UCI World Championships on NBC Universal
Just an FYI for everyone. The CC races will be on tomorrow and DH will be Sunday. 1 hour for the women's at 11 AM PST and 2 hours for the men's at 3 PM PST both days in full HD!!
Awesome dude, 27hrs from now our time, got a few locals racing in the junior DH category, Louis Hamilton total pinned, great kid and seriously good rider, rides for Specialised NZ no bs shite full 26" DH bike coil front n rear, same with Lawrence Cawte rides for Zerode bikes. Designed by a local rad dude here in RotorVegas NZ, RMetz n Dodzy rip bro!
Kiwi Anton Cooper placed 4th in junior XC World Champs today, pretty hard buildup so pity not on top step but hey still amazing for us Kiwi's!
Ritchie Rude took out men's for US of A so u guys got to be stoked for that, he's a future star all written over him too!
Love World Champs always best race every year, u Kiwis. Boi's and Gurls!
pand some more 26" kick arse dominance, wouldn't it be funny if Jared Graves smashed it on a SB 66c that would make my day lol.
Picking Gee Man or Greg Minnaar and Peaty in top 5, wouldn't right of masa, Hill here either while not Champery or Schaldming Jared Graves had some interesting comments about how a heavier bike helped and how rough it was in parts and even in the pedal sections compared to other years carrying speed was not an issue.
Gawd even Hill in Wallabies colors would be awesome if he smashed it and Won yeah as long as some Kiwis make the podium, I'd love to see him win his 4th rainbow jersey!
Last edited by Maverick005; 08-31-2013 at 03:59 AM.
Super stoked for Rude, kid is killing it. We had a few Socal locals high up the ranks as well. Luca Commetti is a local from here in SD. I will also make another prediction that my buddies son Nick Nestoroff will be on the podium in the next few years. Awesome to see the kids out there killing it.
I am finding the bike choices really interesting this year. Graves is riding his SB66 and Steve Smith is riding a highly modified 275 with only 165mm of rear travel and 175mm of front travel that is made to look like a full DH rig. A few of the Specialized riders are on Enduro 29s! Kind of a bummer that the courses could be faster on these bikes, but maybe it will make a few people rethink their bike choices. So many riders I see around here are over biked.
Awesome dude good stuff agree great seeing young llcal talent killing it.
As for bike choice yes its interesting, dont agree though its not reflective it just shows what a shit track it really is, most are being pretty generous and towing the PC line.
Interesting coments on Dirt by a few females who said this is not a DH track its flat it sucks, really having to stiffen up the suspension on the DH bikes regardless wheel size, good to see though both female and mens juniors winning on real bikes this is DH.
Its not good for DH to have XC bikes, dropper posts, semi slicks singlecrowns etc even more so for an event like a World Champs, this is the pinnicle of that disipline, lest in EWS we found the best rider and that was consistent on 2 continents re results, 4 next year!
The guys and girls that wear the rainbow stripes do so earning them buy overcoming mental and physical challenges set by the disipline if thats compromised then they might as well hand out a gold medal to everyone,
its not good for South Africa or the sport, Sea Otter you can get away with it, its just a pre season lash up.
That said all the old hands havent changed much, its the young guys that have gone all gagga over wheel sizes, becuase the middle section has gotten into theyre heads, Tahnee Seagrave couldnt work out why her race run (she won remember) was slower than her seeded run, Sick Mick had the answer, so did Tahnee she just didnt realise it when she answered the question.
Because of the bigger jumps and more features in the flat section it is not really making as much difference in time between the riders like the years Gwin won! But what it is doing if you go flat out hard theyre according to Mick Is it robs your energy for the harder more technical lower section, effectively losing gas, he found he had faster runs when he didn't pedal fully over committed so prob 99% instead of 110% at the middle section and then hammered the last section he made up more time for a faster overall run.
Thats what happened to Tahnee in her race run compared to her seeded run, in the race she pedalled so hard in the middle she lost more time overall in the last section because she lost her gas in that middle section, compared to her faster seeding run yet felt she rode faster, feeling fast often dosent mean fast, smooth controlled does often lead to better times especially on a track like this. Plus you need to finish strong on a track like this.
So that will be interesting to see, Im picking the older experience of Gee Man, Greg Minaar even Peaty to haul through, Sik mik if he can stay on his bike is a dark horse often fastest here but crashes under pressure of his race run, World Champs is all about pressure not whos fastest but who can combine both. Stevie Smith is on it right now, but not sure come tommorrow the pressure will get to him, under pressure confidence comes from mental and mental comes from knowing your equipment said it before with Jerome you dont mess or break whats not broken.
