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    Planned Ripley Builds...What's yours?

    Like so many others I'm getting pretty fired up with the Ripley getting close. I have most parts on order or pulling from my old Racer-x 29. Intent is for the bike to be a "do-it-all" XC/Trail rig. I'm going for a fairly lightweight build that should be perfect for the handful of endurance races I do a year here in CO. I've had a good time figuring out how I'm going to build it up. Curious how others plan to build up their Ripley.

    My Build...
    SID RCT3 120mm 15TA Fork
    XX1 Build (156 q-factor)
    Cane Creek 110 HS
    DT240s/DT Revs/Light-bicycle.com carbon hoops
    Formula R1s
    Crank Bros EB 11s
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    WTB RocketV SLT saddle

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    Fox 34 spaced down to 130 or 32 at 120
    Xt/SLX 2x10 drivetrain
    Hope stealth race evo x2's
    syntace MX 30 hoops
    cane creek 40 HS
    shortish stem depending on geo
    Thomson flat bar at 730 or maybe a vector
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    dampf front ralph rear
    shimano pedals
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    Can't wait

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    Quote Originally Posted by velez3000 View Post
    Can't wait
    Pretty funny. I couldn't wait either. I think the Spider Comp has spanked this thing into revision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hrdude View Post
    Pretty funny. I couldn't wait either. I think the Spider Comp has spanked this thing into revision.
    Nice joke!

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    My planned build for technical trails and a few marathons. Want to keep it light and relatively sturdy for my 170 lbs.

    XL frame with RP23 Kashima
    Fox Float 34 @ 130 or 140mm (or possibly X-Fusion Trace RL2/RS Revelation RCT3)
    2x10 X0 derailleurs with Grip Shift and ESI Chunky grips
    Middleburn RS8 X-type cranks (for the option of 22/30)
    Syntace MX35 wheels with Ardent 2,4" for trail/Crossmark 2,1" for lighter duties
    Syntace Vector High5 740mm 5mm rise/12deg sweep bar + Megaforce 2 stem
    RS Reverb with Spec Henge SL saddle
    Shimano XTR Trail brakes on light discs
    Pedals - yes

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    Replacing a very light Specialized S-Works Epic, looking to keep all of the advantages of that bike and get back the travel and suspension feel of my old Turner 5-Spot...

    Frame: Ibis Ripley (large?) w/ Fox Float iCD shock

    Fork: Fox 32 Float 29 - 120 FIT iCD

    Drivetrain: SRAM XX1 (28) w/ Trigger? GripShift?

    Brakes: Shimano XTR BR-988 Trail (ISO 180/160)

    Bar: Enve Riser

    Stem: Enve, size TBD

    Seatpost: Enve, offset TBD

    Seat Clamp: DKG Flip Lock (black)

    Saddle: WTB Volt Team

    Pedals: Look S-Track Carbon Ti

    Wheels: Enve twenty9 XC w/ Kappius hubs (32 hole, full ceramic option, 15/100 TA front, 12/142 TA rear, SRAM XX1), DT Swiss aerolite spokes (black)

    Tires: Schwalbe Racing Ralph 2.25 TL-Ready, Snakeskin

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSH View Post
    I'm getting pretty fired up with the Ripley getting close.
    What makes you think it's getting close? 2012 was missed, 2013 could be too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowdrifter View Post
    What makes you think it's getting close? 2012 was missed, 2013 could be too.
    Staying positive and optimistic!
    But mainly Hans comments in the main Ripley thread that they are on target for 1st qtr release. I'm not that concerned about it. If it doesn't happen by April or May all the parts I'm acquiring will work just fine on a Pivot 429C

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    The SID is going to be a noodle. You really should rethink that fork choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anomaly View Post
    The SID is going to be a noodle. You really should rethink that fork choice.
    Thanks for the suggestion. I'm a 44 yr old XC weenie that keeps both wheels on the ground any more. My super hard charging days are behind me, so I'll take my chances with the SID. I'm keeping my build on the endurance race/xc side of the fence so that's the reason/rationale for the SID.

