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    Pace/DT swiss fork

    Does anyone have any experience with Pace/DT swiss forks? I was looking at the EXC 150 and the XMC 130. I also wanted to know the difference between the EXC 150 and the EXC 150 TA. What does the TA stand for I was thinking of one of these for a mojo build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iguy02
    Does anyone have any experience with Pace/DT swiss forks? I was looking at the EXC 150 and the XMC 130. I also wanted to know the difference between the EXC 150 and the EXC 150 TA. What does the TA stand for I was thinking of one of these for a mojo build.
    TA is the Through Axle version. Very pretty.

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    Are the DT Swiss forks available? I haven't seen them yet. I have the Pace 150 TA. It works beautifully on the Mojo.

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    Pace RC41 XCAM 130mm

    I've had the Pace RC41 XCAM 130mm (=DT XMC130?) forks for about 6 mths and found they're very plush which suits the plushness of the RP23/Mojo very well. I have both F/R setup with fairly low pressure for that couch like feel and with the riding I do (XC/Trail) I rarely bottom out.

    Depending on type of riding you do XC/Trail or if more 'All Mountain' you may prefer the Through Axle for extra stiffness

    The forks are in this years (08) Dirtworks (Aussie Distributor) catalogue so can only assume that they're available
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    Quote Originally Posted by AussieRider
    The forks are in this years (08) Dirt Works (Aussie Distributor) catalogue so can only assume that they're available
    they should be available in Feb/March.

    From time to time (like this one) we have to include new products in the catalogue in advance of delivery... (since the catalogue is a 12 month thing).

    I'm hangin' of the 80mm models for a pair for my 95' Mantis Pro Floater build...

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    Can these be ordered from anywhere in the USA?

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    End of March in UK for EX150 TA according to Pace.

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    Anyone got a heads up on the cost of these puppies? I'm in UK but in USA quite a bit so cost in $ or £ ould be cool. 150mm thru-axle air fork with DT build quality, sweet carbon weave to match my new SL and a weight of plenty under 4lbs, sounds good to me!

    If anyone knows the price that would be great.....

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    According to Pace £699 for the EX150TA

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    Insane?

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclelife
    According to Pace £699 for the EX150TA
    that is about $1400 ... pure insanity! Almost anything else looks like a much better option!

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    Worries over the new DT swiss Forks

    I am waiting for my new Mojo SL frame as was originally going to get a Fox Float 140mm but have my name down for the new DT Swiss EXC 150mm bolt through , hoping to get a stiffer front end with slightly more travel then the Fox and not increasing the weight by going for a Fox Talas 36.
    I have alway been a bit worried re the reliability issue of PACE forks and was hoping that with DT Swiss making them that would improve? . Has anyone out there got hold of one of these forks or seen any test reports. Worryingly there is one review on Mtbr.com for the 80mm fork which looks pretty awful. I dont know whether to stick with Fox float for a year or so and see whether the DT swiss fork is a winner or looser , £699 is alot to pay for a crap fork!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsalmondoc
    I have alway been a bit worried re the reliability issue of PACE forks and was hoping that with DT Swiss making them that would improve? . Has anyone out there got hold of one of these forks or seen any test reports. Worryingly there is one review on Mtbr.com for the 80mm fork which looks pretty awful. I dont know whether to stick with Fox float for a year or so and see whether the DT swiss fork is a winner or looser , £699 is alot to pay for a crap fork!!
    It comes down to stupid-purchasing: products from the UK or Europe that are already widely overpriced are an absolute no-no with the dollar exchange rate the republicans had given us.

    To top it all the DT might not even be reliable (I don't trust MBA much, but their DT 100 fall apart in a recent test). Be smart: Get anything else but a DT until prices come down in the sub $1000.

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    I've had the Pace RC41 fighters for 3 years. These are the DT 150 now. Had no problems what so ever with them(apart from hitting the back of a car ) . I have them on my Mojo now and find them excellent forks.I demoed a Mojo with fox talas forks on set up for my weight etc. Not a patch on the fighters for smoothing out the trail. Also supposed to be the stiffest standard quick release forks around. I did get them for a bargain price of £380 new 3 years ago but having used them would pay the full price again if I had to-RECOMMENDED.

    Downside of them being DT swiss now is the sickly colours/graphics

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    Keep in mind that Europeans pay a lot more for bike parts than us spoiled Americans (or transplants). You can't take the British Pound price and do a straight conversion. I suspect the DT forks will be sub $1K. Either way, expensive, especially for an untested (as of the US market) equipment. They do look enticing at 3.5lbs for a 150mm throughaxle fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK_
    Keep in mind that Europeans pay a lot more for bike parts than us spoiled Americans (or transplants).

