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    Build it, they will come...

    For me it's a case of deja vu? When seeking the best possible way to do something, I always seek out the best no matter what the cost! What the hell is wrong with you guys !? If you want to build dirt jumps hire a professional "BMX dirt jumper!" If you want to build structures/stunts/skinnies/ and other f$%^$ up names you come up with. Seek out the best possible scenarios and contract a "professional construction company!" . What ever happened to Willow Lane? When I showed up 2yrs after it was built some of the weeds were over 6ft tall and only 3 lines were rideable. All that time, money, donations and you let it fail. What will happen to Velopark? All of that advertising and 50 people show up to help build a trail? something is not right. The problem isn't with the core MTB riders and the leaders of SWIMBA but rather, not understanding BMX, how to incorperate into MTB and keep it sustainable. FR is beginner BMX on a motorless MX and riding on a 2x4 4ft up and bouncing over jumps is not hardcore or MTB? If you want to make sure you have the right guy in charge of building jumps, make sure he can take jumps and drops on a HT without blowing/bending his wheels.

    I was at Velopark a month or so ago and saw some dude jumping the monster tables on a brown and purple "Transition HT". I was over a 100yrds away and could hear the wheels smacking the ground on every landing. You need to figure out the """Bunny Hop"""!! Pull up at the lip... level it out... set your angle for the landing ... bend your 3ft suspension legs and roll out smoothly on to the next one. Quit trying to reinvent the wheel and just ride!

    Rule #7. HAVE FUN!

    It's not about complaining but doing things right. Call Woodward or the guys at BIBBS if you want to make the trails burlier and make a killer park. The IMBA is a bunch of posers when it comes to jumps, MTB trails are outstanding!!.





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    Once again you are seriously ill-informed and master of the assumption.

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    Blame yourself

    [QUOTE=Genius'er]For me it's a case of deja vu? When seeking the best possible way to do something, I always seek out the best no matter what the cost! What the hell is wrong with you guys !? If you want to build dirt jumps hire a professional "BMX dirt jumper!" If you want to build structures/stunts/skinnies/ and other f$%^$ up names you come up with. Seek out the best possible scenarios and contract a "professional construction company!" . What ever happened to Willow Lane? When I showed up 2yrs after it was built some of the weeds were over 6ft tall and only 3 lines were rideable. All that time, money, donations and you let it fail. What will happen to Velopark? All of that advertising and 50 people show up to help build a trail? something is not right. The problem isn't with the core MTB riders and the leaders of SWIMBA but rather, not understanding BMX, how to incorperate into MTB and keep it sustainable. FR is beginner BMX on a motorless MX and riding on a 2x4 4ft up and bouncing over jumps is not hardcore or MTB? If you want to make sure you have the right guy in charge of building jumps, make sure he can take jumps and drops on a HT without blowing/bending his wheels.

    I was at Velopark a month or so ago and saw some dude jumping the monster tables on a brown and purple "Transition HT". I was over a 100yrds away and could hear the wheels smacking the ground on every landing. You need to figure out the """Bunny Hop"""!! Pull up at the lip... level it out... set your angle for the landing ... bend your 3ft suspension legs and roll out smoothly on to the next one. Quit trying to reinvent the wheel and just ride!

    Rule #7. HAVE FUN!

    It's not about complaining but doing things right. Call Woodward or the guys at BIBBS if you want to make the trails burlier and make a killer park. The IMBA is a bunch of posers when it comes to jumps, MTB trails are outstanding!!.









    The way I see it, you have nobody to blame, but yourself and others like you. If you intended to use the Velopark then you should have either donated a ton of money to help make it happen or donate a ton of time so that everybody in Boise would have learned how to build a jump park to YOUR specefications.

    The Willow Lane dirt jumps are the same. People cried about not having a jump park. To their credit, people organized and mobilized to make it happen. Unfortunately, those same people did not keep it up so it has become overgrown and more or less an afterthought to all but a few. If you are so passionate about Willow Lane then you should take charge and organize cleanup efforts.

