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    Paging EP- Whacha think about the Cortezs?

    Hey EP,
    Have you set up the X5 with the Cortez-s yet? I replaced the Weirwolf 2.3 on the rear with another Cortez 2.4 to match the front and the difference was noticable- faster rolling and therefore easier climbing. There seems to be a slight loss in traction on the rear, but instead the squirminess is gone. Curious to hear your honest feedback

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    Funny...I was gonna post a very similar thread not too long ago about this.

    I read in a thread Earthpig was gonna try these out. I had the opportunity to score a pair of the Cortez and I got 'em. However I tried to install one of the front tire over the weekend and was having a heck of a time seating the bead on one side . My Mavic 317's say that the max tire size it can accept are 2.3 while the Cortez is a 2.4. Was that my problem? I also hypothesized that I didn't have enough air in the tube so it didn't give the tire any shape.

    Anyhoo if these tires won't work on my rim, I'm putting them up for sale if anyone is interested.

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    I noticed that the tire kept flopping out of the bead-lock on the rim, but with some air in the tube it went on fine and has stayed on there. I'm running them on Bontrager Mustangs which are a basic XC oriented rim that's pretty similar to the 317s if I remember right.

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    Muaahhahahaha....that tire is too big for that rim. You must sell them to me.....muahahaha.

    If you don't wanna sell, air up the tire slightly, ensure the tire is at least close to be on rim, seat the bead by rolling the tire laterally on the rim, air it up a bit more, check the seating again by the lateral roll (make sure your didn't self spackle your bottom trying to get the bead onto the rim), wipe with moist toilette, let the dog sniff your bottom, and then pump up (your tire...not yer...errr...nevermind) to the desired pressure. Finally, ride your bike, and huck your meat past the granola aisle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayndar
    Hey EP,
    Have you set up the X5 with the Cortez-s yet? I replaced the Weirwolf 2.3 on the rear with another Cortez 2.4 to match the front and the difference was noticable- faster rolling and therefore easier climbing. There seems to be a slight loss in traction on the rear, but instead the squirminess is gone. Curious to hear your honest feedback
    Nope, not yet. I have seen neither hide nor hair of the wheels or tires, which I ordered a month ago. I did move my 2.3 Weirwolf off the rear of my SS to the front, but have not had a chance to ride it as a front tire yet. I hear slightly better reviews for the Weirwolf as a front tire than as a rear tire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visicypher
    Remember. If the monkey doesn't come to you, you should come to the monkey. And never eat in the monkey house.
    Another sage piece of advice is not to drink with the (cinnoman) monkey either, because he often will lose the ability to speak english and will begin speaking monkey and throwing his spackle at unsuspecting other patrons of the Neurolux.

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    Monkeys have great aim when projectile spackling.....hmmmm...spackle gun???

    And watch out if your monkey says this:

    http://sounds.wavcentral.com/televis/snl/snl002.mp3
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    Between watching porn and watching Food Network, I finally got these mofos put on last night. Can't wait to try them out later today.

    Is it me, or does it seem that the sidewalls on the Cortez seem a bit thin?

    Gonna have to look back at some other tire threads in here to see what the consesus is on the Nevegals.

    And my Minions seem to be more worn down than I originally thought.

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    o happy day

    Wheels, skewers and tires all showed up today. The Hope Pro II hubs are more of a brushed silver than a polished silver, but they look really nice. I can't believe how light the wheels are for as big as the rims are. Throwing everything together tonight and hoping to ride the set up tomorrow.
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    and, we're done

    All put back together....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayndar
    Hey EP,
    Have you set up the X5 with the Cortez-s yet? .... Curious to hear your honest feedback
    I've got two rides on the Cortezes now and I think the jury is still out. I noticed the bike has a tad more tendency to drift in corners than it did with the Trailbears or MutanoRaptors, but if I focused on weighting the front wheel in turns more than usual, they hooked up pretty well yesterday in the sandy/dry Owyhees conditions. They do roll quite well, and thus tend to "ride smaller" than the stated 2.4 size. They also seem to be a good match for the new wider rims I have. I'm still toying with the air pressure, trying to find that magic pressure range. Any recommendations on that?

