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    My Ripley

    Edit: Scroll down for Ride Report

    Got my tires in today! Bike is completed. Haven't really ridden it yet except around the block. First impressions, is that it feels like my Ibis SLR, but with way more traction. Still working out the minor stuff to get it dialed in.

    So about the build...I transferred over a lot of parts from my SLR and pulled the trigger on my set of Industry Nine Torch wheels before Ibis's big release date. Most of my previous parts were red and I was expecting Ibis to release somewhat a generic color like white or black. So after the announcement I had a choice between being Captain America or it being xmas year around and I opt'd for the red, white and blue! In the end, I think it turned out pretty good actually like the way it looks. The blue frame looks super nice!!!!

    I'm planning a 30 mile ride tomorrow so I'll get some good ride time on the bike and report back my thoughts afterwards.

    Edited: Here is my completed Build specs
    Blue Ripley size Large (Im 5'-11")
    Fox 34 Float 140 CTD (from Ibis)
    Industry Nine Torch Wheels 32H (Red/Red) - Setup Tubeless
    XTR Shadow+ Rear D
    XTR Shifter
    XT Brakes
    XT Ice Tech Rotors 180mm/160mm
    Truvativ Noir Single Speed Crank
    E.13 32 Chainring
    E.13 XCX Direct Mount Chain Guide
    Truvativ BB92 Bottom Bracket
    Chris King Head Set
    Thomson 70mm (Red Dress up Kit)
    Easton Havoc 750mm Carbon Bars
    KS i950r Dropper Post
    Specialized Henge Pro Carbon Saddle
    Time Atac XS Carbon Pedals
    Schwalbe Nobby Nic SS TL 2.25 Front/Rear (Tubeless)

    Weight 27lbs.

    Now onto the pictures. Let me know what you think.







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    Congrats!

    That's not too far from what I have planned. The Torch wheels are amazing. If I really do end up building a Ripley I will probably go with the 2/1 24 spoke I9's.

    I guess this bike was the one where I ended up being the nervous Nelly refreshing the internet searches every hour looking for reviews and photos. "That it should come to this!"
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    Really Nice Bike!!! looking forward to that ride report!
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    Killer looking! Post details over here as well:
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    VERY interested in your ride impression and what it weighs in at. I ordered mine with the Fox 34 and have that little nagging inner voice telling me that it might make the front end to tall,make the front end wander on steep climbs OR be to heavy on the front end. Any ride report will be appreciated...

    Looks awesome- the red looks dope BTW....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdc View Post
    VERY interested in your ride impression and what it weighs in at. I ordered mine with the Fox 34 and have that little nagging inner voice telling me that it might make the front end to tall,make the front end wander on steep climbs OR be to heavy on the front end. Any ride report will be appreciated...

    Looks awesome- the red looks dope BTW....
    Thanks everyone for the kind words....

    MDC: I also ordered mine at first with a Fox32 from Ibis. Unfortunately they are out of them at the moment, which doesn't surprise me as fox is backordered too. I like the numbers a lot better with the Fox34, but wanted the weight of the Fox32. About to go ride now so I'll let you know how it performs.

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    Nice! Looking forward to your ride reports.

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    Great build! Love a ride report on the bike with the 140mm and your thoughts on the Trail wheels. A lot of us are doing the 120 vs 140 math and looking at those wheels on the Ripley.

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    I would assume that the 140 could be lowered to 130 if it felt a little tall?

    Colours look good together nice bike. I'm also looking forward to hearing back from you.

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    Nice. I am very interested in hearing your impressions vs. the SLR.

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    Congrats, really nice!

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    I couldnt keep up with Ripley..Thx for the ride Mr Gong.




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    Sweet ride, looks great and nice thought out build

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    That's a great comparison side by side.

    Also, don't get too nervous with your ride report, THE WHOLE WORLD IS WATCHING!
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    Thanks everyone for the kind words!!!

    I didn't add this in my original post which I will, but the bike weighs in at 27lbs.

    Here is my RIDE REPORT


    Summary: The bike, even with the Fox34 140mm, felt like my Ibis SLR except when cornering and pointing the bike downhill. That's when a big a$$ grin appeared on my face and remembered I was on a 29er. The bike has loads more grips in the corners and is so much faster/smoother on the downs.

