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    Tune for Monarch Plus RC3 on Mojo HD and review

    Hi,

    I am thinking of buying the 2014 Monarch Plus RC3 for my Mojo HD.
    Does anyone has experience or review of this shock?

    Also, does anyone know what tune I should get and whether the HV or Standard Volume can?

    thanks

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    The monarch plus is plush. I haven't ridden it on an HD, only on a niner WFO.

    There is some info on that shock with an HD here: http://www.ibiscycles.com/downloads/...5_05_Mojos.pdf

    Just search the pdf for monarch, they have the tune and info there.

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    I have a Monarch Plus on my HD M/M tune, best air shock I have tried (rp23, ccdb-air, monarch rt3) plush as hell, hard to overheat, & no compression spikes. I weigh @180 and ride everything from rough/rocky to steep & flowy. This is all with the HV can & about 6 volume spacers. @33% sag

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripes View Post
    I rode the Monarch Plus on a Ventana Ciclon, and I will be getting one for my Mojo HD.

    I had a midtune for the Ventana, plan on getting a low tune for the Mojo HD. Great shock, especially if it doesn't burn out like the one I had a couple of years ago. I was constantly sending that thing in for warranty. Maybe I got a dud. But when it worked, it was awesome. Did hear good things about the recent ones of it.

    My Mojo HD is a small, so two shocks fit it: the Fox CTD and the Monarch Plus. Wish a coil or the X-fusion non-piggyback fits

    Push doesn't rebuild them anymore, but SRAM was really good with warranty for it. I plan on keeping my CTD as a backup shock, but that's all it's good for.
    My buddy just got his Monarch Plus tuned by Push last week. Not sure if they are doing them again for everyone or if it was a one off for him.

    I have run both stock and now Pushed tunes. M/L is the recommendation from Ibis and I also run about 33% sag. Going from Fox to this is like riding a new bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripes View Post
    That blows. They told me they're not tuning Monarch Plus's anymore, and that was two weeks ago. I wish they'd make up their mind.
    Maybe Salespunks friend had a Monarch plus that had been pushed before they stpped working on monarchs? I know with my pushed monarch plus I was told Push will continue to service or retune my shock for me. So if you had a previously pushed shock they would continue to service and retune it.

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    I've been on a Monarch plus for 2 years now. After a year, I had mine Push'd. No issues whatsoever. I replace the aircan seals every 60 hours of riding or so. Mine is an M/L tune with High volume can as recommended by Push for the HD. I also have a Fox DHX 5.0 that I run for more gnarly outings. I am completely stoked on the Monarch plus. Super plush, and performance doesn't fade, even on longer gravity runs like Whole Enchilada, etc. I am curious about the new ones, but not enough to make me want to part with my current setup..
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    I'd say get a Monarch+ RC3 for 140mm and a nice coiler for 160mm.

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    I run the Monarch Plus RC3 with the low compression, medium rebound high volume can like the guys at Ibis recommend. I like it a lot, though I did have to shim the air can a good bit to keep it from bottoming out on moderate to heavy hits. Shimming the air can was easy with a few laps of electrical tape. I started with a little and kept adding until I got to a place where it was still sensitive without bottoming out. I'm about 190-195 with a full bag of water and gear on board, I run the shock at about 155-160 psi. That gives me the recommended 30% sag which I also recommend personally. Less sag than that seems to hinder the performance of the bike more than make it any more efficient. If I could I would move to a Cane Creek Double Barrel Air but I don't seem to have $500.00 lying around so I muddle through* with my Monarch.

    *That bit about muddling through was sarcasm just to be clear. Punch me in the nuts if I complain about ridding a bike that costs 5+ kilo bucks.

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    Thanks guys ! You have all been really helpful..time to get my monarch plus. Does it need any special mounting hardware ?

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    I got a Push'd Monarch Plus for my HD just before they stopped offering them...been super happy running it without issue ever since. Push recommended the Standard Can for me, not as a function of the bike, but because of my weight. I'm 230 lbs. Apparently once you cross a certain weight threshold, a HV can is no longer ideal.

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    Anyone know where to find the 2014 in the low compression tune flavor? I'm only seeing and high tunes.

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    I have checked with rs distributors and they say 2014 don't come in low comp... only mid/mid.
    Ibis recommended low comp only. ..that's why I am holding off till there are solutions.

    Stripes , can rs tune the shock ? How much will it cost ?