Sam Hill apparently broke the 100kph barrier into the gully section on a full scrub sideways to keep the bike low, hes hauling too he could smash it here!
Also with World Champs theyre is no points for seeding or qualifying so start gate is critical last rider down is always under most pressure and rarey win, not saying it cant be done but World Champs history is not kind to the last rider down.
So alot of sand bagging going on in those timed results, weather can play a part too and what people often dont realise is the track will get ripped apart so earlier runs get a huge advantage, another big disadvantage for last man down is time, time you have had to wait since your last practice run, it plays on you, your body clock slows down, its late in the day and the track conditions have changed so much your lines are smashed and then you have to be inventive on the fly and while youre waiting for that run, all this shit is going though your mind and wondering 27.5 did I make the right choice umm let the battle begin, I hope theyres blood lots of it and a wheely big bonfire afterwards!
Just not good direction for DH, for all other disiplines run what you brung but DH it needs tighter regulations, its not progressive it will regress tracks and riders will go back to being big power brutes, you only have to look in recent times lots of flat pedal die hards swapping to clips, Sam Hill the exception and he still slays most of those guys still.
Im a DH purest, Ill never accept bigger wheels in DH, never haha.
The funny thing about that is it would probaly suit me better since my broken body cant handle the riggors of DH so well any more it gets tougher each year if I dont maintain a certain fitness level, out DH track here is WC level no in betweens so its full on every run, its fun but eveyrone gets bitten here sooner or later no matter how good you are, its that type of track, so 27.5 probably wold make it a bit easier for my slowing reactions and lack of DH flexibility training. I know it wont make me faster, I could go allot faster now, my body has had too many injuries and thats what slows me down in DH not the bike, but it might be safer.
I still hate the idea, its like being put into an old persons home or something migrating onto bigger wheels for me, resistance is probably futile, but Ill go down fighting
All sports are being killed off by greed and so called advancements, drugs and legacy of the histories just disgraced. Thinking NFL, esp Baseball etc, To me thats as big a part of sport and the technology and future which I love but it has to be balanced to reflect eras comparisons will always be made but its almost incomparable due to damage sports have inflected upon themselves in this last decade or two, just don't want to see MTB sell its soul which it seems so hell bent on doing!
I would agree that this should not even be a stop on the WC circuit, let alone a World Championship DH course.
Haha wish I could have fitted my post into that length sentence haha
Originally Posted by Salespunk
Nice we report here and some good oil about the track from defending masters WC from 2012, came 2nd this time round.
Boom 26" 1 Ring to rule them all!!
Again when the new so called wonder drug should have dominated and had its glory all it proved the marketing BS has again been embarrassed in battle, 26" has risen above all challenges thrown at them by the industry and showed its not here to poke spiders!
GREG MINNAR you legend and true champion, repeat at home!!!!!
congrats A Champions champion that was amazing!
If ever a tack was going to prove wheel size debate this was it and boom FAILED..
Stoked as this hopefully will out the 26" naysayers that it is dead to bed!
26" 1, 2, 3
Feel a little for Sik Mik probably his last chance to win a World Champs, but GM was destined to bring the gold home here, Mandela painted on his helmet just cannot defeat that.
Jared Graves just as amazing SB66c 26" 3rd and first DH race all year fricken unbelievable and it should not have been possible against the 650b.
Smith sorry but Im not surprised, he broke the first rule of racing don't mess with what you know in the face of the most pressure you will come under all year. first corner he lost it sad really picked him to win this ad still believe on the Wilson he would ave been somewhere on that podium.
Said it all year, experience cannot be beaten when you are in the trenches!
I try to teach this all the time to riders, when ya cant do ya teach huh.
Congrats Syndicate, GM amazing team, vision and foresight and to repeal such industry pressure and still get results just incredible.
V10c must also be one of the greatest DH bikes ever the evolution of it to remain at the top such a Ferrari of DH bikes.
The first corner took out a LOT of big names. Ropelato and Smith were just two of them. Something was definitely lurking under the dust! Hill's crash looked brutal. Almost exactly how I shattered my collarbone. He definitely looked dazed. Mik lost it in the last pedaling section. I felt really bad for him, but it was great to see Greg win in his home country. Overall great race.
