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    Curt Gowdy Conditions

    Anyone have an update for Curt Gowdy, Thanks

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    Dont plan on riding the good trails there till April or so. The lower res. trails might be dry by end of March. We just got dumped on here in Laramie, but the snow seems to be melting fast.

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    Lower trails are 99% dry, uppers still have too much snow, according to GnarBrahWyo. This is of this afternoon

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    The snow is melting very quickly. I was riding on the Chimney Park trails above Woods Landing yesterday morning and came across some bear tracks. After my ride I drove back to Laramie, grabbed my snowshoes, and then headed back up to follow the tracks. Not only had the sun completely melted the tracks but the snow was so soft that snowshoes were useless.

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    Good news on the snow report alphazz. There is some good riding up in the snowies, hopefully the fire season is not bad this year.

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    The Gowdy riding will be better this year without this guy being up there, but there are others.


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    LOL damn..I bet his ass was stalking me every now and then!

    Went out for a really short ride today, def not rideable, even on shoreline there are some parts I found myself walking around or through the snow. End of April it is then, in the meantime I will send my fork and shock to push, and hit the trainer some more.

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    ****! If thats real and i ever saw that on the trail i would probably never ride again.

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    It's real and once you are charged by one, it will change your hiking/biking habits. I never go without a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphazz View Post
    It's real and once you are charged by one, it will change your hiking/biking habits. I never go without a gun.
    No way mountain lions don't get that big. What is that a 600lb lion.

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    Since you are from New Jersey, I'm going to assume you know a lot about mountain lions in Wyoming. It's a good size lion, but the photo does make it look larger than life. 600 lbs. would be larger than that.

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    LOL, admittedly, our cats don't get that big back east . There have been reports of sightings from time to time, but I don't think anything has been confirmed, not for years anyway. I'll admit, I was skeptical when I first saw the picture, but camera angles can do a great job at messing with our perceptions. Take a look on the 'net and you can find tons of pics with hunters and the cats they have taken, and some of those look quite large as well. I'd be freaked out riding the trails with that watching me. I have a good friend who rides Gowdy and hikes/camps, and he's never without his gun or bear spray. Gives us back east an appreciation for The Wild West!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphazz View Post
    Since you are from New Jersey, I'm going to assume you know a lot about mountain lions in Wyoming. It's a good size lion, but the photo does make it look larger than life. 600 lbs. would be larger than that.
    I might have to move back to NJ if i ever run into one. Seriously how big is that i thought mountain lions only could get to be tops 200lb, that thing looks like a lion from africa. Ill be carrying a gun next time i go to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphazz View Post
    The Gowdy riding will be better this year without this guy being up there, but there are others.
    In what way has the riding been improved? Have there been any recent attacks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hdparrish View Post
    In what way has the riding been improved? Have there been any recent attacks?
    Well, I've been charged by a lion while on a trail here. And yes, recorded accounts of encounters, injuries or fatal attacks from mountain lions on humans are increasing in North America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphazz View Post
    Well, I've been charged by a lion while on a trail here. And yes, recorded accounts of encounters, injuries or fatal attacks from mountain lions on humans are increasing in North America.
    So would the actual answer to my question be: there haven't been any recent attacks on humans at Curt Gowdy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hdparrish View Post
    So would the actual answer to my question be: there haven't been any recent attacks on humans at Curt Gowdy?
    No attacks, just a few hair raising occurences while riding the park at night alone. probably was just a cow but scared me enough to stick to gravel at night for awhile.

    PSA on the system trails: Trails are crap right now. Stay away. Do not attempt to ride there till June. Snow is 4 feet deep over most of the tracks, bring your snow shoes. Where the snow isn't, it's mud 5" deep.....blah blah blah

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    I must be the only person that doesn't get excited about mountain lions... maybe it's because I grew up in the mountains so I'm use to them roaming around?! I'm actually a huge cat lady, so that picture makes me sad. Totally not against hunting, grew up hunting elk, but don't agree with big cats being killed. Like I said, cat lady. Moving on... the cows are way scarier. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

    I've noticed a lot of "re-routing" on STC when I rode back in February. Quite sad, I agree, stay on the damn trail! If you don't want to get muddy, pick up a different hobby than mountain biking for goodness sakes!

