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    Who is waiting for a "real" dedicated 650b Ibis ?

    I know I am not the only one here that feels like the HDR-650b is a bit of a "fudge".
    I love the SL-R, having previously been on the Mojo , but could not get myself to buy the HD-R 650b ( and I was all ready to splurge - so I got the nomad instead to get some thing significantly different from the SLR and more down hill oriented).
    The HDR is a great choice for someone who wants the 26" as it has the additional advantage of a 650b option, but to me it does not feel like the right choice as the dedicated 650b bike.


    So I am waiting.. I test rode the bronson, in comparison with the HDR-650 and I honestly prefer the DW-Link. To me the bronson just shows that 150mm can be built to ~5lbs, so I am waiting for Ibis to release either a 650b 140-150mm DW link @ 5lbs , or a 650b 160mm 6lbs DW link .


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    I will be second on the list for a dedicated 275 160 bike

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    I'm just looking for someting to eventually replace the HD, whether its 650b or not I don't care. If its less travel I'd like 650, in fact that might be the ticket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heatstroke View Post
    I know I am not the only one here that feels like the HDR-650b is a bit of a "fudge".
    I love the SL-R, having previously been on the Mojo , but could not get myself to buy the HD-R 650b ( and I was all ready to splurge - so I got the nomad instead to get some thing significantly different from the SLR and more down hill oriented).
    The HDR is a great choice for someone who wants the 26" as it has the additional advantage of a 650b option, but to me it does not feel like the right choice as the dedicated 650b bike.


    So I am waiting.. I test rode the bronson, in comparison with the HDR-650 and I honestly prefer the DW-Link. To me the bronson just shows that 150mm can be built to ~5lbs, so I am waiting for Ibis to release either a 650b 140-150mm DW link @ 5lbs , or a 650b 160mm 6lbs DW link .


    Patiently waiting.. CC is ready... just say when
    I love my HDR650, why don't you consider it a "real" 650B?

    you say it's a feeling.......uncertain what you mean by that.

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    perception might be a better word.

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    I really like the ride of my HD. Sorry to say, the HDR is simply a bandaid approach to 650b. 130 650b? Why? This has all been said before actually. I mean 130mm is less travel than the SL or SLR yet HDR weighs a pound more.

    HDR should be redesigned from the ground up.
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    Does the HDR in 650b mode not ride well? Just curious cause i've been considering it

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    I am looking @the HDR because it has 130mm of travel. I want a stiff stout frame that I can ride as hard as I like. After having some 5lb carbon frames fail on me, I am looking for something that I can ride for a few seasons and not worry about. I use my bike for everything from Enduro racing to XC after work racing to locals. I like having one bike and this one is on the top of my list. Hoping to test ride one soon.

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    It rides well, but it is overbuilt for the travel and the BB is 14"+ in 275/147 mode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salespunk View Post
    It rides well, but it is overbuilt for the travel and the BB is 14"+ in 275 mode.
    Overbuilt is perfect for me but 14" BB is a no go. I was using the 13.5 that was off the website. Must have measured w/ 1.95's on it. LOL....

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    I mispoke and was thinking of the 147 conversion. 13.5" is more accurate.

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    I thought bikeco claims that the 147 conversion has a lower BB than a stock 130?

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    I have measured and it is not...

    Nothing against Bikeco, I just got my Pivot Mach 6 from them.

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    Odd, the picture they posted seemed pretty convincing, do you think that it wasn't an apples to apples comparison? What were the measurements that you took?


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    Third.

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    FWIW those bikes look to have different tires

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    My HD-R 650b is set up with a 150mm Pike, a great match for the 130mm rear end. Climbs awesome, bombs the downhills. 13.5" BB. Travel is between the SC 5010 and Bronson, mine climbs better than the 5010, descends better than the bronson.

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    I'd rather have a 145 rear HD with a 150 Pike with a 13.5BB. the high bb and only 130mm rear travel just doesn't do it for me, close, but not close enough. the HDR at 130 is not a bad bike and is pretty cool for not having to retool a whole new bike, just doesn't seem like an upgrade from my current HD. I think everyone who is screaming "bandaid bike" already has a HD and wants to upgrade to something. If I didn't have a HD already and really wanted a 650 bike I'd do the 130 HDR 650.

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    I'd be very interested too. The more I ride my HD the more I really like it. Especially after installing a -1 degree angleset. My other 2 bikes are not getting much attention lately. I would love to try/see a newly designed 150mm HDR 27.5 with 66.5 degree head angle and shortish stays and 13.5" BB that weighs around 6 lbs.

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    66 is too slack for most trails, and I doubt if you'll ever see an Ibis with such angles, not really in their design/style forte

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    Who is waiting for a "real" dedicated 650b Ibis ?

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    Waiting, like resistance, is futile when an awesome bike is ready to ride.
    This.

    I rode the sh!t out of my HD 160 and loved it. Now riding the crap out of my HDR 650b and loving it.

    I was wondering if I'd miss the bit of travel... Nope, don't miss it. This bike is Crazy Fun.
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    Stealth cable routing to add to the dedicated 650b HD list of wants.

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    Funnily enough I wasn't over-joyed with the HDR specs when it was first announced. Biggest gripe was probably the lack of Stealth routing!

    Still, sold my beloved SL-R and ordered a HDR 650b...I am chuffed beyond believe. It IS a "REAL" 650b
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    Quote Originally Posted by baltik View Post
    Odd, the picture they posted seemed pretty convincing, do you think that it wasn't an apples to apples comparison? What were the measurements that you took?


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    This is a lose/lose thread. The HDR will never satisfy everyone, like SP mentioned already many of the HD crowd see it as a fail since its basically what it is a "revised" HD. IMO it shouldnt be viewed negatively/picked apart b/c its not a whole new bike in fact I'd say the opposite an appreciate the fact that they tweaked/refined the HD (and can I say how much I love the fact that they have the retro-ft swing arm on the way!). IMO IBIS hould leave the HDR alone and examine the feasibility of developing a "Bigger" bike in the 150-160mm range 650b specific. If I was in the market for a "real" 27.5 bike the HDR would still be at the top of my list due to ride quality and versatility. As for the bike above, what is it trying to prove? Got more details on that? Both 27.5? Tires? The HD140 looks to have the lower BBH by about a 1/2", same as the 140/160 difference (My 27.5 HD 140 has about a 13.65" BB).

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    Who is waiting for a "real" dedicated 650b Ibis ?

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    66 is too slack for most trails, and I doubt if you'll ever see an Ibis with such angles, not really in their design/style forte
    You mean for your tastes right ? I've ridden my HD with the HA at 67 and 66 and prefer the 66 setting. On my Knolly I prefer the 67 HA. The Mach 6 has a 66 degree head angle as do a lot of other all mtn, enduro type bikes. The Enduro Evo is 65 degrees! To say that 66 degrees doesn't work for most trails is pretty bold if you're talking generally for most riders. It will be interesting to see what ibis ends up designing. One other thought is increasing the reach a little for a given size. Not Yeti SB style but 1/2 " or so.


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