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    This thread is the Ibis geeks equivalent of the " If you had a team of cheer leaders in bed what would you....." discussion. Either one will lead to wet dreams. Maybe "Ripley" could really be the "Slippery"

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    Has anyone seen any updated geo numbers? I am hoping to find a trail bike to replace my Sultan. I would like a 68 degree HA with a 140mm fork and short chainstays. May end up getting a carbon SB95 if the geo is too XC on the ripley.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpenglow View Post
    Has anyone seen any updated geo numbers? I am hoping to find a trail bike to replace my Sultan. I would like a 68 degree HA with a 140mm fork and short chainstays. May end up getting a carbon SB95 if the geo is too XC on the ripley.
    Someone else may have more updated info, but I think the chainstay length is pretty much set 17.5" As far as HTA the only info I have is the older info which was HTA of 71 with 120mm fork and 69.5 with a 140. I would think they may go a bit more slack on the final production versions but who knows. I know they have been fairly tight lipped about any more details (even with dealers as I have tried that route to ) until they are ready to release and ship. From the website...

    "Our next announcement about the Ripley 29 will be when it is ready to ship. We'll release all the final details then: pricing, sizing, colors, geometry, components, etc"

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSH View Post
    Staying positive and optimistic!
    But mainly Hans comments in the main Ripley thread that they are on target for 1st qtr release. I'm not that concerned about it. If it doesn't happen by April or May all the parts I'm acquiring will work just fine on a Pivot 429C
    Hans hasn't been more specific than this as far as I know?

    "We are on track for launch and shipment for the 2013 season."

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    Quote Originally Posted by pastajet View Post
    Hans hasn't been more specific than this as far as I know?

    "We are on track for launch and shipment for the 2013 season."
    I believe that was his comment in response to simenf post (#82 &#83 posts in the thread). A little further down on post #91 I posed the following question....

    1st qtr-ish 2013 or later? Wes @ Competitive Cyclist is telling me the release has been pushed back to Summer when I just called now

    Hans response next post....
    I think they are probably trying to "under promise and over deliver".
    Any Updates on the Ripley?

    So you are right not specific, but I'm taking that response as we can expect it before Summer at least. I hope anyway!

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    Quote Originally Posted by anomaly View Post
    The SID is going to be a noodle. You really should rethink that fork choice.
    in 2011 or 2012, the sid and reba started using the same chassis. While it won't be as stiff as the forks people run on an hd, it's almost identical to the reba now.

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    Weight weenie

    I really don't think this is a weght weenie bike, have you seriously looked at the weight of the 120mm minimum fork you will have on this bike. Your gonna add a half pound there and really this bike is designed for wheels that will weigh 200 grams more than weight weenie wheels. And the frame is gonna weigh more than a weightweenie frame. If you are a weight weenie go with a 100 mm race bike and save yourself two pounds. That being said my advice is to get the ripley and give up your weight weenie ways. Thro some havens or equivalent on it and I bet you will average faster speeds anyway and have a lot more fun. This bike will weigh 4 pounds more than a weight weenie hard tail and two pounds more that a weight weenie full,susension. Last few years I have been a real weight weenie, I have seen the light. Performamce and rigidity first, weight secomd , price third and you will have an awesome fast bike. Cut sugar and gluten out of your diet and you will lose 5 pounds in a month. Problem solved
    Quote Originally Posted by MSH View Post
    Thanks for the suggestion. I'm a 44 yr old XC weenie that keeps both wheels on the ground any more. My super hard charging days are behind me, so I'll take my chances with the SID. I'm keeping my build on the endurance race/xc side of the fence so that's the reason/rationale for the SID.

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    Quote Originally Posted by durtsurf View Post
    I really don't think this is a weght weenie bike, have you seriously looked at the weight of the 120mm minimum fork you will have on this bike. Your gonna add a half pound there and really this bike is designed for wheels that will weigh 200 grams more than weight weenie wheels. And the frame is gonna weigh more than a weightweenie frame. If you are a weight weenie go with a 100 mm race bike and save yourself two pounds. That being said my advice is to get the ripley and give up your weight weenie ways. Thro some havens or equivalent on it and I bet you will average faster speeds anyway and have a lot more fun. This bike will weigh 4 pounds more than a weight weenie hard tail and two pounds more that a weight weenie full,susension. Last few years I have been a real weight weenie, I have seen the light. Performamce and rigidity first, weight secomd , price third and you will have an awesome fast bike. Cut sugar and gluten out of your diet and you will lose 5 pounds in a month. Problem solved
    Thanks for the advice! I already have all parts in hand so the build is already set.
    I think you are going to see a fair amount of light weight racing builds with this bike, as well as, more trail/AM builds.
    Ibis is after all marketing this bike as a "do it all" bike.
    Scot Nicol's comments when the Ripley was originally announced in 2011 at Eurobike. From twentynineinches.com article...
    "Scott believes the 120 mm DW-link rear (that was designed and engineered with the help of Dave Weagle) to be efficient enough for XC riding and racing while satisfying endurance racers and “… well basically everyone”."

