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    New Ibis

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    Let the speculation begin!

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    650b HD?

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    Would be stoked by a HD 650B getting announced but think the Tranny 29 will be next

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    Shadow seems to show:
    • Time ATAC MTB pedals
    • Single Chainring
    • Some sort of linkage above the (actual) pedal?
    • Funky boa/drop bars?
    • Beefy fork stanchions/lowers
    • Not much height between top of tire and fork crown

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelly_NH View Post
    Shadow seems to show:
    • Time ATAC MTB pedals
    • Single Chainring
    • Some sort of linkage above the (actual) pedal?
    • Funky boa/drop bars?
    • Beefy fork stanchions/lowers
    • Not much height between top of tire and fork crown
    What is a "boa" bar?

    I think you may see as the hook of a dropbar is the fork crown and stanchion.
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    New Ibis

    Tranny 29er?


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    Pivot looks like it could be eccentrics like the Ripley. My guess is 650b, 160mm travel, DW eccentric link, Enduro killing machine. If the Mojo HD and Ripley had a kid. They spent a lot of time on the Ripley's frame and link, maybe it wasn't all spent on the Ripley.

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    And no your not giving away too much with that pic. Need another teaser.

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    I have an HD already which I wont be getting rid of anytime soon. I would really like a light weight short travel slack 650b trail bike to pair up with my heavy built Mojo.

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    Exactly - An Ibis bike with geo similar to the Solo would be fantastic and a great compliment to the HD

    Quote Originally Posted by fuenstock View Post
    I have an HD already which I wont be getting rid of anytime soon. I would really like a light weight short travel slack 650b trail bike to pair up with my heavy built Mojo.
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    is this why the lbs in my place said that they are facing out the tranny and they are not accepting orders anymore?

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    Looks like a very short travel fork - definitely the Tranny 29er.

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    Just need Ibis to make a true 650 rear triangle for the HD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olijay View Post
    Looks like a very short travel fork - definitely the Tranny 29er.
    Agreed.
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    could it be? The HD-R?
    New Ibis-screen-shot-2013-06-04-12.35.53-am.png

    screen grabbed this from the 2013 owner's manual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SadikOne1 View Post
    could it be? The HD-R?
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    screen grabbed this from the 2013 owner's manual.
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    Can we please have a customer loyalty program or something? Discounts for loyal ibis-ians? haha, too many new things.. not enough money!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iwan View Post
    Heavens, YESSSS PLEASSS!
    I second that! This might be what I have been waiting on!

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    So what would be an HD-R TK ?

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    "TK" is an abbreviation for "To come" in the print world.

    I'm thinking 27.5 HD with eccentric links as mentioned above.

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    A new teaser has been posted on the Ibis site...

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    Ibis just pulled that page from the pdf... just goes from page 23 to 25 now, somebody's getting close

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    Someone at Ibis is having fun with us.
    *** Hello Ibis person ***

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    I do love the new paint scheme in the bottom right

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    I Hope that stands for HD rear triangle kit and they are bringing back the 24" rear wheel.... buck the trend Ibis!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phat Hair View Post
    A new teaser has been posted on the Ibis site...
    I checked it out: noticed an HD with a black and yellow trim picture.

    Since that's a new color, it would make sense that it is the new bike/ version.

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    if they are doing an unveiling next week, when will they be available for demo? next year? Ibis already came around these parts for the demo tour this year....
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    ACC bike paint trim color/27.5 with eccentrics ... damn that would make for an expensive year . Still lusting over a Ripley, now this ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeBC View Post
    So what would be an HD-R TK ?
    TK= totally kickass!

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    HD 650b with eccentric for sure.
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    doesnt look to be an eccentric...gotta be an hd 650b though

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    I'm trying not to get my hopes up, & there's still a good chance Ibis is messing with us (those rascals!). Maybe the bottom right is just a picture of Lopes' custom paint/decal HD? As much as I'd love a 27.5 HD, I think the Tranny 29 is the more likely candidate for Monday.

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    No way it is a Tranny 29 based on that photo. Way too much travel on the fork.

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    Looks like....Looks like....another desire about to be fulfilled
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salespunk View Post
    No way it is a Tranny 29 based on that photo. Way too much travel on the fork.
    You can tell the difference between 120mm & 160mm based on a shadow? I'm impressed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salespunk View Post
    No way it is a Tranny 29 based on that photo. Way too much travel on the fork.
    You sure?

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    It's clearly a Tranny29er, with a 650b HD rear triangle leaning against it.