    As far as I am concerned (and many others share this opinion) your BMXing is not "hardcore" at all. I see it as a bunch of 12 y/o skateboarder type kids along with a handfull of adulst who only get respect from 12y/o kids and not the rest of the world. Your BMX is similar to that guy that walks his tight rope between two trees at Camel's Back Park. You stop to watch for a minute thinking, that is interesting, then walk away never thinking about it again.
    When I think of hardcore, I think of those insane people that actually pedal their bikes (sometimes up hill) for ridiculous amounts of time and for ridiculous mileages and at such elevations. You should look up Davie Wiens and the Leadville 100 if you want to talk about hardcore. (100 miles, all between 10,000 - 12,000 feet in elevation). Try actually riding your bike more than 100 yards once and get back to us!
    We all have our ideas of what is "right", "hardcore", and "what everybody wants". My idea of hardcore is likely just as narrow viewed as yours, but it shows you another opinion.

    "It's not about complaining but doing things right"
    I am calling you out on this one! I hear nothing from your awful posts other than complaining and bragging up petty skills that only you think are important. If you truly want to do things right then you would organize, volunteer, donate, and educate others rather than doing what you are doing. You are doing things far from right.
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    Mmmmm cofffeeee

    Sometimes when you make a beautiful piece of floating art it is better to just enjoy and not pick it up and hurl it. Once it is thrown there is someone else that feels compelled to throw it back.

    I miss the old days where spackle just stayed put and was enjoyed by all even those who where incapable of reaching the high water mark.

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    Here is to coffee and the dog farting at my feet in the morning....nothing better I tell you except for that one time in the 3rd floor handicap bathroom stall.

    Here is to "weak sauce", "Ghris Fook", frotteurism, Earthpig, and spackle...i.e. the good ol' days. And honestly, nothing has really changed. Entitlement still rages on. It is just the names of those who complain about trails change. I'm just sayin'.
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    Yawn.... I'm going for a ride...

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    watched the vid - looks like dh bmx to me.

    The Olympic course smoked that silly dh stuff


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    Did you know that Bag Balm isn't just udder lube?

    It also makes a fine cupcake frosting for the cowgirl in your life. Use liberally.

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    Al said "farting"

    I'm appalled.

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    These threads are worthless without threats of flatulence.

    Flatulence is the expulsion through the rectum of a mixture of gases that are byproducts of the digestion process of mammals and other animals. The mixture of gases is known as flatus, (informally) fart, or simply gas, and is expelled from the rectum in a process colloquially referred to as "passing gas" or "farting". Flatus is brought to the rectum by the same peristaltic process which causes feces to descend from the large intestine. The noises commonly associated with flatulence are caused by the vibration of the anal sphincter, and occasionally by the closed buttocks

    Nitrogen, the main constituent of air, is the primary gas released during flatulence, along with carbon dioxide, which is present in higher quantities in those who drink carbonated beverages regularly. The lesser component gases methane and hydrogen are flammable, and so flatus containing adequate amounts of these can be ignited. However, not all humans produce flatus that contains methane. For example, in one study of the faeces of nine adults, only five of the samples contained archaea capable of producing methane.[1] Similar results are found in samples of gas obtained from within the rectum.

    The gas released during a flatus event frequently has an unpleasant odor which mainly results from low molecular weight fatty acids, such as butyric acid, (rancid butter smell) and reduced sulphur compounds, such as hydrogen sulphide (rotten egg smell) and carbonyl sulphide. All of these components are the result of protein breakdown. The incidence of odoriferous compounds in flatulence emissions increases from herbivores, such as cattle, through omnivores to carnivorous species, such as cats.[citation needed] Such odor can also be caused by the presence of large numbers of microflora bacteria and/or the presence of faeces in the rectum.

    The major components of the flatus, which are odorless, by percentage are:
    Nitrogen - 20% - 90%
    Hydrogen - 0% - 50%
    Carbon Dioxide - 10% - 30%
    Oxygen - 0% - 10%
    Methane - 0% - 10%

    The sound varies depending on the tightness of the sphincter muscle and velocity of the gas being propelled, as well as other factors, such as water and body fat. The auditory pitch (sound) of the flatulence outburst can also be affected by the anal embouchure. Among humans, flatulence occasionally happens accidentally, such as incidentally to coughing or sneezing or during orgasm; on other occasions, flatulence can be voluntarily elicited by tensing the rectum or "bearing down" on stomach or bowel muscles and subsequently relaxing the anal sphincter, resulting in the expulsion of a flatus.

    Flatus is brought to the rectum by the same process which causes feces to descend from the large intestine, and may cause a similar feeling of urgency and discomfort. Nerve endings in the rectum usually enable individuals to distinguish between flatus and feces, [3] although loose stool can confuse the individual, occasionally resulting in accidental defecation (commonly known as "following through").