    Because I do not like hiking through snow, I think I'm sticking with stuff around FoCO for now...

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    Well, I did some searching on this so called cat killed locally. It was not. It was killed in Alberta Canada by the guy on the right who lives in Alberta Canada. The reposted pic saying it was killed near Cheyenne is fake.


    As for hiking through snow at the park to ride, I think I put my foot down once on the entire STP loop. Fat 29er tires work wonders for traction
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    Haha, nice job about the photo! When it popped up on my FB I swore I had seen it before, and now I know why

    I rode STC in the snow before, but my tires on my Epic suckkkkkk in the snow. S-Works race tires are not snow tires, haha. My other 29er gets decent snow traction, I've gone out and played in the snow before with that bike. Maybe I'll try for Gowdy tomorrow. I certainly do not mind mud! Today I'm doing Blue Sky just to get in a lot of flowy dry miles.

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    Rode Stone Temple and Igneoramus today, still has snow in some of the more shaded spots, but ride-able. Most of the trail is open and fairly dry. I decided to take the fat-bike in case there was lots of snow. I plan on taking the 29er up tomorrow and checking out the lower trails, I would imagine there are pretty dried out.

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    I think I'm gonna wait another week or two till the snow melts. I would like to ride my usual loop without having to dodge loins, snow, and hurricane winds.

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    It's suppose to snow this weekend, so waiting a week might not even matter...

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    Yeah your right. Probably just plan on heading there middle to late April.

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    You children thinking that having a gun will help if a big cat stalks and attacks you just cracks me up!
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    a gun no...

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    Thanks for all the updates on CG, I'm from Denver but get up that way in the spring and fall usually. I rode Stone Temple last April, only one on the trail as it was a weekday. I was on the trail towards the back of the circuit, don't remember the name but pretty secluded. Anyway, came around a corner and right in the middle of the trail was a fresh deer leg, heard rustling in the brush to the right, scared the crap out of me. Never saw the guy, thankfully, but I know the cats are up there. Not sure I would have had time to get my gun out of my pack in time, and hopefully he wasn't hungry anymore after chewing on that deer. Besides, I've been told I don't taste very good anyway. You guys are blessed to have those trails so close to Cheyenne and Laramie. Let me know when the conditions are better.

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    I'm heading up to ride today, but since it's suppose to snow all weekend the conditions I'll report won't matter

    When it comes to mountain lions the biggest thing to do is NOT turn and run. They're cats... cats like to chase things. Cats run faster than you, even a little house cat. You're not going to win. I live with a 12 pound bengal, I know this first hand! Also they say hold strong eye contact, as with all cats, cats do not like direct eye contact. Try it with a pet cat, and they'll look away. They don't like it.

    I've seen random deer parts up there as well... last fall someone hung a deer leg on the Pinball sign off of Stone Temple... really classy. LOL. "Yeah, take a left at the gnawed on deer leg..."

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    Got up there about 11am today, which is right when it was snowing like crazy. Still rode, though I froze my toes! Stone Temple Circuit has just very minor snow drifts left, most of them are rideable (I think I only had to walk over some 3 or 4 times, mostly because I am a wimp). Of course things were getting soft/muddy with the moisture...

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    That's good news! I better get my stuff in and out of Push here soon! That didn't sound right.."push industries" that is lol

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    Happy Jack trails are rideable ... if you have a fat bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphazz View Post
    Happy Jack trails are rideable ... if you have a fat bike.

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    That's pretty cool, almost like skiing lol

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    Curt Gowdy was nice today...for fat wheels
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    I need those mitten things!!!

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    Get along, little Pogie?

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    I guess this can be the official update page lol has anybody been to curt gowdy here recently? Wanting to get some feedback...planning on going tomorrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by jesse101 View Post
    I guess this can be the official update page lol has anybody been to curt gowdy here recently?
    I was there today. The southeast trails, those around Crystal Lake Reservoir in particular, are dry and/or mud free. Some of the trails to the north -- Crow Creek in particular -- have mud in spots but riding them was fine if a bit squishy (at least from a almost-always-dry Wyoming perspective).
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    Thanks for the info! Sounds promising..

