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    New Enduro Bike Details! Eurobike 2014

    Ibis’ New Enduro Bike | MTB-MAG.COM

    In a dark corner, well hidden, we found Ibis’ new enduro bike. We weren’t allowed to take photos, as you can see Ibis’ founder Scot Nicol was keeping the paparazzis out. Still, he gave us all details.

    - 27.5″ wheels.
    - 150mm rear travel.
    - 66.5° head angle.
    - 20mm longer top tube in all sizes, compared to the Mojo.
    - 1 bolt Attachable front derailleur mount.
    - 2.5″ rear tires clearance.
    - Same kinematic as the Ripley, but no eccentrics because of the long travel.
    - Kit with the new Ibis wide rims 741.
    - Available in 6-8 weeks, in 3 colours.

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    New Enduro Bike Details! Eurobike 2014

    Come on guys give us some Reach numbers to play with and we'll go off and do some eSize speculating on which frame to order (L or XL in my case).


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    Maybe I'll actually feel comfortable on a large now.

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    For me it basically means I can run a XL like I do now and have the same fit, but I can run a 50 instead of the 70mm stem I have to run now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yody View Post
    For me it basically means I can run a XL like I do now and have the same fit, but I can run a 50 instead of the 70mm stem I have to run now.
    Frr me it means going down to a medium

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    Yes!

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    Top tube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripes View Post
    NM.. if you slacked the HA 1 degree and add 20mm of TT, you definitely still have a similar reach.

    Carry on.. I'll watch this one happily
    True, but if they drop the seat tube height enough I can go wit a XL and get closer to the reach I want. And to think I use to ride a Medium!
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    New Enduro Bike Details! Eurobike 2014-screenshot_2014-08-28-15-02-40.jpg
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    They need to add some decent logos or graphics to those carbon wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardrock05 View Post
    They need to add some decent logos or graphics to those carbon wheels.
    I like them stealth. Maybe a little something but let's not turn ibis into enve or intense or worst case pivot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardrock05 View Post
    They need to add some decent logos or graphics to those carbon wheels.
    Said nobody, ever
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    New Enduro Bike Details! Eurobike 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Hardrock05 View Post
    They need to add some decent logos or graphics to those carbon wheels.
    No, no, no, please don't

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    lol, definitely no logos on the carbon wheels!

    So will this thing get unveiled at Eurobike or what?! Seems like it's on some sort of special stand/display waiting for some official announcement or something. C'mon lets do this!

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    I hope one of the colors is "Chakra themed sacred geometry mandala!" Or black would be pretty cool, too.... Anyways, pretty exciting stuff! Wonder if I'd really be happy losing 10mm of rear cush. Slacker seems like a good thing. Don't really understand the benefits of more reach. DH stability? I've got over 3k miles on my HD160 with DBAir, Lyric, X01 and I9s. I can't imagine giving it up any time soon. It runs like it's brand new and never ceases to amaze me. East coast tech, northwest freeride, bike parks, epics-- my HD and I slay it all. It'll be up to y'all to tell me if I want one of these things in 2016....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iwan View Post
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    Can we just get on with the show and get the details, without all the sneaky peaky stuff
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    I hope they bring back orange, also hoping the wheelbase is not crazy long like the SB6c

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    Nuclear pesto please!

    Oh, and any damn bit of info we can get our hands on please. I thought this was going to be a public showing at Eurobike...

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    Hopefully they found the sweet spot for stem lengths. Talk of a longer top tube reminded me of this comment from Hans a year ago:

    "One quick comment, I think people got into the super short stems to feel confident about not going over the bars, make the front easier to lift etc. but dropper posts have dramatically changed the situation. Now some of the fastest guys I know are lowering the bars and running longer stems trying to get MORE weight on the front wheel to increase the front traction and get more pulling force out of your arms. When the dropper post is down it changes everything. You're probably not going to go over the bars because your stem is 2 cm longer since your whole body is about 5" or more lower. Of course they climb nice when set up that way too. The short stem trend has a lot of momentum and might have overshot the sweet spot for all around riding set up."

    Belief about sizing

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    What's considered long these days?
    60? 70? 90? Just a few years ago 90 was considered short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripes View Post
    2cm in the stem has a big impact on the handling of the bike. A longer stem also doesn't go as good with today's wider bars either. I personally like the short stem/wide bars setup. It feels more natural to me than being stretched out on a longer stem/narrower bars.
    I agree completely, steeper seat angles also put your weight over the front wheel, without the need for a 100mm stem. This isn't even an argument anymore, expecting people to run 90-100mm stems on a modern enduro bike is a recipe for bankruptcy.... it wont happen on the new ibis

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    Quote Originally Posted by d-bug View Post
    What's considered long these days?
    60? 70? 90? Just a few years ago 90 was considered short.
    70 is the new long.
    50 is pretty normal

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanssc View Post
    70 is the new long.
    50 is pretty normal
    Agreed. And 740mm wide is the new (narrow) normal. Not a single bike in your line-up that should ship with anything narrower than 720mm (Tranny) up to 780mm (HD)
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    Unfortunately Ibis is not unveiling the new Enduro at the Eurobike. No suggestion by Scot Nicol:

    Eurobike 2014: Ibis - IBC-TV auf MTB-News.de

    The video is in German. Only the current lineup is presented.

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    Sigh.

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    Strange... they pulled the page from the mtb-mag website... wonder if they changed their mind about announcing it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shenvatele View Post
    Strange... they pulled the page from the mtb-mag website... wonder if they changed their mind about announcing it?
    Damn. I posted it because Scot was in the pic, so I assumed it was an approved story.

