Well, I finally got the much anticipated IBIS MOJO built and ready for it's maiden voyage this afternoon. For those who've seen this bike in person this won't be any suprise, but on a scale of 1-10 the fit/finish/beauty of this bike is a 12.
MOJO Frame Medium
FOX RP23 Rear Shock
FOX FLOAT 140RLC
CANE CREEK IS Headset
Crank Brothers Candy Pedals
XO Shifters/derailleurs
SRAM 9Speed Cassette
SRAM Hollow Pin Chain
SRAM
TRUVATIVE Team Carbon Bar/SeatPost
TRUVATIVE Carbon GXP Crank
TRUVATIVE Team AL Stem
AVID Ultimate Front(185)/Rear(160) Brakes
ODI Lock On Grips
WTB Rocket Ti-Rail Saddle
SPINERGY Xyclone Disc Wheels
KENDA Blue Groove 2.35 Stick-E Front
KENDA Nevegal 2.1 DTC Rear
Your new rig is sweet looking. Is it replacing the Nomad? I have been checking out the Mojo and it looks awesome on paper. Lightweight with a good amount of travel. Let me know how it rides. I am interested to hear what you think about it.
So when I bring my Fox Vanilla up there to get pushed for my Mojo you will understand exactly the frame it will be going on!
this is actually really good news and has actually encourage me to take the time and get my shock to you.
Let me know when you want to come up. I'll make sure that I'm in that day to give you the nickel tour.
Nice.
Caution: May be habit forming
very sweet, Darren! Congratulations!
Thanks, yeah I'm stoked!
BTW, my Pushed RC is such an improvement on my Mojo I’m now even more spoiled. I may have to spend some big bucks to get an RLC and Push it.
Cool, I was meaning to get in touch with you before I left on vacation. Anyway, sorry about the surprise modified lower spring retainer and such...I thought it turned out well though. Glad to hear you're happy with what we came up with. One ride but the FLOAT RLC seems to be nicely balanced for the application.
Darren,
Your new rig is sweet looking. Is it replacing the Nomad? I have been checking out the Mojo and it looks awesome on paper. Lightweight with a good amount of travel. Let me know how it rides. I am interested to hear what you think about it.
No, not replacing the Nomad...in fact that bike just got a makeover. Really a different catagory bike. "Awesome on paper"....yup....makes a pretty darn good first impression too!
Wow, so beautifull. Damn that black looks sweet. Dont forget to post it onto the thread, post your Mojo pics here, thanks in advance
10-4
At some point I'll recharge the battery in my high res camera..but for now....
Nice work Darren, now you'll know exactly what I'm talking about when I send my twice replaced (and not by Fox) RP23 to you in the fall to get rid of its wheezing, squeaking and whatever else sounds.
Also, you're gonna wanna cover up that chainstay with some serious tape/jumbo lizard skin action if you want to keep it looking that good. There is another post here with recommendations on where else to put some clear film. Mostly the bottom of the down tube to the bb housing and the inside of the chainstay/seatstay on the drive side.
Welcome to the cult of Mojo, I think you'll like it here.
Darren, I'm running the same size frame, rear shock and front. I think the front isn't the best match for the rear. I get loads of bottomless-feeling plush travel from the rear and its supple enough and the damping fast enough to react to technical rock gardens full of squared edged stuff, even seated.
The front doesn't seem a supple. I've been out of mountain biking for some time, and my frame of reference is the Marz Atom Bomb which is butta smooth.
Anyway, can you guys modify the Float to give it the kind of feel I'm looking for or will I have to go coil?
Nice work Darren, now you'll know exactly what I'm talking about when I send my twice replaced (and not by Fox) RP23 to you in the fall to get rid of its wheezing, squeaking and whatever else sounds.
Also, you're gonna wanna cover up that chainstay with some serious tape/jumbo lizard skin action if you want to keep it looking that good. There is another post here with recommendations on where else to put some clear film. Mostly the bottom of the down tube to the bb housing and the inside of the chainstay/seatstay on the drive side.