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    I rode Curt Gowdy on easter. Was a great ride for start of season. Rode stone temple, alberts alley to mo-rocka, fox-tail, to crow creek. Muddy in a few spots, nothing too bad. I ran into a bit of snow on alberts alley, and crow creek, but nothing to complain about. I was a little rusty for my pedal timing on rocks. However I cleaned one section on mo-rocka uphill that I couldnt conquer last season.

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    Thinking I'll head up there today... I wish it'd be sunny, but at least the trails are looking good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sooshee View Post
    Thinking I'll head up there today... I wish it'd be sunny, but at least the trails are looking good!
    Anyone have an update, was thinking of heading up on sat. thanks

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    Since everything was more or less rideable or in great shape this past Sunday and there's been no real precipitation since then and no significant chance for rain or snow is forecast through the weekend -- it's going to be good (other than "crowded").
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    Had to go to Cheyenne today, so couldn't resist stopping at Gowdy on the way with the spousal unit -- we had fun. The trails were in awesome shape. Even the snow drift I left an imprint in last Sunday was hardly there today.
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    Crow Creek was the only really muddy place I found today... Rode 16 miles, and it was awesome! Lowers are definitely all dry, STC only had a bit of mud here and there.

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    any current updates after this past storm?

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    Yes please any update want to ride this weekend if possible

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    If you got a fat bike I'm sure it's good to go, but I'm doubting anything is clear. Then we are scheduled for snow mon tue and wed..sux

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    rode it yesterday - it was great save for a few snow banks here and there - it will be shut back down though with this next storm - supposed to be significant. the main thing once it thaws is to avoid crow creek - it was consistently muddy yesterday - we just kept going back up to mo rocka as the connector - much drier....

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    Pray for monsoonal rain and warm temps my friends. Current snow pack is the worst I've seen in 3 years at this time of year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wyoracerX View Post
    Pray for monsoonal rain and warm temps my friends. Current snow pack is the worst I've seen in 3 years at this time of year.
    Really? Have you been above Centennial lately?

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    I'll take a nice green Gowdy this year. I'll keep riding around on the dirt roads down here in Nebraska. Good to see some moisture up there.

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    We can have all the moisture we want, but if idiots still go and light the forests on fire, it doesn't really matter with all the dead trees... Seriously people, stop catching stuff on fire!

    I heard on the news that snowpack is now where it is suppose to be with the past few storms. Woohoo. Now please dry out trails. The skiers have gotten their fair share of Happy Jack this winter, my turn!

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    I don't like the smoke, but forest fires are not all bad. Forest fires do more good than 100 years of forest management by the forest service by solving problems like the pine beetle.

    And, it makes for some pretty cool riding if our government would quit trying to control everything and everyone and let us enjoy it.


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    Any Gowdy intel from this weekend (4/28)? Might have a chance to get there Tuesday AM, and there looks like more weather moving in Tuesday afternoon and into Wednesday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeT View Post
    Any Gowdy intel from this weekend (4/28)? Might have a chance to get there Tuesday AM, and there looks like more weather moving in Tuesday afternoon and into Wednesday.
    Drove by gowdy yesterday still saw big drifts in upper & lower trails. Might be ride-able by Tuesday.

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    Peter, saw riders heading out of Aspen Grove onto ST loop. I'd expect snow and mud on some of it. Rode out to Middle Kingdom and did laps of the climb. Only one small snow patch (rideable) on top. Mahogany / Canyons clear.
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    Sticky the Curt Gowdy thread

    Is it time to make this thread Sticky?

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    Group ride at Gowdy canceled do to weather. Stay tuned for next Thursday's group ride on May 9!

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    That's wimpy.

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    I wish we could get this stickied... or can we just rebel and request southern WY gets moved OUT of the Idaho/Montana section since we're not anywhere near those two states?

    So now that we got another foot of snow, the wait for dry trails continues...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sooshee View Post
    I wish we could get this stickied... or can we just rebel and request southern WY gets moved OUT of the Idaho/Montana section since we're not anywhere near those two states?