    Evan Plews has been racing it in endurance events. Winning the PH100 last year on the Ripley and this year's El Paso Puzzler--> Evan Plews Wins the El Paso Puzzler | News | Info | Ibis Cycles US

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    Weight weenie

    Evan Plews is not a weight weenie but he is an xc racer, the two are not mutual. His wheel set weighs 10 grams more than easton havens.
    Really weight weenie beliefs are being proven wrong, I think real xc pros are leaving ti pedals, narrow bars, light wheels, light cassettes, light forks, etc for the people who don't get it. I am a converted weight weenie and I am going faster. You still pay attention to weight but performance first. That is what is gonna win xc races.

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    Quote Originally Posted by durtsurf View Post
    Evan Plews is not a weight weenie but he is an xc racer, the two are not mutual. His wheel set weighs 10 grams more than easton havens.
    Really weight weenie beliefs are being proven wrong, I think real xc pros are leaving ti pedals, narrow bars, light wheels, light cassettes, light forks, etc for the people who don't get it. I am a converted weight weenie and I am going faster. You still pay attention to weight but performance first. That is what is gonna win xc races.
    Good to hear the weight weenie conversion worked out for you.

    Weight weenie or not Evan estimates his build at 23 lbs and states at the end of this video, after his PH100 victory, "the frame is going to get a lot lighter". If the frame getting a lot lighter statement is true that's a sub 23lbs bike....pretty darn light! Certainly lighter than mine will end up. Ibis Ripley Pro Bike (Evan Plews) | 2012 Pierre's Hole 100 NUE #8 | CyclingDirt

    If you are shooting for more of a XC/Endurance race build I think the key is a "sensible" light weight build..not crazy light. Crazy light (to me anyway) is build kits with Tune, Extralite, KCNC parts, Selle SLR saddles for example. I'm going light where I can but certainly not crazy light. My wheels are heavier than both the Black Flag Pro SL or Havens at 1600g+, I'll be running Schwalbe/Maxxis sidewall protection tires, WTB Rocket V saddle, etc

    Anyways, different strokes. I think you build it as you see fit and what works for you. I'm sure everyone that gets one is going to be loving it no matter how they build it up.

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    I'm going with a Sram XX9 drivetrain.
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    What are you folks assuming for the headset? 49EC lower and ZS44 upper like the SL-R? The Ripley description says Angleset and InSet compatible, but that doesn't necessarily mean 49EC/ZS44.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InertiaMan View Post
    What are you folks assuming for the headset? 49EC lower and ZS44 upper like the SL-R? The Ripley description says Angleset and InSet compatible, but that doesn't necessarily mean 49EC/ZS44.
    I went with a Cane Creek 110 ZS44 upper, EC49/40 Lower based on my conversation with Ibis.

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    Planned Ripley Builds...What's yours?

    Can't really see the need to stock up on parts before the build kits are known at the launch. Head sets are not gonna be sold out any time soon.


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    Planned Ripley Builds...What's yours?

    Ibis recommends a 51mm fork offset. Which forks with that offset are available?


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    We'll make a list of forks soon, but Fox has them, as does Rock Shox and X-Fusion. The longer offset is becoming common.

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    What actually is offset? And can we run a non 'offset'?

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    Can anyone address whether or not a Lefty can meet the 51mm offset? I've searched, and come up empty.

    I'm betting it can be done through the bracket, but I have only had one espresso this morning so far.

    Having said that, xx1, Lefty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockinrod42 View Post
    What actually is offset? And can we run a non 'offset'?
    Same as Fork Rake. You can run shorter rake forks, but they handling will be best with the 51 mm rake. There are forks from Fox, X-Fusion and RockShox and they are becoming mainstream.

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    Just daydreaming at this point, but I'll play anyway.
    I am 6'1", after some serious number crunching, I realized the XL Ripley is right for me, it gives a very close size match to the Niner Jet 9 RDO in L with a 120 fork, and I like that fit.

    Ripley XL
    Manitou Tower Pro 120
    I-9 wheels, Crest Rims
    Syntace F-109 stem, prolly a 100mm
    Niner RDO flat bars
    Easton EC-90 zero post
    Rotor Agilis crank with 25-38 Q-rings, Rotor BB Cups, have the crank
    XTR derailleurs and shifters, Shadow Plus
    SRAM XG-1080 cassette
    SRAM 1091 chain
    Hope Mono Mini brakes, they always work

    Clearly this is an XC build, not for free dogging! I ride lots of XC singletrack and high altitude, lots of climbing, so weight is important.