    Intestinal gas is composed of varying quantities of exogenous sources (air that is ingested through the nose and mouth) and endogenous sources (gas produced within the digestive tract). The exogenous gases are swallowed (aerophagia) when eating or drinking or increased swallowing during times of excessive salivation (as might occur when nauseated or as the result of gastroesophageal reflux disease). The endogenous gases are produced either as a by-product of digesting certain types of food, or of incomplete digestion. Anything that causes food to be incompletely digested by the stomach and/or small intestine may cause flatulence when the material arrives in the large intestine, due to fermentation by yeast or prokaryotes normally or abnormally present in the gastrointestinal tract.

    Flatulence-producing foods are typically high in certain polysaccharides, (especially oligosaccharides such as inulin). Those foods include beans, lentils, dairy products, onions, garlic, scallions, leeks, turnips, rutabagas, radishes, sweet potatoes, potatoes, cashews, Jerusalem artichokes, oats, wheat, and yeast in breads. Cauliflower, broccoli, cabbage, Brussels sprouts and other cruciferous vegetables that belong to the genus Brassica are commonly reputed to not only increase flatulence, but to increase the pungency of the flatus. In beans, endogenous gases seem to arise from complex oligosaccharide (carbohydrates) that are particularly resistant to digestion by mammals, but which are readily digestible by microorganisms (methane-producing archaea; Methanobrevibacter smithii) that inhabit the digestive tract. These oligosaccharides pass through the upper intestine largely unchanged, and when they reach the lower intestine, bacteria feed on them, producing copious amounts of flatus. In the case of people who have lactose intolerance, intestinal bacteria feeding on lactose can give rise to excessive gas production when milk or lactose-containing substances have been consumed.

    Interest in the causes of flatulence was spurred by high-altitude flight and the space program; the low atmospheric pressure, confined conditions, and stresses peculiar to those endeavours were cause for concern. In the field of mountaineering, high altitude flatus expulsion was first noticed over two hundred years ago.

    Certain spices have been reported to counteract the production of intestinal gas, most notably cumin, coriander, caraway and the closely related ajwain, turmeric, asafoetida (Hing), epazote, and kombu kelp (a Japanese seaweed). Most starches, including potatoes, corn, noodles, and wheat, produce gas as they are broken down in the large intestine. Rice is the only starch that does not cause gas The amount of water-soluble oligosaccharide in beans that may contribute to production of intestinal gas is reputed to be reduced by a long period of soaking followed by boiling, but at a cost of also leaching out other water-soluble nutrients.[citation needed] Also, intestinal gas can be reduced by fermenting the beans, and making them less gas-inducing, and/or by cooking them in the liquor from a previous batch.

    Lactobacillus casei and Lactobacillus plantarum have recently been hypothesized as being responsible for this effect Some legumes also stand up to prolonged cooking, which can help break down the oligosaccharides into simple sugars. Fermentation also breaks down oligosaccharides, which is why fermented bean products such as miso are less likely to produce as much intestinal gas).

    Probiotics (live yogurt, kefir, etc.) are reputed to reduce flatulence when used to restore balance to the normal intestinal flora Live yogurt contains Lactobacillus acidophilus which may be useful in reducing flatulence. L. acidophilus may make the intestines more acidic, thus maintaining the natural balance of fermentation processes. L. acidophilus is available in supplements (non-dairy is reputedly best[weasel words]). Prebiotics, which generally are non-digestible oligosaccharides, such as fructooligosaccharide, generally increase flatulence in a similar way as described for lactose intolerance.

    Medicinal activated charcoal tablets (brand name CharcoCaps) have also been reported as effective in reducing both odor and quantity of flatus when taken immediately before food that is likely to cause flatulence later.

    Digestive enzyme supplements may significantly reduce the amount of flatulence caused by some components of foods not being digested by the body and thereby promoting the action of microbes in the small and large intestines. It has been suggested that alpha-galactosidase enzymes, which can digest certain complex sugars, are effective in reducing the volume and frequency of flatus The enzymes alpha-galactosidase ), lactase, amylase, lipase, protease, cellulase, glucoamylase, invertase, malt diastase, pectinase, and bromelain are available, either individually or in combination blends, in commercial products.