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    The Bikeco Roco is really a fantastic alternative to the PUSH'd monarch plus. I've owned both and much prefer the Bikeco shock. Also the new stickers make it look really badass and totally custom. But yea, performance (for me) for bikeco > push Monarch Plus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanarius View Post
    I have checked with rs distributors and they say 2014 don't come in low comp... only mid/mid.
    Ibis recommended low comp only. ..that's why I am holding off till there are solutions.

    Stripes , can rs tune the shock ? How much will it cost ?
    Can't comment on the cost of a RS tune, but I do know that Suspension Experts can perform the re-tune to make it M/L. I've been in touch with them lately, and their price for a new Monarch Plus with the custom tune is comparable to the cost of a stock Monarch Plus bought elsewhere.
    I'm always looking for new people to ride with. If you are on the Front Range, shoot me a PM and let's go ridin'.

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    I have a Pushed Monarch RT that I am looking to sell if anyone is interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dacarbon View Post
    The Bikeco Roco is really a fantastic alternative to the PUSH'd monarch plus. I've owned both and much prefer the Bikeco shock. Also the new stickers make it look really badass and totally custom. But yea, performance (for me) for bikeco > push Monarch Plus.
    I second this. The Rocco is awesome. Rips the fox apart

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    Hey there fello Mojo HDers, I run the 2014 Monarch Plus on my HD. They only tune available right now is the medium/medium but dont worry I have had amazing results with just a little tuning. The 2014 has all new shim stack valving and even a new main piston design compared to any of the older rc3's. I am 164lbs Cat1 or Expert classes, ride as fast and hard as my lungs will allow me . I have been testing some different valve setups and really have found that just removing one shim from the valve stack and lowering the ifp pressure has made it pretty darn lovely. Try not to get to caught up on the stock tune valves rockshox sells, with a little work and testing you can make a custom setup for yourself If anyone has any questions or need anything let me know

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    Nice feedback!

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    I have had some more time on my 14 Monarch + and anyone with a med/med tune that wants more of a low compression tune, just pull 1 22x.15 shim from the main compression stack and thats it you will be amazed

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    Thanks KXmoto502,
    This is something I would like to try. What ifp pressure did you go with and what was original pressure? Can you compare the 2012 monarch plus to the 2014 version, is there a noticeable difference?

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    I think the stock IFP is a little to high, they state its 250 but when I got the shock new out of the box it was only 205. I run mine at 215 right now. It really doesnt effect bottoming performance as you would think. The volume of the air canister has a much greater effect. I cant say on the 2012, but I have used the stock 13 fox float and 13 x fusion vector air. Let me know if you have any questions with the valving procedure

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    Quote Originally Posted by kxmoto502 View Post
    I have had some more time on my 14 Monarch + and anyone with a med/med tune that wants more of a low compression tune, just pull 1 22x.15 shim from the main compression stack and thats it you will be amazed
    I've just got a MM tune 2014 RC3 on my ghost and the rebound seems a bit too slow fully open. how do you adjust this?

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    Ill send you a picture of the main piston shim stack for the rebound side and we can try to see what we can alter to make it a little more compliant

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    Shim stack

    Tune for Monarch Plus RC3 on Mojo HD and review-photo-1-.jpg

    This is the valve stack for the main piston. Left side is the compression stack and right is the rebound. I would only remove one of the 18mm shims you see on the right. There are 3 of them on the 14 monarch +. Try that and see what happens and adjust from there

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    cheers for that - I'll have a go once I've had a chance to test the bike off road properly.

    The tune states for the shock does L mean it has less damping applied so a L is faster than an M on rebound or is it the other way around (stupid question I know but could find an answer online)

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    Yes a L is faster and M is slower

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    Would like to ask how do i know which is rebound and ehich is compression. Planning to get a debonair rc3 for my hd. Anyone tried the debonair? And is M/L hi volume the recommended tune by ibis?

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    Monarch Plus RC3 2015 HM tune stack shims

    I hope it'll be usefull
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    Quote Originally Posted by LGavin View Post
    Would like to ask how do i know which is rebound and ehich is compression. Planning to get a debonair rc3 for my hd. Anyone tried the debonair? And is M/L hi volume the recommended tune by ibis?
    Yes, M/L is the recommended tune, with the M representing rebound. That said, I recently picked up an rc3 plus debonair M/M for my HD. Huuuge upgrade over my Avy tuned DHX air. IMO, if you can get a M/L tune, great, but don't sweat it if you can only find a M/M. If the initial stroke feels harsh, you can always add tuning bands and reduce your air pressure.
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