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    It's August in Idaho. Time to lose more trails to wildfires.

    A few years ago it was Fisher Creek/Williams Creek (not that it was "all that" to begin with).

    Last year it was Little Basin Creek and some of the secrets around Pine and Featherville.

    I've lost track actually. Holy cow.

    So far this year, we're losing Imperial/Greenhorn/Mahoney Gulch and as of a couple hours ago, Baker Lake. As well as the Pine/Featherville insult being added to injury.

    Crowning is visible from Bellvue and Hailey, on those rare occasions you can actually see through the smoke. Ketchum has black lung disease written all over it. Stanley's air quality alert is, what, purple?

    You can thank the vast global right wing conspiracy for this one. Again. Pfff.

    Go ride Eastside, there's still pockets of breathable air here and there in the trees.
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    I was in the valley last week and was fortunate to ride all 5 days. Looks like 2 rides that I did are now all burned.

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    what does this month have in common with february?

    i'm beginning to see a parallel between the hunt for smoke free riding this time of year and the hunt for good powder days in heart of the winter, both hunts brought to us thanks to a warming climate and the drier conditions both seasons seem to be moving towards.

    might just be time to put idaho in the rear view mirror...
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    That part of Idaho never really had consistently good powder, it was called Sun Valley for a reason! That said, vibes to the SV folks, it looks bad. My house was the closest to the fire last year here in JH, it was the forward (residential) command post...I know what folks are going through.
    That said, the trails here weren't 'lost', just did a bunch of great reroutes through the burn zone, it's some of the coolest sections of the trail now. Just pull back the ash and duff next year, and viola. Trail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    That part of Idaho never really had consistently good powder, it was called Sun Valley for a reason!
    wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong...you got that all wrong.
    you're just jealous.
    but then, maybe it was all a dream.
    i got my first face shot, as well as my first face plant - thanks to three-pin bindings - in the country north of there.
    deep doo doo every day, day after day.
    those were the days my friend...
    just believe me and quit spreading these outlandish false truths.
    thanks.
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    "Nananabooboo, I caaaant heeaaar you"
    "We LOVE cows! They make trails for us.....

    And then we eat them."

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    As of a few hour ago the Beaver Creek fire was spreading into Oregon Gulch, another fine piece of MTB real estate.

    Toast.
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    we were headed to the sawtooths today but bagged it because of the smoke - worse than here.
    when they replant i hope they look ahead and maybe plant some cannabis in with the young trees. at least any hacking and coughing would be worth more than just a headache and respiratory distress next time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedCrank View Post
    You can thank the vast global right wing conspiracy for this one. Again. Pfff.
    Please expound on that thought. Not seeing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudflap View Post
    wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong...you got that all wrong.
    you're just jealous.
    but then, maybe it was all a dream.
    i got my first face shot, as well as my first face plant - thanks to three-pin bindings - in the country north of there.
    deep doo doo every day, day after day.
    those were the days my friend...
    just believe me and quit spreading these outlandish false truths.
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    Yes, the fires are burning up prime singletrack trails. However, the fisher creek burn from a few years ago should remind everyone that just because it burns over doesn't end the good riding forever. This too shall pass. The rains will eventually come, snow, then spring. Trail crews will go forth and clear the downfall. We will go out and marvel at the views now that the trees are all sticks. Ugly, maybe, but it is natures way.
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    and where does Grand Targee get all it's snow?
    it blows in from Sun Valley.
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    That's what I said, homey
    "We LOVE cows! They make trails for us.....

    And then we eat them."

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudflap View Post
    and where does Grand Targee get all it's snow?
    it blows in from Sun Valley.
    Well, to get technical, most of it comes from orographic lift, which is due to moisture in the upper atmosphere getting trapped by the Tetons...moisture that decided not to bother with Sun Valley due to the brutal grooming. Snow wants to live its life as pow pow, you see...
    "We LOVE cows! They make trails for us.....

    And then we eat them."

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    I rode some chairs in sun valley this past winter and I hadn't ridden snow that hard since...






    ...the last time I rode at sun valley...



    ...6 years ago.



    I'm actually not kidding, but its a beautiful town, great single track, good skatepark, etc... Consistently good snow conditions are not really the norm there though.


    Bummer about your fires, we had some really bad smoke last summer but we've gotten lucky this summer, just had a few sort of smoky days, but nothing like last summer.

    Orange sunshine FTL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    That's what I said, homey
    Guilty of scanning and not reading.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred Smedley View Post
    Please expound on that thought. Not seeing it.
    Are you serious? Are you fackin serious, over?

