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    they should be, snowmobiles pay to use the groomed trails, fatbikes should also have to get a groomer sticker. they are pretty cheap. pay to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tim208 View Post
    they should be, snowmobiles pay to use the groomed trails, fatbikes should also have to get a groomer sticker. they are pretty cheap. pay to play.
    I have no dog in this fight. I don't have a fat bike, don't want a fat bike.

    My issue is that this seems like a back door first step to make all mountain bikers register their bikes to ride on a public trail during any season. The ATV and off road motorcyclists may see this and want to apply the same rules to mountain bikers. Pay to play? Here's my math:

    If you own 3 bikes, you pay $31 each to ride on state land. That's almost $100. If you live in Boise, add perhaps a R2R fee for each bike, since it's a smattering of all sorts of land. Add a federal fee to ride on any federal land. If you're in Pocatello, add a City fee if you want to ride City Creek. Add on the membership costs for SWIMBA, IMBA, BAMBA, CIMBA or any other group you support that does maintenance on public and/or private land.

    And what about road bikes? They use the roads. Fee or no fee? Pay each county?

    What about hikers? They use the trails too. Do they escape fees? Do they register each shoe separately? Register each pair of shoes? Wear the stickers on their feet?

    What about dogs? Do you have to register your dog separately as a trail user?

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    I own both a fat bike and a snowmobile. For snowmobiles to use the trails, they have to have a state registration and a groomer sticker. I don't see why fat bikes shouldn't have to have a groomer sticker to ride on groomed trails. Why should the fat bikes not pay for the trails that are groomed and maintained by another user group, that pays. We are talking about $15. If you don't want to pay for the groomed snowmobile trails, go ride somewhere else. pretty simple and easy.

    Or the fat bikes can go and buy there own groomer equipment and maintain it, and pay for someone to operate it. $15 is pretty cheap to not incur that expense, but if you want fat bike singetrack, that is what will probably need to happen.

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    Well, good thing I don't have a fat bike then!

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    one of the major things that people forget about is, Wheeled vehichles are illegal on groomed snowmobile trails. So depending on the mood of the forest service cop, fatbikes can be ticketed and have been. This would be a way to make fat bikes legal and show bikers want to work with the original trail users, that make the trails.

    I have actually been talking to the local head of the country grooming program about getting fatbikes made legal on trails, but that will take a forest service change in there winter plans. some forest have already gone thru there winter travel planning process and won't be looking at there travel plans for another decade. This is actually a very pertinent issue in the winter biking crowd.

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    Well, then it sounds like a positive development. May want to chime in with Valley County in support of the ordinance if it opens up the snowmachine groomers to riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Earthpig View Post
    Thought the fat bike crowd would be interested in this proposed ordinance out of Valley County that would require fat bikes to be registered like snowmobiles to use the groomed snowmobile trails up there.
    Wow!!! What a crock that proposal is...hahahahahahaha. Dog sleds are even included in this proposal. What a bunch of greedy cheapskates...
    Once again, bicycles get lumped in with off-road motorized vehicles, as if their numbers are competeing with motorized users and causing dismay and consternation in the ranks of the latter.
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    I have heard more than one moto rider complain that they have to register they bikes while mountain bikers don't, even though we use them on the same trails.

    But, that doesn't have anything to do with fat biking or fat bikes in Boise. Sorry to hijack the thread.

    Back to your regular fat programming.

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    Where are the fat bikes in Boise

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    Chiming in here. Just built up a pugsley and have been out on the trails a few times. Anyone know of any sandy trails, like along the river or anything like that?
    I am just amazed at how it floats over sand and loose gravel.

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    the section of Polecat that faces Cartwright road is very sandy but nothing like down by the river.

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    Where are the fat bikes in Boise

    Small sections of sand all over but no really super sandy trails per say. Heck right out of camels back is a sandy section... Portions of crestline are sandy... I always get razzed for riding the sand instead of the hatdpack.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotrozz View Post
    Anyone know of any sandy trails, like along the river or anything like that?
    I am just amazed at how it floats over sand and loose gravel.
    Sandy trails can be found any place the cows have been herding or the sheep have been swarming. Most of these trails don't have names or numbers. Adventure by bike, and all that.

    Dry Creek could be fun on a fatso right now, given how hateful the sheep have been on it this year. If you can stand the smell of their sh1t that is.
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    Where are the fat bikes in Boise

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    Hiding in the back at the top of corrals....