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    Not quite true for all parts. Shimano, for example, seems to be cheapest in Germany. For example, the XTR crank goes for 250 Euros, whilst in the US it seems to be about $450-500. But for US brands, you are definitely right...

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    Pace 150/Dt swiss 150

    Quote Originally Posted by noshortcuts
    Are the DT Swiss forks available? I haven't seen them yet. I have the Pace 150 TA. It works beautifully on the Mojo.
    Hi I have the DT Swiss 150mm TA on order to go on my SL , not sure which will arrive first !
    Do you use the lock down facility for climbs? I've only had Fox talas forks in past so happy with changing the travel on these forks , not sure if the PACE/DT Swiss work in the same way. Whats the head angle like on the Mojo with the Pace fork at 150mm. I really like the thought of a bit more travel than a Foc 32 float most people use on a mojo plus the extra stiffness of a bolt through.

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    Idea! epiphany

    MK, that's quite light for an AM setup - 150mm & TA already (great option for my project which is on its way so0n)!

    Thanks!
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    There was no need to scare potential buyers and burn bridges "buddy"
    Tell me now, what's Product testing all bout then?

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    That DT fork would look damn good on an SL with red links

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    I agree.. I have one on order

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    Why must all DT products be so expensive? I understand its Swiss but Pace used to be cheaper and unlike other product that Swiss made, DT actually just bought over Pace to have their suspension so why with the price increase, there is no R&D except DT spending a lot of money into acquiring Pace .
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    Quote Originally Posted by robbieracer
    I agree.. I have one on order
    Yeah I'm seriously toying with the idea. Let me know how you go when you get them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelhot
    Why must all DT products be so expensive? I understand its Swiss but Pace used to be cheaper and unlike other product that Swiss made, DT actually just bought over Pace to have their suspension so why with the price increase, there is no R&D except DT spending a lot of money into acquiring Pace .
    I'm still hoping to see better distribution and support from DT since they have the resources that Pace didn't. If they give us that, they should start to sell enough to be able to lower the price. I can dream.

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    Bout 1,200$

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelhot
    Why must all DT products be so expensive? I understand its Swiss but Pace used to be cheaper and unlike other product that Swiss made, DT actually just bought over Pace to have their suspension so why with the price increase, there is no R&D except DT spending a lot of money into acquiring Pace .
    actually DT Swiss have done quite a lot since buying the Pace fork business.

    to start with... they moved all the manufacturing and assembly equipment to Switzerland and the main DT Swiss factory.

    next... all the internals are now manufactured to higher tollerances in Switzerland. (and no... I'm not criticising the UK made Pace forks... just making the point that one thing that DT Swiss wanted to do was inprove the quality control)

    They tested the crown/upper legs interface and improved the bonding process.

    The inner legs are now coming form the same manufacturer that makes the inner legs for Fox.

    DT Swiss are doing extensive (and ongoing) R & D on the range and are improving the forks where they can.

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    actually DT Swiss have done quite a lot since buying the Pace fork business.

    to start with... they moved all the manufacturing and assembly equipment to Switzerland and the main DT Swiss factory.

    next... all the internals are now manufactured to higher tollerances in Switzerland. (and no... I'm not criticising the UK made Pace forks... just making the point that one thing that DT Swiss wanted to do was inprove the quality control)

    They tested the crown/upper legs interface and improved the bonding process.

    The inner legs are now coming form the same manufacturer that makes the inner legs for Fox.

    DT Swiss are doing extensive (and ongoing) R & D on the range and are improving the forks where they can.

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    Ah, thanks. I forgot all about those facts.
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    Anyone get their DT Swiss EXC 150's yet?

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    Pace Sucks

    I have been waiting 6 weeks for my DT SWISS EXC150 TA from LBS only to be told that the first delivery of these forks was in samll quantities so few orders were filled.
    I amnow told that PACE UK will not be getting another delivery for 4 weeks andagain small numbers so many will be disappointed also that the price of this fork is increasing to £799 !!!!!!!!!!!!.
    DT Swiss are messing us all around here , poor show after all the hype about there new forks. Shame PACE sold out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigsalmondoc
    Shame PACE sold out.
    Not here in Spain. I have already bought a Pace RC41 XCAM and a Pace RC41 Fighter. They are brand new and quite cheap. 400 euro the XCAM and 530 the Fighter.
    They have been bought directly fron the dealer.

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    Here in the states my EXC 150 has arrrived, just no bike to put it on yet!

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    I have the Pace RC40 XCAM w/ 20mm through axle. It's on my XC bike mainly due to the fact that I'm a big guy and i got the fork new for $500 a year ago.

    Very plush, lock out / Launch Control is terrific. Under 4lbs. for an oil dampened, coil shock is very light!

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    Bumpity Bump!

    Thinking of a DT swiss on an Intense 5.5 build. Anyone got / using / reviewed them yet?