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    HD-R = 650B HD Bike
    HD-R TK = 650B rear triangle only for current HD bikes.

    That's my guess.

    Or the TK means:

    Urban Dictionary: TKwww.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=TK‎Cached
    SimilarTK. Team Killer n. A person who engages in intentionally or unintentionally killing ... In the Professional Printing Industry, TK on a work order means "to come".

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    ^ agree

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    Have a look at the photo of the orange frame. I struggle with making sense of it. The cut outs seem to be in strange places. To me, it seems that the headtube is either somewhere outside the bottom of the photo, OR outside of the left upper corner - in which case we are looking at the seattube with the Ibis logo. In the latter case, I would be guessing a hardtail with a low toptube with cables on top. Could this be a female-oriented bike to compete with the SC Juliana series? In the former case I have no clue...

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    Sorry guys, I most likely had this wrong. Looking more closely, the orange frame is most likely a SL-R seen from behind the seattube. The photo just misses the shock mounts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perhas View Post
    Have a look at the photo of the orange frame. I struggle with making sense of it. The cut outs seem to be in strange places. To me, it seems that the headtube is either somewhere outside the bottom of the photo, OR outside of the left upper corner - in which case we are looking at the seattube with the Ibis logo. In the latter case, I would be guessing a hardtail with a low toptube with cables on top. Could this be a female-oriented bike to compete with the SC Juliana series? In the former case I have no clue...
    Looks like an orange SL-R, shot from behind the seat-tube.

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    So, an Ibis fat-bike. Who woulda thunk it?
    Wow, GJ, Fruita, and Moab trails are riding great. This is a killer spring for riding!

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    Quote Originally Posted by budgie View Post
    I'm trying not to get my hopes up, & there's still a good chance Ibis is messing with us (those rascals!). Maybe the bottom right is just a picture of Lopes' custom paint/decal HD? As much as I'd love a 27.5 HD, I think the Tranny 29 is the more likely candidate for Monday.

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    I'm virtually sure that the teaser refers to a new version of Mojo HD.

    If finally the new product of Ibis is like this bike showed on the pic uploaded by budgie, IMHO I prefer the "old" design. By the way, I think it is 26" bike (not 650b).

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    Ibis says pictures of past and present.
    you have 2 sl pictures, 1 SLR, 1 HD


    New bike is the Lopes paint scheme on another HD most likey 650?? The rear end is not eccentric like a Ripley, its more HD,

    The instagram pic/ comment shows a short stem 55mm and a fox 160mm 650B (I think)

    The shadow picture sure looks like a good sized fork also

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobanovskyy View Post
    I'm virtually sure that the teaser refers to a new version of Mojo HD.

    If finally the new product of Ibis is like this bike showed on the pic uploaded by budgie, IMHO I prefer the "old" design. By the way, I think it is 26" bike (not 650b).
    FYI: the image I posted above is an old photo of Lopes' HD that he put up on Instagram a while back, not a leaked photo of the new bike. My point is that the decals resemble those in the teaser shot, and is therefore possibly one of the "past" bikes. Sorry if that was confusing.
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    Not sure if everyone here saw it, but I posted the Instagram link below in the "When would Ibis potentially announce something new?" thread a few days ago (motoguru2007's post above made me wonder if he was referencing it):

    Photo by dubjh • Instagram

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    the way i saw it first:
    Mojo-C - SLR
    Banner - SL
    HD - New bike

    but with that photo of the lopes paint job...maybe the white one bottom left is new and budgie is correct that they are using trickeration on the bottom right

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    Kinda hard to tell - but does the andy whiteford pic look like the bike has internal cable routing?

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    Hmm the plot thickens, if you modify the web address for the HD to the following:

    http://www.ibiscycles.com/bikes/mojo_hdr/

    Instead of a page not found it asks for a password.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiny View Post
    Hmm the plot thickens, if you modify the web address for the HD to the following:

    http://www.ibiscycles.com/bikes/mojo_hdr/

    Instead of a page not found it asks for a password.
    Well shit guys, are we turning to hacking now? hahaha.

    Let's do some analyses: Santa Cruz has now got the solo and the bronson in their stable. While a 29er tranny would be *****ing, it's an already played out demand: there's toooo many carbon 29er hardtails available and with the ripley already kicking ass, no need to introduce another 29er race-ready machine.

