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    I would like to see Ibis Mojo HD 650b compatible with gearbox transmission (e.g. Pinion) and carbon belt drive. I my opinion, this is how mountain bikes will look like in future.

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    An updated version of the old school Mountain Trials rig.
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    Quote Originally Posted by persing View Post
    I would like to see Ibis Mojo HD 650b compatible with gearbox transmission (e.g. Pinion) and carbon belt drive. I my opinion, this is how mountain bikes will look like in future.
    I'll second that. Not worried if it's belt or chain drive though.

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    crank1979@optusnet.com.au: I agree with you, the main goal for future bike design should be implementation of gearbox transmission. I think that around 1 kg weight penalty in combination with carbon fiber frame is acceptable.

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    Belt drive seems to be a big constraint.

    1- the available length is fixed.
    2- its over pricey
    3- using it amongst flying rocks .... it can be cut in the blink of an eye.
    (this happened to me on my motorbike)
    4- it needs a really serious protection.
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    Oh hells yes....

    Quote Originally Posted by KeithxCourage View Post
    An updated version of the old school Mountain Trials rig.
    Yes, PLEASE. I loved that thing. So fun.

    Carbon Mtn. Trials!
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    Klunker to compete with the new Transition

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    Carbon nanotube composite material could replace carbon fiber

    Ibis was an innovator with Carbon, which eventually replaced aluminum alloys in high end bicycle frames, so I'm just waiting until there's a new material out there to make frames that will allow for an exotic design like this one, which would theoretically allow for an HD frame that weighs less than a pound.

    "These materials could theoretically offer the same strength as carbon fiber at one-tenth the weight, or the same weight at ten times the strength."

    Carbon fiber allowed new types of shapes that would have been very difficult to cast from metal and until something new like this material becomes applicable, I'm not that interested in the minor changes and revamped models.

    So to answer the original question, I don't really care about the next four, as long as the fifth one uses something like this.

    Hans, would you mind commenting on whether this seems like a practical bike frame material that could be implemented by Ibis sometime in the near future?

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    Quote Originally Posted by michael1 View Post
    "These materials could theoretically offer the same strength as carbon fiber at one-tenth the weight, or the same weight at ten times the strength."
    And probably ten times the price ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ED young master View Post
    And probably ten times the price ?
    ED, don't ask for price !!!!

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    1/ 650b Mojo w/140 travel and the Ripley DW-link
    2/ DH
    3/ 29er HT, but not a chinese replica , A good job for Roxy
    4/ Ripley .... I know, I know
    5/ Hakkalügi w/disc, What ! It's available, OK so the Silk.

    6/ For my son, a 20" HT and after 24" (but you have the time)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ED young master View Post
    And probably ten times the price ?

    These are the last two paragraphs of the original publication; it seems promising.

    "In summary, we have shown MWNT/BMI composite sheets with a combination of record-high tensile strength and high stiffness, and excellent thermal and electrical conductivities, which has not been reported in any other engineering composites. These CNT composite sheets were synthesized by a novel technique, stretch-winding, that can incorporate high volume fraction of long CNTs into a polymer matrix while simultaneously aligning and straightening them. In addition, the stretch-winding process can directly make CNT composites or composite prepregs, bypassing the functionalization of CNTs or the slow and expensive step of CNT fiber production. This new approach has the potential to produce high-performance CNT composite in the industrial scale at low cost, paving the road to their practical structural applications, such as aerospace composite materials, unidirectional thermal interface materials and photovoltaics.
    Finally, it is noted that a critical factor for producing high-strength CNT composites is to synthesize high-quality CNT arrays that consist of long and strong individual CNTs and are conducive to pulling-out of continuous and uniform CNT ribbon. However, producing CNT arrays with consistent high-quality has been a challenge for almost all laboratories. This is an issue that needs to be overcome for commercial scale production."

    The link to the website where the original paper was wasn't working, but there's a link to it below the article on gizmag, which my prior post has a link to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kite85 View Post
    ED, don't ask for price !!!!
    Private joke ...

    Quote Originally Posted by kite85 View Post
    1/ DH
    2/ 650b Mojo w/140 travel and the Ripley DW-link
    3/ 29er HT, but not a chinese replica , A good job for Roxy
    4/ Ripley .... I know, I know
    5/ Hakkalügi w/disc, What ! It's available, OK so the Silk.

    6/ For my son, a 20" HT and after 24" (but you have the time)
    Totally with you !
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    Quote Originally Posted by michael1 View Post
    This new approach has the potential to produce high-performance CNT composite in the industrial scale at low cost
    Pray that this is the real truth !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by persing View Post
    I would like to see Ibis Mojo HD 650b compatible with gearbox transmission (e.g. Pinion) and carbon belt drive. I my opinion, this is how mountain bikes will look like in future.
    Yep, Pinion was going to be my vote. HD with Pinion. 650B would be cool, but I am ok with 26 if Pinion is brought out.

