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    Trails are dry??

    Friend who lives on 9th near the trails says everything down low is dry. How can that be? It rained a foot yesterday. I'm thinking of skipping out on work, but don't want to waste a good excuse ("Uh, yeah, big meeting just came up no one knows about but me. Phone reception will be bad so don't try calling.") if everything is slicker than greased own shiyat even down by Military or Freeway.

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    Looked muddy to me this morning.
    Whenever I haul a$$ I have to take two trips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westin
    Friend who lives on 9th near the trails says everything down low is dry. How can that be? It rained a foot yesterday. I'm thinking of skipping out on work, but don't want to waste a good excuse ("Uh, yeah, big meeting just came up no one knows about but me. Phone reception will be bad so don't try calling.") if everything is slicker than greased own shiyat even down by Military or Freeway.
    Depends on your friend's definition of "dry." If he/she defines "dry" as not being underwater, he/she could be correct. We officially received .67" of rain yesterday at the airport, so that means probably closer to a solid inch in the foothills. It never cleared off or cleared up overnight, even though it stopped raining late evening. I find it EXTREMELY hard to believe that "everything" down low was "dry" as of this morning, unless of course "dry" means "not underwater." I think the responsible thing to do would be to wait at least 18 - 24 hours before hitting the foothills. In fact, I altered my planned ride today from mountain to road for that very reason. However, as the tire ruts on the foothills trails prove, there are many, many irresponsible cyclists in the valley who don't give a sh!t whether the trails are "dry" or not.

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    Here is Boise's forecast:
    http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/total_foreca...&county=idc001

    Let's say it stops showering mid-afternoon tomorrow....whaddya think Rocky Canyon or 8th St. will be like around 5:30pm?

    Or am I on the Greenbelt again or heaven forbid inside the gym tomorrow evening?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BelaySlave
    Here is Boise's forecast:
    http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/total_foreca...&county=idc001

    Let's say it stops showering mid-afternoon tomorrow....whaddya think Rocky Canyon or 8th St. will be like around 5:30pm?

    Or am I on the Greenbelt again or heaven forbid inside the gym tomorrow evening?
    Rocky Canyon and 8th are always good... At least, it's much more fun than the Greenbelt and a better workout... 8th Street is also good on a SS when wet...

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    I just got back from a Dork loop

    and it pretty much was like this the whole time
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    do faceplants cause erosion?

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    yeah. dingle..killer ride today brah! good ridin' with ya.

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    I went to the small network of trails near old Hwy 55/Veteran's Cemetary. It was a bit muddy in about 5% of the trails but nothing major. Overall it was ego dirt (can't do no wrong).

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    I rode 8th last night to the snow line and although soft, it was rideable. Probably somewhat softer today though

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    If it's not raining tomorrow I'll ride either 8th or take the road to Rocky Canyon and see how far up it is rideable. this weather will be over soon, shed it's dark skin to reveal the light!!!

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    Rocky Canyon Rd

    Rode RCR to just below the summit yesterday A.M. Firm all the way, tail wind going up -hit a ragged snow floor near the top that was beyond my limited comfort zone. Look out for all the Robie runners on your way down. All the water rushing by makes for a beautiful white noise.
    I feel a little Bucky comin' on!

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    Prolly no good today, but yesterday (Thur) Rocky Canyon, Orchard Gulch (#7), the drop in to 5 Mile Gulch, and lower 5 Mile Creek were all very good,except the creek crossings
    and a few little run-off streams here and there.
    I was surprised at how firm trail 7 was, the moist sand was hard packed and offered
    excellent traction on the climb up with a couple of small snow patches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nels
    Prolly no good today, but yesterday (Thur) Rocky Canyon, Orchard Gulch (#7), the drop in to 5 Mile Gulch, and lower 5 Mile Creek were all very good,except the creek crossings
    and a few little run-off streams here and there.
    I was surprised at how firm trail 7 was, the moist sand was hard packed and offered
    excellent traction on the climb up with a couple of small snow patches.
    Yeah, as cinnoman monkey and I were starting our road ride yesterday from Camelsback, a couple of guys ending their mountain ride reported "soft but rideable" foothills conditions. This time of year, the trails really need only about 6 - 8 hours to become rideable and 12 - 24 to be dry with puddles.