    Trail Tested On: Rwanda 25 route(29 miles). This gave me a good amount of saddle time today and good mix of trails(Steeps, flats, a little single track). Nothing too aggressive and super technical though. The trail also ranged from loose, rutted, hard parked and a few little rock beds.

    My Background: This is my first 29er bike. I've recently owned a Trance Advance SL 26er, and Ibis SLR. Both bikes had a Fox32 140mm fork and a Trail of around 90-95. My SLR had an Angle set and an HA of 67.5. The Trance with a 140mm fork had an HA of 68.5. Both bikes had Industry Nine wheels like the Ripley and were running Nobby Nics just like the Ripley. I test road a Trance X 29er that changed my mind about 29ers and led me to purchase the Ripley. I ride ~3-4 times a week on average, all across orange county California. Average around 200-250 miles a month.

    ###The Bike:

    --Climbing: I felt no difference in climbing compared to my SLR/Trance. It climbs very well just like the other Ibis models. I had doubts with the 140mm up front, but I had no issues with the front wondering at all. The trail I rode had some pretty steep climbs too. The kind that are short but super steep. I am running a 0 degree 70mm stem, with mid rise 750mm bars, and it is currently place 5mm above my CK headset. Thinking some more...I think it felt better than my SLR on the steep climbs because there is more weight on the front to keep it down.
    Another thing to note is that I have move down to a 32T ring in the front compared to a 34T I had on my SLR and Trance. I didn't feel any of the extra load that people say 29er wheels give you when climbing. I always thought a good wheelset would negate that anyways.
    I'm really glad I got the Fox34 140mm up front as I preferred the geo numbers with the taller fork. It's much stiffer than my previous Fox32 Talas 140mm.

    --Descending/Suspension: My opinion on the new dw-link might be skewed a little by the fact that this bike is a 29er. I feel this new eccentric link is more active and supple than on my SLR dw-link and trance maestro(I had a med volume reducer on my SLR too). I know this is very subjective, but I can at least say that the new dw-link system works "very well"!!!
    I kept both front and rear shocks on the "Trail" setting for about 95% of the ride. There weren't really any technical descents that justified switching the shock to wide open. Even on the trail setting, the bike felt super plush, responsive and soaked up everything. Again, some of that is probably related to the 29" wheels. I did open both up on one descent and all I can say is, wow! To sum it up, It feels like a Caddy going down; very solid and smooth.

    --Cornering/Handling/Single track: Ibis's goal was to design the Ripley to feel like a 26" bike and I feel they have definitely succeeded in doing so. Just to note that the Ripley with Fox34 140mm gives the bike a trail of 90, which is what I am used to riding. I immediately felt right at home on the bike from the get go, except maybe for cornering which felt slightly off. This was resolved by lowering the stem down 10mm due to the 140mm up front. I originally set it up with 15mm of spacers below the stem like my previous bikes. I like to run my bars about 1-2 inches lower than my saddle height. The bike is very balanced and after lowering the stem, I had no issues keeping my weight centered on the bike and weighting the front through turns. The frame is very stiff, like viagra stiff, just like my SLR.
    I read another reviewer saying the bike is a single track slayer. I'd agree with them. The bike is very snappy and responsive, even in the tight stuff. Again, it handled like I was riding my SLR, only with more grip and faster.

    Let me now if you have any other questions and I'll do my best in answering them. I tried to cover all bases.

    Really enjoyed riding the bike today and glad I made the switch over to a 29er. IMO, this bike lives up the Ibis name and it is definitely a bike worth waiting for.

    Thank you IBIS!
    Last edited by mcgong; 04-08-2013 at 05:50 AM. Reason: Added some more detail to climbing.

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    But can you ride like Brian Lopes on it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dv8xin View Post
    But can you ride like Brian Lopes on it?
    Not even remotely close

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    Disclaimer: NOT A 26 VS 29 DEBATE

    Any thoughts on the SL vs Ripley?
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    Thanks for the input on the 140, a lot of people were eager to know. Great write up and a very nice bike.

    Let us know again about your experiences after a good few weeks of abuse.

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    My Ripley

    Damn that bike looks goooood. 27lbs is great. Enjoy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iwan View Post
    Disclaimer: NOT A 26 VS 29 DEBATE

    Any thoughts on the SL vs Ripley?
    I've never ridden my friends SL, just an SLR. IMO, both very solid trail bikes. Pick your poison. Only really thing I can think of now is that the Ripley will probably make me an all around faster rider, but I'll leave that up to Strava when I can get out and try to improve my rankings.