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    I have one a 150 exc on my Mojo, pretty satisfied with it.

    what I like:

    - very plush
    - full travel
    - look obviously
    - pretty stiff for me even without the 20mm axle...i know 20mm would have been better but for me its enough

    bad:

    - easy to leave marks on the fork
    - service instructions ...where can I find some....
    - service centers in canada ?
    - how reliable on the long run.... dont know
    - limited adjustments and no clicks between them...minor

    that is my experience with it so far
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    Bike looks sweet...to darn clean! Need the DT Swiss Carbon rear shock to match up.

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    pdontig, your bike is too clean, get it dirty!
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    Ooooooh! Nice bike!

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    tx! actually the photos is just after a wash following a ride and the sun make it look really shiny....it is usually not that clean! lol

    as for the dt shock...if it was not that expensive I would think of it...

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    Go for it, pdontig! Get two, I'd say! As a spare
    Quote Originally Posted by jcatienza
    There was no need to scare potential buyers and burn bridges "buddy"
    Tell me now, what's Product testing all bout then?

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    New question here. wow

    Quote Originally Posted by pdontig
    I have one a 150 exc on my Mojo, pretty satisfied with it.

    what I like:

    - very plush
    - full travel
    - look obviously
    - pretty stiff for me even without the 20mm axle...i know 20mm would have been better but for me its enough

    bad:

    - easy to leave marks on the fork
    - service instructions ...where can I find some....
    - service centers in canada ?
    - how reliable on the long run.... dont know
    - limited adjustments and no clicks between them...minor

    that is my experience with it so far

    cool looking bike and fork.

    what's Launch Control really?
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    what's Launch Control really?
    Launch Control is DT version of Remote PopLoc. ....If I'm not mistaken
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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelhot
    Launch Control is DT version of Remote PopLoc. ....If I'm not mistaken
    i still need an explanation..

    i've had two ETA Marzocchi forks, but never had a DT

    i'm deciding b/w Magura Thor 140/100 and DT S 150

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    What explanation?
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    Launch Control: Allows you set and forget the travel for uphills because if you don't release it for the downhill, Launch Control will when it's needed......

    Lock down travel to preferred travel by pushing down the knob on the top of the fork (right side) and then push down the bike to preferred travel. It's not a total lock out, it leaves 70-90mm(?) of travel available no matter what.

    Launch control is a blow off valve to release the travel to full travel. This happens on "fast" (hard/square) bumps. You can also lift the knob you pushed down to return to travel. You can also create a fast bump by quickly lifting and pushing down the front end.

    Launch Control sensitivity is adjustable.

    Works great in my case (Pace Fighter 20mm for 2 years).

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    New question here.

    Quote Originally Posted by wheelhot
    What explanation?
    How much can the travel be reduced by?
    Can it be done while riding?
    Is the travel reduced by compressing from the handle bar while riding or braking??
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    New question here.

    Quote Originally Posted by noshortcuts
    Launch Control: Allows you set and forget the travel for uphills because if you don't release it for the downhill, Launch Control will when it's needed......

    Lock down travel to preferred travel by pushing down the knob on the top of the fork (right side) and then push down the bike to preferred travel. It's not a total lock out, it leaves 70-90mm(?) of travel available no matter what.

    Launch control is a blow off valve to release the travel to full travel. This happens on "fast" (hard/square) bumps. You can also lift the knob you pushed down to return to travel. You can also create a fast bump by quickly lifting and pushing down the front end.

    Launch Control sensitivity is adjustable.

    Works great in my case (Pace Fighter 20mm for 2 years).
    Thanks!
    So the trave can be set to 100mm, for climbing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailNut
    Thanks!
    So the trave can be set to 100mm, for climbing?
    No. the manual says it only goes as far down as 130mm. However, when I measure mine at the furthest lock down point, I measure it set at 112mm.

    Also, to correct my earlier post: the manual says, "....the last 40mm of travel always remains active, even when in Lockout mode."
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    130mm

    Quote Originally Posted by noshortcuts
    No. the manual says it only goes as far down as 130mm. However, when I measure mine at the furthest lock down point, I measure it set at 112mm.

    Also, to correct my earlier post: the manual says, "....the last 40mm of travel always remains active, even when in Lockout mode."

    cool, 130mm will work.

    i had a Vanilla 130 (with an inverted 10* stem) that worked well on my current HT before I gave the Vanilla to our son's bike. I plan to buy the fork first and front wheel, then later buy a AM FS frame (Ibis Mojo SL, Yeti 575, or Trek Remedy 9) then covert the HT into a "winter" single speed.
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    Here's my 150TA's getting some stick on the SL;



    Great forks - loads better than my PIkes

    Nice day yesterday in the UK - for a change!

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