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    OK...so let's just say the weather is like this for the next couple of days...off and on light showers....here in downtown at lunch we had a small sprinkle. As of a couple of hours ago, Weather.com had Thursday as being the only decent day for the next 10 days. Am I good to go that evening on the Dork Loop or should I sit it out and stick to Rocky Canyon or the Greenbelt?

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    Don't know about RC specifically but......

    looked at the Nat'l weather service link Geoff sent me and it looks wet up until about Wed evening, then a much smaller % of precipitation or rain. So I think we might be good to ride in the front and the Owhyees by friday or sat, sun.

    The forecast for a few miles SE of Melba (Owhyess I think) was similar

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    Anyone Dork Looping later today? I'm Greenbelting. Woohoo!!! HEADWINDS!!!

    It doesn't look like there is gonna be any more substantial precip for the rest of the day and tomorrow it's looking pretty decent with no rain *knocks on wood* and sun. With all this damn wind, just wondering if the Dork Loop will be OK tomorrow betwixt 5:30-7pm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BelaySlave
    Anyone Dork Looping later today? I'm Greenbelting. Woohoo!!! HEADWINDS!!!

    It doesn't look like there is gonna be any more substantial precip for the rest of the day and tomorrow it's looking pretty decent with no rain *knocks on wood* and sun. With all this damn wind, just wondering if the Dork Loop will be OK tomorrow betwixt 5:30-7pm?
    Heck, Dork Loop is probably in that "dry with puddles" stage this afternoon. This time of year that top layer of dirt dries pretty quick. You should easily be good to go by tomorrow.

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    Did a short dork loop this afternoon

    Quote Originally Posted by BelaySlave
    Anyone Dork Looping later today? I'm Greenbelting. Woohoo!!! HEADWINDS!!!

    It doesn't look like there is gonna be any more substantial precip for the rest of the day and tomorrow it's looking pretty decent with no rain *knocks on wood* and sun. With all this damn wind, just wondering if the Dork Loop will be OK tomorrow betwixt 5:30-7pm?
    15th St connector trail-Chickadee-Hulls-Kestrel-Fwy.

    Hulls is okay, a lot of Kestrel is still pretty mucky, the fwy isn't too bad.
    I'd say it needs one or two more days of sunshine and then maybe the connector and military reserve/shanes, 3 bears etc will be good too.

    DAng lot of hikers and dogs out there tonight!

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    Thanks for the report Daryl.

    So what would be my best option for tomorrow evening?

    I FINALLY put on the Kenda Cortez (or is it Corti)?

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    I parked at Camels Back at about 5 yesterday to go road riding and during the time I was there getting ready to ride and then when I finished up at 6:45 I must have seen at least 25or more riders heading out to or coming back from the trails. Given the 48+ hours of hard rain from Tuesday through Wednesday night, I personally would have given it until today to dry out, but clearly these 25 - 50 other riders saw it differently.

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    Will Corrals be doable later today?

    Where are those Rangers so that they can update us on trail conditions!?!?!? Or is flip back in Moab again????

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    I dunno yet

    Quote Originally Posted by BelaySlave
    Thanks for the report Daryl.

    So what would be my best option for tomorrow evening?

    I FINALLY put on the Kenda Cortez (or is it Corti)?
    I took a PTO day today, so Nels and I are going riding. I'll post a report later, before I start my azz studying again!

    But for now, you know Hulls is good, little Chickadee connector is fine with some puddles and small mud section to go around (or manual over), freeway was actually okay.
    Again, yesterday, top part of Kestrel was bad from the bridge to Hulls to a ways after it goes past Sidewinder, mucky yucky spucky shcumyky splucky crucky stucky spooky cooky dooky mooky

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    Quote Originally Posted by BelaySlave
    Will Corrals be doable later today?

    Where are those Rangers so that they can update us on trail conditions!?!?!? Or is flip back in Moab again????
    Mostly puddles out there and some run-off. There is always a dry line on the sandy-rocky trails (like Hulls). Avoid lower Bucks, the bottom of Scott's, the switchback from the Corrals parking lot, the shady part of Red Cliffs and maybe, the lower part of Sidewinder (although this should be ok by this afternoon). Some of the stream crossings in the Mil Reserve were raging this morning-be careful crossing.... Have fun!

    Nick, if you do Corrals, try to start from 8th Street. That way if you hit a good patch of mud, you can turn around and do some alternative trails instead of heading back to the car/pavement if you started off of Bogus....