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    Coming down Buck's, I noticed that when I would really lean into corners, I could feel the back slip a lil'. Never noticed that with my Minions. Ehhh could be operator error as well . Definately do like them alot better on climbs though.
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    Its interesting that both of you noticed slipping in the corners and I did too when I rode in Boise. I figured it was becauseI hadn't ridden in a while and was slipping mentally! That's a different story though- Probably involving spackle, monkeys, tire levers, Slick Honey and chardonnay in a random order.
    I guess the fast rolling rubber is a trade off for the real grippy rubber. I liked the tires in St. George- bigger size to float through sand, fast rolling on the hardpack/sandstone, and plenty of traction on the slickrock. I've also never notice it slipping in the loam and rocks of McCall, but the trail speeds probably aren't consistently as fast as Boise. It sure rolls a lot faster than the Weirwolfs and feels more like a Panaracer 2.1.
    Oh, yeah, here's a picture of both, but the Fires are mounted on wider rims so it isn't totally fair.
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    ummm....trim up that avid mech brake cable. if it gets caught up in your rotor, bad things can happen. I know it is a big if...but it is an "if" you want to avoid.
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    Good point, I hadn't thought about that- thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayndar
    Its interesting that both of you noticed slipping in the corners and I did too when I rode in Boise. I figured it was becauseI hadn't ridden in a while and was slipping mentally! That's a different story though- Probably involving spackle, monkeys, tire levers, Slick Honey and chardonnay in a random order.
    I guess the fast rolling rubber is a trade off for the real grippy rubber. I liked the tires in St. George- bigger size to float through sand, fast rolling on the hardpack/sandstone, and plenty of traction on the slickrock. I've also never notice it slipping in the loam and rocks of McCall, but the trail speeds probably aren't consistently as fast as Boise. It sure rolls a lot faster than the Weirwolfs and feels more like a Panaracer 2.1.
    Oh, yeah, here's a picture of both, but the Fires are mounted on wider rims so it isn't totally fair.
    It does handle very similarly to the 2.1 Fire, which I'm running F and R on my Jamis. I'm pretty sold on the Cortez as a rear tire, but not yet as a front. However, as I said, if I focused on putting some weight on the front tire around corners, it did seem to track well. Isn't the Cortez one of Kenda's dual tread combos, with the L3R in the middle and the Stick E on the sides? That said, I'm wondering of the wide open channel between the center knobs and the side knobs is the cause of that "loose" feeling.

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    Man....once again coming down Buck's tonight, the rear tire slid a couple of times in the corners. I realize part of the reason is probably lack of skills, but jeez...I feel more confident with the Minions. But I'll take the fact that the Cortez does make it easier when gravity is your foe.

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    Yeah, I'm definitely switching out the front Cortez for something more aggressive and stickier.

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    Sorry the tires aren't working out for you guys in Boise. I'm hoping to go ride in the Foothills tomorrow evening and I'll try them again myself. I still think they roll amazingly fast for the size- hmm, my singlespeed could use a pair! Let me know you want to get rid of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayndar
    Sorry the tires aren't working out for you guys in Boise. I'm hoping to go ride in the Foothills tomorrow evening and I'll try them again myself. I still think they roll amazingly fast for the size- hmm, my singlespeed could use a pair! Let me know you want to get rid of them.
    I do like it as a rear tire, but I'm definitely more accustomed to a front tire with a squarer profile and directional tread pattern. Funny that it's pitched as a hardpack tire, but it seems to get better reviews when used on loamier/forest type soil - Shiggy gave it a thumbs up over on the "Wheels and Tires" board for the loamy western Oregon conditions. I'll probably keep my front Cortez as a back-up/spare for my rear tire. Here's what I'm going to try as a front: http://schwalbetires.com/node/71/ok

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