Nothing lurking bro, just what happens come race day to a dry track, those riding what they new had no such issues, situations like that its a memory wired response, bigger wheels not proper DH tires the pressure of World Champs, theyre is no what inin racing you cant hide, you either do or do not, they gambled with the hype and it backfired plain and simple brotha, am I happy hell yeah!
Originally Posted by Salespunk
Because its a win for racing and for mtb and a loss for the media and the industry telling us what they want instead of listening to us, I personally don't give a F about wheel size but as soon as people talked about the death of 26" I was anti the media and industry ramming it down my throat. I"ll decide what I ride thank you!
Yeah Sam just seemed to have brain fade aye, Mik I think spent himself in that middle section and GM had a little left, but you you see the pain in that last section the crowd no doubt carrying him through, Gee was a surprise almost looked like he thought he was on a cruise ship and just didn't t seem to be giving it all from the start gate to the end, no doubt some excuse mechanical cant say its physical unless sick he's as fit as anyone.
Rachel just in another galaxy right now and even she seemed to make it look easy until the split I thought she looked slow haha, smooth is fast!
Fricken Jared what a freak haha, Yeti going to be selling allot more SB 66s now I bet monday they were flooded with orders haha
With this guy on your helmet, destiny for a Sarfie!
So how long until Graves is picked up by a bigger manufacturer? I have to think he and JC are going to be the biggest pickups during the off season. I suspect there are already some big offers on the table...
Probably been offered, but I doubt either will move anywhere!
Originally Posted by Salespunk
One why would you, esp Jerome, he is probably already the best supported and paid rider on the circuit, is it the best bike, its certainly one of the best packages I believe Jerome has tuned and setup on the planet. No reason for him to move is my bet.
Jared, he's been with Yeti since the beginning he's a big part of their program, I think also Yeti"s philosophy on not having big stars or competing with big budgets suits Jared, he gets support and while Im sure he may not get the bigger pay checks like Fabian and Jerome he will be well looked after otherwise he would have moved long ago, also he has allot of freedom to make his own choices with Yeti and I know he likes that, lastly they're frames have always been one of the top bike,frames in any category for sheer performance, so my bet he ain't going nowhere ever!
I probably bet my house on those too, where as the rest of the field no ideas, maybe Fabian and Nico will be pretty solid with they're sponsors, Nicos a bit like Jared and Jerome, he's key to the development of the bikes and his other sponsors, Fab too, thats my opinion anyways.
Good topic for discussion though SP
Heres one for you
AC to stay on Ibis given.
But what about the mens, its clear Brian Lopes has wound down, it would be great to get a Martin Maes and a top 10 rider other than the above as they wont move and Ibis wouldn't go that far to secure them I believe but that would be sic!
And please Ibis ride the HDR all season, ok for 9ers to be tested at lower end of rider spectrum hence test riders, but to win it you need the formula Jerome and Jared showed through out the season, you only get stronger on your equipment by getting to know it in in battle over and over.
I don't think AC is going anywhere. Judging by Lopes house/garage he is being taken care of VERY well by Ibis and I am sure AC is in the same range. Would love to see Maes on an Ibis since i think he will be dominating in the next two years.
I agree on Clementz probably not going anywhere, but I can see Graves making a move. Yeti has a long history of incubating riders, but not stepping up as the riders see more success (Tomac, Furtado, Giove, etc). Yes, I know I am old! Have been riding since '88 just like you and was a BMX grom before that! Do you think Graves will be on Yeti two years from now? Both Specialized and Trek need an Enduro star long term. Santa Cruz is going to need to someone to replace CG in the next few years and Ibis will need another big name like Lopes. I honestly think he could be a great fit at Ibis as well. His personality fits really well with the Brand.
Yeah agree, but re Jared just don't see what you see, hes their guy just think he has a special realtionship theyre at Yeti and I dont see that changing, hes well looked after otherwise hed def have gone years ago, I think the thing is while many are always after more, Jared is one of those rare breeds that knows who he is what he wants and more importantly what makes him happy, I could be wrong, hope not, he and Yeti are like carrots and peas they just work together.
It would be weird if he sold out at this stage of his career like so many do, if the relationship went sour which is always a possibility in any relationship then maybe but I think he"s got good bonds with the Aussie end and US end, just cant see it, maybe you have info I don't, but he would be the last person Id pick to move, but I could be wrong.
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