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    Well said

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    Here's the Dork Loop trail report from one of the 25+ riders from last night:

    Kestrel to Sidewinder was fine. The first 10 feet of SW was slop, after that fine. Around the corner past SW on Crestline was bad, and Hull's was great. The creek was raging, I thought about grabbing my kayak...

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    Yeah. The water is huge. I heard on the news today that the runoff in the hills is bigger than it has been in over 10 years. The creek really was cool looking... I got a close look when I attempted the rock... Anyways, The news guy said that some homes could be at risk for flooding if the local ponds cant take it all, so they are channelling it as fast as they can to the local ponds and then to the river.
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    Were you riding up the rock or down the rock (I'm assuming you mean the one on Hulls)? Did you make it?

    Anyone remember a long time ago when there was "the whole Northend is gonna get flooded under" fiasco. Heck...didn't flood alarms go off? I remember a crew from Ch. 7 was on some street reporting live and I was expecting a big ass flood but it was only a trickle.

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    Down the rock. And I didn't make it... I will though. I am determined to get it very soon. The line really is very simple, its just the coming around the corner from the top blind thing that kinda freaks me out a lil.
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    It freaks YOU out!!!! Aye caramba!!! It is cool that you are going for it!!!

    Ya know the odd part...every so often I get a wild hare, shove it down the lederhosen, and ride that thing.
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    Friday 4/7 trail report

    Here's what I rode from 2:45 to 5:15 and here's the skinny:

    Chickadee: dry and rideable
    Hulls: mostly dry and rideable
    Freeway (from Hulls to Sidewinder): mostly dry (some wet spots and mud) but rideable
    Sidewinder: mostly dry but rideable
    Freeway (Sidewinder to Red Sands): mostly dry but rideable
    Redsands (to the cut off trail down to Kestrel): dry and rideable (but very rutted)
    Kestrel (from Redsands cutoff to Owls Roost): dry and rideable
    Owls Roost: dry and rideable
    Corrals: lots of wet and muddy spots, and the creek crossing is deep, fast, and cold - not rideable
    Bobs: DEFINITELY NOT RIDEABLE - mostly mud, loooooong wet spots, deep and fast creek crossings and Crane Creek has washed away big portions of the trail (Hey Dirt Dart, you've got a LOT of work to do this spring!)
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    As for MR the lower trail from Ridgecrest to Mountain Cove is wet and sloppy (shame on me and shame on Belay Slave). The lower trail on the Mountain Cove side of the Black Forest is a flowing stream. The bridge across Cottonwood Creek in the Black Forest has washed away - it's simply not there anymore. At least I think it's not there. I should go back to make sure I wasn't hallucinating.
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    Saw a number of people I recognized or knew....

    First saw SpudHuckster Brad and his girl behind him coming down Military Reserve Connector. We've never met before, but I recognize 'em from their site. Also saw them last night on the Greenbelt on ROAD BIKES!!!!!!!!!!!

    Started off by going around the Dog Crap Ponds and then up Eagle Ridge...pretty much dry save for some really small sections and then dropped down and swam across Cottonwood Creek. Wow was that flowing. Then began the climb up Ridge Crest and that was pretty good. Then I dropped down the other side of Ridge Crest and that was fine until I got to the bottom where it was just muddy. The kind of muddy that us 2C'ers in jacked up Fords would love to drive through. The Yeti got a good coating of mud.

    After mudbogging through that, that is where I ran into Twisted muscling the Surly. That other creek that runs along Mtn. Cove Road was pretty swollen too.

    I took that trail and then cut across the road and headed up the Connector. Man I'm outta shape . Near the top is when I saw Brad and his lady. The Connector was in pretty good shape.

    After taking a break up top, I began the cruise on the Freeway. Some cuties with very nice toned legs passed me...yes I'm that slow. Part of the Connector after you pass the start of Sidewinder had some nice muddy puddle spots. The creek along Hulls was going pretty good. That first half of Hulls had some puddles and those are gonna be a joy when they finally dry out. While going down Hulls I saw one of my buds from the BSU climbing gym and I also saw that one guy (MarkV or Crash_Burn) with the green Slingshot SS. Being the courteous rider, I pulled off to the side as people were coming up. Trail etiquette rules!!!

    I think I had too much air in the RP3 today. I'm gonna knock it down to like 210 or 215 before my next ride. It was just too firm.

