breath away. Or maybe it was the riding.

    Getting colder, but we're moving fast enough not to feel it... yet.

    Get to the top of Hulls Gulch, BS some more, lower the seats, and I let the full boinger boys go ahead, as there are some tricky parts I don't take very fast on the rigid SS, especially at night. I'm borrowing one of Dingo's home made light sets, to help him demo them on their maiden voyage, and as dusk turns to dark, I hit the landing lights on the handelbar, and I'm freakin blown away! His homemade set up that cost him about $100 in parts is easily the equal to a $400+ niterider system. No problems rockin down this creekbed canyon, except for when the bars went one way, and trail another, and you can't see Jack. That's where prayer and luck pull you out.

    Finally get back to the Sports Utility Beater and its really black out.
    Overcast, cold, no longer feeling the toes, but Jimminy Cricket anyway, we had a great time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBro
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    Sounds like you were elucidating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedCrank
    Sounds like you were elucidating.
    Man, I live in a permanent state of elucidation... Reality is for people who can't handle elucidation, I always say.

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    Bah!!! Seeing is over-rated.
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    Rode up 8th Street

    and dropped into Hulls-Freeway-Owl's Roost. 8th is in awesome condition. The connector to Hulls has some ruts and running water but otherwise, it's OK if you pick a good line. The Freeway-Kestrel is pretty good also with the usual waterholes. What is typically the most muddy section of this whole ride (the first 100 yards of the motoX connector from the top) is in surprisingly great condition.
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    Rode up Mtn. Cove Road. Obviously that was in good shape. It appeared that Ridgecrest and the trail that parallels the road were moist so I didn't ride on those. Also tried to go on Toll Road, but that seemed pretty soft at the start so I turned around. Did see a number of runners/walkers out there though, but I wasn't gonna bother with riding through mud. Also rode around the dog **** pond and the trail around that was in good shape. Then rode up Eagle Ridge to the tower and then back down. The trails around there looked to be moist and soft too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flipnidaho
    and dropped into Hulls-Freeway-Owl's Roost. 8th is in awesome condition. The connector to Hulls has some ruts and running water but otherwise, it's OK if you pick a good line. The Freeway-Kestrel is pretty good also with the usual waterholes. What is typically the most muddy section of this whole ride (the first 100 yards of the motoX connector from the top) is in surprisingly great condition.
    Check it out...
    I did a similar ride last night around 9 PM - up 8th street, down Hulls Ridge to the Gulch and then down the Gulch. Modified barney loop with more elevation gain. My take was 90% tacky with puddles. (Also, the Lake boots seemed to work pretty well. I wish they came in 1/2 sizes though - the 44s were a smidge too small and the 45's are a smidge too big, but I kept the 45s since I can use thicker socks with them, or double-layer the socks.)

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    I don't suppose anyone around here rode Wilson Creek Road in the past day or so? If so...sloppy? OK? Not too keen on waking up at 6am to head up to a Park & Ski tomorrow morning to go snowshoeing. I'd like to sleep in if possible and then just ride up the road for my Sunday workout.

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    E'side? Connie?

    OK this may be a dumb question (but considering my limited winter experience here in Boise...)

    ...are these ride-able this time of year? Do the trails hold up up there and/or are they snow-laden?

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    Try...

    Riding up Sweet Connie to the snow line. Where the snow line is depends on what type of weather we've been getting but it should be a decent ride (well-except for the Bogus Basin traffic). You can also explore the cow trails on the south side of Connie...

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    Big rig riding

    Thanks Gary. I'm thinking about a shuttle run too...coming down from E'side or if there's another entry point. My dh bike just sits there, lonely and unused. It's a pity since she's stil so new...

    Shuttle anyone?

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    Southside

    of Connie looks like this. I need to explore there more... Unfortunately, there is no opportunity for a shuttle back there so you gotta pay for the downhill...
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    Hmm

    I could take the Coiler there, not the IH.

    IF you're interested in checking it out more of that, lemme know...I've got the riding bug big time.

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    FYI - the traverse across the field a 1/2 mile before you get to the rocks by BB Road is clay. That part could be a nasty mess....let us know how it turns out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Visicypher
    FYI - the traverse across the field a 1/2 mile before you get to the rocks by BB Road is clay. That part could be a nasty mess....let us know how it turns out.
    Yeah, the whole lower section of Connie, starting at the lava dome area and extending all the way to the canyon climb out, can be knee deep in muck with some moisture. We tried to ride it last May after a rainy week (for p-star's bachelor party ride) and we all had to stop multiple times to clear the gunk from our wheels and stays just to be able to get out. Bombin - you should ask Michael about our experience on Connie in the muck!

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    OK, will do.

    I saw the write up and the pics from that trip yo refer to. Will do!

    BTW - Michael and I are meeting at CB Parking lot 5:30 for a short spin if you're game.

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    Downhillers Rejoice!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bombin4X
    I saw the write up and the pics from that trip yo refer to. Will do!
    BTW - Michael and I are meeting at CB Parking lot 5:30 for a short spin if you're game.
    I should be out on the trails around 6-6:30, If I don't run into you guys say hi to the downhillin bro.