    So now that we got another foot of snow, the wait for dry trails continues...
    LOL yea i always wondered why we got linked to MT and Idaho..meanwhile Cheyenne is like 9 miles from the CO border.

    but to piggy back sooshee, anybody been out recently? im tired of riding at the gym or running, want to hit some canyon trails.

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    or can we just rebel and request southern WY gets moved OUT of the Idaho/Montana section since we're not anywhere near those two states?
    Yeah, but that's relative. Australia and NZ share a forum.

    Just ask a moderator to sticky this thread. Seems like a reasonable request.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jesse101 View Post
    LOL yea i always wondered why we got linked to MT and Idaho..meanwhile Cheyenne is like 9 miles from the CO border.

    but to piggy back sooshee, anybody been out recently? im tired of riding at the gym or running, want to hit some canyon trails.
    Yeah, considering most of us browse the Front Range forum more because that's what's close! This forum section is all blah blah jackson hole blah blah blah like it's all that there is in Wyoming.

    The sun I'm sure is helping with drying some things out. I know we melted off pretty quickly here in Cheyenne, but anything dirt is still pretty muddy. So I'm guessing the same goes for Gowdy.

    I still want Happy Jack to dry out. Ughhhhh so eager to ride up there! I know it was all dry up there this time last year, as I remember hiking in shorts last year on May 5th up in Vedauwoo. Funny how this year everything is still under a few feet of snow!

    Oh, Jesse... you should consider racing in the Gowdy Grinder! Fun little race on May 19th www.gowdygrinder.com

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    4 May

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    Snow covers most of the trails at Aspen Grove with "ponds" dotting here and there.


    I have asked the moderator to sticky this thread btw.
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    Thanks for the update Looks like things will be messy for awhile!

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    You guys want this thread stickied...Cool.
    But is it something that should be moved from this regional forum to the Colorado Front Range forum...........?
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    Group ride planed May 9 at Gowdy. Plan is to meet at the Aspen Grove Trail head around 5:30. Hopefully the snow is mostly gone. Mud conditions should be great!

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    Can we cross-post the thread to the front range forum - without having to move it? It will be confusing for folks to find if they don't know it's been stuffed into co...

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    Thanks Tony, I think this works well here. The guys in Colorado know where to find us. No cross posting necessary Fatpig

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    You guys want this thread stickied...Cool.
    But is it something that should be moved from this regional forum to the Colorado Front Range forum...........?
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    Rode my usual loop up stone temple, alberts alley, and mo rocka. Trails were mostly dry, no snow, and soil was quite tacky.

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    Forgot to mention there was a few downed trees on stone temple, and alberts alley yesterday. So watch out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sooshee View Post
    Yeah, considering most of us browse the Front Range forum more because that's what's close! This forum section is all blah blah jackson hole blah blah blah like it's all that there is in Wyoming.

    The sun I'm sure is helping with drying some things out. I know we melted off pretty quickly here in Cheyenne, but anything dirt is still pretty muddy. So I'm guessing the same goes for Gowdy.

    I still want Happy Jack to dry out. Ughhhhh so eager to ride up there! I know it was all dry up there this time last year, as I remember hiking in shorts last year on May 5th up in Vedauwoo. Funny how this year everything is still under a few feet of snow!

    Oh, Jesse... you should consider racing in the Gowdy Grinder! Fun little race on May 19th www.gowdygrinder.com
    man that would be awesome! only problem...they got me in Minot ND till the 24th, so this sucks! **** I will pass it along to others that may be interested who will be in town. I remember seeing that race last year, and i promised myself that i will enter this year, but now with this TDY, im burnt. sucks all around.

    this rain and medium to hot weather ought to clear things up around curt gowdy, hopefully anyhow...I know when i get back i am going to binge at least 4 days a week. Then i am going to raid demo day and see which bike i might want to purchase lol

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    Conditions are great.
    hero dirt everywhere.

    LaramieBikenet ride went well tonight. Hope to see more mtbr'ers out there this summer
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    Great riding with you Brian. I would not be able to ride until Sunday afternoon, say 2?
    Let me know. Kyle

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    Thanks everyone for coming out to the laramiebikenet group ride. See next ride details on laramiebikenet thread.

