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    Shorten the HD? No Way!

    I'm 6' on a large HD. I wouldn't want the wheel base shortened, or the back end shortened at all. As a tall rider I feel too perched on top of short wheel base bike resultig in a less then confident decending/attach position. I don't know how many of you ride with a 50mm stem. Too low and twitchy for me. More top tube please!

    I vote for rear triangle upgrade that would allow for 180mm of travel. This would correctly match out a 180 fork, allow for big rubber, and be a bit more freeride plush. Lets give the long travel end of the spectrum some love please!

    During my trip to Mammoth a few weeks ago I ended up taking my rental DH bike down Juniper, which is a fast flowy twisty DH single track. I rode my HD down it a day earlier. I was dismayed by the fact that the DH bike outshown the HD on this kind of trail, which the HD should have owned. Not saying I liked the pedaling of flat areas, or the up hill better, just the fun stuff.

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    What size and what make/model was the DH bike?

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    Large Rocky Mountain Flatline. Lower end fork and shock.

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    I'm also 6ft plus, and have a large.

    Wheelbase makes as big if not more of an impact on how big a bike feels. A 1/2 deg in headangle will make the bike significantly longer.
    Wider bars are the key to short stem. A 770mm wide bar with a 50mm stem is the ticket.
    Add up all three and your HD will outride a Flatline.

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    I'm running Easton Havoc bars (780?) and brought both my 50 and 60mm stems to play with. I also have a 180 Talas up front. The 60mm stem played better up there. I used an angle set for a while, but when I got the 180 fork I swapped it for a regular one.

    Maybe I'll consider using it again, but will need to get the 1/2 degree cup for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scepticshock View Post
    I'm running Easton Havoc bars (780?) and brought both my 50 and 60mm stems to play with. I also have a 180 Talas up front. The 60mm stem played better up there. I used an angle set for a while, but when I got the 180 fork I swapped it for a regular one.

    Maybe I'll consider using it again, but will need to get the 1/2 degree cup for it.
    Did you try an XL frame?

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    Ibwish they would make the front triangle longer, not the swingarm, give the bike a lil more reach and longer wheelbase. 10mm longer would be perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbikerguy View Post
    Did you try an XL frame?
    I never got a proper demo of the HD since I ordered it before it hit the stores. I ended up changing the order to a large. I test rode the Large and XL Mojo, but on fairly XC terrain. The large won that test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scepticshock View Post
    I never got a proper demo of the HD since I ordered it before it hit the stores. I ended up changing the order to a large. I test rode the Large and XL Mojo, but on fairly XC terrain. The large won that test.
    We are about the size height, what did you like about the large?
    I went with the XL and now I'm wondering about the large.

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    I would have loved to demo the XL HD, but missed the Ibis demo truck. I demoed an XL Mojo, and thought it fit ok, but then rode a Large and felt it was more playful and handled the tighter turns better. But I do need to run a lot more seat post, and more spacers under the bar. I have long legs which put me in between sizes. Maybe the XL was the way to go, and I would have adapted my cornering to the larger frame? Maybe a drop larger large would be perfect.

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