Welcome to the cult of Mojo, I think you'll like it here.
Yeah, we're familiar with the "valve harmonic" that some RP3/RP23's produce and can adjust that sound out for you. As I've mentioned in other posts, it's not damaging, just annoying to listen to for some people.
As for the frame protection, I got that squared away before I rode it....thanks for the heads up though.
Darren, I'm running the same size frame, rear shock and front. I think the front isn't the best match for the rear. I get loads of bottomless-feeling plush travel from the rear and its supple enough and the damping fast enough to react to technical rock gardens full of squared edged stuff, even seated.
The front doesn't seem a supple. I've been out of mountain biking for some time, and my frame of reference is the Marz Atom Bomb which is butta smooth.
Anyway, can you guys modify the Float to give it the kind of feel I'm looking for or will I have to go coil?
gracias
First question I would have is rider weight. That would have a large effect on how close the stock settings are for you. Next would be the settings that you're running both front and rear. I'd be happy to discuss your options/setup in detail any time and can be reached either at (970) 278-1110 ext 302, or at dm@pushindustries.com.
Now that I've had the shakedown ride I'm off to the local proving grounds to give this thing a rip! Sunny and 83 degrees today here in Northern Colorado!!
First question I would have is rider weight. That would have a large effect on how close the stock settings are for you. Next would be the settings that you're running both front and rear. I'd be happy to discuss your options/setup in detail any time and can be reached either at (970) 278-1110 ext 302, or at dm@pushindustries.com.
Now that I've had the shakedown ride I'm off to the local proving grounds to give this thing a rip! Sunny and 83 degrees today here in Northern Colorado!!
Darren
Darren, I had Wrench Science set the bike up. The seat height, seat position, stem, controls, bar, etc were all set up perfectly for my body dimensions. The fork/shock was supposed to be dialed in for my weight (190). Rear feels great.
Well, I finally got the much anticipated IBIS MOJO built and ready for it's maiden voyage this afternoon. For those who've seen this bike in person this won't be any suprise, but on a scale of 1-10 the fit/finish/beauty of this bike is a 12.
MOJO Frame Medium
FOX RP23 Rear Shock
FOX FLOAT 140RLC
CANE CREEK IS Headset
Crank Brothers Candy Pedals
XO Shifters/derailleurs
SRAM 9Speed Cassette
SRAM Hollow Pin Chain
SRAM
TRUVATIVE Team Carbon Bar/SeatPost
TRUVATIVE Carbon GXP Crank
TRUVATIVE Team AL Stem
AVID Ultimate Front(185)/Rear(160) Brakes
ODI Lock On Grips
WTB Rocket Ti-Rail Saddle
SPINERGY Xyclone Disc Wheels
KENDA Blue Groove 2.35 Stick-E Front
KENDA Nevegal 2.1 DTC Rear
Darren,
I'd love to have your stable. Nomad, new RFX, and now a new Ibis (countless others I'm sure). Instead of me pondering the debate between the purchase between an Ibis/Spot type bike or an RFX, you say WTF and pull the trigger on both. Strong work.
So how much do you have to back off in the techy stuff with the Ibis vs the RFX? Surely, the Ibis can't handle as big of hits as an RFX.
Everyone here seems to rave about the downhill capability of the Ibis-- input?
Thanks Darren, didn't mean to jack this thread for shock talk. Enjoy your Mojo!
LOL, no worries....talking about suspension always seems to be a trend with my posts for some odd reason!?!?!
Darren, I had Wrench Science set the bike up. The seat height, seat position, stem, controls, bar, etc were all set up perfectly for my body dimensions. The fork/shock was supposed to be dialed in for my weight (190). Rear feels great.
Anyway, I'll give you a holla during the week.
Cheers,
Jeff
Jeff, good talking with you this morning.
One sexy bike.
Absolutely and understatement.