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    That's exactly the kind of ride report I was looking for - Thanks!

    One last question- What size frame did you get? What size was your previous Ibis? and how tall are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mdc View Post
    That's exactly the kind of ride report I was looking for - Thanks!

    One last question- What size frame did you get? What size was your previous Ibis? and how tall are you?
    I got a Large. My SLR was a large also. I am 5-11.

    I run a KS setback post and a 70mm stem. Although the seat is adjusted forward just about all the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcgong View Post
    I got a Large. My SLR was a large also. I am 5-11.

    I run a KS setback post and a 70mm stem. Although the seat is adjusted forward just about all the way.
    Perfect! I currently have a Large SL, with a 70mm stem, riser bars, RS Rev fork (150mm), and a Reverb with the seat set at about the middle. I think the Large Ripley is going to fit perfect, and with some low rise or flat bars it will give me a bit more room in the cockpit.

    Hopefully Ibis is starting to ship bikes out to the East Coast- the trails are finally de- thawed, and i am ready to go!

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    Great review. Thank you for taking the time to write it up and posting the photos.

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    Thank you for the review. I didn't expect something so objective. The fact that you used similar tires, and had experience with the same wheelsets and frames as I'm running gives me full confidence that this is the way to go.
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    Can you post your complete build? Are you running those I9s tubeless. Thanks.

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    I have to say, that bike is pretty sweet looking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ordinarybikes View Post
    I have to say, that bike is pretty sweet looking!
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    Thanks for your review, it sounds really good with the 140 fork! Looking forward to some updates on your initial impressions and setup after you get some more time on it.

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    Dropping Chains

    Not sure if some of you saw my issue with my SLR. I'm having the same issue with the Ripley too.

    I would drop the rear tire from about a foot off the ground the chain would come off. I am almost certain it is a characteristic of the I9 wheels because when I first built the bike, it didn't do it. After getting some miles on the hubs and breaking them in, the issue appeared. I believe it has to do with the High engagement and the hub being so smooth. I know some of you are getting I9 wheels too. So maybe you can test it out too.
    On my SLR, I ended up putting a c-guide on it, but I really don't like the way it looks on and refuse to put it on the Ripley.


    Here is vid from my other thread on the issue.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brisco Dog View Post
    Can you post your complete build? Are you running those I9s tubeless. Thanks.

    I edited my original post to reflect my complete build.

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    It's hard to see what gear you're in on that cluster. It looks like it's on one of the smaller sprockets. I'm betting that it's a simple matter of the chain being out of line with the chainring, and by spinning the chain backwards it derails.

    I've got a Mojo with I9's. I've never had this happen, but I'm always in the second to largest cog in the rear. I just set it that way when I'm coming in, because that's where things line up with the chain ring.

    Am I missing something? If you're having issues while riding the bike, then what I said doesn't hold. Bla, bla, bla. I want a Ripley nowzorzs.
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    Definitely seems like an issue independent of bikes and more likely related to chain/cog position and wheelset. I can't see anything in that video to think that it wouldn't do the same thing if it were a Tallboy LTc, Sultan, SB95 etc etc. Suspension isn't being cycled really at all. So all in all, I agree with you

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    I've thoroughly tested this and it doesn't matter what cog I'm in. Even talked to Scot at Ibis about it. With a stock wheelset, it doesn't occur nearly as much. Sometimes at the bottom of super rocky descent, I'll the find the chain off and have to stop, loosen the guide, and put the chain on. A PITA! So it's just a characteristic of the wheel set the lack of riding skills

    I rode with B Lopes a couple months ago and asked him about it, and he tried it on his SLR at the time did the same thing. So I just brushed the issue under the rug and lived with it.

    Just wanted to let you all know.

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    That chain drop happens on my HT with even a shorter rear wheel "freefall". Happens on any wheel/tire combo I put in it, honestly. A lot of factors, such as the chain, rear derailleur cage tension, chainring, and chainline. From a FSA 386 BCD (2x) crank to a XX crank, that helped solve it noticeably. Going from a super light KMC X10SL to a SRAM 1091 seemed to help slightly. The RD doesn't seem to put much tension on the chain, compared to my other bikes.
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    Re: My Ripley

    Quote Originally Posted by mcgong View Post
    I've thoroughly tested this and it doesn't matter what cog I'm in. Even talked to Scot at Ibis about it. With a stock wheelset, it doesn't occur nearly as much. Sometimes at the bottom of super rocky descent, I'll the find the chain off and have to stop, loosen the guide, and put the chain on. A PITA! So it's just a characteristic of the wheel set the lack of riding skills

    I rode with B Lopes a couple months ago and asked him about it, and he tried it on his SLR at the time did the same thing. So I just brushed the issue under the rug and lived with it.