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    I got to take a small nibble of the green apple

    Quote Originally Posted by Crash_Burn
    I should be out on the trails around 6-6:30, If I don't run into you guys say hi to the downhillin bro.
    Was nice to meet you in the parking lot Bret, I really dig the bike. It pedals like a dream.

    Hope your night ride was fun and I'd be up for a spin in the near future (maybe by Friday the trails will be covered with snow again).

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    Are you calling me The Snake?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bombin4X
    Was nice to meet you in the parking lot Bret, I really dig the bike. It pedals like a dream.
    Hope your night ride was fun and I'd be up for a spin in the near future (maybe by Friday the trails will be covered with snow again).
    -craig
    All I did was offer - You took the bite.

    Hey good to meet you also - I got to thinking about the whole foothill specific bike thing. I still say it's more about the company you keep than the bike you ride, that said, I do have a Trek Fuel frame collecting dust in the basement. It's not worth spending a bunch of dough over but if you can put together a bike build on the cheap (beg, borrow, no steal of course) I could be persuaded to part with the frame for a couple of cool Benjamin's.

    If you think you might be interested I can show you the frame, let me know if your interested.

    The ride was good - still doing the shake down thing, my bars rolled down on me while going up Hulls, forgot to tighten the stem bolts nice and tight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash_Burn
    All I did was offer - You took the bite.

    Hey good to meet you also - I got to thinking about the whole foothill specific bike thing. I still say it's more about the company you keep than the bike you ride, that said, I do have a Trek Fuel frame collecting dust in the basement. It's not worth spending a bunch of dough over but if you can put together a bike build on the cheap (beg, borrow, no steal of course) I could be persuaded to part with the frame for a couple of cool Benjamin's.

    If you think you might be interested I can show you the frame, let me know if your interested.

    The ride was good - still doing the shake down thing, my bars rolled down on me while going up Hulls, forgot to tighten the stem bolts nice and tight.
    HA! I like your humor about the snake and apple bit, you've got a good sense of humor. Glad you didn't eat it due to the loose bars...

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    Anyone ride around Military Reserve today? If so how are the trails? I'm going there right after work for a quickie. If the trails ain't rideable I'll just stick to the road and Eagle Ridge up to the top.

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    Mil Reserve trails

    Like TableRock trails are always the last to dry out. Either stick to 8th or Rocky Canyon or climb up from the Shooting Range road in the Mil Reserve to the Freeway, down to Hulls up Kestrel and back down the Reserve. That can make a good, relatively dry, 1 hour to 1.5 hour ride on an SS. I'll be out there around 4ish so you may see me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by flipnidaho
    Like TableRock trails are always the last to dry out. Either stick to 8th or Rocky Canyon or climb up from the Shooting Range road in the Mil Reserve to the Freeway, down to Hulls up Kestrel and back down the Reserve. That can make a good, relatively dry, 1 hour to 1.5 hour ride on an SS. I'll be out there around 4ish so you may see me...
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    We saw you amigo! Did you remember going past 2 really goofy looking guys? I was wearing a loud Orange and blue roadie jacket, and Steve Parrish was in a goofy looking red stakeboarding helmet and orange/yellow windbreaker. Good to see another SS'er out hitting it. We had a blast. and good beer and eats to celebrate the night, too.

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    Y'all

    I thought y'all looked familiar. I should've stopped and said Hello but I was meeting someone at my house and, as usual, I was running late... hehe... The trails were in awesome condition last night eh?
    Man, after riding the Yeti almost exclusively for a couple of months, I've been really digging riding the SS again... Great way to put in a lot of effort in limited time...hehe
    Where did y'all ride?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flipnidaho
    I thought y'all looked familiar. I should've stopped and said Hello but I was meeting someone at my house and, as usual, I was running late... hehe... The trails were in awesome condition last night eh?
    Man, after riding the Yeti almost exclusively for a couple of months, I've been really digging riding the SS again... Great way to put in a lot of effort in limited time...hehe
    Where did y'all ride?
    so...where did y'all ride? military reserve - shanes - etc??

    i may bust out early from work for a ride IF the rain holds off today.

    thanks for the info in advance

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    Weather Permitting

    ...I'll be riding from CB Parking lot at 4:30ish today. I am toting the Coiler for a little Dork looping if anyone's up for it. Post or PM something, thanks.

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    SS Nite Ride

    Quote Originally Posted by garnetspur
    so...where did y'all ride? military reserve - shanes - etc??
    i may bust out early from work for a ride IF the rain holds off today.
    thanks for the info in advance
    Rode Cback park to 8th up the road to motto parking lot, then down to Top O Hulls. The connector from motto parking lot to Top O Hulls was a bit dodgy, ruts and mud. Hulls was in great shape, lots O fun. Trail 36A (Chickadee ridge?) needs some more time to dry, maybe better today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garnetspur
    i may bust out early from work for a ride IF the rain holds off today.
    Me too. If the rain holds off until 3:30, I'm going to ride the loop flip mentioned - Mountain Cove, connector, freeway, Hulls, Kestrel, connector, mountain cove. Short and simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earthpig
    Short and simple.
    You? Or the ride? Brah. It's pavement season.
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    cool.....that's the route i was thinking pig. depends on work/weather for today...

    if you see two vizslas...i'll be struggling somewhere behind them..

    been down with that nasty cold for over a week, and today's the first day i haven't had violent coughing attacks with tons of loogie action...

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