Darren,
I'd love to have your stable. Nomad, new RFX, and now a new Ibis (countless others I'm sure). Instead of me pondering the debate between the purchase between an Ibis/Spot type bike or an RFX, you say WTF and pull the trigger on both. Strong work.
So how much do you have to back off in the techy stuff with the Ibis vs the RFX? Surely, the Ibis can't handle as big of hits as an RFX.
Everyone here seems to rave about the downhill capability of the Ibis-- input?
Yeah, it's a bummer having all of these bikes....it's my job though. As for backing off, I'm not sure that would be the term just becasue we base it on how the bike handles at the limit. The trail we rode yesterday had a pretty large range of terrain with low speed techy climb, buff singletrack, high speed square bumps, big drop ins, etc. Comparing it to the RFX isn't really fair becasue I feel that the bikes are too different. My RFX is built with bigger wheels, tires, bars, a FOX 36 front fork....so riding the same terrain requires less focus at the same speed but as to be expected. What I can say is that in stock trim the IBIS is VERY neutral, VERY predictable. Smooth, great ergonomics, and very easy to adapt to quickly. At 180lbs, the stock suspension wasn't quite where I wanted it too be (big suprise ), but even with that factor the bike was very confidence inspiring at the limit descending. Even riding over my head a couple of times only resulted in one "get off".
That's sick Darren, have a blast with that badboy! That bike is right up your alley.
That it is...let me know if you're interested in picking one up....I know the guy invloved in the design!
Darren, shot you an email on logistics of getting my new ride PUSHed. Great talking to you as well. I've been around the moto-x scene (teens), mtb scene (last 15 years), and recently motorsports (last 7 years, tracking both a bmw and a porsche). My opinion is that suspensions are 1 part science and 1 part black art. It's fantastic to talk with somebody who gets that and am happy that there's a company out there that can tune a suspension commensurate with my expectations.
Anyway, pls keep us all posted on how the mojo feels after you get to dialing in the suspension. I'm keenly interested in knowing.
Well, I finally got the much anticipated IBIS MOJO built and ready for it's maiden voyage this afternoon. For those who've seen this bike in person this won't be any suprise, but on a scale of 1-10 the fit/finish/beauty of this bike is a 12.
MOJO Frame Medium
FOX RP23 Rear Shock
FOX FLOAT 140RLC
CANE CREEK IS Headset
Crank Brothers Candy Pedals
XO Shifters/derailleurs
SRAM 9Speed Cassette
SRAM Hollow Pin Chain
SRAM
TRUVATIVE Team Carbon Bar/SeatPost
TRUVATIVE Carbon GXP Crank
TRUVATIVE Team AL Stem
AVID Ultimate Front(185)/Rear(160) Brakes
ODI Lock On Grips
WTB Rocket Ti-Rail Saddle
SPINERGY Xyclone Disc Wheels
KENDA Blue Groove 2.35 Stick-E Front
KENDA Nevegal 2.1 DTC Rear
26.0 lbs
Here's a couple of quick pics...more to come.
Darren
Nice ride !
How do you like the spinergy's ? I have been using them for long time and love em. (On two different bikes.)
Absorb shock like crazy, light and still fairly stiff laterally. I have had to do nothing to them except grease for years. (I never hose job my bikes) I hope to stop by and visit and see the ride sometime, and bring an RP3 in for service. (I'm back to home in Denver for Aug and Sept.)
Darren,
Great build. Did you get your seatpost alum insert coming unbonded issue fixed ? Mojo Seat Tube Insert Problem I wonder if it is a galvanization issue with the carbon and the alum insert. I think they are going to carbon inserts on the mojsl but am not sure.
I was by there to pick up my shock and saw the build, wow. Btw, having my shock pushed changed my bike. It was like a new suspension !
I'll be ordering a mojsl next year and sending the shock to be pushed !
Nice ride !
How do you like the spinergy's ? I have been using them for long time and love em. (On two different bikes.)