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    Ran into the guy that built this sweet ride up on Watchman today. Vibe cycles of Boise. He was the first fat rider I've seen on the trails all summer. The painted Ti looks trick.
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    I plan to bring my fatty when I'm down there for work in a few weeks....probably hit up bogus basin trails & that general area.....
    If anyone wants to join in the fat tire fun, send me a PM. Probably be late afternoon rides, I'm up for anything.

    Isn't everything sandy down there??....lol

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    Where are the fat bikes in Boise

    Pretty dry and sandy spots for sure. Up bogus way less so I'm told!


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    I am in town and brought the fatty! Probably ride in the afternoon Tuesday and Wednesday (working nights).

    Hope to get out to bogus at least one day. If anyone wants to join the fat tire fun, send me a PM....

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    Where are the fat bikes in Boise

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rcksqrl View Post
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    Was a fun ride today! Thanks for riding, good times. 100% convinced the fat tires are ideal for Boise trails

    I plan to do some Bogus tomorrow if anyone wants to join.

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    Where are the fat bikes in Boise

    Sorry for making you wait with me so often. Lots of fun as always


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    Where are the fat bikes in Boise

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    Where are the fat bikes in Boise

    Did see a fat biker leaving the cul d sac at the bottom of bobs/highlands..... Believe it was a Boris e was riding...


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    Where are the fatties in Boise?

    Well, there were a bunch of them at they Salsa demo at the Eagle velodrome last night.

    I'm just sayin, the carbon Beargrease has got the goods. Anyone got 4000 bones I can borrow?
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    Where are the fat bikes in Boise

    Rode sidewinder Friday and met a fat biker, today on around the mountain saw one fat bike take off and encounter another fat biker at the end of the trail. Fair number coming out!



    I'm stuffed there in the back..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rcksqrl View Post
    Rode sidewinder Friday and met a fat biker, today on around the mountain saw one fat bike take off and encounter another fat biker at the end of the trail. Fair number coming out!



    I'm stuffed there in the back..
    Could of been me you saw at bogus on Sunday, grey pugsley with orange marge lites and a lefty?

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    Where are the fat bikes in Boise

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    Up bogus basin on the ATM


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    My, my, cool looking rides, but a little heavy for the backcountry, eh?
    Or am I wrong about that?
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    Where are the fat bikes in Boise

    I personally feel like the increases rolling resistance is more than made up for by the ease of riding over obstacles and ability to carry. Still haven't gotten it out in snow but lookin forward to it!

    Let my roadie/cyclocross brother ride my bike this last weekend.... He had to agree, more smiles per mile.

    A friend said it best.... I may be slower than you but I'm having more fun!

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    I've got over 230000 vertical feet of climbing on my fatty this year and another 75000 on my other 2 rides. I just can't get off my fatty, it's too much fun and at 28 lbs it most definatly doesn't hold me back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idshooter View Post
    I've got over 230000 vertical feet of climbing on my fatty this year and another 75000 on my other 2 rides. I just can't get off my fatty, it's too much fun and at 28 lbs it most definatly doesn't hold me back.
    Nice!
    I'm up to 213,000 this year, all fat, all the time

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    Where are the fat bikes in Boise

    And I thought I was doing well... Poop...

    Hit highlands/corrals/bobs last night, pretty sunset!

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    Been out on my lefty outfitted 9zero7 every weekend and never see any other fatties. Whats up?

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    There was one 20 min ahead of you on ATM trail today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hotrozz View Post
    Been out on my lefty outfitted 9zero7 every weekend and never see any other fatties. Whats up?
    It's all I ride anymore. I don't see any myself plus other riders look at me like I'm some kind of freek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nels View Post
    There was one 20 min ahead of you on ATM trail today.
    Hey Steve were you riding up at 5 mile gulch today?

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    Where are the fat bikes in Boise

    I know a few of y'all were up bogus basin today, I stayed down in the valley. Where are the fat bikes in Boise-imageuploadedbytapatalk1414974411.490635.jpgWhere are the fat bikes in Boise-imageuploadedbytapatalk1414974426.896960.jpg


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    Quote Originally Posted by hotrozz View Post
    Hey Steve were you riding up at 5 mile gulch today?
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    Where are the fat bikes in Boise

    Counted 5 separate riders out of camels back when I was out. (Animals! But humbling to be passed twice on the same hill... By the same rider because they are in training mode!) I underestimated the extra amount of energy needed to push through the snow... Got my a** handed to me... Repeatedly.... But can't wait to go back out!


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