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    New SL prototype

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    oh la la. sort of intriguing. like a strip tease.

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    Looks great although I'd do away with the cut-aways on the downtube.

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    Too busy

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    Love it!!!
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    Aka the zebra. :-)

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    whats prototype about it? does it have a tapered head tube now? its not just the paint, right?
    here we go again

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    Quote Originally Posted by eleven-yo
    whats prototype about it? does it have a tapered head tube now? its not just the paint, right?
    Yes, it is just the paint.
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    I'd love to see a 110-120mm version of the sl

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    you really need to do more masking around pivot points, derailleur hanger attachment, disc bosses, etc, or at least face those spots before mounting anything, which is gonna be hit or miss since there aren't facing tools for those things. Basically, you shouldn't be painting anything that isn't carbon.

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    sweet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coloradoxj13
    you really need to do more masking around pivot points, derailleur hanger attachment, disc bosses, etc, or at least face those spots before mounting anything, which is gonna be hit or miss since there aren't facing tools for those things. Basically, you shouldn't be painting anything that isn't carbon.
    Don't worry.......everything is under control
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    he meant on the rear triangle

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    Bravo!

    Great new pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu
    he meant on the rear triangle
    Yes, I know. I only took the opportunity I was posting the answer to show another picture, as I am doing it now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isurus
    Bravo!

    Great new pics.

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    I like it. When are you going to build it?

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    I think it is already built...

    he, he, he!

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    Be patient my friends, the bike is already built........ I'll be showing it gradually, it is more exciting
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    Very great bike and better even than your other before that.
    Me gustan tus diseños.

    Congratulations and....

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    Quote Originally Posted by hairless
    Very great bike and better even than your other before that.
    Me gustan tus diseños.

    Congratulations and....

    Saludetes
    Hi hairless, nice to meet you too in this forum.

    Yes, I also like much more this new bike than the other one.
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    The blue ruins it IMO, the design is alittle busy for me, the curves already make the frame have alot 'going on'.

    Nice to see smooth paint lines however

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    looks good. i'd just keep the links blue to keep it subtle, otherwise the blue is "too much" like you see on other bikes - brake levers, grip locks, stem spacers, top cap, headset, you get my point. keep the cable routes black along with the hanger.

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    shoulda left the downtube completely white, and used silver links, that would of done it

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    Silver links???? arggggggg, never. I have several components in the bike that are blue......

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpinibis
    Silver links???? arggggggg, never. I have several components in the bike that are blue......
    I don't believe you. You should post some pics of the fully-built bike to prove it!

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    Paint's fine, do-dads are fine, but really what she needs is.....

    DIRT.
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    Pictures......
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    Congrats on the complete bike!

    I'd swap 90% of the blue/white parts for black (esp seatpost, crank, rims, and grips) but you definitely made a unique bike that is 100% "you".

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    holy ****, I thought just the frame had a lot going on!

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    VERY NICE!! Great job. I don't like the seat post though, black would like much nicer. Other then that it looks great.

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    Well, lots of detail. Not my cup of tea but hats off for all the effort! One quick note, I would re-route that front brake cable over rather than through the fork arch to avoid an incident.

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    Well, lots of detail. Not my cup of tea (I liked it better before the addition of the zebra stripe cutouts) but hats off for all the effort! One quick note, I would re-route that front brake cable over the fork crown rather than through and under the crown to avoid an incident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buggymancan
    Well, lots of detail. Not my cup of tea (I liked it better before the addition of the zebra stripe cutouts) but hats off for all the effort! One quick note, I would re-route that front brake cable over the fork crown rather than through and under the crown to avoid an incident.
    Wrong, that's the best way to route the front brake cable on the DT forks. The cable is fixed to the arch of the fork, so when you turn the handlebar the brake cable turns with the fork and with the handlebar. It is always in the same position. And it is protected against snagging with branches because it is routed inner side of the fork

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpinibis
    Wrong, that's the best way to route the front brake cable on the DT forks. The cable is fixed to the arch of the fork, so when you turn the handlebar the brake cable turns with the fork and with the handlebar. It is always in the same position. And it is protected against snagging with branches because it is routed inner side of the fork
    He's talking about when the fork bottoms I believe.If you remove the air from the fork & bottom the fork out the hose does some really ugly things.I routed mine up behind the crown with a little clear tape on the crown.Amazing job on the bike - looks great.What did you use to remove anodizing from some of the parts you had re - anodized.