Absorb shock like crazy, light and still fairly stiff laterally. I have had to do nothing to them except grease for years. (I never hose job my bikes) I hope to stop by and visit and see the ride sometime, and bring an RP3 in for service. (I'm back to home in Denver for Aug and Sept.)
sweet ride, i was about to reply about those rims but someone beat me to the punch. do you think they withstand 210 lbs on them. i am looking for a new wheel set when i get my mojo, and they look pretty sweet.
Now that I've had some real rides on this bike I can say that the wheels seem really nice. This is my first time on them, but so far so good.
Great build. Did you get your seatpost alum insert coming unbonded issue fixed ?
Yeah, I got a new front section built up. The guys at IBIS are real responsive to the issue from what I've heard...and not to just us industry folks! Pretty much a non-issue that they've got a handle on. Glad you're happy with your stuff!
sweet ride, i was about to reply about those rims but someone beat me to the punch. do you think they withstand 210 lbs on them. i am looking for a new wheel set when i get my mojo, and they look pretty sweet.
I'm not sure because I have limited time on them, about 7-8 good rides. Like I mentioned earlier, so far so good. Light, stiff, interesting dampening quality....I like them.
Damn, I thought you would be extolling the virtues of getting your shop all geared up to tune RS forks. I say quit this riding nonsense and get ready to PUSH some Pikes. Riding is overrated and for posers!
Yeah, we're familiar with the "valve harmonic" that some RP3/RP23's produce and can adjust that sound out for you. As I've mentioned in other posts, it's not damaging, just annoying to listen to for some people.
I tested a mate's mojo on the weekend and the sound from the RP23 reminded me of the AMPhysema wheezing on a Mongoose Amplifier I had many, many moons ago :0)
The wheezing comes and goes. Mine does it on occasions, but mostly is silent. And it doesn't do it when it's in Propedal. I can't figure out why it would be intermittent.
Mine is quiet as can be. I hear allot of people ask on the forums if having the rebuild done is worth it. Why not estimate how much of an improvement people say it is then cut that in half to be conservative; then consider how many times the compression and rebound cycles in one ride and multiply. You might find it feels it has paid for itself after only a couple of hours of riding, or a couple of weeks depending on where you ride. (especially if it is time $ to do routine work anyway.) (I ride mainly rocky mountain region.)
I would guess it feels like about a 6% improvement on uphill and 8% or so on the downhill. (Also, in this case the shock was ready for a tuneup and had been for awhile. Note, I focus most on climbing efficiency usually and change the platform setting etc often [as many controls as a shock gives me I will use])
It was well worth it.
We can accommodate your request for an RP23 shock on the SL, It will weigh about 60 g more. Probably not going to ruin your day....
Is it any surprise that Ibis will give you what you want (if in reason):
It is no suprise, we have all seen that a major part of their approach is customer service which is awesome. So enough lobbying for rp23 on SL ! (Could be a money savings for them to send rp23 instead to boot)
Cool ! Actually, I think I want both. Here is my latest rationalization. % of cost of adding an RP23 to my order is so small..... Since fox could care less about it's customers as far as wanting a remote, with the DT Swiss at least you can add a remote even though it doesn't have the fidelity of the fox shock. Side note: Fox use to make a remote for RL and since they did not have most of customers asking for it they discontinued it. I ask them why add all the features to RP3 and not atleast spend a little of their R&D for the people that want all that tunablity all the time. They told me to pack sand. (Now that's customer service on the other end from the guys at Ibis and Push.)
I recently purchased a Mojo, and since then have been disappointed in the RP23 that comes with the bike.
In my opinion, the stock RP23, with "high" compression tune is way overdamped, to the extent that it causes the rear suspension to skip over high piston speed, square-edged hits.
If you want to feel/hear for yourself, depressurize your shock and then work the suspension linkage - the source of the wheezing sound should become clear.
Again, I think there's far too much compression damping on these shocks.