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    quivver-killer wishlist

    Had some time to think about this a bit more, & put together a wishlist for (my) ultimate Ibis quivver-killer, fitting squarely in the trail/enduro ripper segment:


    • --650B 140mm w/150 or 160mm shock mount option
    • --2xc eccentric platform (~Ripley)
    • --67deg head angle, 72-73deg seat angle w/150mm fork
    • --HD-level stiffness (ie: bias to stiffness vs weight)
    • --ample chainstay clearance for meaty 2.3 tires + mud!
    • --.25-.5" longer top tubes, when compared to SL-R & HD
    • --max 17.1" chainstays
    • --braaap-worthy BB height
    • --main triangle bottle cage mount (~Ripley)
    • --build spec option for XFusion, and definitely 34mm fork
    • --stealth and external dropper post cable routing
    • --bolt-on cable stops to allow full derailleur housing option
    • --cable runs through shock mount (~Ripley)
    • --bonus points for another Ibis signature hardware, like the HandJob (I'm a sucker for a bad pun... part of what makes an Ibis an Ibis, IMO)
    • --in-molded downtube and drive side chainstay (including inside of chainstay near cassette) frame protectors
    • --ample chainstay clearance for 1x11 drivetrain, up to 38t chainring (I'm guessing we'll see more of 1x11 in the future...)
    • --cool bolt-on widget to eliminate chainsuck once & for all (call it something like the Gobstopper or Muckraker...)
    • --replaceable dropouts for future-proofing, 12x142 standard


    I would buy one of these in a heartbeat.
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    I'd like a hard-nose 650b. (Rear suspension only, rigid front).

    I think it would be the only one around.

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    650b tranny
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    Internal routing including dropper posts
    nuclear pesto across the range (just love it)
    nano tube construction, because that would have clear cost to weight benefits (not at all serious)
    hardtail, but honestly i only care about the top 2. nano tubes would be nice.

    ps love that custom paint job if only you posted multiple large pics of it all over the site every time you posted...

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    Hans. You're a good man to read through this crazy stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huck Pitueee View Post
    Hans. You're a good man to read through this crazy stuff.
    I enjoy it!
    I feel like a lucky bike geek that gets to make stuff.

    H

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    Since I haven't really read any posts of what I want here it is:

    A FULLY adjustable trail bike: Limbo chips to change up the rear travel, replaceable drops to swap out wheel sizes ( 26 or 27.5), Angle set for the head tube, and adjustable BB height. I want to be able to custom tune my super light, super stiff carbon frame to work for ME and MY trails.

    I don't really care about 26, 650 or 29. Give me the FUNEST, fastest and most adjustable bike you can make, and I will buy it.

    Thanks for reading, and if you need someone to demo your protos I would be more than happy to oblige! :-)

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    Some cool ideas and suggestions on here. What I'd like to see is a true Ibis 650b trail / light AM / XC carbon HT rig. I'm not talking about an AM HT ripper. Talking about a:

    * HT
    * 69 HA with a 120mm fork
    * 12 x 142 rear
    * Enough tire clearance for 2.4
    * RS Stealth compatable
    * 1.5kg target frame weight for a Med
    * Can run 120-150mm fork without issues
    * Longer TT to safely run short stem and not have to upsize or risk running out of breathing space.
    + Plus some of the cosmetic suggestions giving by a lot of folk on here. Internal cable routing, cool color options (Lopes' Black with yellow or black with orange comes to mins as well as matte black with red)

    Last week I was out riding my carbon hardtail 650B bike and was thinking just how much fun it would be if it could cope with just a bit more abuse. Not strength wise (although obviously as well), but in geometry. I would LOVE a bike that is light enough to race (as a weekend warrior), but is trail tough. A carbon HT that can take some abuse and will make the coming back down just as much fun. Something in the vein of a Cotic, SC Jekyll or the likes. But in true Ibis carbon style.

    Then add a Mojo FR - Basically a HD that has 180mm travel front and rear with geo to match

    For the rest of the range?
    SL-R
    Slacker, longer with internal cables and stealth compatible
    Actual frame weight to match initial target weight

    HD
    Slacker, longer with internal cables and stealth compatible
    Monarch Plus as OE (Time to realize that the RP23 can only cope with so much)
    Out with white, in with something that better reflects it's personality (like the Vit-P does)

    Tranny
    Go 29er

    Ripley
    Go on sale

    Silk
    Ibisify the looks. Quite bland and boring compared to the rest of the range

    SL
    Drop in favor of dedicated SL-R 650B
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    Custom colours on all Mojo models! And 650b!

    Longer top tubes would be good but I am a freak!

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    Here's one dissenting vote from what appears to be a shrinking minority.....
    NO INTERNAL BRAKE / DERAILLEUR CABLES PLEASE!!

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