    Not only is the Bronson a competitor to the HD (which can be ran as a 650b) the 125mm 26" trail bike, I feel, will soon become outdated by the 650b trailbike, much like the the 26" hardtail was phased out by the 29er hardtail trend. While I have not ridden an actual 650b bike, I can see the potential for a tweener wheel on a trail platform a la solo. In that little niche, I think Ibis can do some amazing work. Think about it: a fast and nimble, 650b, 125-130mm DW-linked (or even DW2XC; why develop such a complex system for only one bike) carbon ripper from the masterminds at ibis?

    sploosh.

    However, and this is more a calling to Ibis HQ than mtbr, is to perhaps alter the look of the front triangle. We've seen in in the mojo, the SL, the HD, the SL-R...you guys did a fantastic job with the Ripley design. Roxie, you haven't let us down in the past. I do wonder what else is up your sleeve.
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    That bottom left pic looks like the brown skidmark ain't they ad on the old SL.
    Now I'm interested...

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    Quote Originally Posted by budgie View Post
    You can tell the difference between 120mm & 160mm based on a shadow? I'm impressed.
    Quote Originally Posted by mazspeed View Post
    You sure?
    Yes and Yes. It is definitely a 180 mm front rotor and look at the space between the brake arch and tire vs the space between the brake arch and crown. No way that is a 100-120mm fork. My money is on a 150-160 travel 275 bike. Eccentrics are a definite possibility and could dramatically shorten the chainstays. That part you really can't see from the pictures

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robo SD View Post
    Not sure if everyone here saw it, but I posted the Instagram link below in the "When would Ibis potentially announce something new?" thread a few days ago (motoguru2007's post above made me wonder if he was referencing it):

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    The setup with the Havoc 35's and a 50mm stem also pretty much rules out the Tranny...

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    Maybe I'm reading too much into this tweet by Lopes:

    Brian Lopes ‏@BrianLopes 7 May
    Can't remember the last time I saw some of these. Most if u probably have no clue what they R. & they r going in 650b pic.twitter.com/kpgXyUhMDm

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    2014 Fox Float rear shock has the red dial on top. 2013 and earlier have the blue dial on top. Maybe the bottom-right is the new hotness afterall?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelly_NH View Post
    2014 Fox Float rear shock has the red dial on top. 2013 and earlier have the blue dial on top. Maybe the bottom-right is the new hotness afterall?
    good point!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SadikOne1 View Post
    Well shit guys, are we turning to hacking now? hahaha.
    No no, just detective work!

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    Dream upgrades from HD:
    Longer TT
    Slacker HA (66°-66.5°)
    Replacable dropouts for 650b option
    ISCG tabs
    Reverb Stealth routing
    140 mode with unchanged angles
    Shorter chainstays in 26" mode

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    Quote Originally Posted by hssp View Post
    dream upgrades from hd:
    Longer tt
    slacker ha (66°-66.5°)
    replacable dropouts for 650b option
    iscg tabs
    reverb stealth routing
    140 mode with unchanged angles
    shorter chainstays in 26" mode
    yessss!
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    directly from the owner manual, page 16:
    TAPERED HEAD TUBE
    Cane Creek headsets (see our webstore
    for the offerings.) If you are getting a
    King headset for your HD, be sure to
    order the ‘five over’ version.
    .......

    that you’d like to use, simply install an
    adapter that will make your fork work
    on the Mojos HD and SL-R, Ripley and
    Tranny29. <---------------

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    Quote Originally Posted by abraradam View Post
    directly from the owner manual, page 16:
    TAPERED HEAD TUBE
    Cane Creek headsets (see our webstore
    for the offerings.) If you are getting a
    King headset for your HD, be sure to
    order the ‘five over’ version.
    .......

    that you’d like to use, simply install an
    adapter that will make your fork work
    on the Mojos HD and SL-R, Ripley and
    Tranny29. <---------------
    Hmm, why?what?where?

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    set-up guide, directly from Ibis web site.

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    I am guessing there is an HD-R 650B and Tranny 29 coming soon. I have no idea which one will be announced on the 10th but most likely it's the HD-R. Speculation.

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    If it's the 650b, there goes my savings for this year!!!! Damn you if you don't build it, damn you if you do!!!

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    Something new!
    Try to access the on-line owner manual, activate the "find" function and type "HD-R"
    It's a kind of magic....

    HD-R b-Sample

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    Quote Originally Posted by abraradam View Post
    Something new!
    Try to access the on-line owner manual, activate the "find" function and type "HD-R"
    It's a kind of magic....

    HD-R b-Sample
    Online manual?

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    edited...looks like i was wrong, info was incorrect
    Last edited by clewttu; 06-05-2013 at 10:30 AM.