    The antibiotic rifaximin, often used to treat diarrhea caused by the microorganism E. coli, may reduce both the production of intestinal gas and the frequency of flatus events

    While not affecting the production of the gases themselves, surfactants (agents which lower surface tension) can reduce the disagreeable sensations associated with flatulence, by aiding the dissolution of the gases into liquid and solid fecal matter. [10] Preparations containing simethicone reportedly operate by promoting the coalescence of smaller bubbles into larger ones more easily passed from the body, either by burping or flatulence. Such preparations do not decrease the total amount of gas generated in or passed from the colon, but make the bubbles larger and thereby allowing them to be passed more easily.

    Often it may be helpful to ingest small quantities of acidic liquids with meals, such as lemon juice or vinegar, to stimulate the production of gastric hydrochloric acid. In turn, acid ingestion may increase normal gastric enzyme and acid production, facilitating normal digestion and perhaps limiting intestinal gas production. Ingestion of bromelain- or papain-containing supplements (such as raw pineapple or papaya, respectively,) may be helpful.[citation needed]

    Odor from flatulence, caused by the intestinal bacteria called microflora in the bowel, can be treated by taking bismuth subgallate, available over-the-counter as Devrom. Bismuth subgallate is commonly used by individuals who have had ostomy surgery, bariatric surgery, fecal incontinence and irritable bowel syndrome.

    In 1998, Chester "Buck" Weimer of Pueblo, Colorado received a patent for the first undergarment that contained a replaceable charcoal filter. The undergarments are air-tight and provide a pocketed escape hole in which a charcoal filter can be inserted.

    A similar product was released in 2002, but rather than an entire undergarment, consumers are able to purchase an insert similar to a pantiliner that contains activated charcoal. The inventors, Myra and Brian Conant of Mililani, Hawaii still claim on their website to have discovered the undergarment product in 2002 (eight years after Chester Weimer filed for a patent for his product), but state that their tests "concluded" that they should release an insert instead.

    As a normal body function, the action of flatulence is an important signal of bowel activity, and hence is often documented by nursing staff following surgical or other treatment of patients. However, symptoms of excessive flatulence can indicate the presence of irritable bowel syndrome or some other organic disease. In particular, the sudden occurrence of excessive flatulence together with the onset of new symptoms provide reason for seeking further medical examination.

    Flatulence is not poisonous; it is a natural component of various intestinal contents. However, discomfort may develop from the build-up of gas pressure if an attempt is made to refrain from releasing them. In theory, pathological distension of the bowel, leading to constipation, could result if a person holds in flatulence.

    Not all flatus is released from the body via the anus. When the partial pressure of any gas component of the intestinal lumen is higher than its partial pressure in the blood, that component enters into the bloodstream of the intestinal wall by the process of diffusion. As the blood passes through the lungs, this gas can diffuse back out of the blood and be exhaled. If a person holds in flatus during daytime, it will often be released during sleep involuntarily when the body is relaxed. Some flatus can become trapped within the feces during its compaction and will exit the body, still contained within the fecal matter, during the process of defecation.

    Flatulence is often blamed as a significant source of greenhouse gases, owing to the erroneous belief that the methane released by livestock is in the flatus. While livestock account for around 20% of global methane emissions, 90-95% of that is released by exhaling or burping. Only 1–2% of global methane emissions come from livestock flatus.

    Since New Zealand produces large amounts of agricultural product it is in a unique position of having high methane emissions livestock compared to other greenhouse gas sources. The New Zealand government is a signatory to the Kyoto Protocol and therefore, attempts are being made to reduce greenhouse emissions. To achieve this an agricultural emissions research levy was proposed, which promptly became known as a "fart tax" or "flatulence tax". It encountered opposition from farmers, farming lobby groups and opposition politicians.

    In Fresno, California, a system to harvest methane by-product from dairy cattle and convert it to usable bio-gas is being used, in a partnership with Pacific Gas & Electric (PG&E) and BioEnergy Solutions, in which BioEnergy Solutions sells the methane harvested from cows to PG&E, who then converts the methane to usable bio-gas, which is very similar to natural gas.

    In June 2009 Paul McCartney and other celebrities launched a "Meat Free Monday" campaign in order to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from the world's livestock.

    In many cultures, human flatulence in public is regarded as embarrassing but, depending on context, can also be considered humorous. People will often strain to hold in the passing of gas when in polite company, or position themselves to conceal the noise and scent. In other cultures, it may be no more embarrassing than coughing.

    While the act of passing flatus is generally considered to be an unfortunate occurrence in public settings, flatulence may, in casual circumstances and especially among children, be used as either a humorous supplement to a joke ("pull my finger"), or as a comic activity in and of itself. The social acceptability of flatulence-based humor in entertainment and the mass media varies over the course of time and between cultures.

