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    Moving to Boise -- Should I Consider Avimor?

    After years of trying, we're finally moving to Boise. I'm stoked about the riding, coming from Houston where the riding sucks.

    My initial mindset with regard to housing was "North End or bust," especially since I thought I'd be working downtown. Now it looks like I may be able to telecommute, so I'm thinking about Avimor. I haven't ridden those trails yet. How do they compare to the trails leaving from Camelsback and the Military Reserve? Any other thoughts on living in Avimor?

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    The trails are less crowded, somewhat more technical. Right now, singletrack is singletrack rather than widened out, double and triple-wide singletrack like most of the stuff in Boise foothills proper. Avimor seems really cool now, LOTS of wide open space right out your door - but remember it is probably about 1% built out right now. There were plans to literally build a whole town out there. And no doubt, someday there will be. Depending on how long you're thinking of staying there bear in mind that that place is zoned, wired and plumbed to get really big. All things considered, especially being new to here, I would pick the North End. Way more social, lots more to do.

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    Go for it, it's probably a bargain now, and crowds in Boise proper suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred Smedley View Post
    Go for it, it's probably a bargain now, and crowds in Boise proper suck.
    Coming from Houston ... what he thinks is crowded and what we think is crowded might be two totally different things.

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    Haha, yeah. I took him to be referring to the crowds on the trails, though.

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    Maybe a good questions is how much do you want to spend? You can get a lot for your money out at Avimor compared with the north end. We are currently in the foothills above the north end because we were unable to find a three car garage place with a large back yard in the north end after living for close to 10 years in the north end.
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    Yeah, I'm still young, so the prices in the North End (including the foothills) are really a reach for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stalking_horse View Post
    Haha, yeah. I took him to be referring to the crowds on the trails, though.
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    Sounds like Avimor might be a good choice since prices are great out there. I would recommend finding a house that does not have a backyard that is west facing. Since there is very little shade in Avimor and it is nice to have a usable backyard in the afternoon. What is young these days?
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    I know a couple of guys that ride Avimore quite a bit and love it. They are aggressively upgrading the trails out there. I also know a guy that lives there and thinks it is great. Here are some random pros/cons.
    You do have trails right out the "back door".
    You are closer to McCall, (if you think you may want to recreate up in that area).
    You are a bit "isolated" from the normal Boise things like schools, shopping, etc...
    You would have quicker access to a wider variety of terrain if you were in Boise, (NW Boise is close to good terrain including Avimore and it is affordable).
    If it were me, I'd rent first and figure things out first. I don't think there would be many rentals in Avimore, but I could be mistaken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilycook View Post
    Sounds like Avimor might be a good choice since prices are great out there. I would recommend finding a house that does not have a backyard that is west facing. Since there is very little shade in Avimor and it is nice to have a usable backyard in the afternoon. What is young these days?
    I'm 31. We could probably spend about $315,000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dblblack View Post
    I know a couple of guys that ride Avimore quite a bit and love it. They are aggressively upgrading the trails out there. I also know a guy that lives there and thinks it is great. Here are some random pros/cons.
    You do have trails right out the "back door".
    You are closer to McCall, (if you think you may want to recreate up in that area).
    You are a bit "isolated" from the normal Boise things like schools, shopping, etc...
    You would have quicker access to a wider variety of terrain if you were in Boise, (NW Boise is close to good terrain including Avimore and it is affordable).
    If it were me, I'd rent first and figure things out first. I don't think there would be many rentals in Avimore, but I could be mistaken.
    Yeah, it seems like Avimore trails are only getting better while the "foothills proper" trails are getting more and more congested. On the other hand, being close to Bogus Basin Rd. would be nice. Avimor's isolation factor is a big one. It's kind of ironic that Avimor is billed as an environmentally sound sustainable neighborhood because you have to drive into Eagle for everything.

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    you just cut thru Dry Crk. past Hidden Springs to Cartwright to Bogus Rd easy, quick

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    Quote Originally Posted by stalking_horse View Post
    I'm 31. We could probably spend about $315,000.
    Glad to hear people in there 30s are young! In that price range you can certainly get a lot of house at Avimor or even get a decent house in the north end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stalking_horse View Post
    After years of trying, we're finally moving to Boise. I'm stoked about the riding, coming from Houston where the riding sucks.

    My initial mindset with regard to housing was "North End or bust," especially since I thought I'd be working downtown. Now it looks like I may be able to telecommute, so I'm thinking about Avimor. I haven't ridden those trails yet. How do they compare to the trails leaving from Camelsback and the Military Reserve? Any other thoughts on living in Avimor?
    If you are a leftist liberal, basically anti-American, tie-dye Democrat; The North End is definitely for you.


    Avimor went belly up back when the market crashed in 2007/2008. If you like the idea of living in a neighborhood where there is only about a dozen home built that should have had hundreds, then Avimor is for you. They are building again, but slowly.