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    Large Ripley - black/green
    Fox 34 140 (I might space it down to a 130...)
    SRAM XX1 32 front
    XTR Trail brakes 180/160 ice rotors
    ENVE AM dt swiss 240 wheels
    ENVE stem 90
    ENVE sweep bar
    Lev dropper post (internal cable, no F.Der)
    Schwalbe Hans tires (I would run a "chuck" if they made one)
    Fizik aliante saddle

    Should be a pretty light fun bike.

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    Large Blue Ripley
    Fox 32 120mm
    Full X7 Drivetrain
    Alex XD Pro/Dt Swiss 240
    Elixir 3 Brakes
    Easton Havoc Stem/Bar

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    Just ordered a large in matte/green with matching Fox G2 120. I'll transfer as many part as possible from my Tallboy carbon. At 5'9" is was a tough choice between the medium and large. Hopefully I made the right choice.

    Ibis Ripley matte/green
    Fox G2 120mm
    80mm stem
    Enve XC with 240's
    XTR 2x10 group set
    Nobby Nic's front and RR's in the rear

    I might switch the XX1's from my Highball to the Ripley, not sure yet.

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    Hans - looking forward to your list.

    Question: does the 51mm offset recommendation apply to both the 120mm and 140mm travel lengths?

    Thanks.

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    Now that I know that the Cannondale Lefty SuperMax has an offset of 53mm, (see here: TRIGGER 29ER 1 - Trigger 29er - OverMountain - Mountain - Bikes - 2013 under the "Geo" tab) I think I am going for a Ripley when I can get a Left SuperMax 130mm. I suspect that the A-C of the Lefty is about the same as the 120mm Fox 32 or a bit more. It should be right in the ballpark, as well as lighter and stiffer than the Fox 32 or 34.

    Either Mavic Crossmax ST wheels or perhaps Specialized Roval 29er Carbon to go with the rest of the bike using Ibis's XT build with the 24-34 double chainrings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRSpalding View Post
    Now that I know that the Cannondale Lefty SuperMax has an offset of 53mm, (see here: TRIGGER 29ER 1 - Trigger 29er - OverMountain - Mountain - Bikes - 2013 under the "Geo" tab) I think I am going for a Ripley when I can get a Left SuperMax 130mm. I suspect that the A-C of the Lefty is about the same as the 120mm Fox 32 or a bit more. It should be right in the ballpark, as well as lighter and stiffer than the Fox 32 or 34.

    Either Mavic Crossmax ST wheels or perhaps Specialized Roval 29er Carbon to go with the rest of the bike using Ibis's XT build with the 24-34 double chainrings.

    I may be wrong, but I just want to caution that the fork on the Trigger supposedly only comes with the bike, and not independently. I was talking with someone in the Cannondale forum who is familiar. And I've heard it from at least one other source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg K View Post
    I may be wrong, but I just want to caution that the fork on the Trigger supposedly only comes with the bike, and not independently. I was talking with someone in the Cannondale forum who is familiar. And I've heard it from at least one other source.
    For now, you are correct. I am hopeful that they will be releasing it for general sale to the aftermarket (Project 321, Dr. Cannondale) by the end of this summer once they have gotten enough stock to fulfill their own Trigger 29er channel. You can now get the 2013 Lefty Hybrid from both those suppliers for both 26" and 29" (and 650b too!) wheels.

    If not, I'll have to eBay it from a private party I guess.

    And if I really can't get one, I'll *settle* for the Fox 34 140mm if I have to.

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    Just like bassn I am going to transfer my XX group from the Tallboy. I'll post photos as soon as it gets done

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshthedoc1 View Post
    Just like bassn I am going to transfer my XX group from the Tallboy. I'll post photos as soon as it gets done
    Nice! Have you decided which fork you're going with on the new Ripley? I just changed my order from a 120 to 140. I'm pretty sure if I got the 120 there would be many occasions I would regret not having the 140, but probably not th other way around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bassn View Post
    Nice! Have you decided which fork you're going with on the new Ripley? I just changed my order from a 120 to 140. I'm pretty sure if I got the 120 there would be many occasions I would regret not having the 140, but probably not th other way around.
    Thats a good question. I am in angst about it. A couple of guys from my LBS were up in santa cruz and rode the bike for several days. One does huge jumps and does a lot of air time, he's getting the 140. The other is very aggressive, but usually keeps the rubber on the ground, he's doing the 120. I am a very aggressive rider as well, but I just don't do big hits anymore (big hits=increased potential for crashes=no work because of injury=no money for cool stuff=oh yeah, no money for wife and kid). Because of this I've been steered towards the 120. Does the Talas have the same 51mm offset? perhaps the best of both worlds with changing travel on the fly.