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    Well, the brake cable is flexible, so when the fork compress the brake cable bends. And if you remove the air as you say, I suppose you won't use the fork wtihout air. The fork can compress as much as 10 cm, that's not a problem for the brake cable, as I said it bends on the curve.
    I have tested this method not only in this bike but in others, and it is the best and safer way.

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    Different, but I like it. I keep my Ibis very low key. The exact opposite. I have to lock it up in my truck sometimes and I want people to think it just another bike.

    Erik

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    Here's my 2 cents: I think it's kind of ugly. And I can't believe blue ano has made a comeback.

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    Wow! Just Wow!
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    Quote Originally Posted by alpinibis
    And it is protected against snagging with branches because it is routed inner side of the fork
    I am pretty sure it is impossible to snag a branch while posing and taking pictures. This thing isn't ever going to be ridden.

    Also, this is all looking amazingly familiar
    My XCLUSIBIS bike

    and this is not a prototype, it is a paintjob. You have not changes anything consequential on the bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coloradoxj13
    I am pretty sure it is impossible to snag a branch while posing and taking pictures. This thing isn't ever going to be ridden.
    Also, this is all looking amazingly familiar
    My XCLUSIBIS bike
    and this is not a prototype, it is a paintjob. You have not changes anything consequential on the bike.

    That bike you say is now this one (my previous prototype): Mojo SL - NEW CUSTOM PAINT , and the one you can see in this post is another completely new. New frame with new paintjob and new components. You should investigate more seriously.
    And about "This thing isn't ever going to be ridden"..........
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    Strange

    Why do all of those pictures look completely fake to me?!?

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    maybe because they have been taken with a poor resolution mobile phone?

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    maybe because they have been taken with a poor resolution mobile phone?
    No i don't think it's that........with the exception of one, they are all very crisp. I think it may be that the color combinations just look very un-natural against the natural backgrounds.

    Sweet components and frame though! Your design on the back of the seat tube is a nice touch also.
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    One would have to be a total poser to be seen on this bike! Makes the blue and pink fade Klein bikes look tame!
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    Quote Originally Posted by buggymancan
    ...How would one dress to play the part?...
    "...Some local fiend had built it with his own three hands..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpinibis

    That bike you say is now this one (my previous prototype): Mojo SL - NEW CUSTOM PAINT , and the one you can see in this post is another completely new. New frame with new paintjob and new components. You should investigate more seriously.
    And about "This thing isn't ever going to be ridden"..........
    Prototype : A prototype is an original type, form, or instance of something serving as a typical example, basis, or standard for other things of the same category.

    This is still an Ibis Mojo SL, not a prototype, this is not new, nor will more be built in its image (I hope not at least). The first Mojo HD that was built was a prototype, customizing a commercially available bike does not a prototype make.

    I am done with this discussion, show me some scratches, some dirt on it, and some wear and tear, and I will believe it is being ridden.

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    I have a headache after looking at that
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    I'd love to see that frame with a more dialed-down approach to anodized parts.

    Something like Liam2051's ride, but with blue instead of red to match the frame.


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    Actually, just swap that frame onto Hail's XCLUSIBIS ride and you've got yourself a real-looker! (although I love the nude carbon)


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    Opinions are like...

    Nice job Alpin!
    Funny how the world is a critic. I'd offer it to Hans as a show bike!

    The merit of originality is not novelty; it is sincerity. -Thomas Carlyle

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    Quote Originally Posted by verslowrdr
    Better still with blue t-shirt (to match the colors of the bike of course)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coloradoxj13
    Prototype : A prototype is an original type, form, or instance of something serving as a typical example, basis, or standard for other things of the same category.

    This is still an Ibis Mojo SL, not a prototype, this is not new, nor will more be built in its image (I hope not at least). The first Mojo HD that was built was a prototype, customizing a commercially available bike does not a prototype make.