    Historical comment on the ability to fart at will is observed in St. Augustine's The City of God. Augustine, not otherwise noted for his levity, mentions men who "have such command of their bowels, that they can break wind continuously at will, so as to produce the effect of singing." The fact that mankind in general has lost this ability he attributes to the first sin of Adam and Eve and its consequences with respect to body control.

    Le Pétomane ("The Fartiste") was a famous French performer in the 19th century, as well as many professional farters before him, did flatulence impressions and held shows. The performer Mr. Methane carries on Le Pétomane's tradition today.
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    I believe we have a winner!

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    BMX'ing is not "hardcore" at all

    I consider that "cowgirl" comment Trail Bait earthpig. You KNOW that I have a little cowgirl "problem" and you also know that I have a veritable raft of lovely photos of nudist dude ranch cowgirls happily astride their steeds some even at a full gallup! You know that I WANT to post these beautiful photos and the mere mention of cowgirls throws me into a terrible cognitive dissonance. Sure you jokers can stick up hideous shots of carrot top in the nude and that's apparantlly OK since he is a man and a comic HOWEVER there seems to be some sort of BIAS around here about gorgous women euphorically steeding about in the wonder of nature. I DEMAND an apology!
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    Is the last word on that sign "MILF"?

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    I'm just looking for a woman who can show me the wonders of orgasm-induced flatulence with the occasional "following through," whether cowgirl, MILF, or other female of the species who does not own cats.

    I gave her my heart and she made me shart.

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    it's MILK pdlhrd

    and i didn't hear a certain someone say "I'm sorry"
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    This without question needs to be deemed a "Sticky" Thread. Take that however you need to.

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    Twisted did the impossible and made this thread have value.
    Oh sh!+ just force upgraded to cat1. Now what?
    Best thing about an ultra marathon? I just get to ride my bike for X hours!

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    Your missing my point! MTB is supposed to be about technical climbing thousands of feet which is what I'm after!!!!. BUT REMEMBER!!! MTB bikes had voided warranties if both wheels left the ground utill only a few years ago!! I'm to old to BMX so I'm stuck MTBing now but I like it and the trails/climbs are pretty amazing here to say the least.

    I'm far from misinformed Ivan. That picture down below is from 1984 at the Wheaties Grand Nat's. Those 2 jumps one of which is a step up and the other a double are the smaller of the jumps on this track. I remember it well because of the dirt eaten on them. Beginners, Novice, Expert, Semi-pro and Pro all rode the same track. They did not have seperate lines or tracks for each catagory. It's supposed to be about the riders ability not the bikes or stunts!! Pick up some BMX mags and videos to see how it's done, stick with the tried and true. BMX bikes are the same as they were 30yrs ago, suspension MTB change every hour.

    Willow Lane?? I pulled all of those weeds but you all complained about it because I didn't ask permission...?? Sorry, missed the memo on harvest time and the other jumps needed some TLC.
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    Whatever.

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    Wiley E Coyote (aka Genius'er) you should post put your posts up on pinkbike...you may get somebody over there to listen to you
    Just ride down there and jump off something for crying out loud...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlliKat
    Twisted did the impossible and made this thread have value.
    Nothing is impossible when Twisted is involved.

    Except perhaps rabid hamster neutering. That's a bit tricky.

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    you are doing things far from right

    Let us please hear a chorus of posts telling other posters to stop posting. Please post telling others not to post. Thank you. Thank you very much. If people just stop posting here then we can all stop staring into our computer screens and go out for a ride! PM posters and tell them to stop posting. Thank you. Tell posters that they are stupid. Tell them that their bicycle riding isn't valid. Tell them that their type of riding isn't "hardcore" enough. MILK it for all you can. Think of this site as "turf". Try to make the turf your turf and nobody else's. Drive other posters away by insulting them. Then it can just be YOU. You and only you. Expecially insult the youngest riders. Get Rid Of The Youth! We want them playing video games. Not taking up our precious buff buff singletrack.
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    "We LOVE cows! They make trails for us.....

    And then we eat them."

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    haaaaaa.....the date with the one legged girl thread from the other board

    You crack me up rideit
    Just ride down there and jump off something for crying out loud...

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    Finally something with substance

    Spacktacular thread. Spacktoids and Spackle Pops - who gets what?

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