    Mandatory evacuations for all up and down the Wood River valley now. Hard to watch, being so close and so familiar. The orders: grab you pets and grab you meds and go, don't look back.

    Hard to watch, being so close and so familiar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackbombay View Post
    I rode some chairs in sun valley this past winter and I hadn't ridden snow that hard since...Orange sunshine FTL.
    last year we had a pretty weak snowpack in south west/central idaho.

    lower elevation - below 8,000 - skiing never really happened. above 8,000 feet, different story - enough snow, but warm temps.

    the year before wasn't a whole lot better either. good thing we can bike year around here, so it's not all bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedCrank View Post
    ...Mandatory evacuations for all up and down the Wood River valley now. Hard to watch, being so close and so familiar. The orders: grab you pets and grab you meds and go, don't look back.

    Hard to watch, being so close and so familiar.
    looks like sv's rich folk's property insurers are bringing in fire fighting mercenaries to protect their precious second and third multi-million dollar homes...just like real present-day war.
    maybe some of those places need to be get smoked to boost the local economy's building contractors business.
    hopefully not. hopefully all you sv/ketchum folk survive this fire drill unscathed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mudflap View Post
    looks like sv's rich folk's property insurers are bringing in fire fighting mercenaries to protect their precious second and third multi-million dollar homes...
    Virtually anything can be accomplished with a liberal application of cash!

    It is a little ironic that some trophy homes burning down would notably help out the middle class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackbombay View Post
    Virtually anything can be accomplished with a liberal application of cash!

    It is a little ironic that some trophy homes burning down would notably help out the middle class.
    In construction/reconstruction jobs? I suppose so....cruel irony
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    Back on topic, curiously, there was almost zero smoke today on the east side of the Tetons, which is pretty unusual with smoke coming from the Twin/Hailey area. Odd.
    But if any of you are looking for clear trails (and skies), as of today, we have them.
    I'll keep y'all tuned.
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    Yea, virtually no smoke on this side either.

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    Shots of beaver creek fire.

    Beaver Creek FIre

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    Quote Originally Posted by uhoh7 View Post
    Shots of beaver creek fire.

    Beaver Creek FIre
    Great shots! Thanks for sharing. The one with the group of trees and the several hundred foot flame lengths, wow.
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    I just wanted to throw this out there. But we had a normal winter last winter.
    north is where it is at, especially for snow.

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    How much is a normal year there?

    I've been here since 1996, last winter was the worst winter I have seen, we only got 405" during the lift served season, but our lifts close before the snow stops, and we get snow before the lifts open, so we probably got 450"-500".

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    Just a bit of food for thought.

    I spent some of this weekend riding down in the Twin Falls area around Rock Creek / South Hills. It is about 20-30 miles South of Twin.

    I was amazed at how great the area is with its Aspen trees, numerous creeks, and rocky trails. I believe that the one ride capped out around 7500 feet of elevation. I think that these trails rival what we find in Stanley and in Sun Valley. The best part? Zero smoke!

    So, if you are itching for some great, high mountain single track that is only 2-3 hours away (same as Stanley and SV), then you may want to consider this area.
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    boiseboy, that sounds great. we were looking at eagles nest for today, but ended up at bogus. can you be more specific on where you rode? i'm interested.
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    I rode the trails down Rock Creek Road.
    South Mountain Nirvana and Heart Attack are their names.

    Great riding, no smoke.
    I found a map at Epic Ride Cyclery in Twin or you can lookin Steub's book, Mountain Biking Idaho.

    I was pretty impressed.
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    Is there more information about these trails? I recently leased an apartment in Ketchum and may need to evac and would like to camp and ride somewhere while away. Wanted to head south instead of north.

    Thanks

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    boiseboy, how close to magic mountain ski area were you and did you camp?

    i imagine there to be quite a few folk in the area on the weekend...but not during the week, which is just what us old retired guys are looking for.
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    found the trails on a map -
    Stueby's Outdoor Journal: Twin Falls singletrack nirvana
    thanks for the tip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoiseBoy View Post
    I rode the trails down Rock Creek Road.
    South Mountain Nirvana and Heart Attack are their names.

    Great riding, no smoke.
    I found a map at Epic Ride Cyclery in Twin or you can lookin Steub's book, Mountain Biking Idaho.

    I was pretty impressed.
    What were the temps like? Sounds like fun stuff.
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    You could also always go to the Indian Springs/ Dry Gulch area to ride. https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...76266&t=h&z=12

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