    After ripping down Hulls I hopped onto Chickadee. Oh....if that brunette chick on the C-Dale is reading this, believe me...I was not stalking or following you. We just happened to be doing the same trails. Halfway through that initial climb onto Chickadee my left thigh cramped up. OWWW!!!! Damn did that hurt. Screw it though, I hopped back on the bike and pedaled off. It wasn't until I got onto Red Fox or Red Tail or whatevver it's called that the cramp finally went away.

    Cruised into Camel's Butt and rode around the parking lot to see if I saw anyone else and sadly no. Nice to see alot of kids and families out though.

    I hate to admit this, but tonight was my longest ride (aside from the road bike) of the year. Yeah I'm that far behind everyone else.


    Hope everyone here got to have some trail fun today!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BelaySlave
    Were you riding up the rock or down the rock (I'm assuming you mean the one on Hulls)? Did you make it?

    Anyone remember a long time ago when there was "the whole Northend is gonna get flooded under" fiasco. Heck...didn't flood alarms go off? I remember a crew from Ch. 7 was on some street reporting live and I was expecting a big ass flood but it was only a trickle.
    I remember that. A Ch7 reporter who lives in the north end did some emotional recount of how his world changed. I couldn't help but feel sorry for him as if he was one of those Christian Children Fund retards walking barefoot in the streets of wherever the hell that gaywad bearded preacher begs from.

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    Despite this morning's rain, I'm assuming everything is in pretty good shape right now? I'd like to get out for a short ride before "24".

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocknrollbarbie
    Down the rock. And I didn't make it... I will though. I am determined to get it very soon. The line really is very simple, its just the coming around the corner from the top blind thing that kinda freaks me out a lil.
    I used to have a hard time with the corner, but one time, I came into it a bit fast, and wasn't able to make the corner at all, and ended up going straight down it. That is now my usual line, and it's not nearly as tough as you might think. Then when I'm feeling pretty good, I take the tough line illustrated in the photo I stole from Bombin4X.
    I just like to add a little difficulty, and it's not nearly as bad as you'd think either.

    But seriously, if the corner gives you a hard time, consider just going straight down it. It isn't too bad at all...



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    Quote Originally Posted by DelTaco
    Then when I'm feeling pretty good, I take the tough line illustrated in the photo I stole from Bombin4X.
    I just like to add a little difficulty, and it's not nearly as bad as you'd think either.

    But seriously, if the corner gives you a hard time, consider just going straight down it. It isn't too bad at all...
    Hmmm...I never really thought of taking that tough line - that would put a whole new level of Fear Factor into this section...thanks for sharing that!

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    Yeah, prolly won't be doing the nutsy line anytime soon. Now that I have a little more travel under me however, I might be more confident coming down the other line. Maybe. I know people do it on their hardtails all the time. It really is the corner. Not being able to see whats coming until Im right on top of it. Next time though...
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    Odd...that is the line I take when I ride that thing when I get a wild hare in the pants.

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    Was there anyone out tonight? I did a Military Reserve Dork Loop ride tonight and only saw a couple of runners and a couple of riders. I thought for sure the place would be more busy. Ehhh maybe everyone was over at Camel's Butt instead. Both Freestone and Cottonwood Creeks have subsided a bit since last Friday night. The bottom portion of the cemetary side of Ridge Crest was a firm muddy instead of a boggy muddy. Some decent ruts are forming on Buck's.

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    I saw you Nick climbing up to Bucks and coming down past the parking lot by the cemetary. I was on the ridge riding a black Bullit with my two Vizslas.
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    How is Rock Islands? I heard that the sections between features are really muddy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bombin4X
    Hmmm...I never really thought of taking that tough line - that would put a whole new level of Fear Factor into this section...thanks for sharing that!
    Really? I remember the first time I ever rode a mountain bike, I saw that line. I almost convinced Phil Vega to do it on his NRS too . (Yep, Sprockids got me hooked)

    I have probably at least 6-7 lines down the rock, but I think that's the most absurd yet workable line there. I've made sure the rocks were still there and gravity still applies experimenting with lines there moe than once.
    Watch out once the foilage grows though, as there can be poison ivy at the bottom, and head over heels into poison ivy can be less than pleasant.
    I'm hoping to ride Hulls and Rock Islands on Easter, so I'll see about a picture or ten of myself in action.

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