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    By the way thanks wyoracerx, for some great ride tips on handling the granite at gowdy!

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    I was thinking of heading up this afternoon/evening by myself If anyone will be up there.

    I ended up getting up there pretty late so I just spent most of my time in the middle kingdom play area trying to get more comfortable on the kona. Conditions up there were awesome it wasnt windy and about the perfect temperature.
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    There's two downed trees on Stone Temple Circuit, so be careful if you're hauling butt down the backside of STC (going clockwise) as there's an aspen tree across the trail at about neck level.

    I'm heading up tomorrow to get in lots of practice on Ignoramus and Rock N Roller before the Grinder.

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    Hey Gowdy folks, I'm heading there in mid-June for a couple days for the first time. Can someone share a link to the best trails map available please? Also, looking for advise on where in the park to camp, preferably where we can ride from the camp site to the trail head. Thanks, J

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    Pretty much where ever you camp in the park you can jump on the trails. Here's the general website for the park: Wyoming State Parks, Historic Sites & Trails - Curt Gowdy State Park

    Trail map:http://wyoparks.state.wy.us/pdf/CurtGowdyTrailMap.pdf

    The park is very well signed, all trail intersections have a color map so it's pretty hard to get lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sooshee View Post
    Pretty much where ever you camp in the park you can jump on the trails. Here's the general website for the park: Wyoming State Parks, Historic Sites & Trails - Curt Gowdy State Park

    Trail map:http://wyoparks.state.wy.us/pdf/CurtGowdyTrailMap.pdf

    The park is very well signed, all trail intersections have a color map so it's pretty hard to get lost.

    AWESOME! Thanks folks, can't wait to visit.

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    Group ride this sunday near Wy-Colo. Check laramiebikenet thread for more details!

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    Group ride this Thursday at Twin mtn. Checkout laramiebikenet thread for more info!

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    You're about to drive into the park from the east. It's after dark and you've never been to Gowdy before. Where is the best place to pitch your tent? Most awesome/pretty/near a lake or whatever spot to camp for a few days?

    If you could throw a Google Maps pin on a map and link it here, that would be awesome. If not, maybe a few ideas on how to get there after driving for 10 hours, bleary eyed and ignorant.

    Local knowledge please.
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    Last left turn before the right turn into Aspen Grove. OR you can also camp in Aspen Grove. Nice grassy area on the left just as you are passing the wooden fence, hopefully an RV doesn't beat you to it.
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    Going up there today for a day of riding camping and climbing. It'll be my first time and it looks awesome. Can't wait!

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    Got there for free entrance and demo day. Got to ride a FS 29 Stumpjumper. Trails were dry and it was a great time. Climbing today at the Veuwoo was just as fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyoracerX View Post
    Last left turn before the right turn into Aspen Grove. OR you can also camp in Aspen Grove. Nice grassy area on the left just as you are passing the wooden fence, hopefully an RV doesn't beat you to it.
    Sweet. Much thanks, my man

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    Re: Curt Gowdy Conditions

    Attn, 6/23 XTerra event occurring. Best to avoid area that Sunday
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    Quote Originally Posted by wyoracerX View Post
    Attn, 6/23 XTerra event occurring. Best to avoid area that Sunday
    Thanks for the heads up!

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    Laramiebikenet group ride planned up in the snowies on sunday. PM me if anyone wants to join.

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    The cows are back...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sooshee View Post
    The cows are back...
    So are trails full of crap.

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    Yes, crap and the cows are angry and mean.

    Happy Jack's trails are full of horse crap, so it's crappy no matter where you go!

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    Yes, they are horrible. Everyone should stay off the trails til October. ;-)

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    Bull crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyoracerX View Post
    Yes, they are horrible. Everyone should stay off the trails til October. ;-)

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    LOL. I see what you did there

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    Anyone up for a group ride in the Snowy Range this Sunday? Message me today if you are interested.

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    From Denver, trails are all trashed. Please tell me Curt Gowdy is rideable. Desperate.

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