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    good Clewttu!

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    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu View Post
    Hd-R b-Sample
    130mm travel with 650b wheels
    • 160mm Post Mount Rear Brake, 180/185 rotors work with adapters
    • BB height w/ 2.3" tires: 352mm (13.8")
    • Geometry measured with 140mm 650b 34 Fox fork,
    534.4 Axle to Crown height
    • Trail: 100mm
    Yes please!

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    130mm... that's a bummer

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    Are you talking about the white area on the left of page 5?
    All I get there is a copy of the DH 140 text - in white.
    Search for HD-R got no hits.

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    I had a dream last night they were releasing a cruiser bike and a kids bike, and we were all super disappointed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clewttu View Post
    Text is white so you cant see it

    Hd-R b-Sample
    130mm travel with 650b wheels
    • 160mm Post Mount Rear Brake, 180/185 rotors work with adapters
    • BB height w/ 2.3" tires: 352mm (13.8")
    • Geometry measured with 140mm 650b 34 Fox fork,
    534.4 Axle to Crown height
    • Trail: 100mm

    Also a mention of the Tranny29 on pg 16
    Hmm that would be disappointing, that sounds like the HD 140 with a slightly modified linkage for a slight BB drop / shorter travel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phat Hair View Post
    Are you talking about the white area on the left of page 5?
    All I get there is a copy of the DH 140 text - in white.
    Search for HD-R got no hits.
    HD-R has two hit in the white text, 650b has about 6 invisible hits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phat Hair View Post
    Are you talking about the white area on the left of page 5?
    All I get there is a copy of the DH 140 text - in white.
    Search for HD-R got no hits.
    actually, not really sure where it is in there, may be off the margins, just copied and pasted all of the pdf to Word and then searched for it...

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    I was talking to a guy at x-fusion the other day to see about getting one of their custom-tuned DW shocks for my current HD...to run 650b...and he kept asking me if I had an 'HD-R'...I thought he was just misunderstanding Ibis nomenclature...but maybe he was only misunderstanding their timing (ie. that the 'HD-R' hadn't been released yet).
    I kept asking for a shock that was the proper HD 140 length (7.875x2.0) and he kept telling me that I needed a 7.875x2.25. I told him I thought he had that measurement wrong...so he said "I've got one downstairs, I'll go measure it"...then he comes back on the line and, again, asserts that the shock on that bike is a 7.875x2.25

    So that was weird. But, in light of this thread...no so weird?

    the picture with the Havoc 35mm bar? if that doesn't scream HD I don't know what does. So, while I'm not a gambling man...I'm betting on HD 650b.

    Another way to think of it:
    how many Tranny 29ers do you think they'll sell? versus HD 650b's? where would you spend your R&D time?

    I'm biased, since I dig 650b and have been riding them on my mojo sl for over 4 years...and I have a really nice new 650b enve AM wheelset looking for a bike to put them on...so I'm *hoping* it's an HD 650b.

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    2.25 stroke gives your just over 150mm of travel on the HD, lets hope thats right and not the 130mm listed above.

    Or its a 130mm with 2" stroke and convertable to 150mm with 2.25? and chips? You can see the HD chips in the black bike on the bottm right.

    The 130-150mm 650B would make a lot of people happy.

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    Yeah 130mm-150mm, 650b, internal cable routing including reverb stealth, updated frame layup to drop a few OZ and we would have an absolute trail slayer.

    Now if they could offer an XX1 + Pike build as well and I'll be a very happy camper

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    looks like the info i found was incorrect...sorry guys

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    I for one, don't want them to be releasing an HD-R right now. I had just about decided to pull the trigger on a Ripley and sell my SL-R. Now, what do I do?


    First world problem...

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    My punt:
    150mm, Mojo HD-R.
    Main feature: eccentrics, to provide proper room for 650b wheels (with normal CS length) but also 26" compatible.
    5.9lb with shock. 3 colours, one of them black.
    No provision for reverb stealth.

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    Heck all I want is an updated rear triangle for my HD!

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    Try this: Search on Google for ibiscycles "HD-R". Be sure to include the quotes around "HD-R". An ibis manual appears at the top of the results.

    http://www.ibiscycles.com/downloads/...5_05_Mojos.pdf

    Open the manual and notice that page 24 is missing.

    Now go back to google. From the search results click the little green arrow an select cached. A new window will open. Search for HD-R with your browser's on page search. I am using chrome. Page 24 is now present with following text only"HD-R TK".