    Have you even been to the Avimor development yet?

    Avimor sits right on Highway 55. Highway 55 is a really busy highway on the weekends and holidays. And Avimor doesn't go that far back (From the road).

    Where are you moving from?

    My wife is a real estate appraiser here. PM me if you want me to look up homes/properties/areas you might be interested in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cda 455 View Post
    If you are a leftist liberal, basically anti-American, tie-dye Democrat....
    now there's a mentality you can definetly get be-hind, if you know what I mean.
    I dig, chop, strangle, yank, stomp, annihilate, mutilate, eradicate, and FU goatheads

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    Quote Originally Posted by cda 455 View Post
    If you are a leftist liberal, basically anti-American, tie-dye Democrat; The North End is definitely for you.
    I lived in the North End for ten years and am none of those. The North End is a great place to live and has plenty of people of all beliefs. I can refer you a real estate agent that will be happy to show you some homes in the North End.
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    Haha, yeah, 31 isn't super-young, but it's young to afford some of the pricier homes near downtown.
    I've driven past Avimor several times on the way up to McCall but never turned in. Yeah, I think they should put a row of trees or something to give it some privacy. Perhaps further back in the development it wouldn't be so bad.
    Culturally, I'm hard to define, because I'm in between. I'm less liberal than most in the North End, but more liberal than most people in Eagle. I'm a family man with two little kids, but not looking for a homogenous suburb full of people just like us. Frankly, I probably fit best in the foothills above the North End, but I'm not sure we can afford it up there yet.

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    It is crazy to see how much prices have gone up in the foothills recently, we bought in 2009 when the market was down and feel lucky to have gotten in. You might consider hidden springs since they have schools in the community unlike avimor and they will have a trail link to avimor within one-two years. There is also a development down the street from me called eyrie canyon that has a bunch of lots just going up for sale. You might be able to snag one at a good price and build a house. We are 34 with two small kids and do find it nice to have kids in the area. Not sure how many kids there are out at Avimor, but that might be a downside of being way up 55.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smilycook View Post
    I lived in the North End for ten years and am none of those. The North End is a great place to live and has plenty of people of all beliefs. I can refer you a real estate agent that will be happy to show you some homes in the North End.
    Did you actually live in The North End, are just close to it?

    I worked with a doctor that used to live in The North End. He owned a H3 Hummer. His vehicle would get vandalized all the time. The pinko's would put enviro stickers on his rig. They'd spit on his rig, leave vulgar notes, etc. He got sick and tired of it and moved to Eagle.

    My Aikido sensei's dojo is at the end of 21st St. I've never seen so many hippies outside of San Fran than in The North End !

    If you've lived in The North End you should be familiar with Hyde Park. There was a Basque barber there right on 13th St. He's been there forever; a real old time barber shop. He died last year. I was real bummed.

    There's one thing I can definitely say about the liberals in The North End: They are very bicycle-friendly. I live by HP; My bicycle route to work takes me through Hill road and into Hyde Park. When I get off work at 1930HRS on a Friday and make my way up N 13th St through Hyde Park from W. Fort St., the drivers getting to Hyde Park are so patient with us bicyclists. No honking, no fist or finger waving. It's very refreshing to be treated as being a part of the community!
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    "they will have a trail link to avimor within one-two years" Hmm...that's interesting. Is that definitely happening?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilycook View Post
    It is crazy to see how much prices have gone up in the foothills recently, we bought in 2009 when the market was down and feel lucky to have gotten in. You might consider hidden springs since they have schools in the community unlike avimor and they will have a trail link to avimor within one-two years. There is also a development down the street from me called eyrie canyon that has a bunch of lots just going up for sale. You might be able to snag one at a good price and build a house. We are 34 with two small kids and do find it nice to have kids in the area. Not sure how many kids there are out at Avimor, but that might be a downside of being way up 55.
    There are trails* that you can take that'll take you all the way up to Idaho City and beyond if you want to do bike camping, etc.

    Heck, you can go all the way up to McCall on trails* that start right by Hidden Springs.


    *When I say trails I include fire roads in my definition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cda 455 View Post
    Did you actually live in The North End, are just close to it?
    Yes I have lived on 7th St., Brumback, 17th St., and 27th St. in the north end. I would certainly move back if we could find the right house. It is a very bike friendly place and the location is great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smilycook View Post
    Yes I have lived on 7th St., Brumback, 17th St., and 27th St. in the north end. I would certainly move back if we could find the right house. It is a very bike friendly place and the location is great.
    Where are you living these days?


    I live across from HP. Before I had neck surgery I was mapping a route where I would ride the last third of the way on a trail. I would end up at Military Reserve Park. Then simply cross the street to St. Lukes and I'm at work!
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