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    +1on gluten

    I have lost a lot of weight cutting gluten. Hint, gluten free beer as well.
    Quote Originally Posted by durtsurf View Post
    I really don't think this is a weght weenie bike, have you seriously looked at the weight of the 120mm minimum fork you will have on this bike. Your gonna add a half pound there and really this bike is designed for wheels that will weigh 200 grams more than weight weenie wheels. And the frame is gonna weigh more than a weightweenie frame. If you are a weight weenie go with a 100 mm race bike and save yourself two pounds. That being said my advice is to get the ripley and give up your weight weenie ways. Thro some havens or equivalent on it and I bet you will average faster speeds anyway and have a lot more fun. This bike will weigh 4 pounds more than a weight weenie hard tail and two pounds more that a weight weenie full,susension. Last few years I have been a real weight weenie, I have seen the light. Performamce and rigidity first, weight secomd , price third and you will have an awesome fast bike. Cut sugar and gluten out of your diet and you will lose 5 pounds in a month. Problem solved

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    hey guys, I'm trying to decide between xt and x0 (xo would have magura mt6) The price diff through my lbs is about $600. I'm also trying to decide between stans arch ex and wtb freguency i23 rims (no price diff). Thoughts? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeppman View Post
    hey guys, I'm trying to decide between xt and x0 (xo would have magura mt6) The price diff through my lbs is about $600. I'm also trying to decide between stans arch ex and wtb freguency i23 rims (no price diff). Thoughts? Thanks!
    Shimano, and for me carbon bike/carbon rims. Given that choice I'd go with the stan's.

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    Xt... Wayyyy better brakes.. The new shadow plus works great.. push and pull with 2x gear dump.. And for me-- just a system that works better.. I have both-- ill stick with xt.. As for rims--- light bicycle carbon rims 29, wide, process 2 on kings or hadlys..

    If your ONLY going to ride the bike in the mountains-- then xx1 is something to look at.. But for me -- i ride to much too and from the trail-- and i just think id be spinning out with a single front gear.. So for me -- 2x10 is the way to go.. But it sure would be nice to ditch that front D-- and cables and adjustments and extra rings etc.. But with that said-- if i did go xx1-- id still go xt brakes..

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    I've been told there is a 1lb weight difference between XT and X0. Is that pretty accurate? That's really the only reason why I was considering X0 over XT.

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    There is about a pound difference.. But i stopped looking at weights and just went with function.. Which system do i like better.. 100% full disclosure-- im actually running a hybrid right now...

    xt brakes-- these are a must
    xo cranks-- stiff and liked the way the feel and look plus 120 grams lighter
    xt Derailleur
    xt shifters... I like the push and pull option for the gears along with 2x dump option

    For me-- this is the combo i really like.. Better function-- lower cost at only a small weight penalty.. You are not going to feel a half pound difference when your on the bike riding.. But you will notice better shifts and a smoother ride..

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    I am going with Medium Black, sticking with XT build best bang for the buck. I like like Sram XX on my current bike but don't love it. I think the XT brakes and drive-train is better (for me at least) Selling the Arches, anyone want to buy some new Arches never ridden don't have them yet, $425. I ordered up some Specialized Roval Control Carbon wheels. Wheels came in, bike hasn't! Not sure when the med is going to show. Also switched out the tires, not sure yet, Han Damph, Nobby Nics, or Specialized. Need something fatter than stock, any suggestions?

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    Thanks again guys, appreciate your help. I think XT would make the most sense for my needs. Stilling would be happy to hear anyone other opinions

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    Zeppman, let us know what you decide. My theory was sell the stock wheels for $400 or so, take the $600 spread and get some carbon wheels, still I tiny bit heavier but not much plus you have tough still wheels. In my opinion flexy wheels have been the only downside to a 29er. The Arch wheels are pretty darn good but do move around a bit more than I would like. I think with the carbon wheels and the flex make most of the issues go away.

    I was really leaning towards the 120 but all my race buddies, mechanic friends, Ibis etc convinced my the 34 is the way to go. I am little worried it might be a little slack for my liking but I can always reduce the travel a bit to make it a little steeper if need be.

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    Truckeemtb-- you can also get the 140 and use a angleset headset... Do a 1 degree and now your running a 69.5 140--- fast handling and some travel..

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