    Just wanted to let you all know.
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    Hi All, sorry I didn't want to detour this thread with my chain dropping issue. I've discussed that here in my SLR thread
    Dropping Chains

    Just wanted to bring it up again that I am experiencing the same issue like on my SLR. Both bikes have the same setup, with the exception of a smaller chainring.

    But to answer the previous question, yes it is a XTR Shadow +.

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    Seat tube angle looks pretty slack with the 140 fork....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69erEverything View Post
    Damn that bike looks goooood. 27lbs is great. Enjoy!
    I don't totally agree there. Those wheels are ugly. Sorry, red on red? Really? The rest of the build is so beautiful but not on board all the way. Also not super stoked on 27 Lbs. That seems a bit heavy to me. I just built basically the exact same bike on a Tallboy LTc frame instead and came in 26.5 lbs with heavier less ugly wheels and no dropper post. I really thought the Ibis would have less gravitational pull... Good to hear she rides well though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJDude View Post
    I don't totally agree there. Those wheels are ugly. Sorry, red on red? Really? The rest of the build is so beautiful but not on board all the way. Also not super stoked on 27 Lbs. That seems a bit heavy to me. I just built basically the exact same bike on a Tallboy LTc frame instead and came in 26.5 lbs with heavier less ugly wheels and no dropper post. I really thought the Ibis would have less gravitational pull... Good to hear she rides well though.
    So you come here from SC subforum just to bash Ripley. You should stay at SC dude boy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJDude View Post
    I don't totally agree there. Those wheels are ugly. Sorry, red on red? Really? The rest of the build is so beautiful but not on board all the way. Also not super stoked on 27 Lbs. That seems a bit heavy to me. I just built basically the exact same bike on a Tallboy LTc frame instead and came in 26.5 lbs with heavier less ugly wheels and no dropper post. I really thought the Ibis would have less gravitational pull... Good to hear she rides well though.
    Ok cool. I'll change the wheels. Maybe take the dropper post off so it's lighter than 26.5 lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcgong View Post
    --Climbing: I felt no difference in climbing compared to my SLR/Trance. It climbs very well just like the other Ibis models. I had doubts with the 140mm up front, but I had no issues with the front wondering at all. The trail I rode had some pretty steep climbs too. The kind that are short but super steep. I am running a 0 degree 70mm stem, with mid rise 750mm bars, and it is currently place 5mm above my CK headset. Thinking some more...I think it felt better than my SLR on the steep climbs because there is more weight on the front to keep it down.


    I'm really glad I got the Fox34 140mm up front as I preferred the geo numbers with the taller fork. It's much stiffer than my previous Fox32 Talas 140mm.
    Thanks for this report! I've really been wondering about using 120mm vs 140mm for the fork, worried that the 140 would make it too tall for steep climbs. I was even thinking about a TALAS so I could drop the fork to 110mm for those climbs. I ride mostly in the Santa Monica Mountains and it wouldn't be a problem for most of the climbs, but there are a few really steep nose-of-the-saddle kind of climbs that I like having a lower front end for. But it sounds like that's not a problem.

    I've also been wondering about 32mm vs 34mm forks, and whether the extra stiffness of a 34 is worth the extra weight. I'm probably 180lbs geared up, and 32mm seems fine for what I'm riding now, but... Sounds like you are glad you went with the 34. Any other comments about that?

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    Speaking from experience, stay away from the Fox 34 Talas. It's heavier and not as plush as the Float. Stiffer seals and small bump compliance isn't as good. Of course I would prefer to have the new Pike 35mm as I have been a fan of RS dampers over Fox. But back to you, skip the Talas. As far as the 32 vs. 34 debate I don't have any experience with the Fox 32.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcgong View Post
    I am almost certain it is a characteristic of the I9 wheels because when I first built the bike, it didn't do it. After getting some miles on the hubs and breaking them in, the issue appeared. I believe it has to do with the High engagement and the hub being so smooth. I know some of you are getting I9 wheels too. So maybe you can test it out too.
    I am on a different bike (Yeti SB66 carbon) with a different drivetrain (XX1), but I am running the I9 Torch Trail wheels. I am not having any issues with chain drop and I am not running a guide of any sort. Not sure if this info helps at all, but I thought I'd chime in.