    I am done with this discussion, show me some scratches, some dirt on it, and some wear and tear, and I will believe it is being ridden.
    Well, my English is not as good as yours, so I used the word "prototype" like I could have used another word.
    This thread is to show a bike (as everybody does) with a exclusive paintjob, and eventually I'll show some pictures of the rides I do here in Spain (although someone thinks they are fake). If you want to see scratchs......come to Spain to see them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelly_NH
    Actually, just swap that frame onto Hail's XCLUSIBIS ride and you've got yourself a real-looker! (although I love the nude carbon)

    Have I told you that the Xclusibis and my previous white Mojo SL is the same? (with some changes in components)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yerma
    Nice job Alpin!
    Funny how the world is a critic. I'd offer it to Hans as a show bike!

    The merit of originality is not novelty; it is sincerity. -Thomas Carlyle
    Wise words, I was thinking the same, but I didn't want to say anything about it because people can take it personally and I prefer not to rise controversy
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    Sweet bike(s)! nice job alpinibis!

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    nice job mate, if you like it, thats all that matters. i wanto to see nuc pesto where you have white, so if you have 5 on photo shop and dont mind posting that. i would appreciate it.
    again, love your enthusiasm for something less ordinary.

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    Something like this?
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    You would never get lost out on the trails, search and rescue would probably be blinded by that thing^ nuclear pesto works in moderation imo

    Thanks for the linkage by the way pelly
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    outstanding! i think you may have designed my next colour scheme. may soften it a bit though. wheels may be going to far. i really like that. sad i know, but that floats my boat, so to speak. the more i look, the more i like. thanks for that. might be my background for a while.

    and yep, be hard to lose in the bush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krolik
    I'd love to see a 110-120mm version of the sl
    Why?
    Read my BLOG!

    just a guy who loves bikes and exploring

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    Wow! Such a Busy looking bike!
    Very complex......I'm not sure I would build something like that....Pretty cool by the way...just not my cup of tea.

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    Why you got to be a hater Coloradoxj13? The guy built it up and if he wants to be a bit loose with the definition of prototype the so be it. If he wants to have a blinged out bike so what. Your being a bit pedantic don't ya think? Maybe you could post some pics of your killer runs down some black diamond runs out there in Colorado to show him how it's done.

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    Nice build!, forget the money part. How much time did you spend on the project. Lot's of detail. I'm sure you get the kick out of cleaning it after every run. Good job!

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    Thats insanely SEXY, clearly it's not everyones cup of tea but it is certainly mine, very well done.

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    I like it. but just would change the seatpost for a black one.
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    Some pictures with my PROTOTYPE (he, he.... I know someone that don't like that word...... the less he likes it the more I will use it ).
    Well, that place is in the north of Spain, it is called "Las Bardenas".
    Besides my PROTOTYPE, there was another Mojo, an Eddy Orange.
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    Nice Photo's! Prototype joking aside. The riding there looks amazing.

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    Nice!

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    I'm a graphic designer for a living, so take this with a grain of pretension.

    I like the overall idea, but it feels a bit too chunky and unfinished.
    Maybe eliminate the ones on the bottom of the down tube entirely?
    The cut-outs don't work for me on the fork either. Maybe they would if they were at the bottom, further away from the ones on the down tube? Maybe just cut them entirely? There can be too much of a good thing.
    It's giving me a subtle 'Space: 1999' vibe. Yes, I'm old.
    The typography on the DT Swiss fork on the blue/white show bike is terrible. No character.

    Hope this helps!

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    That is one ugly bike.

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    How much to get my frame re-painted in orange like that?!
    All your base are belong to ME.

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    Nice job! I like the creativity and the fact that it doesn't look like every other bike on here.

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    I gotta say ibis got some reeeal style!! Sweet set up but I would go for cb blu cobalts.... those blu formula r1's r sick as hell!! I dont know about the aerozine cranks...a xx white carbon cranks would make me dreeewwl on this bike!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinskyBA
    How much to get my frame re-painted in orange like that?!
    It depends........ if it is painted by a professional with good quality paint, maybe $300. If you paint the bike, it will be cheaper, maybe half of it, but you sould know what you are doing of course, because painting carbon fiber is very tricky..

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    Quote Originally Posted by schnee
    I'm a graphic designer for a living, so take this with a grain of pretension.

    I like the overall idea, but it feels a bit too chunky and unfinished.
    Maybe eliminate the ones on the bottom of the down tube entirely?
    The cut-outs don't work for me on the fork either. Maybe they would if they were at the bottom, further away from the ones on the down tube? Maybe just cut them entirely? There can be too much of a good thing.
    It's giving me a subtle 'Space: 1999' vibe. Yes, I'm old.
    The typography on the DT Swiss fork on the blue/white show bike is terrible. No character.