    Sorry if I "screwed the pooch" posting the info Hans/Scot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelly_NH View Post
    Damn. I posted it because Scot was in the pic, so I assumed it was an approved story.

    Sorry if I "screwed the pooch" posting the info Hans/Scot!
    Dude, I highly doubt you screwed up any unveiling for Ibis as they might not have even planned to announce it there...

    If at all, you probably just gave all of us @ mtbr blue balls...way to go Pelly... Hahahah

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    Quote Originally Posted by trail.head View Post
    Dude, I highly doubt you screwed up any unveiling for Ibis as they might not have even planned to announce it there...

    If at all, you probably just gave all of us @ mtbr blue balls...way to go Pelly... Hahahah
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    Really hoping we get at least a new teaser pic to keep this going....

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    Interbike. ...sigh

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    I don't think Ibis has been Interbike regulars, but Outerbike instead. It's in October, which seems to coincide more with the 6-8 week time frame mentioned earlier.

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    What's the point of bringing the bike there and not unveiling it there?

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    "What's the point of bringing the bike there and not unveiling it there?",

    Probably to give the details to the Euro Mags and put a ban on it so when they do release it the press already knows whats up and has photos (and possibly a bike on test as well?)

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    They can show it to all of their European dealers so that they can place preseason orders.

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    Who wants to buy my Ripley?
    My one says BRAP!

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    Eurobike looked like a mess, I can see why they didn't release it there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evo233 View Post
    "What's the point of bringing the bike there and not unveiling it there?",

    Probably to give the details to the Euro Mags and put a ban on it so when they do release it the press already knows whats up and has photos (and possibly a bike on test as well?)
    This.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yody View Post
    Eurobike looked like a mess, I can see why they didn't release it there.
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    I hope that they update the sizing. my biggest concern/gripe is I currently have an XL Mojo HD. The numbers fit me exactly like my 2010 Yeti 575 L. On my HD I use a 150 dropper post and I am at the max insertion line already. When I drop the post it does not go down far enough for me. So please for us tall people please have an XXL. I know we are a majority but it is something that I am taking into consideration for my next purchase. Also My minor gripe is frame weight. Please try to bring it down some. For most people it isn't too much an issue but again when you are running an XL the weight comes into play. My rides are anywhere between 15-40 miles. and when you get to those late miles 4 hours into the ride a lighter frame makes a world of difference. Either way I can't wait to see the new frame and start saving my pennies for it
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    My question is, why go 150mm travel instead of 160mm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spunkmtb View Post
    I hope that they update the sizing. my biggest concern/gripe is I currently have an XL Mojo HD. The numbers fit me exactly like my 2010 Yeti 575 L. On my HD I use a 150 dropper post and I am at the max insertion line already. When I drop the post it does not go down far enough for me. So please for us tall people please have an XXL. I know we are a majority but it is something that I am taking into consideration for my next purchase. Also My minor gripe is frame weight. Please try to bring it down some. For most people it isn't too much an issue but again when you are running an XL the weight comes into play. My rides are anywhere between 15-40 miles. and when you get to those late miles 4 hours into the ride a lighter frame makes a world of difference. Either way I can't wait to see the new frame and start saving my pennies for it
    Tall guys need to huck too. I love my HD but it just won't fly straight at 6'5 with such a short reach. On the flip side it's a blast in the trees when it gets tight a gnarly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiO2 View Post
    Tall guys need to huck too. I love my HD but it just won't fly straight at 6'5 with such a short reach. On the flip side it's a blast in the trees when it gets tight a gnarly.
    If I had to guess, I'd say some kind of constraints for rear wheel clearance and to utilize the Ripley kinematics it made sense? Less travel pumps better so you go faster, 150 sounds faster.
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    Eurobike: Ibis doesn’t debut 2015 long-travel enduro bike
    Eurobike: Ibis doesn?t debut 2015 long-travel enduro bike | Mountain Bike Review

    "No, what Ibis didn’t do is divulge any details on the bike we don’t know is coming. It definitely won’t be the long-travel 27.5-inch dual-suspension bike we’ve seen under Anne-Caroline Chausson at Enduro World Series Races. It also won’t be slacker, longer and lower than the IBIS HDR and it absolutely won’t have more travel, say, in the 150-to-160mm range. That bike doesn’t exist."
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    Eurobike: Ibis doesn’t debut 2015 long-travel enduro bike
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    "No, what Ibis didn’t do is divulge any details on the bike we don’t know is coming. It definitely won’t be the long-travel 27.5-inch dual-suspension bike we’ve seen under Anne-Caroline Chausson at Enduro World Series Races. It also won’t be slacker, longer and lower than the IBIS HDR and it absolutely won’t have more travel, say, in the 150-to-160mm range. That bike doesn’t exist."
    I hope the above is an attempt at sarcasm

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    Oh?! Whatever happens there, it's not good. Those EWS leaks didn't happen by accident, so imho it looks like last minute issues. I'm sorry for Ibis, hopefully not another difficult bring-to-market-process like with the Ripley. I'm patient though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trap121 View Post
    I hope the above is an attempt at sarcasm
    Sure it is, the MTBR crew is not known for being Ibis haters.

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    Guys, they probably just plan on debuting it at a different time, but wanted to show distributors and shops the new bike, get media a look with pictures and get the thing under embargo.

    Expecting EU outlets to fly to the states to see the bike when it debuts is unreasonable given that Interbike and Outerbike are both coming up in the next month or so.

    I doubt them not "debuting" at Eurobike has anything to do with a production delay.

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