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    Hi peeps,

    Just want to add the amazing of Ripley with the video. We made the clips before we did Rwanda 25miles pre-ride. The bike, color theme, specs are all awesome. We called it Captain America!



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    I love it!

    The mt biking experience. Wish I were there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SJDude View Post
    I don't totally agree there. Those wheels are ugly. Sorry, red on red? Really? The rest of the build is so beautiful but not on board all the way. Also not super stoked on 27 Lbs. That seems a bit heavy to me. I just built basically the exact same bike on a Tallboy LTc frame instead and came in 26.5 lbs with heavier less ugly wheels and no dropper post. I really thought the Ibis would have less gravitational pull... Good to hear she rides well though.
    Dude, there's enough "real science" in that post to qualify you for a position on BIKE Magazine's editorial staff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agoura_biker View Post

    I've also been wondering about 32mm vs 34mm forks, and whether the extra stiffness of a 34 is worth the extra weight. I'm probably 180lbs geared up, and 32mm seems fine for what I'm riding now, but... Sounds like you are glad you went with the 34. Any other comments about that?
    I only weigh about 155 geared, so the 32 is enough for me too. I do welcome the added stiffness of the 34 though. I used to have a RS Lyrik which I miss the stiffness of, and the Fox34 is very close to that. What I really only wanted was the 140mm of travel and since Fox doesn't make a Fox32 in 140mm, I had no choice.
    Not sure if you familiar with O'neil Park down here in the Santa Ana Mountains. My test ride was the Rwanda 25 miler route which consisted of many short, but super steep ascents. I didn't have any issues climbing any of them with the 140mm. You do have to bend down towards your stem a bit more, but nothing crazy.
    A lot of my riding buddies at the shop I go to all ride Fox32 on their 29ers (Trance X) and are happy with it as well. I'd say if you going for more XC, get the Fox32 and if you want more of a Trail bike, get the Fox24....again I guess it also depends on your trails and riding style too. That's my 2 cents.
    Talas would be nice, but not worth the extra weight to me and I'd probably never use it. As for the plushness, I can't really tell too much difference between the my previous Fox32 Talas and this Fox34 float. They are both pretty plush to me. I'd probably opt for a Float unless I REALLY need the TA. I tend to have to service my forks quite often and a float is a lot easier/cheaper to work on. I just spent 250 dollars to factory rebuild my Fox32 Talas because the rebound and talas were both shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcgong View Post
    I only weigh about 155 geared, so the 32 is enough for me too. I do welcome the added stiffness of the 34 though. I used to have a RS Lyrik which I miss the stiffness of, and the Fox34 is very close to that. What I really only wanted was the 140mm of travel and since Fox doesn't make a Fox32 in 140mm, I had no choice.

    Not sure if you familiar with O'neil Park down here in the Santa Ana Mountains. My test ride was the Rwanda 25 miler route which consisted of many short, but super steep ascents. I didn't have any issues climbing any of them with the 140mm. You do have to bend down towards your stem a bit more, but nothing crazy.
    A lot of my riding buddies at the shop I go to all ride Fox32 on their 29ers (Trance X) and are happy with it as well. I'd say if you going for more XC, get the Fox32 and if you want more of a Trail bike, get the Fox24....again I guess it also depends on your trails and riding style too. That's my 2 cents.
    Talas would be nice, but not worth the extra weight to me and I'd probably never use it. As for the plushness, I can't really tell too much difference between the my previous Fox32 Talas and this Fox34 float. They are both pretty plush to me. I'd probably opt for a Float unless I REALLY need the TA. I tend to have to service my forks quite often and a float is a lot easier/cheaper to work on. I just spent 250 dollars to factory rebuild my Fox32 Talas because the rebound and talas were both shot.
    Thanks again for your comments. Good point about Fox not offering a Float 32 in 140mm; that's also why I'm thinking about the 34. I'm sure I could use the extra stiffness for some trails but a lot of what I do is cross-country and I'd like to avoid the weight. It really helps to hear about the climbing, though, and that it doesn't require anything extreme to keep the front end down.

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