    Hope this helps!
    Well, getting to this point I have to say that the frame was sent to me for free (I can't say who sent it) to make a paint job that was a mixture of my previous bike (you can see the picture below) and the HD artwork. So my "design" was the two "eyes" you can see in the picture below and the rest (the HD design) was suggested by the person who sent me the frame. That person wanted the same cut-outs on the bottom of the down tube, so to make those cut-outs and the ones on the top tube and seta stays with the same length, we had to shortened the ones on the top tube and the seat stays.
    "He" also wanted the fork to be painted with the same cut-outs as the frame, and that's it.
    This person has now plenty of pictures of the bike to make............................. I can't tell, sorry. Maybe you will discover it soon.
    That's the reason why I call this bike "prototype"

    Well in this picture you can see my previous paint job, it was my design and it is the two "eyes" in clear, where you can see the carbon fiber.
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    Man, who cares what others think. If you like it, then that is all that matters. Most the people hating on the bike couldn't afford it anyways! lol. Nice job and enjoy the sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpinibis
    Well, getting to this point I have to say that the frame was sent to me for free (I can't say who sent it) to make a paint job that was a mixture of my previous bike (you can see the picture below) and the HD artwork. So my "design" was the two "eyes" you can see in the picture below and the rest (the HD design) was suggested by the person who sent me the frame. That person wanted the same cut-outs on the bottom of the down tube, so to make those cut-outs and the ones on the top tube and seta stays with the same length, we had to shortened the ones on the top tube and the seat stays.
    "He" also wanted the fork to be painted with the same cut-outs as the frame, and that's it.
    This person has now plenty of pictures of the bike to make............................. I can't tell, sorry. Maybe you will discover it soon.
    That's the reason why I call this bike "prototype"

    Well in this picture you can see my previous paint job, it was my design and it is the two "eyes" in clear, where you can see the carbon fiber.
    Thanks for taking my feedback in stride.

    Looking at it later, it was a bit too harsh... let me re-state part of it again so that comes across, if you don't mind... :-)

    The 'eyes' (or the naked carbon within the loops) are perfect. I think that accentuates the flow of the frame, draws the eye towards the gorgeous curves, and does it's job perfectly.

    The stuff I was making suggestions on was the geometric 'stripey' cutouts on the outside edges, on the top and bottom near the head tube, on the chain stays, etc. Those are the bits that look a tad unfinished and busy. It has to do with the contrast of thicks and thins, the amount of spacing in between. They're neat details, and I think are good, but I feel like they could be refined a bit.

    Here's one QUICK EXAMPLE of what I mean.

    Top of the image: Right now, with the big thick chunks spaced evenly apart, (the top of the image) they draw attention, and create 'blocky' noise. That's totally fine, but if you have a lot of them all over a swoopy frame like the Ibis, it starts to work against it.



    Bottom of the image: If you want to have those shapes everywhere, maybe make the detail a bit less 'hazard stripe' looking. One example - a little less space between the blocks, a little more 'gradient' effect, make the trailing off shapes a bit thinner. It's a bit more refined, hangs together more like one shape, but has detail.

    That is one possible road to take, another is to keep the current bold design, but if you use them a bit more selectively - maybe only near the headtube, and on the chainstay - and have more subtle details elsewhere, like on the downtube near the BB and fork ends - then it wouldn't break up the lines of the bike so much.

    See what I mean? Just one designer to another, throwing out ideas.

    Anyway, hope that helps.

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    This bike looks sick. It is a little over the top in the bling department but I really like it.
    Don't be afraid to get it dirty, though

    Enjoy riding it!

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    Way to go Alpinibis, truly remarkable. I have enjoyed the process of watching your bikes unfold. There have been a few bikes on this forum that people would consider way out there. What I like about that is that it shows me possibilities, it gives me ideas. It's a chance to see components and designs that I've never seen before. I am looking at building an Ibis bike from scratch, something I have never done before. I am very excited about my project. I look forward to more!

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    Nice work!!!! I'd go with a little less blue and more carbon to keep it black and white with just a few blue accents... Don't get me wrong it looks pretty damn tight!!!

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