    Hmmm....

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    Ibis Mojo HD - odin's Bike Check - Vital MTB

    I really don't like the new graphics on the side of the frame..

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    Good job! Hiding in plain sight...?

    Quote Originally Posted by martinzone View Post
    ...again? I suspect the new bike has been lurking for some time.
    - -benja- -

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    Quote Originally Posted by martinzone View Post
    Ibis Mojo HD - odin's Bike Check - Vital MTB

    I really don't like the new graphics on the side of the frame..
    That doesn't look like a 650b, unless Specialized has started making 650b tires...
    That's nothing more than a custom paint job on an HD to me.

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    Hd-r 650b 140

    Ok so it sounds like an HD-R-650B 140:

    1. X-Fusion Guy said it was a 2.25 Shock. It will still be around 140 due to a change in links.
    2. Manual had HD-R TK (To Come).
    3. Picture of yellow bike is most definitely an HD of some sort.
    4. 650B Wheels are the only thing left; and there have been a lot of guys doing it already to their HD's.
    5. The bike Andrew is riding has a pretty sturdy bar and stem.

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    That's my bike, it used to be white at some point and I had it painted about 6 months ago, it has nothing to do with the new release, it is a 26 wheel bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by odin View Post
    That's my bike, it used to be white at some point and I had it painted about 6 months ago, it has nothing to do with the new release, it is a 26 wheel bike.
    Well clearly you did a good job because Ibis copied your scheme and colors perfectly

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    Ha , I just copied Lopes bike after seeing it at the shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riderup View Post
    I was talking to a guy at x-fusion the other day to see about getting one of their custom-tuned DW shocks for my current HD...to run 650b...and he kept asking me if I had an 'HD-R'...I thought he was just misunderstanding Ibis nomenclature...but maybe he was only misunderstanding their timing (ie. that the 'HD-R' hadn't been released yet).
    I kept asking for a shock that was the proper HD 140 length (7.875x2.0) and he kept telling me that I needed a 7.875x2.25. I told him I thought he had that measurement wrong...so he said "I've got one downstairs, I'll go measure it"...then he comes back on the line and, again, asserts that the shock on that bike is a 7.875x2.25

    So that was weird. But, in light of this thread...no so weird?
    I can offer an alternative explanation. If you were talking about the Vector, as far as I know the smallest size they offer is 200x57 (7.875x2.25). If you put a Vector on an HD140, it's gonna have to be a 2.25" stroke. Perhaps that's what he had downstairs.

    Another source of confusion is if he measured a 2.0" stroke that had a 2.25" shaft, like the Fox shocks do. With the same body but a different bottom out bumper, it would measure just like a 2.25" stroke, except the o-ring wouldn't pop off the end at (soft) bottom out.

    Combine that with being confused about Ibis nomenclature and you've got a full, perfectly innocent explanation. That said, it still sounds funny to me. I don't quite buy my own story, but I try very hard never to see a conspiracy when something could be adequately explained by human error.

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    Some of you guys are pretty good at guessing, some are not.
    I know Hans and the guys are watching this thread, so try not to hack the site. If you find anything in the source files, don't post it. Just wait till Monday.

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    Ibis put too much time and money into the DW design to not pass it on to the next frame. - it is a Ripley HD. The reviews so far on the Ripley say it rides better with a 120 fork.

    Ripley HD - 140 rear, internal stealth dropper post. 140-160 fork.

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    oops, posted in wrong spot.
    Last edited by Dub82; 06-05-2013 at 10:10 PM. Reason: posting in wrong spot

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    A few people have referenced my instagram & stem/handlebar combo...which would be helpful if I didn't run that on all my wheeled vehicles. MTB, BMX, road, recumbent, Segway, Subie.

    But for a more honest tip, I went ahead and put together a description of the new bike. MTBR deserves to know the truth! Numbers obviously may change from my version to production, but this should clear almost everything up.

    New Ibis

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    That definitely sounds like a 27" wheel whooshing by.

    I must be in the right mood for this type of music, which I am normally not a big fan of. I feel like I should be kicking it down a trail with lots of whoops.

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    Dear Ibis,

    As a valued Mojo HD customer who just spent thousands on this bike, and if the 650b thing is taking off as it appears, please offer a rear triangle to do a conversion for existing customers. This will bring in line a bb height comparable to the current 650 offerings out there, and extend the usable life of this wonderful bike for years to come.

    I guess there is always the option of messing with offset bushings and shorter stroke shocks to keep the bb low, but those are just bandaids:-)

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